I upgraded from a GH5 to a GH6 (I still have my GH5) and from my tests I am very impressed with the GH6. The colors look better and skin tones don't have the reddish tint the GH5 had. The detail in 4K also better. The continuous AF in video my tests has improved a lot, especially with single point focus. I use Olympus lenses and I didn't see any pulsing in the background and 99% of the time it kept the subject in focus, except twice in my tests when it didn't focus on the subject until I pressed the AF button and it stayed focused after that, even in low light. I don't use AF in video most of the time so it doesn't bother me. One thing that slightly concerned me initially was the potential fan noise in video as it can't be switched off, only set to slow in all modes except 5.7 and 5.8K which medium is the lowest setting's I use a Sennheiser ME66 microphone to capture background audio and its very sensitive but by pointing it slightly upwards, I haven't heard the fan on the audio recordings I made when I was shooting in 4K. I tried the ProRes 5.7K and compared it to Long GOP and what I noticed was that not only did ProRes take up a lot more space (I think it was between 10-20 minutes filled up a 128GB card depending if you are using 422 or 422 HQ) but it seemed to have more contrast and the colors were ever so slightly different compared to Long GOP, but not by much. I use my GH6 with dynamic range boost ON all the time for video (except if I am using framerates that don't work with it on) and I really like the extra dynamic range and shooting V-Log a ISO 2000. I use two varibale NDs when shooting video, NiSi 1.5-5 and 5-9 as you defiantly need to use NDs with dynamic range boost ON. I use variable NDs over fixed NDs so I can dial in my exposure to how I want it. I rarely had to go over ISO 2000 except in low light and when properly exposed, the noise in the shadows seemed comparable to the GH5 at ISO 400 when using V-Log L sometimes, maybe a bit better in brighter light or normal daylight conditions. After doing noise reduction in editing, the video quality looks great and a definite step up over the GH5.
@@michaelkupfer3723 I haven't really tried it except once. I found my PC was a bit slow to edit the 5.7K videos either ProRes or H.265. I just upgraded to a faster PC recently. I mainly shoot 4K All-I on my GH6 and for some reason I haven't been able to get answers to, in the latest GH6 firmware 2.0, they added ProRes and RAW output for every resolution except UHD. However, when I edited a 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 All-I video in Premiere Pro and exported it as a ProRes file and imported the ProRes file, it did play back a little smoother.
It can be hard to tell the difference between the 400 Mbps and the 150 Mbps 4k modes. But if you look closely and you really pixel peep, you'll see that 400 Mbps has a floating airplane that the 150 Mbps mode is simply too low-res to display
At 150Mbps the camera can use the quantum processor to computationally remove the airplane in realtime. This is a little known feature called selective subject enhancement and uses advanced temporal manipulation combined with machine learning. It isn't in the manual, but if you check the byte code of the firmware it is clearly referenced.
@@christobella That is why you almost never see other airplanes in photos taken out of airplane windows. This despite airplanes normally travelling in flocks for safety.
I like the concision/brevity of the video, but it might have come at too high a cost in terms of the actual information available and comparisons made between the various settings/modes. To start, I found the stabilization comparisons puzzling. Having the completely un-stabilized control is nice, but it's not exactly realistic (who would be interested in the hand-held performance without any IBIS -- we all know it will look bad); meanwhile, not having a baseline IBIS-only (i.e. no e-stabilization and no lens-based OIS, just in-camera IBIS) makes little sense to me, as Panasonic makes two un-stabilized F1.7 zooms that plenty of people will use with IBIS-only if/when they don't want to incur the minor crop associated with the electronic stabilization. Similarly, why not have a clip with all forms of stabilization enabled (electronic, OIS, and IBIS)? Likewise, why show the log output graded only with the Panasonic LUT? I think it's useful to show that as a baseline of sorts, but the whole point of the DR boost option is the wider latitude, and after "grading" with the Panasonic LUT, the two clips look nigh-on identical (and also a bit under-exposed, but maybe that's just me). Showing both clips manually adjusted and pushed to the limit of clipping at either end would seem a better test/comparison when trying to determine if that features is actually worthwhile.
Hey! Great vid. I bought the GH6 and have been loving it. It is MISSING a feature I use a lot that is in the GH5 and S5 - 4k Live Cropping. Its a great way to capture B-Roll as a creator. Can you guys use your camera clout and ask Lumix to put it back in firmware? :)
Still haven't seen this camera capure sharp footage. It's so soft compared to Fuji 4K. Is everyone using lenses made of porridge or is it the camera's fault? I really want to justify buying this thing but its 6K looks worse than an X-T4's 6K downsampled to 4K.
