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If you remember, the full blood sister doesn't like him, because when Paul and Rudeus first reconnected, Rudeus started punching Paul, and the sister was there for it, she saw this strange man she didn't know was her brother attacking the only family she'd ever known. She jumped between them to stop it.
saying that paul was the only family she ever knew is wrong but you are 99% right lol
@ieremyxd okay yeah, I mistyped a bit. She may have had memories of Zenith and Lilia, but Paul was the only family she knew she had at that point in her life. Sure Paul was hoping the other two women were alive, but Noone knew for sure.
I'm sure Paul started the punching fight, what Rudy did was he used magic to fight back and eventually beat his own father down on the floor.
Unfortunately the 6 or 7 year old Norn just walked in at that exact moment seeing a boy who she never met before, beating up her father who she knew had a very bad time after the teleportation.
It conflicts her even more when she learns that boy who was beating up her father, was actually her older brother.
The older brother who she never met, but every single adult in the family him can't stop telling her how smart and wonderful this brother is.
Yeah, essentially Norn's earliest memory of her brother is negative whereas Aisha's is positive. There's more to it and it will be explored soon.
@@vardicd1477 she still has her mother side in Milis.
Nanahoshi having a mental breakdown after seeing all her hard work amounted to nothing and she’s going to be permanently stuck in a world she doesn’t understand and doesn’t belong in was devastating. I’m glad she had friends and people to help reinvigorate her and get her to hope again and keep trying
Apparently in the light novel, it was even more unhinged with Nanahoshi's breakdown. She ripped off her mask and was clawing at her face and even bashing her head against the wall.
Think about it, you love your previous world so much that in your current world (isekai) doesn't really fit you much, for example, you don't have a family to go to nor cousins, ANYTHING. With that said, I understand how she feels in that part.
@@lixarion1885 Its way worse than that, she was teloported into this world without all the affordability that anyone born into the world has, Rudy was BORN into the world. She can't do magic, sense magic, looks unnatural (like imagine a literal purple haired purple eyed person walking around, notice how few people from this world have her hair type/color) didn't know how to speak their language, spent forever not knowing anything. Lost the love of her life, lost... everything she liked, and unlike Rudy, she was a NORMAL HUMAN BEING. meaning she had reasons to keep being in her old world. I can't be sure, but I also believe she doesn't age in this world either, she's literally the definition of unnatural in this world.
@@lixarion1885 and to makes things worst, she's an anomaly even as a isekai-er. She doesn't age, she can't use magic , she didn't get the "things" that makes isekai fun. lmao
@@lixarion1885 not only that. the problem is if you remember. she CAN'T DO ANYTHING because she doesn't have mana. she got teleported, not reincarnation.
@@Kaimax61 AND SHE DONT KNOW THE LANGUAGE
In the LN the Nanahoshi scene is so more visceral. She screams, starts clawing her face and hitting her face on the wall and then goes into that almost dead like state.
truly heart wrenching.
The full-blood sister (Norn) actually loves her dad more than anyone in the world (he was her only support and comfort for the years following the mana disaster), and she hates Rudeus because the first time she remembers ever seeing him, he was beating up on her dad. Aisha not only loves Rudeus because her mother basically has told her all her life that she was going to be his servant, but also because he saved her directly from the Shirone soldiers back during those episodes.
While Nanahoshi is trying so hard to burn Compact Disc, Zanoba just gave them the idea of Multi-layered Blu-ray
2:33
Because he traumatised her during their first meeting. She saw the worst in him. You cant forget such a powerful scene.
2:41
The girls arrived exactly 3 months later after he got the letter.
14:41
Nanahoshi was singing anime songs from japan here.
Also the song that played right after was sung by Nanahoshi.
Sylphy being so open to the idea of Rudy having another woman probably has something to do with her hanging around his place as a kid and seeing how Zennith and Lilia handled things. Also she’s just naturally an overly self-sacrificing type of person who puts Rudeus’ happiness before her own to an almost dangerous degree. Thankfully Rudeus is quick to put himself in her shoes, realizing he’d never be able to do the same for her and resolving to stay loyal to just her.
I mean another big part of it is the society she is a part of. Powerful people having second wives isn't unheard of for the setting and she knows Paul did the same and that Rudy shares some traits with him. Given Rudy is also technically nobility it's pretty reasonable she'd expect that could happen. I think a lot of people kind of gloss over a lot of the cultural differences the setting has to earth. For Sylphy that's just a natural possibility given he could legally do it.
