I have called the pads "foot locks" for quite a while. Since the Patton came out people have made foot lock extenders or just entirely new foot locks. I figured that this lowered pedal kit would make the standard foot locks semi useless so a kit would be a good idea indeed. Thanks for your impressions!
{tl;dr} This! ...this is exactly why these companies need to change their business model to offer an "rent/lease to own" option where you can build equity in a version 1 wheel and return the wheel if it's not free/freely upgradable to a version x wheel. This way, there's no reason to delay buying a wheel because you know that the sellers/manufacturers will stand by their product. And, when you do come across that mythical 'one wheel to rule them all', then you can pay-off that loan and ride into the sunset for at least a decade or two. It cost KS and IM far more in delayed/denied sales than was made in total sales made. The retailers would find this model to be very profitable since they can either become contracted service providers to support this much more elaborate infrastructure model or they could decide to take the finance/insurance role and capture the interest/maintenance fees while creating a reconditioned EUC market to sell to new users or price sensitive markets. I just hope they don't fuck up the marketing like they've been doing all along.
I've recently installed these hangers on my Lynx, and the difference is quite noticable. I have more stability at high speeds. It is also much more convenient for city riding.
@@SpencerWheelman You’re absolutely right! In fact after a while, I realized that I have an easier access to the power of the wheel with this lower pedals setting. And this is good for me as I’m a light rider. The Lynx is a heavy wheel for me.
I’ve got the lowered hangers with Nylonove pedals and it feels pretty good so far. Can’t decide if I prefer the lowered height or not? Going to put a few hundred miles and swap back to compare. They do add stability but it feels less nimble and carvy in my opinion. Definitely adds some extra height for seated riding, which feels excellent now for a tall guy. Great video, Marty!
I think I want to experiment with a Lynx seat, so yes the lowered pedals will help there. I agree, I'm on the fence too as to whether I'll keep them lowered but it's a fun experiment. Thanks!
I installed the lowering hangers a few days ago and on my first ride I immediately had issues with wobbles both on acceleration and braking. No issues previously. I’m going to try adjusting my pad setup, but if it continues I’ll be swapping back to the stock hangers.
@@ElectricUnicycles it may also be a center of gravity issue, since I’m pretty tall, going to give it a few more rides until I decide. Just wanted to post my initial experience since it was so different from what you had (and what I was expecting).
I currently have 14-wheels. Hard to ride them all and make videos 🙂 I still like the Mini but just haven't had time to ride it while testing the newer wheels.
I like the stock pedal height so far - pedal clipping is a pet fear of mine. I'm going to add some grip tape to help prevent slipping. Gotta admit the e-Ride pedals are nice though. Wonder why LeaperKim can't get pedals right after so many tries...
@@ElectricUnicycles oh heh... It doesn't come till Feb... That's just my plan... Only the pads have arrived... I been trying to figure out what's attached to each other at the front to remove from videos I've seen... Some seem to have taken off the pad and holding rod and left on the bumper which leaves a hole at top of bumper.... Was not sure if they had to shear it off or it just pops out... Maybe you could answer this? .... Got great info from your vids... Nice stuff... Can't wait... heh... First lynx in Bonnie Scotland I think 🤔
@@EUCScotland Ah, I understand. I may look into removing the stock jump pads but so far they are working for me - I'm not a jumper (especially with my broken ankle which is still recovering) so the jump pads mainly function to keep my feet from bouncing off the pedals. Good luck with your Lynx - it's an awesome wheel!
For this kind of money i'd expect something like pedal height to be adjustable considering how much it effects the ride and how high they are by default. 1 inch of drop is nothing, would it be practical to drop the height another inch?
It’s a set screw that pushes against a flat in the pedal rod. It seems to work fine for now. One thing of note is that the set screw on the lowered brackets is smaller diameter than the stock setup. I don’t think it matters much, basically feels the same in actual use.
These pedals can be install however you like. If you literally look at the E-RIDES website you will also see them installed how I did it. There is no "correct" way.
Hi Marty, it looks like you installed the trail pedals and that perhaps the box was mislabeled? I ordered the biggie pedals and they do not have a cutout as shown. The cutout is supposed to help with clipping on trails, hence the name.
