Dynamic Expansion Explained - Bitwig Dynamics vs Compressor
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2019
- How does the Dynamics and Compressor differ in Bitwig Studio 2.5? Dynamic Expansion Explained - Bitwig Dynamics vs Compressor. Let's explore why and when to use either of these lovely devices in Bitwig Studio.
Learn all about dynamic expansion vs compression. Why and when to use either of the two. Is the dynamics multiband?
I hope this video will give clearance in how these two devices work with your audio content. Let me know if you have any questions!
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The Dynamics plugin is based on a pure VCA (voltage controlled amplifier) design, while the Compressor plugin is also based on a VCA design it adds feedback operation as known from the UREI 1176LN. The feedback operation in urei 1176ln (ln= low noice) uses VCA circuit but signals go thru a FET.
Try running the signal really hot into the compressor, use a low attack / release (be sure to lower the output). You will get some really nice fuzz out of your sounds.
Experimenting is key in Bitwig.
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Great Job on this tutorial Matt! So the Dynamics part is what Ozone does as well for Mastering :)
Yeah, Ozone does some great dynamics mastering plugs, iZotope, Neutron. 😀 Though I do think the assistant / analyze in Neutron (at least version 1) was a bit too hyped. It rarely work that great for me. So I end up making custom presets instead. Did you try the Neutron vst 3DFX? Thanks, happy you like the tutorial!
@@MattiasHolmgren Idont think so yet.. But i did Masters on few of my tracks with Ozone 7. Very comfortable to work with! Is Neutron new for version 8? What does it add? I checked yesterday for metering plugins & saw people use to use Fabfilter L2 for measuring LUFS. Iwas still bit scared to use it, since i tot iv heard people say that limiters can degrade sound quality? I also ended up downloading the free Youlean Loudness meter which looks like a champ! (tho i prefer Fabfilters digital meter) Tried it yet? Im Joseph by the way 😊
Hi Joseph, You Lean is to me the best and most accurate meter for LUFS etc. Fabfilter limiter is the best and most transparent Limiter to me. It can push tremendously without degrading (if wanted) I run LUFS at about -13.0db when mastering. Max peaks at -0.3db.
Neutron isn’t really new. There’s already a version 2. I don’t use it that much but has a nice feature to sidechain EQ peaks towards another track with Neutron. Quite nice to get vocals to sit, or bass vs kick. Thanks!
@@MattiasHolmgren Excellent information Mattias! I might have a closer look at them sooner or later! 👍 i just found it alittle interesting to see that Spotify requirements are -24 LUFS. Iv seen on google the new standard is -23. Sounds like overkill? Or should i say UNDERkill haha? Guess it depends what sound system you feed it with in the end mostly right?
@@tredfxman Spotify mastering target should be at around -14db LUFS integrated. You have the mastering info for Spotify at their website: artists.spotify.com/faq/mastering-and-loudness#will-spotify-play-my-track-at-the-level-it's-mastered
I also wrote an article on the subject explaining around the subject of LUFS:
www.morningdewmedia.com/mastering-for-spotify-lufs/
How does the Dynamics and Compressor differ in Bitwig Studio 2.5? Dynamic Expansion Explained - Bitwig Dynamics vs Compressor. Let's explore why and when to use either of these lovely devices in Bitwig Studio.
Learn all about dynamic expansion vs compression. Why and when to use either of the two. Is the dynamics multiband?
I hope this video will give clearance in how these two devices work with your audio content. Let me know if you have any questions!
The Dynamics plugin is based on a pure VCA (voltage controlled amplifier) design, while the Compressor plugin is also based on a VCA design it adds feedback operation as known from the UREI 1176LN. The feedback operation in urei 1176ln (ln= low noice) uses VCA circuit but signals go thru a FET.
Try running the signal really hot into the compressor, use a low attack / release (be sure to lower the output). You will get some really nice fuzz out of your sounds.
Experimenting is key in Bitwig.
Please subscribe, give a thumbs up and write some kind feedback.
