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Good selection. Gundam 00 could go on that list as well. It was from the same airdate as Code Geass and is another Bandai/Sunrise series with two 25 episode seasons.
The poetic irony of Lelouch’s original goal of wanting to live peacefully with Nunnally, and Suzaku wanting to die for his sins, only for them to get their respective goals instead, is a great capstone to both of their character arcs. Even way back in episode 1 Lelouch said, “the only ones who should kill are those prepared to be killed.” My favorite anime to date, so happy that both enjoyed it!
It is poetic irony and the big lie - Suzaku wanted to live with a beautiful women and Leluch wanted to win the world for his ambitions. They did a better world, but it was complicated motivations.
@@ovento7438agreed the masks they wore were the desire to die for their sins and live a peaceful life. The true poetry I see is that had the sword of Akasha succeeded they would have had to face this fact. I believe it’s why both Su and Le even acknowledge right before using geass on god that isn’t nunnuly just an excuse. Basically admitting that if Charles succeeded they would be forced to acknowledge what you said and remove the masks.
On the "Nunally is the only one crying at Lelouch's death", the funny part is that it also mirrors Euphy's death, with Suzaku crying over her death while the Japanese chant for Zero.
My read on the interaction between Toto and Kallen is that both of them actually fully realized what's happening, but when Toto is about to verbalize it, Kallen corrects him to state the intent of going along with it, so by stating that it's Zero, she's shaping that as the reality.
It's not even really a read, just a fact, at least where Kallen is concerned. Could maybe make an argument for it being slightly vague for Todo, but Kallen clearly realized what was happening.
You guys were one of the best Code Geass commenters for me. The way you talk about each and every episode, theories and idea and predictions and the reactions you give were all fantastic. I purely starting watching you guys from Jan due to Code Geass reaction and now aboslutely love you guys and def be sticking around. Also, if you guys or anyone in here doesn't know, Code Geass season 3 is a thing which started literally just 3 weeks back with 3 episodes. Its called Code Geass: Roze of the Recapture. So if you guys are up for it, that'll be a great reaction as well
The roze show is set in the same timeline as the resurrection movie so you’d have to watch that first. And maybe even the akito OVAs considering one character’s outfit but I’m not entirely sure yet.
@@volumeoneplus again I would very much recommend watching at least the resurrection movie before Roze. You don’t need to watch the recap movies that came before resurrection as the only major difference from the show that’s relevant is one character who died in the show lived in the recap movies. Edit: Which is something I can tell you now if you now so you’re all caught up if you’d like
I know I'm a month late but just to break your heart even further, it mirrors the death of Euphy where everyone chanted "Zero" while their loved ones, Suzaku and Nunally, hold them and cry in agony. The show has a lot of those mirroring scenes when you compare it from one season to another.
@@Im_somebody_you_wont_remember I know, I didn’t notice it until recently when I rewatched with a friend of mine and she pointed out that the start of season 2 when lelouch’s memories were awakened, it was very similar to season 1 when lelouch’s power awakened. A squad of soldiers ordered to die after cornering lelouch and lelouch stealing a sutherland the same way he stole villeta’s
Fun facts from the interweb: Lelouch believed that you had to start a rebellion/work from the outside to achieve peace, while Suzaku thought the opposite-and in the end, both their views were needed to make their dream a reality. Lelouch took Suzaku's philosophy and took over as Emperor, and Suzaku took Lelouch's philosophy and became Zero. The appearance of Zerozaku has the same music as Zero's debut in R1, when Lelouch uses Geass on Jeremiah in front of a global audience. At different points in R2, when Lelouch has doubts about continuing, he gets told by Kallen to continue lying to her until the end to free Japan, and by Suzaku to turn his lies into truths and work with him to make things better. And during the Zero Requiem arc he lies to Kallen to free Japan (and to prevent her from suffering with him in his Zero-Approval Gambit), and he works with Suzaku to make all Zero's talk about making a better world actually true. - Drakyndra The Geass symbol looks like a bird in flight. Folded cranes are used throughout the series as a symbol for a wish. Near the end, Lelouch reflects that Geass is like a wish... Lelouch and Suzaku both gained power from performing a noble act. Lelouch ended up in the terrorists’ truck because, unlike the other people standing around, talking, and taking pictures of the crash, he went down to see if anyone was hurt. Suzaku refused to shoot his best friend, even under threat of discharge or death, so he was wounded and Lloyd and Cecile found him. This led to them allowing him to pilot the Lancelot. I'm not sure if this was deliberate, but I've noticed something interesting about the episode references to Lelouch as a demon as well as his tendency to speak of himself this way. Lelouch has a much remarked similarity to Light in Death Note, but of course, Light always refers to himself as God. This really underscores how different the two characters actually are It always bugged me that in R2 the mechas always explode after receiving fatal damage, something which happened less in R1. But then I realized that the new mecha were built after the conquest of Japan, the worlds largest supply of sakuradite, which was used as a mecha power source. The knightmares were upgraded with more sakuradite, and thus made big explosions. There's also the audio drama that shows how Clovis originally decided to take that position. He clearly has no inclination towards war and politics, and no desire to involve himself in it, but in the Britannian royal family, if you're not a soldier, you're trash. Cornelia and Schneizel are incredibly rude to him and he just takes it. Then he tells them that he has accepted the position of viceroy of Area 11, and they're shocked and they don't think he can do it. He tells them he wants to do it to make Lelouch's "final resting place" peaceful for him, for the younger brother who never knew how much Clovis cared for him. Euphemia tells Clovis that Lelouch sent her a letter and mentioned making friends with a boy his age in Japan. Clovis says that he thinks he should be gentle to the Elevens in that case, since Lelouch had a friend among them. Both Cornelia and Schneizel tell him that he can't let himself be soft, and that a viceroy should be ruthless.
@@JaegerFelipe Other thoughts on Clovis from the people of the internet: For all the time he's alive, he's basically your typical Smug Snake, incompetent but callous ruler, who perhaps earns a bit of sympathy for his death but is otherwise just someone to showcase the evils of the Britannian Empire and let Lelouch have his Curb-Stomp Battle. Then the rest of his appearance (or rather, when he's referred to) spend their time deconstructing this notion: he clearly loved his family, he was a fairly talented artist, he even treasured all of his visits with Lelouch when they were younger, despite the fact that he always lost their games of chess - not the reaction you'd expect he of the hopeless ego to have. Even his most horrendous action, the demolition of the Shinjuku ghetto, is, if not justified, certainly given an excuse - it becomes abundantly clear over the rest of the show that Clovis really would've gotten in quite a lot of trouble with a lot very powerful, very nasty people if anything with C.C. had come to light. So, whilst the action he took was still monstrous, one can understand his being a tad irrational with fear at the time - indeed, one even realises that this probably him in the worst light possible. All in all, it becomes apparent that for all his many failings and the typical vices of the Social Darwinist Britannian aristocracy, Clovis was actually quite a nice guy. A Jerkass? Yes, by dint of the job. Interestingly the four kids we see Charles either say he likes (Lelouch and Nunnally) or hint at (the photos of Clovis and Euphemia in C's world) are the ones the most removed from social darwinistic goals. Clovis is the closest but he's a painter and aritst by nature and not a politician, leader, and would probably be happier if he had stayed out of politics. The kids he likes are the ones that are the farthest from his false persona as possible.
I've seen that ending so many times from different reactors. I think Kallen and the rest of the black knights knew that the person in the Zero mask was a different person. I think they knew that this crazy scenario was something the real Zero would think of, the real Zero being Leulouch.
Kallen yes, because she specifically says that it is Zero as she's seen him do the shell game swap multiple times, the rest of the black knights less likely as they never knew that aspect of him.
@@shadowfiresword There is no way Todoh, Ohgi, Rakshata, Xingke etc. aren't smart enough to figure out who this Zero is and that this was planned by Lelouch. The regular Black knight grunts and people like Tamaki probably didn't figure it out unless someone else told them about it for some reason.
@@Jakokokoroko What makes you say that? None of the ones you mentioned have seen lelouch do the zero in one place school boy in another location scheme before. In addition to that, baring todoh and kallen none of them have had any meaningful interactions with suzaku. Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying they aren't smart by any means, they are especially rakshata, but being smart doesn't help nearly as much as you are portraying against a trick/tactic you haven't encountered or heard about before. I mean hell the entire lot of them were caught off guard when Lelouch pulled the ground out from under them via volcanic eruption in the final battle, despite it being one of his favorite strategems and one they had seen on multiple occasions. Now are they likely to recognize that the zero in the end isn't the same one they were fighting with for 90% of the series, obviously. But who is in the suit and why this is being played out on the world stage are likely to slip past them. Especially since as far as the world knows Suzaku died in the last battle and has been dead for months.