Just to add that specs mean nothing. On paper, R5 is supposed to do 8 stops. But in practice the Panasonic is leagues better than the R5, at least in my experience.
Great video. Was on the fence for this one. Decided to go with a ZCAM M4 instead. A very different camera, of course, but with a cinematic look. I feel the GH6/5 line delivers images that look to "video". It's just not cinematic, but good for vlogging and basic RUclips work.
The GH5 really disappointed me when shooting video of moving subjects like birds flying or planes landing. As soon is a have to follow/pan the subject, even very slow following, a lot of jitter and judder occurs in the recordings. For me, as a wildlife videographer, it made the GH5 practically completely unusable. Do you know if this serious jitter problem is solved on the GH6? Did you do a jitter test?
@@PAULSWorld131 Oh so that's even better. I don't remember - I sold the GH5 a year ago for the S5. 60fps will provide smooth panning shots without the jaggedness.
Assuming you’re shooting in a regular picture profile, ISO 100 is truly native with ISO 50 as an extended option. In V-Log, native ISO is now 250 rather than 400.
In photo modes there isn't an native ISO according to Sean on one of the Lumix Live streams as he said the dynamic range boost feature is automatic and can't be set to ON or OFF like it is for video. I don't quite know how it works but sometimes when shooting photos in Natural profile, the lowest ISO I got the best dynamic range was at ISO 800 and a couple of times it worked better at ISO 500 and its not the same as the GH5/GH5 II or G9 which from my tests seem better suited for photography than the GH6 despite the better colors on the GH6. Seems to me in my tests it may depend on the lighting in the area you are shooting in that can effect when the dynamic range boost is on or off but I have no idea as Panasonic won't say. For video the native ISO for V-Log is 250 when dynamic range boost is off and 2000 when on. (ISO wen on is 800 for other picture profiles) That may seem high but I always leave it on for best dynamic range as I have noticed when properly exposed the shadow noise is comparable to the GH5 with V-Log L ISO 400 (or slightly better in some cases) and after applying noise reduction in editing the footage is quite impressive and better with more detail than on the GH5 when shooting 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 ALL-I. When dynamic range boost is on, you have to use an ND filter. I use two NiSi variable NDs a 1.5-5 and a 5-9 stop and they work great with no X when fully stopped down.
@@DynamixWarePro Wow, thank you for such a detailed insight! Have you by any chance used GH5 II and could you maybe comment on its preamps? I have searched on and on, and I can't find any information as to whether the noise floor is better on the GH5 II compared to GH5. Your opinion on the GH6 preamps would also be appreciated!
*I don't understand why you have no evaluation clips shot in 5.7K or Open Gate 5.8K ? Why wouldn't you want to show tests using the maximum possible resolution this new GH6 sensor has to offer ???????? 💁💁💁💁😳😳😳😳😳👀👀👀👀👀*
Ahh yes, Seattle...where V-Log is rarely necessary because it's usually cloudy. High dynamic range? What's that for? Everything we shoot has about three stops of DR to capture!
He's editing Saturday's episode. These sample clips will be coming in addition to Chris and Jordan's episodes, to provide downloadable samples for you to do your own analysis, alongside the DPRTV episodes.
I upgraded from a GH5 to a GH6 (I still have my GH5) and from my tests I am very impressed with the GH6. The colors look better and skin tones don't have the reddish tint the GH5 had. The detail in 4K also better. The continuous AF in video my tests has improved a lot, especially with single point focus. I use Olympus lenses and I didn't see any pulsing in the background and 99% of the time it kept the subject in focus, except twice in my tests when it didn't focus on the subject until I pressed the AF button and it stayed focused after that, even in low light. I don't use AF in video most of the time so it doesn't bother me.
One thing that slightly concerned me initially was the potential fan noise in video as it can't be switched off, only set to slow in all modes except 5.7 and 5.8K which medium is the lowest setting's I use a Sennheiser ME66 microphone to capture background audio and its very sensitive but by pointing it slightly upwards, I haven't heard the fan on the audio recordings I made when I was shooting in 4K.
I tried the ProRes 5.7K and compared it to Long GOP and what I noticed was that not only did ProRes take up a lot more space (I think it was between 10-20 minutes filled up a 128GB card depending if you are using 422 or 422 HQ) but it seemed to have more contrast and the colors were ever so slightly different compared to Long GOP, but not by much.
I use my GH6 with dynamic range boost ON all the time for video (except if I am using framerates that don't work with it on) and I really like the extra dynamic range and shooting V-Log a ISO 2000. I use two varibale NDs when shooting video, NiSi 1.5-5 and 5-9 as you defiantly need to use NDs with dynamic range boost ON. I use variable NDs over fixed NDs so I can dial in my exposure to how I want it.