Kind feedback gives you tons of good karma! =)
Thanks for watching,
Mattias Holmgren - Morningdew Media www.morningdewmedia.com
Hey! Thanks for the nice explanations! Very helpful and clear and simple to grasp!
Hey Rom, happy to hear you like this Bitwig compression video!
Thanks for the great explination of these of devices Mattias.
Thanks, happy to hear you enjoy this video. We can really do anything with the device sets. 😊
You have a video for everything... Awesome! Really enjoying your tutorials. Thanks!
Haha yeah probably. Lol, I've pumped out quite a collection of tutorials. And more is on the way. 😋🦊 Thanks for writing Richard.
Thanks for these videos pal. Keep up the good work, very helpful fort people luke myself 👍
Hey, happy to hear you like them. Appreciate the support and feedback!
Dude, Hell Yes! This has the right vibe. Now I need a bass
Thanks man. Yeah bass rocking on tracks with the real thing is always fun!
Thanks for the clarification. Your videos are very helpful.
Hey Dusty, thank!!! I thought it would be great to get to know these two compressors and really see what sets them apart. It’s easier to know which one to use for certain sounds. What compressors do you use? Did you watch my recent vocal mixing/processing video? Even if it’s in FL we still can apply the technique to any DAW.
@@MattiasHolmgren I use the bitwig compressor a lot. Because it is easy to adjust and I have a visual representation of what's going on there. I like to get more attack on drums with it. On vocals I like the CLA-2A from waves. It helps a lot to bring the vocals in front and make them more crisp.
@@mysticalmusicmoments it's hard to go wrong with the CLA-2A. Beefy compressor indeed. There are quite a few manufacturers who did replica versions of the CLA-2A, some better than others. The Waves one is indeed pristine, like most plugs from Waves. Good to hear about your setup. I really like the visual representation in Logics compressors too. Maximizer in FL Studio is a bit quirky to get your head around, but oh so powerful.
Nice video as always, big thank you :)
Thank you too! Glad you came by my little dynamic processor video. ;D🌞
Thanks for a nice video, Mattias! Really hot topic indeed, sometimes it seems, everyone speak of compressors =)
I actually used only Compressor device in Bitwig before I saw Dynamics in some of your videos, and now, I think, I use both of them equally. Dynamics is good in having this bottom part compression, sometimes it's very effective and prevents the result sounding overcompressed. Side-chaining is also very common practice nowadays, and with the lack of built-in envelope volume shaper device and/or modulator in Bitwig Studio, it's probably the most natural way to get the side-chaining work.
I've also heard several times about Молот but have never tried it myself (in spite of cyrillic name spelling, haha). It's "hammer" from Russian, by the way, so it probably should do its compression job fine :D
I actually not too much fan of using compression to sort of colourize the sound, sometimes it really makes the sound more warm or something, but generally I don't get why to use those extremely expensive replicas of famous console compressors or something) Maybe that's because I don't know how to cook them =) But yes, for now I'm very satisfied with Bitwig build-in modules in this area. They just work, which is enough for me)
What external compressors do you usually use, Mattias? Any kind of analogue-based ones?
Thank you for another interesting and live topic described and nice video! I wish you even more ideas and productivity, new nice tracks and videos, and I'll follow up yet unseen ones meanwhile :)
Aha that's what those buttons do. Mastering will never be the same. Thanks again.
You're welcome!
very helpful thanks Mattias :)
Good to hear you enjoyed my Bitwig content! 👌😄
I often do! keep it up you are appreciated and do great work
Great video as always!
One comment: when explaining the difference between compression and expansion it would be more obvious for people watching if you rendered the waves post-FX and compared them to the original - one would have the peaks closer together, the other further apart.
Hi Artur, thanks glad you enjoyed the video. Absolutely, an image post-FX render, that would have been a great addition. I hope people listen to the bass sound. It's quite a drastic change when expansion is at max. =)
What do you think about the sound of the compressors in Bitwig?
Thanks again for your feeedback.