@@Jakokokoroko Nah, its more like they dont know who is wearing the mask BUT they know its another Lelouch Play. Their reactions speaks for it. Nobody cheered but a concerned reaction upon realization.
Everyone always says this is one of the best endings. For me personally, this is the best ending. I watched this anime last year, and before that, I knew nothing about it. Also, both Lelouch and Code Geass have been my favorite characters and anime until now.
I would say there are other anime that have great endings. I tend to put them all on the same tier in that way. FMA Brotherhood has a really satisfying ending to me as well.
“The only people who should kill are those prepared to be killed”. Lelouch said this at the end of R1 episode 1, right before he used Geass for the first time to kill Britannian soldiers. The exact sequence repeated in R2 episode 1. Now that is what I call foreshadowing.
There's actually a ton. Kallen told Lelouch to "Play your role like you mean it. Keep fooling us until you no longer can." earlier in the season. There're tons of dialog that you can say foreshadowed this ending. Small things people told him, and he took to heart.
And this is the reason this show is my favorite anime. Nothing can top it. I love how she mention Nana touched Lelouch and saw everything that was a big part of how the Code geass R.R theory came around too
Nunnally doesn't see his memories. She can sense the truth when touching someone's hand, we've seen that happen multiple times during the anime Even the writers have said in an interview that Nunnally didn't see any memories. It wouldn't have been possible anyways because Lelouch doesn't have a code, so he couldn't do that The writers have officially confirmed that Lelouch is dead and never had a code On the 2009 DVD C.C. herself explicitly explains that Lelouch is dead The anime's established lore makes it literally impossible for Lelouch to have a code because it was set in stone that if you get the code you lose the geass, and Lelouch never lost his geass
thank you for the reaction of this anime, i think its the best reaction and discussion till now in youtube, you deserve more subs and i really enjoyed watching every episode
The whole episode is so damn amazing and heart-wrenching at times like still the best ending to any anime or manga I can think of or seen. For once and for all, All Hail Lelouch Vi Britannia!!! How so much comes full circle is so awesome and Lelouch's final moments, oh man 😢
Kallen understood what happened right after nunnally did. If you read her poem, she knew lelouch knows that Kallen would follow him to hell so he swerved her
This is one of my favorite series. Lelouch is such a good protagonist. The ending pretty much sets the bar for good endings. And there are so many twists and turns in the story, and it feels like that status quo changes every few episodes. An absolutely legendary series.
and that was Code Geass, still one of my all time favorite anime, is it perfect? no, not at all but its such a wonderful story that i love it all the same, thank you for watching it all the way to the end, and im glad you enjoyed it as much as you did
Discovered your playlist through a casual search a week ago. Such a wonderful journey watching alongside you! Really appreciate your in-depth discussions and observant style. I'm from China and watched both seasons back in 2009 when I was still a teenage boy. That lelouch's ending left me in shock. In the CN community, fans are divided over the ending: some believe in the Cart-driver theory, while others believe in the Dead-to-the-ash theory. I used to be a Cart-driver believer because of how much I love the main character. However, looking back now, I believe that his death elevates the entire series, making Code Geass a timeless masterpiece and classic.
Some comments are talking about the "special" ending with Lelouch smirking at the end after CC said "Right Lelouch". Its a fake edit that has been debunked 10 years ago. You could just try to find it on YT. Its a fake edit, the drawing lines are pixelated, the broadcasting station TBS logo wasn't even shown in that video. No one in the Japanese fandom ever discussed that ending at all
It's kinda ironic that the showrunners unintenionally came up with such a fascinating concept of Schrödinger's Lelouch and then scrapped it in favor of the stupidest and cheapest cash grab imaginable. The industry could definitely use better writers, because everyone tends to relly on adapting material rather than creating something like Code Geass, which could never exist in manga or any other medium.
I think that one of the reasons this ending works so well and is so beloved all these years later is that Lelouch started as a sympathetic character who did good things for bad and selfish reasons but ended up as a character that had a genuine change of heart that did bad things for good reasons. He gave hope to an oppressed people while only wanting to use them for his own gains but ended up actually helping them in the end
This is what makes Code Geass so so memorable, it's far from a flawless series but with so many enemy struggling with finding a good ending, this final episode is just perfect
It has been debunked officially by the Code Geass director that Nunally didnt see any vision when she touched Lelouch's hands. She just realized that he wasn't lying, and that all this was part of the plan. It was in Mook Media 2009 interview. During the screening of the last recap movie, the director also clarified that immortal code doesn't need the code receiver to die first before it could be activated. When Charles fell down after getting shot by Lelouch in R2 ep15, he was already immortal and only trolling his son.
Thankyou for your journey! It was very fun watching the reaction & the discussion. Actually there's a picture drama about the happy ending time skip you mentioned, it's called "Kiseki no Birthday"
36:45 this show is like an inverted saturday morning cartoon. Zero has cobra commander from GI Joe energy or like shedder from teenage mutant ninja turtles. Suzaku is the “good guy” main character always showing up at the last minute and foiling the bad guys plans. That’s why zero always looks evil in promos and stuff his character is literally villain coded
If they ever make a Netflix live action it’d be funny if they showed it from suzakus perspective and didn’t reveal zero’s identity until suzaku finds out
Here is my take, why I think the ending could be realistic: At the start of the show, we had Britannia as a super power, dominating a huge portion of the world, we had china which could be a super power, but had a lot of intern problems like corruption, the EU which isn't a super power and a lot of lose countries, with nearly no relevance at that time. After the whole princess of China thing, China broke down in a civil war. After Lelouch destroyed the order of geass and V.V. died, he created the UFN (United Federation of Nations). Which contained most nations of the world (including parts of china, but not all of it), one rule of the UFN was, that no nation can have it's own army, instead they have the Black Knights as an contract force, which most likely contains the soliders of the former armys of the member nations. So we technically we had two super powers with the UFN and Britania at that point, with Lelouch as Emporer of Britania declaring war onto the UFN. Lelouch won that war, but we can asume that a lot of soliders lost their lives and tons of war materials got destroyed. And Schizel got ordert to follow Zero. After that we got a 2 month time skip, in which Lelouch played the evil dictator, but most likely he also conquered the remining Nations and disarmed them, as well as dismantled a lot of his military power, that was not needed to keep control. (At least I would do that in his position at that point.) After Lelouch died we got Zero (Suzaku) as Leader of the Black Knights, also the Core Members of the Black Knights, which knew that Lelouch was Zero, as well as Lelouchs inner circle, do know that Suzaku is now Zero. Since either they knew enough to piece it together or they knew of the Plan since Lelouch told them. What happend next is most likely that they rebuild the UFN with Britania as a Member this time, since Nunally is most likely temporary leader of Britania. And I suspect she would make the deal to reduce Britanias Voting Power in the UFN. They most likely would renew the System that no member nation is allowed to have an army and the Black Knights will be the Peachkeepers again and will be lead by Suzaku for a really long time, since it is unlikely he will die in an unnatural way before his time has come. The UFN with Britania should be in control of over 90-95% of the World and the Black Knights should not be a small force. So peace should be gurenteed for a long time. Sure there are a lot of internal problems everywhere and Kallen stated it herself, that there a still a lot of problems. Also they did not solve world hunger or such things, it was stated that the energy that was focused on wars, is not directed at things like solving world hunger. I personally would say we got a stable situation for at least 50 years and regarding what they achieved in these 50 years, there is a good chance that it will hold way longer. Most likely after Suzaku stops being the leader of the Black Knights, they will go for a council instead of an single leader, since it splits the power to a bigger number of people. How long it will hold after Suzaku is gone, depends on the question how likely it is that the democratic leadership will get corrupt. From what I've seen around the world, the less internal crisis a country has, the more unlikely it is that the leadership will get corrupt. Since people would Vote against people that have been found to be corrupt, the more internal crisis a coutry has the more the votes change to people that tell you that they will solve the problem and most likely they are people that seem to be succsessful in live, regardless of how they got there. So the chance increases for corrupt people to get power. So it really depends on how the next 50 years develop, while the OG people that know or could guess the plan, who want to keep peace, are in positions of power.
Earlier when Lelouch first became Emperor he dismantled the nobility and then, stripped and divided their assets. Before the UFN meeting we see the leadership of the Black Knights briefly discussing the positive changes he’d made. In the following two months post defeating Schnizel it’s not hard to believe that his enslaved operatives, working as officials and leaders, wouldn’t have been given orders to target corruption and build in safeguards in the systems they worked in as well.