Hmm idk, think a harem ending is possible with the culture (Slyphie kinda open to the idea herself), Eris coming back will be a factor, the Greyrat bloodline... Paul had one wife then slipped up with the maid. lol
Not just Paul's relationships were a factor, but her being friends with Ariel and Luke. She knows how the nobility roll, and Rudeus still of the same house as Luke. You could say she's trying to already cope with the possibility of Rudeus' desires gettign the better of him and trying to make it so that he doesn't outright replace her, but the idea of harems and polyamorous relationships is normalized in that world.
Also monoganism is not a standard in this world. Only the Milim church practices it as a rule, and they aren't as powerful as Catholicism was in our world, for example.
The main reason most people just have one wife in this setting is money, honestly. It can get expensive.
@1mikeap4
Its also cause Rudy is a noble. She knows that nobles can have more than 1 wife and she already prepared herself if it was to happen. That was also stated in the LN.
Norn doesnt like rudy bc the only time she met him (he left to tutor eris when she was a newborn) was when she walked in on him beating up paul when they reunited in s1. So in her mind rudy must be a bad person
That's natural for child but Norn is old enough to understand the situation (of course Paul must explain it first)
@@rf7182 when things get imprinted on you as a child its very difficult to overcome those things just by a simple explanation. She also hasnt seen rudy since he met up with paul so she hasnt had the opportunity to see him as he is now
@@rf7182 you don't know how spiteful humans are, some even hate you for the sake of hating even though you are not giving them a reason to hate. Like a hater to a popular person, even if norn is "old" enough to understand, people will still hate to hate. Norn is even more so understandable because she does have a reason - bullying her dad is one (even if rudy and his dad did make up)
@@rf7182 You'd likely be surprised at how much first impressions matter. A good chunk of people bases a lot of their viewpoints on people using their first impressions as references for later actions. So if the impression is bad there is good chances they'll conflate later actions to something bad. Like that you are only being helpful to butter them up to ask for something later. Or that you are only doing terrible actions because of an outside reason because the first impression was good.
It also doesn't help that Rudeus was considered a very gifted kid by his family.
Norn definitely heard she has an older brother who left home when she was a baby.
It's not easy to like an older sibling who you know is miles better than you and you are going to live under their shadow.
Apparently the ED sang by Nanahoshi was the cover song of ツバサ from アンダーグラフ.
No Aisha already knew, she called her brother as she waved good-bye in their meeting in the first season. There's a high chance she even knew from the very beginning, she's a smart kid.
She was probably just trying him to see if the bad rumors were true, yeah. And when he proved he wasn't as degenerate as the rumors said (at least not anymore) she accepted him as her brother. Something along those lines, I'd reckon. It's pretty good writing in my opinion.
@@Matisaha "bad rumors"
Aisha was the one that created those rumors by herself, she wasn't entirely wrong, but she was using incomplete information.
@@foultarnished3134 Fair, fair.
Always the mesugakis, man. Wondering what kind of funny interactions will happen
The voice acting was on point in this episode
7:59
She's not "sick-sick". If she were, she could get healing magic. She has home sickness. She collapsed because that can happen after a violent breakdown. Last time it happened to me I stayed in bed for days.
They called what she did a tantrum, I don't believe they truly knew what was going on.
@@Axodusanyone who hasn't experienced or saw anyone close to be victim of it, could not understand it well scenes like this unless you are the type to deeply think and assimilate it, which is not common... So, it's not wrong
The kind of despair she had is debilitating to the point some stop eating entirely and just waste away until they die. What's the point? That's a common question that kept me from eating, bathing and even getting up when I was in the worst part. You just lie in bed waiting to die. I'm glad Rudeus helped Nanahoshi. It's not a fate I want for anyone. The very will to live sapped out of you until there's nothing left but a hollow shell.
@@icebox1954 Pretty much how I felt. Some good TexMex food helped.
"We're living in a 3D world," he said LITERALLY ABOUT A 2D ANIME! (lol)
RockLee had me dying for like 5 minutes straight 🤣😂🤣 for that joke @8:53. Adorkable pays so much attention to detail and I respect it, especially with her comment @6:30. Also genius comment by the Director @12:49 about seeing things in 3D should have been the thought since the beginning!!