@@MattiasHolmgren I rarely use the Compressor, but Dynamics is my go-to. It's very rare in native DAWs tool to have separate control for high- and low- volume signal and even rarer to have negative ratios. It's just awesome and I really like that it's transparent, because if I want colour I'll add it using different devices :)
@@Artek604 absolutely, they really pushed some strengths into the Dynamics device unseen in other DAWs. Yeah, sound color should be added with care. But I really think it's neat that you can cram that kind of saturation from them...if you want. =)
Thank you for the good easy explanation. This is really helpful for me.
Good to hear Salt, appreciate the kind feedback. What compressor brands do you generally use in your productions for various instruments and busses?
@@MattiasHolmgren Since I am a beginner, I only have my LogicX, still don't have any plug-ins or any. I have so much to learn before buying any. Your lessons are full of tips and basic knowledge.
@@msgsaltsweet Logic X is filled with amazing plugins and sound content. Especially now when we have Alchemy included with the DAW, it's just amazing. Please let me know what you think about the other videos too! Comments on videos really helps to push this channel. Which means I can do even more content!!! Thanks a million Salt Sweet! Cheers, Matt
@@MattiasHolmgren Your alchemy lesson opened a whole new world to me. Some even loved my tracks. I am really grateful.
@@msgsaltsweet So good to hear my friend! Keep on rocking!
Ah, I didn't know about getting saturation by overdriving the input level of the compressor. Thanks! I also didn't know that compressor emulates the 1176. I really like the dynamics processor: it can do a lot on the master chain when you're trying to get the overall loudness of your track up into commercial range.
Hi Brian, yeah its often fun to drive plugins to the extreme and see what happens. Dynamics compressor in Bitwig Studio rocks! I also like to use Molot free compressor for some nice crunch & character on sounds.
@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks for the pointer. I'll check out the Molot compressor.
Very nice sir..
Thanks.
thank You!
You are welcome, what do you think about the compressors of Bitwig?
Thanks.
You're welcome
I'd like a tutorial in which you quantize the audio transients of this bass line ! !
Cool thanks 🙏🍿
Ah damn, in a few months i will be in my new Studio...
Hey Beep, wazzup? But that's not something to feel sorry about!? That's AWESOME! You have something to look forward to! How's the house coming along? What compressors do you work with on your tracks?
Thanks for the comparison! What's the outro song?
The outro track is called - Medvind. You can find it on Spotify etc. Mattias Holmgren Medvind. I also did some tutorials on making the song ruclips.net/video/E5UjB3Gp9kI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/nt60RRr91KE/видео.html
Hope you enjoy these videos too. Thanks! 🌞
Nice tutorial, I didn't know that the compressor gave saturation.
I have been having trouble with the Dynamics device when expanding. If the low threshold is set to a positive value it can push up the volume and create a loud static tone/noise that nearly blew my ears once when I automated the device on/off button. Do you know why and how to avoid it?
Sounds like a non wanted feature. What version of Bitwig? Did it only occur when automating on/off? What happen if you stop track, let it be in ON mode, play and reach audio clip? Same result?
Haha happend to me two times as well.. im just happy my AKG 240 MK2 are still working, along with my ears.. ;)
Molot by vladg/sound - vladgsound.wordpress.com/plugins/molot/
Nice video! Thanks! I have one question, I sometimes want to use the sidechain and overcompress the loudness a bit, because in EDM it sounds great to Sidechain a lead loud, but then when i stop the track the sound does not stop and gets so loud it cracks my ears, do you know how to avoid this? maybe a device exists that cuts the sound in the end? It is pretty annoying.
Hi Jason, oh I know the feeling. It sounds like you have a levelling issue. If you setup all your levels correctly this issue should never occur. 🌞
I can probably do a video on this, but what I do is something like this:
1. For single instrument tracks (which is side-chained /gated, or otherwise affected by some automated / modulated -levelling):
Make sure you always go from 0db to minus when you modulate, that means use unipolar LFOs (NOT bipolar). Unipolar is easy to setup because you know the end of your scale and can set it precisely. If you are using unipolar you only set the mid-point and can't really tell where the end-points will hit. So it could go above 0db into +6db or whatever, depending on what you are doing.