The world, after WWII, was very similar to the end of CG. United Nations to mediate disputes. Most of the world being reduced in military might from the war. Us all being united against Germany and Japan (and to a lesser extent Italy) And the "perpetual peace" theorists invisioned was over in less than a year as Ruasia and the US began becoming adversarial and Russia began taking advantage of the power vacuum We know the Zero Requiem will fail because we saw this sort of thing fail in the real world. Zero just "reset" the world and gave us a chance to restart things/do it better the second time around
You know, the biggest problem with the end that even with all being said and done - the death of Lelouch leaves a massive power vacuum, regardless of his intentions and plans. Uniting against common enemy is known thing for humans, but such alliances don't hold for long before people start fighting over resources and land and their cultures again and again. The logistics of maintaining peace all over the world for a single organisation like Black Knights is an unbearable task, especially since they ought to wait direct orders of UFN Council to proceed.
@@mahpell7173 I don't think the Black Knights were a sole military force at that point. From the little we see of in the Epilogue Nunnally was meeting with the UFN. Given the UFN was an alliance made up of many nations like the EU there was far less of a power vacuum. You're right in regards to Britania though, but with Schniezel, Cornelia and Suzaku there I think there'd be a lot of checks in place. Still imo, Britania is too big for just Nunnally to rule even with the aspects I mentioned. I think it's more likely that she'd give into demands of independence from parts of the Empire sooner than she'd maintain power while discontent grows to violent resistance. That violence wouldn't survive Lelouch's checks however. The biggest aspect in all of this is how long with the symbol of the demon Emperor and Zero be able to effect culture in such a way where leadership is heavily scrutinized? Eventually things will fall apart but if humanity can always point back to a lesson such as the Demon Emperors rise to power, than that can be a mitigating aspect on the oppression of people which might curb violence to some extent. I don't think we as people could get any more than that when it comes to everlasting peace outside of some sort of divine intervention of overwhelming oppression. So in the end, I think you’re right.
@@TheOriginalInferno Agreed. Also, we have an example of alt-verse continuation, where we have independent countries with massive military power. The Geass is also a very big variable, since hell knows how many Users are out there, an how dangerous their powers are. And since in this timeline Lelouch is supposed to be dead completely, there is hardly a worthy opponent for someone with a Geass like Shamna.
You two should watch Gundam 00. It's another series made Sunrise and it was aired during the same time as Code Geass. Both had very satisfying moments and 00 has a good premise like Code Geass did.
I'm glad I was not the only one who thought that. Similar premises with different ways of achieving the same goal of peace. I would say 00's way is like a fusion of Lelouch and Charles plans.
*Thank you guys for reacting to Code Geass ❤️ i love that you enjoyed it so much ❤️, i loved your reaction to nunnaly crying aswell, it was really touching that you guys shed tears ❤️ i love it ❤️ this reaction is so perfect ❤️*
Its astonishing how much had to be in place for the Zero Requiem to work. Two key things: He had to separate Lelouch from Zero in the eyes of the Black Knights He had to make himself and only himself the enemy of LITERALLY everyone The first, he managed by confronting them in person, with Xingke finally refering to him as Lelouch being the enemy of the world instead of Zero. For Schneitzel, Zero and Lelouch were never separate, since he didnt have a connection with either of them beyond adversary. This was important for the geass command to work. Also important that Schneitzel could not see Zero kill Lelouch, as it would have fucked with his command. Like this, Zero was kept being a symbol for justice. Secondly, making himself the sole enemy, he had to make a victim of - Suzaku: dead - Lloyd and co.: switched sides at last minute - his army: with the Black Knights knowing about Geass, they knew they were not willing. Also the wording "be my slaves" is interesting since it might also hold the resentment that comes from being a slave, hence they also cheer at the end. - Britannia as a whole- abolishing the aristocracy, the royal family and changing the chant to "All hail Lelouch" works to separate him as a ruler from his people, putting Britannia the country on the same level as any other country he overtook. - Jeremiah was left to destroy all unnecessary remaining Geasses and I guess to be exiled to an orange farm It helps that those deciding the fate of the world going forwards were in on it, forcing them to be better for all the sacrifices to be worth it. He also made sure there is a counter to the deadliest weapon in the world, so there is no arms race and blew up the biggest Sakuradite mine in the world. The two issues I found were: If anyone supported tyrant Lelouch and his policies without being Geassed because they were some kinda fanatics. There is always someone like that, in such a big population... If any conspiracy theorist questions why he was killed with the same sword he himself was waving around at the deciding battle.
I mean as for your last sentence there is 1 explanation: the explanation for the sword could be claimed to be a replica of said sword to make being killed by it ironic...and it's not like that'd be the first time it's been done in the series, he did the same thing with Clovis's personal vehicle in season 1 with turning a trash heap into something that looked like Clovis's car on the outside. Of course they can be retroactive reports that it was stolen as well if anyone investigated it. The point above that one though is more or less why the Roze anime exists...granted not sure I'd say they were fantatics of Lelouch but just the Britannian empire in general that Lelouch wasn't able to get with his Geass/the Black Knights and United Nations failed to take care of after his 'death' in the alternate universe (who knows what's going on in OG universe or if they'll ever go back to it with a new series...probably won't though as most fans don't want it marred (hell they hated the changes in the R movies, the sequel movie to those, and now the Roze series (granted as of the current episode I'd say Roze is at least decent...nowhere as good as OG Code Geass but probably better than everything besides maybe Akito)).
Just my take: Kallen understood the whole thing once Suzaku started the whole zigzag dodging. and when that happen, she's crying while saying it's Zero (Because Toudou was about to say is that Suzaku, he's his former boss and recognized his abilities.) She did that because she knows if she doesn't, the whole plan of Lelouch and Suzaku's sacrifice will be wasted. Zero have to be Zero and not Suzaku. At this point, Zero is now just a symbol.
I loved watching it again alongside you guys ❤ I have enjoyed Eva, Tengen and now Geass with the best duo on the platform 🥳 Tho I feel sad. Don’t know why, but I connected with Geass again and it hurts to see it end 😞
This is in my opinion the best ending I’ve seen in anime (potentially anything I’ve watched anime or not) the three characters who must give up the one thing they want most are also the 3 characters who directly used the FLEIJA, Suzaku who wants nothing more then to die as punishment for the sin of killing his father must live on, Lelouch who wants nothing more then to live in a world where he and his sister can live peacefully will die without getting to see that world and Nunnally who wants nothing more then to live with her brother in happiness will have to live without him The perfect way to end what is a brilliant show
"and for those that comitted the great sin of killing their own father they received the harshest punishment: lelouch who wanted to create world where he could peacefully live with his little sister had to die to make that world a reality suzaku who wanted to attone for his sin by dying to save others had to live to keep this world a reality"
Thank you guys for reacting to one of the top Anime-only (there was no manga, LN, or WN, just a dream and Cheese-kun). Absolutely love watching you guys watch with a fresh/open mind about how this world is presenting its problems and everyone's solution to solving it. About the movies/extra...Akito the exile is a great few episode OVA that takes place between the seasons. The movies on the other hand are a "recap", but it is more of a build up to the Re'surrection movie. Not going to explain anymore, but if you do decide to watch them, should be okay to watch the first 2 on your own as it would help understand whats different for the 3rd.
If you watch the movie, you can react to a new/ongoing show. The first 3 films are a separate, but 90% identical recap universe. The only changes are derived from trying to trim the story. But movie 4, Lelouch of the Resurrection, takes place after the Zero Requiem AND its end credit scene sets up a new series : Roze of the Recapture - which is airing its dub right now! Only 2 eps in. You can jump right from the end of R2 to Lelouch of the Resurrection if you can set aside/acknowledge Shirley being alive due to her stories being cut.
@@LTDLetsPlays 7 yrs isnt bad though. Everyone expected world peace after we unified against the Nazi's and Japanese as a common enemy. When we set up the UN to settle things peacefully. It only took a few yrs for our sh!t to fall apart lol
Speaking of head cannon, there is a theory out there that Lelouch survives the requiem by taking on C's code making him immortal. This way he can watch over the world that his sister is living in and making sure it doesn't go back down the path of violence, all sparked by the line at the end with C2 in the cart saying 'Right lelouch.' But it is also possible that he is just living in her memory palace to, so make of it what you will.
That's not just headcanon, it was supposed to be canon, but then they moved that continuation to an alternate timeline and it's up to the viewers wether the ressurected lelouch is recap lelouch or if it's this lelouch in the recap lelouch's body (something something c's world being destroyed when Charles died so no Lelouch in the c's world somthing). I perfer the latter as I really like the end of ressurection for CC's sake, but this being the final ending is great.