I rarely had to go over ISO 2000 except in low light and when properly exposed, the noise in the shadows seemed comparable to the GH5 at ISO 400 when using V-Log L sometimes, maybe a bit better in brighter light or normal daylight conditions. After doing noise reduction in editing, the video quality looks great and a definite step up over the GH5.
Have you noticed that your PC had an easier time with ProRes as opposed to LongGop?
@@michaelkupfer3723 I haven't really tried it except once. I found my PC was a bit slow to edit the 5.7K videos either ProRes or H.265. I just upgraded to a faster PC recently. I mainly shoot 4K All-I on my GH6 and for some reason I haven't been able to get answers to, in the latest GH6 firmware 2.0, they added ProRes and RAW output for every resolution except UHD.
However, when I edited a 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 All-I video in Premiere Pro and exported it as a ProRes file and imported the ProRes file, it did play back a little smoother.
It can be hard to tell the difference between the 400 Mbps and the 150 Mbps 4k modes. But if you look closely and you really pixel peep, you'll see that 400 Mbps has a floating airplane that the 150 Mbps mode is simply too low-res to display
Ha ha! I actually went back to check!
fully agree
At 150Mbps the camera can use the quantum processor to computationally remove the airplane in realtime. This is a little known feature called selective subject enhancement and uses advanced temporal manipulation combined with machine learning. It isn't in the manual, but if you check the byte code of the firmware it is clearly referenced.
@@sebastianw9187 this feature is long overdue in mirrorless cameras. Mobile phones have had an 'Airplane Mode' for many years now.
@@christobella That is why you almost never see other airplanes in photos taken out of airplane windows. This despite airplanes normally travelling in flocks for safety.
0:25 "Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture"
"They're the same picture"
I know my expectations might be misplaced, but I would have appreciated some detailed side-by-side comparisons.
And maybe some commentary?
I agree. Even at under 4 minutes, this video was pointless.
@@chucknorris8704 They gave you the info to make your own informed decision. I think you missed the point.
Love this style off video. Straight to the point and Mykim has a really nice voice/pronounciation for this.
Hello the links to donwload dont work
Short, informative. ME LIKE!
Please put the images you want the viewer compare in the same frame. it's hard to compare if you first show one and then the other.
I like the concision/brevity of the video, but it might have come at too high a cost in terms of the actual information available and comparisons made between the various settings/modes. To start, I found the stabilization comparisons puzzling. Having the completely un-stabilized control is nice, but it's not exactly realistic (who would be interested in the hand-held performance without any IBIS -- we all know it will look bad); meanwhile, not having a baseline IBIS-only (i.e. no e-stabilization and no lens-based OIS, just in-camera IBIS) makes little sense to me, as Panasonic makes two un-stabilized F1.7 zooms that plenty of people will use with IBIS-only if/when they don't want to incur the minor crop associated with the electronic stabilization. Similarly, why not have a clip with all forms of stabilization enabled (electronic, OIS, and IBIS)?
Likewise, why show the log output graded only with the Panasonic LUT? I think it's useful to show that as a baseline of sorts, but the whole point of the DR boost option is the wider latitude, and after "grading" with the Panasonic LUT, the two clips look nigh-on identical (and also a bit under-exposed, but maybe that's just me). Showing both clips manually adjusted and pushed to the limit of clipping at either end would seem a better test/comparison when trying to determine if that features is actually worthwhile.
seconded.
Enjoyed the comparison - thanks for the GH6 coverage.
How are we suppose to see the difference if all goes through youtube compression algo?
By downloading the clips
Hey! Great vid. I bought the GH6 and have been loving it. It is MISSING a feature I use a lot that is in the GH5 and S5 - 4k Live Cropping. Its a great way to capture B-Roll as a creator. Can you guys use your camera clout and ask Lumix to put it back in firmware? :)
You can film in 5.7k or the full 5.8k (4:3) and crop in post.
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch well aware of that but as someone that has banged out over 1100 videos for RUclips the marginal gains of doing it in camera add up.
Great video comparing this criterias
Nice presentation
Could you post some 240 fps and 300 fps shots for download please?
Still haven't seen this camera capure sharp footage. It's so soft compared to Fuji 4K. Is everyone using lenses made of porridge or is it the camera's fault? I really want to justify buying this thing but its 6K looks worse than an X-T4's 6K downsampled to 4K.
Who makes the best handheld stabalization mirrorless cameras?
Just to add that specs mean nothing. On paper, R5 is supposed to do 8 stops. But in practice the Panasonic is leagues better than the R5, at least in my experience.