Also if you are doing side-chain make sure the attack is fast and the release is NOT TOO LONG. The release is important because if it's too long you might be listning to the lead at say -6db and when you have a breakdown (without the triggering sidechain kick) your lead might swell into 0db or whatever you setup as reference starting point for the level. With a long release the lead might never go back to that original "top" level and sound fine when you got the beats blasting.
2. For your master SUM bus (or group busses). Same thing here make sure you don't hit 0db. I have my final mix bus not exceeding -8 to -12 db (peaks) before I start doing any mastering or final processing.
In this digital age it doesn't hurt to have a lot of headroom. It's easier to mix if not everything is smashing into red.
At least that's where you should start. If you then get confident and know how you setup all your sounds you can of course hit a bit harder. But the starting point should focus on not exceed something like -8db for peaks.
I never have this issue anymore where sounds get uber loud just because I have a breakdown or whatever. It's all about how you setup your separate individual tracks. I must definitely do a video on this, about how to do proper levelling (with side chains etc).
Thanks for lifting this important topic Jason! Thanks for writing! 🌞💫😀
@@MattiasHolmgren Those are very good tips, thanks for your reply, Your other mastering video already helped a lot, It's definitely something i am doing wrong in the settings of the dynamics when using the sidechain, however i always make sure my separate tracks do not exceed -12 db, maybe it is the release in the compressor, i have to check this . I will test it once more, and also your unipolar lfo tip. Video's about levelling and sidechains on separate tracks are always very welcome. You are very good in explaining. Thanks.
Hi Jason, sure, yeah I hope my latest volume / gain staging video helped with the issues you are having. My bet it is the release of your side-chained track. Just follow my principles and you should be fine. ;D
Where did you get the info that Bitwig compressor is an emulation of the FET 1176 URI ? It's nowwhere in the manual ....
By ear. In my opinion it can sound a bit like a 1176. But overall the plugins of Bitwig are quite natural and transparent in nature. But when you drive the compressor it gains a bit of character.
Since the video is 3 1/2 years old, do you know if the link to download MOLOT is still valid? 'cause it's moved to another link.
Yes Molot should still work.
it is pronounced like ['molot] (which is "hammer" in russian)
Awesome, I can probably not pronounce it right. But hey I think it came across that I like the plugin. =) Oh, forgot to add the Molot-link. Will do that in a sec! Thanks for noticing, hope you like the video! What do you think about the compressors of Bitwig?
@@MattiasHolmgren well, i one of those persons who uses compressor as utility device. so basically any compressor will do their job (if it able to compress :)) and bitwig devices definitely do their job. if i want some "magical" effect like presence, air, fatness i rather will use standalone saturator. anyway i'm not a fan of all this crazy valve/transistor/tape emulation plugins mania. the music itself is prime goal :)
@deviantstudio so true deviantstudio, sometimes it's better to look at what audio content / tracks you have and clean up your arrangement rather than reaching for plugins. The final music should indeed be the prime goal! 👌☀
Still I think Bitwig still lacks good beefy saturation tools, so to get some oomph from the Compressor is welcome. For me it's fine, I'm using Trash 2, Fabfilter Saturator etc. but for people who buy Bitwig and don't own third party plugs it's a weak point.
Sorry but wrong about expansion!! The quiet parts get leveled up to get closer to the lound once. This plugin is acting partly like OTT without the bands where loud get quieter and quiet get louder to reduce the dynamic difference
No, my info is absolutely right. I was talking about expansion. dynamic ”expansion” (when the plugin is set to expansion mode” is about giving audio more dynamic range. When set to normal ”compression” mode, yes you decrease the dynamic range. I explain it in full detail throughout the video. In compression mode, yes, it might give similar result to OTT…if you slam it into an multiband Fx-2 or fx-3,one dynamic decice per band, it becomes separate band compression similar to OTT. OTT still gives a different result because it has other stuff going on and other settings / split point curves etc.