Nope. I installed the "Biggies". Right now I'm looking at the Trail Pedals laid on top of the installed Biggies and they look nearly identical but are shorter and narrower. Note that I installed the Wolverine pedals which are available as Biggies and Normal and have the cutout for all sizes. You didn't buy the Wolverine version.
The difference is subtle - slightly more stable with the pedals lowered and a feeling of not standing so tall. It's very subjective. I would say that if the existing pedal height doesn't bother you, don't bother lowering them.
Two thoughts: - why don’t euc designers allow user to adjust pedal height? Are they worried that people will screw up the balance? It seems like such an obvious customization option. - why would raising heel and toe be a good thing? Beside flattening your foot arch, which isn’t appealing to me, if you want better leverage.. seems like raising the middle makes more sense.
@@RyanMcCarvill The ability to apply pressure from the ball and toe of the foot more readily and by using less flexion. Considering the ECU generates torque from press ion on these two points, It makes total sense to have them elevated on each side. Just imagine a pedal that was carved ever so slightly in the other direction and you'll understand.
Tried the Patton for the first time yesterday and my Lynx is on its way, even when riding in 1° c in snowy and icy conditions I didn't find the pedals at all slippery, could it be my nubby shoes interlocking with the pedals or do you have to do trails and jumps to notice?
The degree of slipperiness comes down to how you ride. If you are pushing and twisting your feet to accommodate the riding conditions, your feet will tend to slip a lot more than if you had proper spikes.
Its interesting/notable that they gave up idea of having two parts to the pedals. One that fits with your wheel and a standard pedal that can then be then moved between wheels. Is that not a thing anymore?
Afeez told me that only the Veteran version of the pedals are like this and the other varieties (Begode, KingSong, etc) still use the two pieces. I don't know why.
Whats unfortunate is how far the newer wheels are getting from “average consumers” aka not everyone is retired or rich to be spending 4200$ on a wheel then another 1000 on things that shouldve been there at the time of purchase. I guess I can only speak for myself but not everybody got it like that.
I've never yet paid anywhere near $1000 for accessories for a single wheel - and yes, I've paid full cost to accessorize a wheel. But certainly wheels have gotten ridiculous expensive considering the general lack of quality. Much of the cost is attributable to batteries which is not only an EUC phenomenon.
I've bought a used 18xl for a few hundred {needed double that in repairs}, I've bought a RS-19 for $300 {okay, it was stolen but I found the original owner, win/win}, I've bought a V11 for $500 {so far so good}, I've bought an 'old' 300Watt wheel for $75 {best learning wheel ever!}, and I've bought a 16x for under $1k... {what's not to love?} Aftermarket upgrades are not mandatory except for 'status', 'comfort' or 'extreme riding' so it's nice to have the option to buy those components at a deep discount in the future... (yeah, I'm looking at you Biopads and Nylonove!} Don't worry, once the addiction takes hold, pretty things overcome hesitation and you'll become a zealot for the Uni-gospel too. {and, I live far below the poverty line, so for me, I'm ballin'} May the flow be with you... {warning: eddy-currents do happen, which is what this community is for-} 🤗 {lastly, I recently bought new begode CNC hex footplates with removable spikes for $100-} And the flow heals all concerns.
I believe the E-RIDES pedals are designed elsewhere but are branded and packaged specifically for E-RIDES. So you can probably find a variation other places.
I got both these. I scrapped the hangers cause the metal plate on the pedal had no clearance. Erides said the metal plate can be adjusted. So heads up if you dont want your hangers scrapped.
@@ElectricUnicycles the one on the pedals. Shiny metal with 2 screws in it. The contact point on pedal and lowering kit. Kinda bumed the paint scrapped off. Maybe I need to change the grub screw instead of the 2 on top.
@@pacochawa2746 Oh, now I understand - the adjustments for pedal angle. Mine weren't touching. My pedals get all scratched up from how I ride so this doesn't much bother me.
@@bookmark2846 sorry to hear that, it's a frequency that people lose quite easily as they age. No idea why I still hear it. My begode had something similar when I first got it and I was tempted to return it, but thankfully it stopped after a day or two.