Great video. Was on the fence for this one. Decided to go with a ZCAM M4 instead. A very different camera, of course, but with a cinematic look. I feel the GH6/5 line delivers images that look to "video". It's just not cinematic, but good for vlogging and basic RUclips work.
Fabulous
Excellent work, straight to the point!
Will there be a gh6s?
Where’s the OM-1 review?
The GH5 really disappointed me when shooting video of moving subjects like birds flying or planes landing. As soon is a have to follow/pan the subject, even very slow following, a lot of jitter and judder occurs in the recordings. For me, as a wildlife videographer, it made the GH5 practically completely unusable. Do you know if this serious jitter problem is solved on the GH6? Did you do a jitter test?
Try 60 fps next time.
@@edjefferson9175 Gh5 has no 60fps ;-)
@@PAULSWorld131 It does but only in 1920X1080
@@edjefferson9175 I have it at 4K as well
@@PAULSWorld131 Oh so that's even better. I don't remember - I sold the GH5 a year ago for the S5.
60fps will provide smooth panning shots without the jaggedness.
Does the GH6 finally have native ISO 100? Or is it extended ISO 100 like on the GH5?
Assuming you’re shooting in a regular picture profile, ISO 100 is truly native with ISO 50 as an extended option. In V-Log, native ISO is now 250 rather than 400.
@@JeremyHalterman Sweet! No more ND filters needed for casual filming outside.
@@yawningmarmot I’m surprised more reviewers haven’t mentioned the lower native ISO. It’s been one of my favorite features over the GH5!
In photo modes there isn't an native ISO according to Sean on one of the Lumix Live streams as he said the dynamic range boost feature is automatic and can't be set to ON or OFF like it is for video. I don't quite know how it works but sometimes when shooting photos in Natural profile, the lowest ISO I got the best dynamic range was at ISO 800 and a couple of times it worked better at ISO 500 and its not the same as the GH5/GH5 II or G9 which from my tests seem better suited for photography than the GH6 despite the better colors on the GH6. Seems to me in my tests it may depend on the lighting in the area you are shooting in that can effect when the dynamic range boost is on or off but I have no idea as Panasonic won't say.
For video the native ISO for V-Log is 250 when dynamic range boost is off and 2000 when on. (ISO wen on is 800 for other picture profiles) That may seem high but I always leave it on for best dynamic range as I have noticed when properly exposed the shadow noise is comparable to the GH5 with V-Log L ISO 400 (or slightly better in some cases) and after applying noise reduction in editing the footage is quite impressive and better with more detail than on the GH5 when shooting 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 ALL-I. When dynamic range boost is on, you have to use an ND filter. I use two NiSi variable NDs a 1.5-5 and a 5-9 stop and they work great with no X when fully stopped down.
@@DynamixWarePro Wow, thank you for such a detailed insight!
Have you by any chance used GH5 II and could you maybe comment on its preamps? I have searched on and on, and I can't find any information as to whether the noise floor is better on the GH5 II compared to GH5.
Your opinion on the GH6 preamps would also be appreciated!
Great camera. If the AF was as good as in my Canon M50 i would definitely get it!
doesn't feel well crafted test, any youtuber can whip out this type of quick test, a bit disappointed
wow Cinelike D2 look so good straight out of camera, I like that desaturated look
*I don't understand why you have no evaluation clips shot in 5.7K or Open Gate 5.8K ? Why wouldn't you want to show tests using the maximum possible resolution this new GH6 sensor has to offer ???????? 💁💁💁💁😳😳😳😳😳👀👀👀👀👀*
I like your voice
What. No video AF test?
Was expecting Jordan.
If it was Jordon would have been packed with more awesome info. This was a waste of time.
@@onnie1968 Not Jordon, Jordan... like the tooth brush.
It would be great if you could post your image comparisons on Vimeo as 4K 10 bit that way we can actually see the quality differences.
Ahh yes, Seattle...where V-Log is rarely necessary because it's usually cloudy.
High dynamic range? What's that for? Everything we shoot has about three stops of DR to capture!
I make flat earth videos and need at least 4 stops of DR to show that the curvature is fake!
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The video didn't explain anything. You're on RUclips you have to detail what your thoughts are.
WHERES JORDAN
He's editing Saturday's episode. These sample clips will be coming in addition to Chris and Jordan's episodes, to provide downloadable samples for you to do your own analysis, alongside the DPRTV episodes.
Colours and stabilization are impressive, but the image is quite soft compared to the full frame equivalents.
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What a useless comparison. Did you shoot in 30p, 60p or 120p? These short videos are a waste of time. Just stick to the longer format videos.
It's probably 24p based on the jitter in the pan.
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