PLEASE watch Lelouch of the Re;surrection movie. It does follow the recap movies timeline, which basically an alternate take on the original story that changes a few minor things other than 1 change, which is Shirley doesn't die. Thats the only important change you have to know before watching Re;surrection, otherwise the main events that happen are the same. It provides a nice end to all the characters especially C.C. Love your reactions!❤
PLEASE watch Lelouch of the Re;surrection movie. It does follow the recap movies timeline, which is basically an alternate take on the original story that changes a few minor things other than 1 change, which is Shirley doesn't die. Thats the only important change you have to know before watching Re;surrection, otherwise the main events that happen are the same. It provides a nice end to all the characters especially C.C. Also love your reactions, can't wait for Cowboy Bebop!❤
Code Geass is in my top 5 of anime and one that i can say for 💯 is a masterpiece and if they remastered it wiith either better masterpiece animation, sound quality, the story, and characters development for every character there. Which is why as a veteran in the nerd community on almost all category of nerdism. And this here outside of OP, OPM, Demon Slayer, JJK, Trigun, Naruto, AOT, Yugioh, Pokemon, Death Note, and a few others etc. Thats Is 💯 % a Masterpiece shoot i got a top 10 and top 20 list because there are some great anime nd manga/manwha i wanna bring to ppl attention Of I could given this anime above a 10 I would, it deserves a 20/10 but 10/10 and S tier and a Masterpiece in the Trash to Masterpiece list. But we'll see.❤🎉😂❤is
There's some cool double meanings to the ending when you factor in Lelouch's promise to fulfill C.C. and Nunally being able to see Lelouch's past when she touched him. Certified classic
Important note: The movies and such that came after are not canon. The creator said himself those are AU, but Lelouch's death at the end of the series is the canon end to his story
Lelouch didn't make like total world peace, what he made is symbolicly connected to "the great peace" which is a term coined after ww2. This is enforced by the last movie of the alternate timeline (Ressurection) where a country Zhinistan or what it's called was thriving of war since their main source of income was weapon and explosives productions. So conflicts still reign on in the Code Geass universe.. My view is that it's symbolic to chess, where the white side has the advantage and is the aggressor, and Britannia was the white side for along time but Lelouch flipped the board so now the biggest countries powers focus on democracy and are members of the united states of federations and the insurgents are remnants of the warmongers who now takes the black, defensive side. It's hard to put in words because the chess symbolism in this series are very narrative focused, even to the point of breaking chess rules in favor of foreshadowing major events in the show. Check out "how lelouch led with the king" by Kato for a great rundown on the chess symbolism in this show.
Oh no, I was hoping to see them wear their C.C. and Lelouch cosplays again Still, it was very nice to see his reaction throughout the first and second seasons Next time please watch Lelouch of Re;surrection And maybe Akito The Exiled from Code Geass too
@@rezero_Subaru nobody said it was bad anyway, but It wouldn't make sense for them to react to that movie without watching the prequel movies first, IIRC Shirley was alive in the movie
So without spoiling it……there is a lore reason for why Nunally can see Lelouchs memories. She had no powers but it isn’t the first time we’ve seen individuals pass on memories. Also the recap movies change a few small things, in particular Shirley doesn’t die. sorry for that spoiler but it didn’t sound like you planned to watch it and her inclusion in the next movie would not have made sense without you knowing that. Some other commenter I came across really put Lelouches strategy into perspective. He purposely mind controlled all his wouldbe rivals for the throne and then purposely sacrifices them in the last battle by sending them into the Freya warheads path. He also destroys MT Fuji which was part of the reason the war started over liquid sakuradite. Which means wagering wars with nightmare frame became ridiculously expensive.
Nunnally doesn't see his memories. She can sense the truth when touching someone's hand, we've seen that happen multiple times during the anime Even the writers have said in an interview that Nunnally didn't see any memories. It wouldn't have been possible anyways because Lelouch doesn't have a code, so he couldn't do that
My favorite part is always when Lelouch's friends and sister realize what's going on. When they realize his real plan. That's when they, themselves, break free of the Geass that their bonds with him were fabricated. Brings the tears every time.
I disagree on "the Word Is not that Easy" speach, if we think back to WWII was a such devastating war that when Hitler died no One in Europe would more war Just cooperate, sure It was the all Cold war in America, Vietnam etc but in Europe we didnt see a war since then, so Is realistic that after a great conflict Nation Just Sais "stop the war work on how live in peace togheter"
This ending hits still ..now you should switch it up and watch some more adventure type..like sword art online , promised Neverland, classroom of the elite, and seraph of the end
Still stands as one of the solid series that offers every genre of anime and a powerful story with badass MC. I've been watching this series for 7times now and still not getting tired of it.
This was a great conversation you guys really understood the material here so bravo. A few notes based on your conversation. - Nunnally can read hearts via touch. Only she and Suzaku have "superhuman" level traits in the series. - There is peace becauseLelouch chose all world leaders: Lelouch created the UFN, dismantled nobility and made Nunnally Empress of Britannia, Suzaku/Zero protects her like Lelouch always as a Knight of justice, and Schneizel is a brilliant statesman hypnotized to serve "Zero" not Lelouch. All of Emperor Lelouch's staff was pardoned because they were forced and betrayed him at the end. - Tohdoh trained Suzaku he knows him anywhere. As you mentioned Kallen realized and bought into Lelouch's miracle "That is Zero." - That float was specifically designed so that Lelouch could be with Nunnally at the end. - Suzaku wants to die, but to Lelouch the "Live" command is a gift for his friend. - Nunnally and Euphy are the only 2 people who were able to resist Lelouch's Geass.
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Good selection. Gundam 00 could go on that list as well. It was from the same airdate as Code Geass and is another Bandai/Sunrise series with two 25 episode seasons.
Spike and the gang hell yeah LFG que jazz music
If y’all watch Code Geass: RoZé of the Recapture
Hope you watch the movie:
Lelouch of the resurrection before it
tbh, I kinda was sceptical at first about the new Roze announcement but after watching it, it is looking promising so far
Bebop is cool but doesn't really have a "story" if you want something similar to Code Geass try Death Note Instead you will get hooked with episode 1
The poetic irony of Lelouch’s original goal of wanting to live peacefully with Nunnally, and Suzaku wanting to die for his sins, only for them to get their respective goals instead, is a great capstone to both of their character arcs. Even way back in episode 1 Lelouch said, “the only ones who should kill are those prepared to be killed.” My favorite anime to date, so happy that both enjoyed it!
It is poetic irony and the big lie - Suzaku wanted to live with a beautiful women and Leluch wanted to win the world for his ambitions. They did a better world, but it was complicated motivations.
@@ovento7438agreed the masks they wore were the desire to die for their sins and live a peaceful life. The true poetry I see is that had the sword of Akasha succeeded they would have had to face this fact. I believe it’s why both Su and Le even acknowledge right before using geass on god that isn’t nunnuly just an excuse. Basically admitting that if Charles succeeded they would be forced to acknowledge what you said and remove the masks.
On the "Nunally is the only one crying at Lelouch's death", the funny part is that it also mirrors Euphy's death, with Suzaku crying over her death while the Japanese chant for Zero.
Kallen was crying too, but I get the idea
My read on the interaction between Toto and Kallen is that both of them actually fully realized what's happening, but when Toto is about to verbalize it, Kallen corrects him to state the intent of going along with it, so by stating that it's Zero, she's shaping that as the reality.
I agree.
@@unknowndane4754 toto África song is great
"Todo"
It's not even really a read, just a fact, at least where Kallen is concerned. Could maybe make an argument for it being slightly vague for Todo, but Kallen clearly realized what was happening.
You guys were one of the best Code Geass commenters for me. The way you talk about each and every episode, theories and idea and predictions and the reactions you give were all fantastic. I purely starting watching you guys from Jan due to Code Geass reaction and now aboslutely love you guys and def be sticking around.
Also, if you guys or anyone in here doesn't know, Code Geass season 3 is a thing which started literally just 3 weeks back with 3 episodes. Its called Code Geass: Roze of the Recapture. So if you guys are up for it, that'll be a great reaction as well
The roze show is set in the same timeline as the resurrection movie so you’d have to watch that first. And maybe even the akito OVAs considering one character’s outfit but I’m not entirely sure yet.
Ahhh thank you so much for your kind words! Glad to hear you’ll stick around 😊🥹🙏🏻 We will definitely look into reacting to CGR!
@@volumeoneplus again I would very much recommend watching at least the resurrection movie before Roze. You don’t need to watch the recap movies that came before resurrection as the only major difference from the show that’s relevant is one character who died in the show lived in the recap movies. Edit: Which is something I can tell you now if you now so you’re all caught up if you’d like
@@thewerewolff7248 you are talking about shirley, right...?
@@bartolsironic6286 yes
The contrast between Nunnally crying and population hailing Zero it's so... I don't even have words to explain it! 💔💔💔
Nunnally crying gets me every time. I think I'm on the edge every time, but her crying pushes me over it.