We call them "pedals" and we call the things they hang on the "pedal hangers". It might not be 100% accurate but that is the term we use and I don't imagine that will be changing any time soon I'm afraid.
@@SamClegg Just talking semantics, we say a lot of things that don't make literal sense, but that's how the cookie crumbles, no point crying over spilled milk. English is an interesting language and on that point given its English and not American, I think we should have the last say 🙂
As a UK rider it's pretty depressing to see Erides (UK based) send their new kit all the way over to the USA for evaluation/review. I kinda get it, you are well known, but its just a sad state of affairs that we don't have our own home-based RUclipsr that can do a similar job. I guess thats what the lack of EUC legality in the UK does for us :(
Hsaing sells these pedals on his site. And there are retailers and the used market too. What are you really upset about? {there are a few US small-makers of pedals too... Chris Chapult (sp?)}
@@grb1969 Apologies, I think you missed my point. 'Upset' is prob too strong a word. It was just the fact that it's a shame that the UK EUC scene is so lacking that UK EUC vendors are sending parts to the US for review. I wish we had the sort of EUC community that the US has, as well as a UK tuber of Marty's stature so that Afeez didn't need to take this stance. As I say, I totally get why Afeez did it, thats business.
The foot plates look like copy of Nylonove design. I know it is different material but raised pieces are the same and the shape with clearance cut for the jump pad. You installed the foot plates wrong way btw 😉
@@grzegorznaskret4453 I've seen so many people do it this way. I guess some people really prefer it that way around even though they were not designed for it.
I have called the pads "foot locks" for quite a while. Since the Patton came out people have made foot lock extenders or just entirely new foot locks. I figured that this lowered pedal kit would make the standard foot locks semi useless so a kit would be a good idea indeed. Thanks for your impressions!
This seems like a must-have upgrade package for the Lynx
Excellent bro... The video includes you performing the hardware mod and a basic review of riding afterwards... A def step from your previous videos!
such a awesome looking wheel, i'll get it 2-3 years after
{tl;dr} This! ...this is exactly why these companies need to change their business model to offer an "rent/lease to own" option where you can build equity in a version 1 wheel and return the wheel if it's not free/freely upgradable to a version x wheel. This way, there's no reason to delay buying a wheel because you know that the sellers/manufacturers will stand by their product. And, when you do come across that mythical 'one wheel to rule them all', then you can pay-off that loan and ride into the sunset for at least a decade or two.
It cost KS and IM far more in delayed/denied sales than was made in total sales made. The retailers would find this model to be very profitable since they can either become contracted service providers to support this much more elaborate infrastructure model or they could decide to take the finance/insurance role and capture the interest/maintenance fees while creating a reconditioned EUC market to sell to new users or price sensitive markets. I just hope they don't fuck up the marketing like they've been doing all along.
I've recently installed these hangers on my Lynx, and the difference is quite noticable. I have more stability at high speeds. It is also much more convenient for city riding.
You have to lean more with lowered pedals? I thought it would be the opposite
@@SpencerWheelman You’re absolutely right! In fact after a while, I realized that I have an easier access to the power of the wheel with this lower pedals setting. And this is good for me as I’m a light rider. The Lynx is a heavy wheel for me.
It's amazing that the EUC community is responding to such a niche and changing market with aftermarket pedals.
E-Rides makes great pedals , i ve have wolverines on my Nikola Plus since one year and i love them
What makes them worth the money? My lynx is comming in, with grizzla flow Pads, but stock pedals
@@maxim9875 Nice, solid, very grippy
I’ve got the lowered hangers with Nylonove pedals and it feels pretty good so far. Can’t decide if I prefer the lowered height or not? Going to put a few hundred miles and swap back to compare. They do add stability but it feels less nimble and carvy in my opinion. Definitely adds some extra height for seated riding, which feels excellent now for a tall guy. Great video, Marty!
I think I want to experiment with a Lynx seat, so yes the lowered pedals will help there. I agree, I'm on the fence too as to whether I'll keep them lowered but it's a fun experiment. Thanks!
Thanks Marty! Great vid as always…..
I can't wait to get mine on monday... perfect timing video because I just bought the pedal lowering kit, too.