Great review RockLee, Adorkable, and Director!!! Keep up the great reviews and excellent commentary!!!
That really was such an authentic and genuine portrayal of despair and DEFEAT!!
And to later see Nanahoshi **smiling and dancing** ..... I'm legit OVERJOYED to have witnessed it!! 🥲🥲
Ruj: Hey Rudy, btw, where's Eris?
4:53 - A possible sign for some kind of harem ending seeing how Slyphie is so casual on the topic and Eris is still some kind of factor that has to come into play in the future. We also see how Paul was too with his wife then the maid. lol
It's anime, so it's gonna be a harem. It detracts from the story, but they know what the majority of their fanbase is 🤷
@@sepg5084 There is a comment here that mentioned what Slyphie said and at the end said something about that thankfully Rudy said he'd be loyal only to her... and I'm like, idk about that. 🤣
They established really early in the story that it's a common practice to have multiple wives in this world. The only exceptions are those of the Milis faith, such as Cliff and Zenith who believe in monogamy
@@cybersoul2809 Yeah, Paul did monogamy for Zenith's sake, and he still got tempted to cheat with having S-tier wife.
You all are in a wild ride. Missing a vital character. Wait and watch ;>
Imagine if they made a Transmutation Circle 😂
💀💀
Remember syphie grew up seeing Paul with two wives, that’s why she’s ok with the idea
Plus hanging out with Ariel and Luke...
No its considered normal there, that's why. the reason it's a big deal when he does it is because Zenith is a Millis faith follower so Paul promised to be monogamous.
@@mr.protagonist5639 And Zenith tried to inculcate Rudeus with her ideals as well. Well, even if she can't stop him from gathering multiple wives, her aim was to raise him to treat them all right.
13:29 This water bottle was in the OP with flowers in it btw.
ever since he said that line why do i feel like she wont be the only one he end up marrying well i wouldn't mind another as long he loves them all equally
Spoilers:
He does. Until the very end.
The big thing Norn has against Rudeus is the first time she met him in her own memory (she was still very young when Rudeus was sent to tutor Eris) was Rudeus kicking Paul's ass in that tavern in Millishion. I'm going to leave it at that because it will obviously be a major theme for the next few episodes, but that is the foundation of why Norn dislikes her brother.
The ending is an old J-POP
by Nanahoshi covers, it like she's singing at Karaoke.
The lyrics tell us Nanahoshi's mind, check out the English translation.
4:43 the snicker/laugh of Lee with zero fate in my poor boy Rudy is something everyone was feeling hahaha...
Dammit you two lmaooo! 18:56
Amazing episode that showcases not everyone is happy to be isekai'd. With that ending you can already tell things are going to get spicy!
8:53 that would honestly be super hilarious 😂
8:53 Think they got oxtails in this world?
17:41 Glory!
17:13 One of the reasons Full-Blood Sister (aka., Norn) hates Rudy is because of the fight Rudy had with Paul during Season 1 Part 2 Episode 16.
It doesn't have much to do with the Mom (aka., Zenith), because Norn didn't really spend time with Rudy much to know him properly.
7:00 it wasn't a tantrum, it was an existential breakdown, she was destroying stuff out of dread that she would never see the loved ones from her previous life again and she couldn't accept it, it was purely out of a deep sense of pain and dread. She was desperately grasping for a lifeline but felt deep down that nothing was there to save her. Thankfully Rudeus was there to save her from that dark place.
I observed “an uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration” you can use whatever wording. It equates to the same observation.
Tantrum does match the definition though
@@YaBoyRockLee I believe wording is paramount, the word tantrum is used to describe emotional events that aren't as serious as existential breakdowns.
Semantically speaking you're correct. It's not wrong to call it that, it just doesn't aptly describe or give justice to how deeply she had fallen.
It'd be like attributing a character to being "sad" when the correct word to describe them would be "extremely depressed", it's not _wrong_ to call them sad but it doesn't accurately describe their actual emotional state to merely call them "sad".
It sucks that they skipped the party scene. As part of the celebration they went to a pub, Nanahoshi tried to rent out the entire place to themselves while Badigadi who joined in without being invited doubled it to give unlimited free rounds to everyone and order one of everything on the menu. Nanahosi got smashed started singing anime openings in Japanese (badly). Rudy found out the Sylphie is a very clingy drunk and refers to her as an "adorable creature" and Nanahoshi complains that throughout the week she stayed with them she kept hearing Rudy and Sylphie going at it.