@@saltyk9869 stay strong darling! 🙏🏻❤️🩹
I know I'm a month late but just to break your heart even further, it mirrors the death of Euphy where everyone chanted "Zero" while their loved ones, Suzaku and Nunally, hold them and cry in agony. The show has a lot of those mirroring scenes when you compare it from one season to another.
@@ariandelnguyen this is one of the reasons I love this show so much! 🤩
@@Im_somebody_you_wont_remember I know, I didn’t notice it until recently when I rewatched with a friend of mine and she pointed out that the start of season 2 when lelouch’s memories were awakened, it was very similar to season 1 when lelouch’s power awakened. A squad of soldiers ordered to die after cornering lelouch and lelouch stealing a sutherland the same way he stole villeta’s
"I destroy the world, and create it anew" - Lelouch Vi Britannia
I CREATE LIFE! and I destroy it.
@@cklamboyeah sure
Fun facts from the interweb:
Lelouch believed that you had to start a rebellion/work from the outside to achieve peace, while Suzaku thought the opposite-and in the end, both their views were needed to make their dream a reality. Lelouch took Suzaku's philosophy and took over as Emperor, and Suzaku took Lelouch's philosophy and became Zero.
The appearance of Zerozaku has the same music as Zero's debut in R1, when Lelouch uses Geass on Jeremiah in front of a global audience.
At different points in R2, when Lelouch has doubts about continuing, he gets told by Kallen to continue lying to her until the end to free Japan, and by Suzaku to turn his lies into truths and work with him to make things better. And during the Zero Requiem arc he lies to Kallen to free Japan (and to prevent her from suffering with him in his Zero-Approval Gambit), and he works with Suzaku to make all Zero's talk about making a better world actually true. - Drakyndra
The Geass symbol looks like a bird in flight. Folded cranes are used throughout the series as a symbol for a wish. Near the end, Lelouch reflects that Geass is like a wish...
Lelouch and Suzaku both gained power from performing a noble act. Lelouch ended up in the terrorists’ truck because, unlike the other people standing around, talking, and taking pictures of the crash, he went down to see if anyone was hurt. Suzaku refused to shoot his best friend, even under threat of discharge or death, so he was wounded and Lloyd and Cecile found him. This led to them allowing him to pilot the Lancelot.
I'm not sure if this was deliberate, but I've noticed something interesting about the episode references to Lelouch as a demon as well as his tendency to speak of himself this way. Lelouch has a much remarked similarity to Light in Death Note, but of course, Light always refers to himself as God. This really underscores how different the two characters actually are
It always bugged me that in R2 the mechas always explode after receiving fatal damage, something which happened less in R1. But then I realized that the new mecha were built after the conquest of Japan, the worlds largest supply of sakuradite, which was used as a mecha power source. The knightmares were upgraded with more sakuradite, and thus made big explosions.
There's also the audio drama that shows how Clovis originally decided to take that position. He clearly has no inclination towards war and politics, and no desire to involve himself in it, but in the Britannian royal family, if you're not a soldier, you're trash. Cornelia and Schneizel are incredibly rude to him and he just takes it. Then he tells them that he has accepted the position of viceroy of Area 11, and they're shocked and they don't think he can do it. He tells them he wants to do it to make Lelouch's "final resting place" peaceful for him, for the younger brother who never knew how much Clovis cared for him. Euphemia tells Clovis that Lelouch sent her a letter and mentioned making friends with a boy his age in Japan. Clovis says that he thinks he should be gentle to the Elevens in that case, since Lelouch had a friend among them. Both Cornelia and Schneizel tell him that he can't let himself be soft, and that a viceroy should be ruthless.
Holy shesh, how come I never noticed this
Wow, the crane in the geass is a thing i never knew. the Clóvis info changes alot about him
@@JaegerFelipe Other thoughts on Clovis from the people of the internet:
For all the time he's alive, he's basically your typical Smug Snake, incompetent but callous ruler, who perhaps earns a bit of sympathy for his death but is otherwise just someone to showcase the evils of the Britannian Empire and let Lelouch have his Curb-Stomp Battle. Then the rest of his appearance (or rather, when he's referred to) spend their time deconstructing this notion: he clearly loved his family, he was a fairly talented artist, he even treasured all of his visits with Lelouch when they were younger, despite the fact that he always lost their games of chess - not the reaction you'd expect he of the hopeless ego to have. Even his most horrendous action, the demolition of the Shinjuku ghetto, is, if not justified, certainly given an excuse - it becomes abundantly clear over the rest of the show that Clovis really would've gotten in quite a lot of trouble with a lot very powerful, very nasty people if anything with C.C. had come to light. So, whilst the action he took was still monstrous, one can understand his being a tad irrational with fear at the time - indeed, one even realises that this probably him in the worst light possible. All in all, it becomes apparent that for all his many failings and the typical vices of the Social Darwinist Britannian aristocracy, Clovis was actually quite a nice guy. A Jerkass? Yes, by dint of the job.
Interestingly the four kids we see Charles either say he likes (Lelouch and Nunnally) or hint at (the photos of Clovis and Euphemia in C's world) are the ones the most removed from social darwinistic goals. Clovis is the closest but he's a painter and aritst by nature and not a politician, leader, and would probably be happier if he had stayed out of politics. The kids he likes are the ones that are the farthest from his false persona as possible.
I've seen that ending so many times from different reactors. I think Kallen and the rest of the black knights knew that the person in the Zero mask was a different person. I think they knew that this crazy scenario was something the real Zero would think of, the real Zero being Leulouch.
Kallen yes, because she specifically says that it is Zero as she's seen him do the shell game swap multiple times, the rest of the black knights less likely as they never knew that aspect of him.
@@shadowfiresword There is no way Todoh, Ohgi, Rakshata, Xingke etc. aren't smart enough to figure out who this Zero is and that this was planned by Lelouch. The regular Black knight grunts and people like Tamaki probably didn't figure it out unless someone else told them about it for some reason.
@@Jakokokoroko What makes you say that? None of the ones you mentioned have seen lelouch do the zero in one place school boy in another location scheme before. In addition to that, baring todoh and kallen none of them have had any meaningful interactions with suzaku.
Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying they aren't smart by any means, they are especially rakshata, but being smart doesn't help nearly as much as you are portraying against a trick/tactic you haven't encountered or heard about before. I mean hell the entire lot of them were caught off guard when Lelouch pulled the ground out from under them via volcanic eruption in the final battle, despite it being one of his favorite strategems and one they had seen on multiple occasions.
Now are they likely to recognize that the zero in the end isn't the same one they were fighting with for 90% of the series, obviously. But who is in the suit and why this is being played out on the world stage are likely to slip past them. Especially since as far as the world knows Suzaku died in the last battle and has been dead for months.
@@Jakokokoroko Nah, its more like they dont know who is wearing the mask BUT they know its another Lelouch Play. Their reactions speaks for it. Nobody cheered but a concerned reaction upon realization.
Lelouch and Suzaku ended up being that iconic duo at the end
and still as friends
Everyone always says this is one of the best endings. For me personally, this is the best ending. I watched this anime last year, and before that, I knew nothing about it. Also, both Lelouch and Code Geass have been my favorite characters and anime until now.
It legitimately is the best ending. Suzaku paid the price for his actions and for the good of the world
I would say there are other anime that have great endings. I tend to put them all on the same tier in that way. FMA Brotherhood has a really satisfying ending to me as well.
This is what peak looks like. All Lelouch Vi Britannia, the 99th Emperor of the holy Britannian Empire and your only ruler!
One of the best endings ever, I get teary eyed for Nunnally every time.
And yet the story didn't truly end here. Don't forget the OVA that came out after season 2.
It's a movie not ova
@@andrewweldy7508nah for me this is the ending. the movie and ova kinda ruined the seriea
“The only people who should kill are those prepared to be killed”. Lelouch said this at the end of R1 episode 1, right before he used Geass for the first time to kill Britannian soldiers. The exact sequence repeated in R2 episode 1. Now that is what I call foreshadowing.
There's actually a ton. Kallen told Lelouch to "Play your role like you mean it. Keep fooling us until you no longer can." earlier in the season. There're tons of dialog that you can say foreshadowed this ending. Small things people told him, and he took to heart.
bro i was holding my tears until I heard that
And this is the reason this show is my favorite anime. Nothing can top it. I love how she mention Nana touched Lelouch and saw everything that was a big part of how the Code geass R.R theory came around too
Nunnally doesn't see his memories.
She can sense the truth when touching someone's hand, we've seen that happen multiple times during the anime
Even the writers have said in an interview that Nunnally didn't see any memories.