I'm also loving my lynx so far. If you are looking more lynx accessories I really like the aftermarket light from the nylonove guys
I've heard great things about Nylonove but have yet had the opportunity to try any of their products. Lynx for the win :-)
As always beautiful job Marty❤#brother
I installed the lowering hangers a few days ago and on my first ride I immediately had issues with wobbles both on acceleration and braking. No issues previously. I’m going to try adjusting my pad setup, but if it continues I’ll be swapping back to the stock hangers.
Strange. I've had no sense of increased wobbles. Maybe your body just needs to acclimate?
@@ElectricUnicycles it may also be a center of gravity issue, since I’m pretty tall, going to give it a few more rides until I decide. Just wanted to post my initial experience since it was so different from what you had (and what I was expecting).
@@Scifi_Ape how dare you 🤣🤣🤣
Marty !! Put a damn Street tire on already !!! 😆 also, where’s that Commander Mini 😅 never seen it again after this Lynx came through 😂
I currently have 14-wheels. Hard to ride them all and make videos 🙂 I still like the Mini but just haven't had time to ride it while testing the newer wheels.
Street tire! 👎👎👎👎👎👎 this thing is a beast on off-road trails and super fun. And it just eats up the bumps, get another wheel for street rides!
@@Riceman-o1p I ride too many trails. Generally, I prefer knobbies. We're all different 🙂
Grizzla offers two choices. Regular and lowered.
"FOR YOU SPEED FREAKS OUT THERE" bet the name Dawn was crossing his mind at that moment
I like the stock pedal height so far - pedal clipping is a pet fear of mine. I'm going to add some grip tape to help prevent slipping. Gotta admit the e-Ride pedals are nice though. Wonder why LeaperKim can't get pedals right after so many tries...
I have similar type pedals might just need to chip the anodizing off the tips of the nubs
bought my lynx from Afeez ...he's the heart of the industry :)....oh btw Im removing jump pad and using nylonove pads so this removes locked in issue
When you removed the jump pads did you install anything to protect the front battery pack corners?
@@ElectricUnicycles oh heh... It doesn't come till Feb... That's just my plan... Only the pads have arrived... I been trying to figure out what's attached to each other at the front to remove from videos I've seen... Some seem to have taken off the pad and holding rod and left on the bumper which leaves a hole at top of bumper.... Was not sure if they had to shear it off or it just pops out... Maybe you could answer this? .... Got great info from your vids... Nice stuff... Can't wait... heh... First lynx in Bonnie Scotland I think 🤔
@@EUCScotland Ah, I understand. I may look into removing the stock jump pads but so far they are working for me - I'm not a jumper (especially with my broken ankle which is still recovering) so the jump pads mainly function to keep my feet from bouncing off the pedals. Good luck with your Lynx - it's an awesome wheel!
I just got my Lynx and removed both jump pad and kickstand, yes there will be a hole there need to cover up;
Couple of rubber stoppers from home depot... Job done heh
Thanks, great vid. How much lower are the pedals/foot pads? I also enjoyed admiring your workshop :)
1-inch lower
For this kind of money i'd expect something like pedal height to be adjustable considering how much it effects the ride and how high they are by default. 1 inch of drop is nothing, would it be practical to drop the height another inch?
Can this lowering kit be used on the Sherman L? Do you ride with it lowered?
It would be nice for you to explain how the friction system works compared to the ratcheting system.
It’s a set screw that pushes against a flat in the pedal rod. It seems to work fine for now. One thing of note is that the set screw on the lowered brackets is smaller diameter than the stock setup. I don’t think it matters much, basically feels the same in actual use.
Nice stuff! But it looks like you installed the pedals the other way around. Because the gap should be in front to match the jump pads when it closed.
These pedals can be install however you like. If you literally look at the E-RIDES website you will also see them installed how I did it. There is no "correct" way.
Hi Marty, it looks like you installed the trail pedals and that perhaps the box was mislabeled? I ordered the biggie pedals and they do not have a cutout as shown. The cutout is supposed to help with clipping on trails, hence the name.