Norn hates Rudeus because her only memory of him is him beating the shit out of Paul in season 1.
Don't you remember the full blood sister being there when Rudeus was beating up their dad and she ran up and started yelling at him to stop? That's why she doesn't like him.
The special ED for this ep sang by Nanahoshi in the scene at the party. Can't wait for full cover version
The orginal song: Tsubasa by Under Graph🥰🥰🥰
4:42 Stop the cap Rudy 😂😂
Ruijerd is baaack
No norn doesn't hate her dad we saw her in season 1 episode 16 get mad at rudeus for beating on paul in their fight. In season 1 rudeus sees her 2 times one time as a baby and the second time when she is travelling with paul. So to norn's her first real introduction to rudeus is him beating on her dad, because she hadn't seen rudeus since she was a infant. Rudeus was like 7 when he went to eris and didn't see them for years so to norn her fight with paul was probably her first introduction to him.
Maybe hanging out with Rudy and the others would actually give Nanahoshi reasons to like her life here. She's been in that attic all this time just churning out summoning circles constantly and talking to no one (other than Rudy, but that's recent) and before she was hanging out with the Dragon God, so she hasn't rlly connected with people in general. So, even if she chooses to leave (cause she's been working on this research for a while), she didn't have a awful time in this universe
Well I'm sure Rudy will be able to handle his sister not liking him after all Aisha talked about not liking her brother to Rudy when they didn't know they were family at the time
Nanahoshi farm from home
Nanahoshi no way home
Hope there will be nanahoshi home coming 😂😢
You cooked with these 🤣🤣🤣
Sylphie was ok with him having a concubine because unless you're a part of the Milis faith like Cliff or Zenith, having multiple wives is a common practice in this world
a common practice for people with last names (nobles)
@@reignmans it's more common with nobles because they can more easily afford (monetarily) to have multiple wives
"Maybe he just sucks at healing" No, he's learned Advanced healing at the uni, but he can't get his head around doing it without chanting.
Exactly. Hence the statement
@@YaBoyRockLee Then I must've misunderstood what you'd meant.
IIRC the Millis government and the Church forbid any other institution but themselves from teaching Saint-tier healing, so Rudeus has gotten as good as it gets with healing magic training at the uni. He just doesn't have the ability to fine-tune it like Sylphie does.
@@Tounushi just different ways to the say the same thing. Some ways are better such as yours.
If there was more time to explain the comment we’d be on the same page
@@YaBoyRockLee Knowing the best healing magic the government has to offer isn't exactly compatible with the phrase "sucks at healing".
@@YaBoyRockLee he just doesn't understand how it works. in order for anyone to do incantationless magic they need to have a great understanding of how the spell works be it hte physics around it or the way you want it to do healing, or how it could work in their mind. that's my understanding.
thats why rudeus can create his own spells that aren't in this worlds spell books (like the rock bullet/drill, or the almost atomic fusion purple ball that shot to orsted in season 1) he understands or has knowledge of how these things work or the principles behind them and made it happen.
The growth of Rudeus was isane!
Nanahoshi represents Well a person who is not an otaku going to a isekai world xD 😅
Even worse, an Otaku would also go crazy. They wouldn't have their videogames and mangas😂 I am honestly surprised she endured 6 years, she is strong
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 yes she is strong, but at least she have friends now
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 Well, she did get to hang out with a dreamy Dragon God
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No he doesnt need to look for his mom anymore in case you forgot that. His mom has been found and Paul and his team are on their way to get her. He just needs to live a married life until princess Ariel returns to Asura.
Yer was good
Zanoba, the reliable
If I recollect correct, In the books she takes some days to walk again. Rudeus and Sylph really take care of her.
Sylph best girl forever ❤
Im 100% sure if ruijerd play League of Legends, his main would be Jax for sure
The negative bond points and the mesugaki sisters has arrived. _Yabai desune?_
No more sudden funny things in the house for Rudy with Sylphie, SFW install.
Reminder that "Full blood" sister met her brother beating his hard working tired father so... Yeah, will have a long way for her to get along with Rudeus despite still respecting him for his accomplishments.
muse asia have better translation regarding this series i would recomend for watching it from them.
Can you reaction to parasite the gray
We can try
Missed the after credits? :)
Yup. If you stick around
@@YaBoyRockLee My bad, I was watching at work on the sly ;)