It wouldn't have been possible anyways because Lelouch doesn't have a code, so he couldn't do that
The writers have officially confirmed that Lelouch is dead and never had a code
On the 2009 DVD C.C. herself explicitly explains that Lelouch is dead
The anime's established lore makes it literally impossible for Lelouch to have a code because it was set in stone that if you get the code you lose the geass, and Lelouch never lost his geass
I love orange boys ending. One of his options as punishment after zero freeing suzaku was to work on a orange farm.
thank you for the reaction of this anime, i think its the best reaction and discussion till now in youtube, you deserve more subs and i really enjoyed watching every episode
Thank you so much that means so much to us 🥹💜
It's been a hell of a ride 🫡
The whole episode is so damn amazing and heart-wrenching at times like still the best ending to any anime or manga I can think of or seen. For once and for all, All Hail Lelouch Vi Britannia!!! How so much comes full circle is so awesome and Lelouch's final moments, oh man 😢
Kallen understood what happened right after nunnally did. If you read her poem, she knew lelouch knows that Kallen would follow him to hell so he swerved her
What poem? Where can i read it please
@@triziaione4514 You can find the poem on Kallen's Code Geass Wiki page under the Quotes section.
@@triziaione4514 It can be found on Kallen's Code Geass wiki page under the Quotes section.
@@Anti-CommunistCommunitarian thanks!
She realized it before, I'm pretty sure. She says something like, is this what Lelouch and Suzaku had to do, or something as soon as zero appeared.
"The only one who can shoot are those who are prepared to be shot" This hits so hard in the ending man... So beautiful
I destroyed the world and created a new......
Johnny Yong Bosch performance was insane.
lelouch's emperor of the world speech still gives me goosebumps
Someone put together an edit of just that speech years ago. Occasionally it gets recommended to me and it still gets me.
Code Geass is one page of my youth.
Thank you for watching :)
its been a nice ride watching with you guys!
Man, I always cry to this ending. It just gets me no matter how many times I have watched it (which is a LOT lol).
you are not alone :D
This is one of my favorite series. Lelouch is such a good protagonist. The ending pretty much sets the bar for good endings. And there are so many twists and turns in the story, and it feels like that status quo changes every few episodes. An absolutely legendary series.
Code Geass landed it's ending. Perfectly. So many great anime couldn't do this.
and that was Code Geass, still one of my all time favorite anime, is it perfect? no, not at all but its such a wonderful story that i love it all the same, thank you for watching it all the way to the end, and im glad you enjoyed it as much as you did
Discovered your playlist through a casual search a week ago. Such a wonderful journey watching alongside you! Really appreciate your in-depth discussions and observant style.
I'm from China and watched both seasons back in 2009 when I was still a teenage boy. That lelouch's ending left me in shock. In the CN community, fans are divided over the ending: some believe in the Cart-driver theory, while others believe in the Dead-to-the-ash theory. I used to be a Cart-driver believer because of how much I love the main character. However, looking back now, I believe that his death elevates the entire series, making Code Geass a timeless masterpiece and classic.
You guys are really great reactors. I'm glad you enjoyed CG its one of my favorite anime.
Some comments are talking about the "special" ending with Lelouch smirking at the end after CC said "Right Lelouch". Its a fake edit that has been debunked 10 years ago. You could just try to find it on YT. Its a fake edit, the drawing lines are pixelated, the broadcasting station TBS logo wasn't even shown in that video. No one in the Japanese fandom ever discussed that ending at all
It's kinda ironic that the showrunners unintenionally came up with such a fascinating concept of Schrödinger's Lelouch and then scrapped it in favor of the stupidest and cheapest cash grab imaginable. The industry could definitely use better writers, because everyone tends to relly on adapting material rather than creating something like Code Geass, which could never exist in manga or any other medium.
The video was real and ^this comment^ is just a fake comment you can tell because it is missing punctuation as well as missing TBS logo
*TBS*
When that "special ending" was first "leaked," it sent all of us into a tizzy of "is this real?!?" takes me back lol
Wow i never considered the Kallen toast meta moment. Great commentary!!!!
Yesss you witnessed the BEST ending in anime
I think that one of the reasons this ending works so well and is so beloved all these years later is that Lelouch started as a sympathetic character who did good things for bad and selfish reasons but ended up as a character that had a genuine change of heart that did bad things for good reasons.
He gave hope to an oppressed people while only wanting to use them for his own gains but ended up actually helping them in the end
Ive seen this like 20 timee why am i still crying???
i feel exactly the same, every sngle time i watch this ending, but the japanese dub hits way harder at the end imo
This is what makes Code Geass so so memorable, it's far from a flawless series but with so many enemy struggling with finding a good ending, this final episode is just perfect
It has been debunked officially by the Code Geass director that Nunally didnt see any vision when she touched Lelouch's hands. She just realized that he wasn't lying, and that all this was part of the plan. It was in Mook Media 2009 interview. During the screening of the last recap movie, the director also clarified that immortal code doesn't need the code receiver to die first before it could be activated. When Charles fell down after getting shot by Lelouch in R2 ep15, he was already immortal and only trolling his son.
The dub is great but Nunnally's cries in the sub at tge end hit way more hard i couldn't stop crying
Thankyou for your journey!
It was very fun watching the reaction & the discussion. Actually there's a picture drama about the happy ending time skip you mentioned, it's called "Kiseki no Birthday"
Memorize *THIS!* Thank you guys so much for your amazing reactions it was a lot of fun rewatching with you
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this show is like an inverted saturday morning cartoon. Zero has cobra commander from GI Joe energy or like shedder from teenage mutant ninja turtles. Suzaku is the “good guy” main character always showing up at the last minute and foiling the bad guys plans. That’s why zero always looks evil in promos and stuff his character is literally villain coded
If they ever make a Netflix live action it’d be funny if they showed it from suzakus perspective and didn’t reveal zero’s identity until suzaku finds out
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All Hail Lelouch♠♠♠
Here is my take, why I think the ending could be realistic:
At the start of the show, we had Britannia as a super power, dominating a huge portion of the world, we had china which could be a super power, but had a lot of intern problems like corruption, the EU which isn't a super power and a lot of lose countries, with nearly no relevance at that time.
After the whole princess of China thing, China broke down in a civil war.
After Lelouch destroyed the order of geass and V.V. died, he created the UFN (United Federation of Nations).
Which contained most nations of the world (including parts of china, but not all of it), one rule of the UFN was, that no nation can have it's own army, instead they have the Black Knights as an contract force, which most likely contains the soliders of the former armys of the member nations.
So we technically we had two super powers with the UFN and Britania at that point, with Lelouch as Emporer of Britania declaring war onto the UFN.
Lelouch won that war, but we can asume that a lot of soliders lost their lives and tons of war materials got destroyed. And Schizel got ordert to follow Zero.
After that we got a 2 month time skip, in which Lelouch played the evil dictator, but most likely he also conquered the remining Nations and disarmed them, as well as dismantled a lot of his military power, that was not needed to keep control. (At least I would do that in his position at that point.)
After Lelouch died we got Zero (Suzaku) as Leader of the Black Knights, also the Core Members of the Black Knights, which knew that Lelouch was Zero, as well as Lelouchs inner circle, do know that Suzaku is now Zero. Since either they knew enough to piece it together or they knew of the Plan since Lelouch told them.
What happend next is most likely that they rebuild the UFN with Britania as a Member this time, since Nunally is most likely temporary leader of Britania. And I suspect she would make the deal to reduce Britanias Voting Power in the UFN.
They most likely would renew the System that no member nation is allowed to have an army and the Black Knights will be the Peachkeepers again and will be lead by Suzaku for a really long time, since it is unlikely he will die in an unnatural way before his time has come.
The UFN with Britania should be in control of over 90-95% of the World and the Black Knights should not be a small force. So peace should be gurenteed for a long time.
Sure there are a lot of internal problems everywhere and Kallen stated it herself, that there a still a lot of problems.
Also they did not solve world hunger or such things, it was stated that the energy that was focused on wars, is not directed at things like solving world hunger.
I personally would say we got a stable situation for at least 50 years and regarding what they achieved in these 50 years, there is a good chance that it will hold way longer.
Most likely after Suzaku stops being the leader of the Black Knights, they will go for a council instead of an single leader, since it splits the power to a bigger number of people.
How long it will hold after Suzaku is gone, depends on the question how likely it is that the democratic leadership will get corrupt.
From what I've seen around the world, the less internal crisis a country has, the more unlikely it is that the leadership will get corrupt. Since people would Vote against people that have been found to be corrupt, the more internal crisis a coutry has the more the votes change to people that tell you that they will solve the problem and most likely they are people that seem to be succsessful in live, regardless of how they got there. So the chance increases for corrupt people to get power.