Nope. I installed the "Biggies". Right now I'm looking at the Trail Pedals laid on top of the installed Biggies and they look nearly identical but are shorter and narrower. Note that I installed the Wolverine pedals which are available as Biggies and Normal and have the cutout for all sizes. You didn't buy the Wolverine version.
@@ElectricUnicycles ahhh, thanks for clearing that up, I didn't realize.
👍
do you recommend lowering the pedals or keeping the pedals the same height? What difference do you feel between the two?
The difference is subtle - slightly more stable with the pedals lowered and a feeling of not standing so tall. It's very subjective. I would say that if the existing pedal height doesn't bother you, don't bother lowering them.
Привет друг! На AliExpress такие педали продаются?👍👍👍
Hello friend! Are such pedals sold on AliExpress?
I have no idea
Two thoughts:
- why don’t euc designers allow user to adjust pedal height? Are they worried that people will screw up the balance? It seems like such an obvious customization option.
- why would raising heel and toe be a good thing? Beside flattening your foot arch, which isn’t appealing to me, if you want better leverage.. seems like raising the middle makes more sense.
Think the new in motion wheels do.
I have personally heard from some people that they get real benefits from the toe and heal risers. We're all different.
@@RyanMcCarvill The ability to apply pressure from the ball and toe of the foot more readily and by using less flexion. Considering the ECU generates torque from press ion on these two points, It makes total sense to have them elevated on each side. Just imagine a pedal that was carved ever so slightly in the other direction and you'll understand.
Would a michelin pilot 2 or street 2 fit on this?
I have no idea
Tried the Patton for the first time yesterday and my Lynx is on its way, even when riding in 1° c in snowy and icy conditions I didn't find the pedals at all slippery, could it be my nubby shoes interlocking with the pedals or do you have to do trails and jumps to notice?
The degree of slipperiness comes down to how you ride. If you are pushing and twisting your feet to accommodate the riding conditions, your feet will tend to slip a lot more than if you had proper spikes.
Oooooooo this is what I wanna hear about. Cross my fingers no faults with my lynx.
Its interesting/notable that they gave up idea of having two parts to the pedals. One that fits with your wheel and a standard pedal that can then be then moved between wheels. Is that not a thing anymore?
Afeez told me that only the Veteran version of the pedals are like this and the other varieties (Begode, KingSong, etc) still use the two pieces. I don't know why.
I want to get the pedal lowering kit, but the jump pad, needs to go lower
What is the pedal height lowered?
can't you put the friction kit also on the patton? It sure looks that way
I was told by Afeez that the friction kit is not compatible with the Patton.
Whats unfortunate is how far the newer wheels are getting from “average consumers” aka not everyone is retired or rich to be spending 4200$ on a wheel then another 1000 on things that shouldve been there at the time of purchase. I guess I can only speak for myself but not everybody got it like that.
I've never yet paid anywhere near $1000 for accessories for a single wheel - and yes, I've paid full cost to accessorize a wheel. But certainly wheels have gotten ridiculous expensive considering the general lack of quality. Much of the cost is attributable to batteries which is not only an EUC phenomenon.
I've bought a used 18xl for a few hundred {needed double that in repairs}, I've bought a RS-19 for $300 {okay, it was stolen but I found the original owner, win/win}, I've bought a V11 for $500 {so far so good}, I've bought an 'old' 300Watt wheel for $75 {best learning wheel ever!}, and I've bought a 16x for under $1k... {what's not to love?}
Aftermarket upgrades are not mandatory except for 'status', 'comfort' or 'extreme riding' so it's nice to have the option to buy those components at a deep discount in the future... (yeah, I'm looking at you Biopads and Nylonove!}
Don't worry, once the addiction takes hold, pretty things overcome hesitation and you'll become a zealot for the Uni-gospel too. {and, I live far below the poverty line, so for me, I'm ballin'}
May the flow be with you... {warning: eddy-currents do happen, which is what this community is for-} 🤗
{lastly, I recently bought new begode CNC hex footplates with removable spikes for $100-} And the flow heals all concerns.
You can spend a lot less on an EUC and still have a great experience, it truly changes my life.
Well I spent $8000 on my electric mountain bike as a base model, and I have about $3000 worth of upgrades. So these things are a deal!
The veteran lynx is not for "average consumers" in any way.