So it really depends on how the next 50 years develop, while the OG people that know or could guess the plan, who want to keep peace, are in positions of power.
Earlier when Lelouch first became Emperor he dismantled the nobility and then, stripped and divided their assets. Before the UFN meeting we see the leadership of the Black Knights briefly discussing the positive changes he’d made. In the following two months post defeating Schnizel it’s not hard to believe that his enslaved operatives, working as officials and leaders, wouldn’t have been given orders to target corruption and build in safeguards in the systems they worked in as well.
The world, after WWII, was very similar to the end of CG. United Nations to mediate disputes. Most of the world being reduced in military might from the war. Us all being united against Germany and Japan (and to a lesser extent Italy)
And the "perpetual peace" theorists invisioned was over in less than a year as Ruasia and the US began becoming adversarial and Russia began taking advantage of the power vacuum
We know the Zero Requiem will fail because we saw this sort of thing fail in the real world. Zero just "reset" the world and gave us a chance to restart things/do it better the second time around
You know, the biggest problem with the end that even with all being said and done - the death of Lelouch leaves a massive power vacuum, regardless of his intentions and plans. Uniting against common enemy is known thing for humans, but such alliances don't hold for long before people start fighting over resources and land and their cultures again and again. The logistics of maintaining peace all over the world for a single organisation like Black Knights is an unbearable task, especially since they ought to wait direct orders of UFN Council to proceed.
@@mahpell7173 I don't think the Black Knights were a sole military force at that point. From the little we see of in the Epilogue Nunnally was meeting with the UFN. Given the UFN was an alliance made up of many nations like the EU there was far less of a power vacuum. You're right in regards to Britania though, but with Schniezel, Cornelia and Suzaku there I think there'd be a lot of checks in place.
Still imo, Britania is too big for just Nunnally to rule even with the aspects I mentioned. I think it's more likely that she'd give into demands of independence from parts of the Empire sooner than she'd maintain power while discontent grows to violent resistance. That violence wouldn't survive Lelouch's checks however.
The biggest aspect in all of this is how long with the symbol of the demon Emperor and Zero be able to effect culture in such a way where leadership is heavily scrutinized? Eventually things will fall apart but if humanity can always point back to a lesson such as the Demon Emperors rise to power, than that can be a mitigating aspect on the oppression of people which might curb violence to some extent. I don't think we as people could get any more than that when it comes to everlasting peace outside of some sort of divine intervention of overwhelming oppression. So in the end, I think you’re right.
@@TheOriginalInferno Agreed. Also, we have an example of alt-verse continuation, where we have independent countries with massive military power. The Geass is also a very big variable, since hell knows how many Users are out there, an how dangerous their powers are. And since in this timeline Lelouch is supposed to be dead completely, there is hardly a worthy opponent for someone with a Geass like Shamna.
You two should watch Gundam 00. It's another series made Sunrise and it was aired during the same time as Code Geass. Both had very satisfying moments and 00 has a good premise like Code Geass did.
I LOVE 00. Great entry in the series and something that you can watch as an entry into what Gundam is.
I'm glad I was not the only one who thought that. Similar premises with different ways of achieving the same goal of peace. I would say 00's way is like a fusion of Lelouch and Charles plans.
ALL HAIL LELOUCH!!!
Great reaction! Code Geass is legendary! Is on my top 10 anime list! Keep it up! See ya! R2
*Thank you guys for reacting to Code Geass ❤️ i love that you enjoyed it so much ❤️, i loved your reaction to nunnaly crying aswell, it was really touching that you guys shed tears ❤️ i love it ❤️ this reaction is so perfect ❤️*
best anime ending ever. especially the japanese version. so many emotions
Its astonishing how much had to be in place for the Zero Requiem to work.
Two key things:
He had to separate Lelouch from Zero in the eyes of the Black Knights
He had to make himself and only himself the enemy of LITERALLY everyone
The first, he managed by confronting them in person, with Xingke finally refering to him as Lelouch being the enemy of the world instead of Zero. For Schneitzel, Zero and Lelouch were never separate, since he didnt have a connection with either of them beyond adversary. This was important for the geass command to work. Also important that Schneitzel could not see Zero kill Lelouch, as it would have fucked with his command. Like this, Zero was kept being a symbol for justice.
Secondly, making himself the sole enemy, he had to make a victim of
- Suzaku: dead
- Lloyd and co.: switched sides at last minute
- his army: with the Black Knights knowing about Geass, they knew they were not willing. Also the wording "be my slaves" is interesting since it might also hold the resentment that comes from being a slave, hence they also cheer at the end.
- Britannia as a whole- abolishing the aristocracy, the royal family and changing the chant to "All hail Lelouch" works to separate him as a ruler from his people, putting Britannia the country on the same level as any other country he overtook.
- Jeremiah was left to destroy all unnecessary remaining Geasses and I guess to be exiled to an orange farm
It helps that those deciding the fate of the world going forwards were in on it, forcing them to be better for all the sacrifices to be worth it.
He also made sure there is a counter to the deadliest weapon in the world, so there is no arms race and blew up the biggest Sakuradite mine in the world.
The two issues I found were:
If anyone supported tyrant Lelouch and his policies without being Geassed because they were some kinda fanatics. There is always someone like that, in such a big population...
If any conspiracy theorist questions why he was killed with the same sword he himself was waving around at the deciding battle.
Jeremiah be like: "Ima dip" 😬😬
I mean as for your last sentence there is 1 explanation: the explanation for the sword could be claimed to be a replica of said sword to make being killed by it ironic...and it's not like that'd be the first time it's been done in the series, he did the same thing with Clovis's personal vehicle in season 1 with turning a trash heap into something that looked like Clovis's car on the outside. Of course they can be retroactive reports that it was stolen as well if anyone investigated it.
The point above that one though is more or less why the Roze anime exists...granted not sure I'd say they were fantatics of Lelouch but just the Britannian empire in general that Lelouch wasn't able to get with his Geass/the Black Knights and United Nations failed to take care of after his 'death' in the alternate universe (who knows what's going on in OG universe or if they'll ever go back to it with a new series...probably won't though as most fans don't want it marred (hell they hated the changes in the R movies, the sequel movie to those, and now the Roze series (granted as of the current episode I'd say Roze is at least decent...nowhere as good as OG Code Geass but probably better than everything besides maybe Akito)).
Just my take:
Kallen understood the whole thing once Suzaku started the whole zigzag dodging. and when that happen, she's crying while saying it's Zero (Because Toudou was about to say is that Suzaku, he's his former boss and recognized his abilities.)
She did that because she knows if she doesn't, the whole plan of Lelouch and Suzaku's sacrifice will be wasted. Zero have to be Zero and not Suzaku. At this point, Zero is now just a symbol.
Thanks for doing Code Geass y’all were fantastic
I loved watching it again alongside you guys ❤ I have enjoyed Eva, Tengen and now Geass with the best duo on the platform 🥳
Tho I feel sad. Don’t know why, but I connected with Geass again and it hurts to see it end 😞
This is in my opinion the best ending I’ve seen in anime (potentially anything I’ve watched anime or not) the three characters who must give up the one thing they want most are also the 3 characters who directly used the FLEIJA, Suzaku who wants nothing more then to die as punishment for the sin of killing his father must live on, Lelouch who wants nothing more then to live in a world where he and his sister can live peacefully will die without getting to see that world and Nunnally who wants nothing more then to live with her brother in happiness will have to live without him
The perfect way to end what is a brilliant show
Madder Sky always makes me tear up. My all-time favorite anime for 16 years.
"and for those that comitted the great sin of killing their own father they received the harshest punishment:
lelouch who wanted to create world where he could peacefully live with his little sister had to die to make that world a reality
suzaku who wanted to attone for his sin by dying to save others had to live to keep this world a reality"
I love watching both of you! ❤
it is realistic kalin said we still have problems but the energy is not going to war
Very deep review guys nice one
Thank you guys for reacting to one of the top Anime-only (there was no manga, LN, or WN, just a dream and Cheese-kun). Absolutely love watching you guys watch with a fresh/open mind about how this world is presenting its problems and everyone's solution to solving it.
About the movies/extra...Akito the exile is a great few episode OVA that takes place between the seasons.
The movies on the other hand are a "recap", but it is more of a build up to the Re'surrection movie. Not going to explain anymore, but if you do decide to watch them, should be okay to watch the first 2 on your own as it would help understand whats different for the 3rd.
If you watch the movie, you can react to a new/ongoing show. The first 3 films are a separate, but 90% identical recap universe. The only changes are derived from trying to trim the story. But movie 4, Lelouch of the Resurrection, takes place after the Zero Requiem AND its end credit scene sets up a new series : Roze of the Recapture - which is airing its dub right now! Only 2 eps in.
You can jump right from the end of R2 to Lelouch of the Resurrection if you can set aside/acknowledge Shirley being alive due to her stories being cut.
i wish the movie and the new anime series happened after several decades
@@LTDLetsPlays 7 yrs isnt bad though. Everyone expected world peace after we unified against the Nazi's and Japanese as a common enemy. When we set up the UN to settle things peacefully. It only took a few yrs for our sh!t to fall apart lol
Speaking of head cannon, there is a theory out there that Lelouch survives the requiem by taking on C's code making him immortal. This way he can watch over the world that his sister is living in and making sure it doesn't go back down the path of violence, all sparked by the line at the end with C2 in the cart saying 'Right lelouch.' But it is also possible that he is just living in her memory palace to, so make of it what you will.
Makes more sense if he was alive. Since he promised to fulfill his contract with CC to make her mortal.
That's not just headcanon, it was supposed to be canon, but then they moved that continuation to an alternate timeline and it's up to the viewers wether the ressurected lelouch is recap lelouch or if it's this lelouch in the recap lelouch's body (something something c's world being destroyed when Charles died so no Lelouch in the c's world somthing). I perfer the latter as I really like the end of ressurection for CC's sake, but this being the final ending is great.
PLEASE watch Lelouch of the Re;surrection movie. It does follow the recap movies timeline, which basically an alternate take on the original story that changes a few minor things other than 1 change, which is Shirley doesn't die. Thats the only important change you have to know before watching Re;surrection, otherwise the main events that happen are the same.
It provides a nice end to all the characters especially C.C. Love your reactions!❤
Truly an amazing power
Man, I hope you guys one day do the Code geass Akito the exiled movies or the Code Geass Lelouch of the Re;surrection
They all connect to this anime
One of the best reaction channels out there. Thank you guys for watching this.
Thank you so much 😭💜
Will I ever NOT cry at this???
No.
why man, my whole room is soaking wet
All Hail, Lelouch!
BTW, Suzaku and Karen is fighting in front ofDamocles' Area 11... LOL
Are you guys gonna watch the akito OVAs, the sequel movie and the new sequel show Roze of the recapture?
you should see the original jp ending
PLEASE watch Lelouch of the Re;surrection movie. It does follow the recap movies timeline, which is basically an alternate take on the original story that changes a few minor things other than 1 change, which is Shirley doesn't die. Thats the only important change you have to know before watching Re;surrection, otherwise the main events that happen are the same. It provides a nice end to all the characters especially C.C.
Also love your reactions, can't wait for Cowboy Bebop!❤
u guys deserve more ur reactions n discussions are really good!!
Thank you so much! 😭🥹💜
Code Geass is in my top 5 of anime and one that i can say for 💯 is a masterpiece and if they remastered it wiith either better masterpiece animation, sound quality, the story, and characters development for every character there. Which is why as a veteran in the nerd community on almost all category of nerdism. And this here outside of OP, OPM, Demon Slayer, JJK, Trigun, Naruto, AOT, Yugioh, Pokemon, Death Note, and a few others etc. Thats Is 💯 % a Masterpiece shoot i got a top 10 and top 20 list because there are some great anime nd manga/manwha i wanna bring to ppl attention
Of I could given this anime above a 10 I would, it deserves a 20/10 but 10/10 and S tier and a Masterpiece in the Trash to Masterpiece list. But we'll see.❤🎉😂❤is
As everyone claims, this is a perfect ending, so it's better not to watch the rest of Code Geass, or if you do, take it as a fanfiction.
are you going to watch the movie?
There's some cool double meanings to the ending when you factor in Lelouch's promise to fulfill C.C. and Nunally being able to see Lelouch's past when she touched him. Certified classic
Important note: The movies and such that came after are not canon. The creator said himself those are AU, but Lelouch's death at the end of the series is the canon end to his story
we all cried lol!
Lelouch didn't make like total world peace, what he made is symbolicly connected to "the great peace" which is a term coined after ww2.
This is enforced by the last movie of the alternate timeline (Ressurection) where a country Zhinistan or what it's called was thriving of war since their main source of income was weapon and explosives productions. So conflicts still reign on in the Code Geass universe..
My view is that it's symbolic to chess, where the white side has the advantage and is the aggressor, and Britannia was the white side for along time but Lelouch flipped the board so now the biggest countries powers focus on democracy and are members of the united states of federations and the insurgents are remnants of the warmongers who now takes the black, defensive side.
It's hard to put in words because the chess symbolism in this series are very narrative focused, even to the point of breaking chess rules in favor of foreshadowing major events in the show.
Check out "how lelouch led with the king" by Kato for a great rundown on the chess symbolism in this show.
The irony is that lelouch put on the zero costume to save susaku from execution and susaku put on the costume to execute leleouch
Oh no, I was hoping to see them wear their C.C. and Lelouch cosplays again
Still, it was very nice to see his reaction throughout the first and second seasons
Next time please watch Lelouch of Re;surrection
And maybe Akito The Exiled from Code Geass too
Lelouch of resurrection is alternate timeline from the movie, it's not from the series
@@Platinumsnake2024 it still a good movie to watch if you go into the movie knowing it an alternate timeline
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I know, but it's always good to see something from Code Geass, even if it's an alternate universe
@@keiichisenpai6109 they should watch the movies prequel first otherwise it doesn't make sense, IIRC shirley was alive in the movie
@@rezero_Subaru nobody said it was bad anyway, but It wouldn't make sense for them to react to that movie without watching the prequel movies first, IIRC Shirley was alive in the movie
Wha- where’s y’all’s cosplay?? D’aww
Both Kallen and Tohdoh recognize Suzaku then she recovered and continued the lie calling him Zero.
9:55 The best speech I've ever heard in an anime! 😋
❤❤ so glad you guys got to experience this ending .. awesome breakdown
Thanks man 😊💜
So without spoiling it……there is a lore reason for why Nunally can see Lelouchs memories. She had no powers but it isn’t the first time we’ve seen individuals pass on memories.
Also the recap movies change a few small things, in particular Shirley doesn’t die. sorry for that spoiler but it didn’t sound like you planned to watch it and her inclusion in the next movie would not have made sense without you knowing that.
Some other commenter I came across really put Lelouches strategy into perspective. He purposely mind controlled all his wouldbe rivals for the throne and then purposely sacrifices them in the last battle by sending them into the Freya warheads path. He also destroys MT Fuji which was part of the reason the war started over liquid sakuradite. Which means wagering wars with nightmare frame became ridiculously expensive.
Nunnally doesn't see his memories.
She can sense the truth when touching someone's hand, we've seen that happen multiple times during the anime
Even the writers have said in an interview that Nunnally didn't see any memories.
It wouldn't have been possible anyways because Lelouch doesn't have a code, so he couldn't do that
Fuck everybody who dares to say Itachi makes a bigger sacrifice tham Lelouch.
My favorite part is always when Lelouch's friends and sister realize what's going on. When they realize his real plan. That's when they, themselves, break free of the Geass that their bonds with him were fabricated. Brings the tears every time.
never in my life i cried at an ending
I disagree on "the Word Is not that Easy" speach, if we think back to WWII was a such devastating war that when Hitler died no One in Europe would more war Just cooperate, sure It was the all Cold war in America, Vietnam etc but in Europe we didnt see a war since then, so Is realistic that after a great conflict Nation Just Sais "stop the war work on how live in peace togheter"
Monster next !
o7 Lelouch
ALL HAIL LELOUCH
This ending hits still ..now you should switch it up and watch some more adventure type..like sword art online , promised Neverland, classroom of the elite, and seraph of the end
Now watch code geass Lelouch of the resurrection movie
Still stands as one of the solid series that offers every genre of anime and a powerful story with badass MC. I've been watching this series for 7times now and still not getting tired of it.
This was a great conversation you guys really understood the material here so bravo. A few notes based on your conversation.
- Nunnally can read hearts via touch. Only she and Suzaku have "superhuman" level traits in the series.
- There is peace becauseLelouch chose all world leaders: Lelouch created the UFN, dismantled nobility and made Nunnally Empress of Britannia, Suzaku/Zero protects her like Lelouch always as a Knight of justice, and Schneizel is a brilliant statesman hypnotized to serve "Zero" not Lelouch. All of Emperor Lelouch's staff was pardoned because they were forced and betrayed him at the end.
- Tohdoh trained Suzaku he knows him anywhere. As you mentioned Kallen realized and bought into Lelouch's miracle "That is Zero."
- That float was specifically designed so that Lelouch could be with Nunnally at the end.
- Suzaku wants to die, but to Lelouch the "Live" command is a gift for his friend.
- Nunnally and Euphy are the only 2 people who were able to resist Lelouch's Geass.
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