The erides pedal hangars and the beidou pedal hangars from ewheels look the same. 🤔
I believe the E-RIDES pedals are designed elsewhere but are branded and packaged specifically for E-RIDES. So you can probably find a variation other places.
@@ElectricUnicyclesthe clarity on this camera on greatly appreciated Marty!
Yo, WTF is that animal you passed at 25:49 ! 😧😳 (left side of the screen)
LOL. There were a few small dogs in that section.
Yup, the cast stubs are not very good. And having the ability to lower the pedals is a nice option.
I rode backwards in this video ? :-)
I'd like these for a Sherman s.
They sell a version for the Sherman S
I got both these. I scrapped the hangers cause the metal plate on the pedal had no clearance. Erides said the metal plate can be adjusted. So heads up if you dont want your hangers scrapped.
What metal plate are you referring to???
@@ElectricUnicycles the one on the pedals. Shiny metal with 2 screws in it. The contact point on pedal and lowering kit. Kinda bumed the paint scrapped off. Maybe I need to change the grub screw instead of the 2 on top.
@@pacochawa2746 Oh, now I understand - the adjustments for pedal angle. Mine weren't touching. My pedals get all scratched up from how I ride so this doesn't much bother me.
@@ElectricUnicycles ok. Ya must be my grub screw then. I just hate scatching paint off before Im even on it.
Listen to this high pitch Veteran Lynx whine, holy cow! So annoying! At 22:30
Do they all sound like that, or does he have an unlucky one?
Might be the offroad tire? I have a street tire and will ride it later today and see if the whine bothers me.
@@bookmark2846 nah, it was stationary in his workshop, a very loud coil whine. It's a frequency that not everyone can hear.
@@RyanMcCarvill I couldn't hear it, but then again, I've got hearing problems :(
@@bookmark2846 sorry to hear that, it's a frequency that people lose quite easily as they age. No idea why I still hear it. My begode had something similar when I first got it and I was tempted to return it, but thankfully it stopped after a day or two.
Foot-plates, you cannot pedal an EUC 🙂
We call them "pedals" and we call the things they hang on the "pedal hangers". It might not be 100% accurate but that is the term we use and I don't imagine that will be changing any time soon I'm afraid.
@@SamClegg Just talking semantics, we say a lot of things that don't make literal sense, but that's how the cookie crumbles, no point crying over spilled milk. English is an interesting language and on that point given its English and not American, I think we should have the last say 🙂
As a UK rider it's pretty depressing to see Erides (UK based) send their new kit all the way over to the USA for evaluation/review. I kinda get it, you are well known, but its just a sad state of affairs that we don't have our own home-based RUclipsr that can do a similar job. I guess thats what the lack of EUC legality in the UK does for us :(
Sorry about that
Hsaing sells these pedals on his site. And there are retailers and the used market too.
What are you really upset about? {there are a few US small-makers of pedals too... Chris Chapult (sp?)}
Gift ur King an EUC and ask he help change the laws. If that fails, revolution maybe.
@@grb1969 Apologies, I think you missed my point. 'Upset' is prob too strong a word. It was just the fact that it's a shame that the UK EUC scene is so lacking that UK EUC vendors are sending parts to the US for review. I wish we had the sort of EUC community that the US has, as well as a UK tuber of Marty's stature so that Afeez didn't need to take this stance. As I say, I totally get why Afeez did it, thats business.
@@ElectricUnicycles No need to be sorry, its not your problem bud! I'm subbed to you so it's not like I'm missing anything!
I got better pedals with screw in studs on my $800 Begode A2.
Exactly
The foot plates look like copy of Nylonove design. I know it is different material but raised pieces are the same and the shape with clearance cut for the jump pad. You installed the foot plates wrong way btw 😉
How exactly were they installed wrong, in your opinion :-)
Hi, The cut for the jump pad should be on the front @@ElectricUnicycles
So you put left foot plate on the right side of the wheel if you know what I mean
what you said makes sense but when I checked on erides website the cut is at the back in the image@@grzegorznaskret4453
@@grzegorznaskret4453 I've seen so many people do it this way. I guess some people really prefer it that way around even though they were not designed for it.