Sometimes we need to be very sober when we listen to the Western media about our leaders. The genocide did take place in Rwanda that is the fact. It is well known that the United Nations did nothing to stop. And we must understand that the commitment that was taken by the Western powers when they signed the Genocide Act. For that fact the Western powers will not accept genocide easily. That is why it took years for Germany to admit what they did in Namibia and for Benjamin Netanyahu and America including all the Global South to admit that Israel is doing in Palestine and the Palestinian. It was Bill Clinton administration that let the Genocide took place in Rwanda including the United Nations. For us to Judge Paul as a Dictator it is to soon when the whole world that could have helped stood by. That threath of Hutus to attack Rwanda is still there. The pepatrators of genocide are still there and the most of them are in the eastern DRC. If we talk opposition in Rwanda what opposition ethnic opposition or political opposition. We should accept that reconciliation does take time the wounds are still very fresh. For white South African it is easy forgetting that they are enjoying the right s they never gave us. It is easy for them to critisize.
Today we talk about Rwanda fondly because of this man. His leadership has transformed Rwanda into a country that is world standard. However, the western media reports prefers to run propaganda about him. The Africans, unable to protect Sankara, Lumumba, Ghadaffi, etc will be on his case and regret when he is no more. Africans learn politics too late. At the moment we are fed all nonsense about him to tarnish his reputation. Libya learned too late that they shouldn’t have listened to western media. Now oil is channelled to USA and Libya is wrecked. Let Kagame and Rwanda be… get your leaders to care about their countries and its citizens.
it makes me think maybe south africa needed a Kagame. if Mbeki was able to keep power away from Zuma, South Africa would be a very different country today
@@lm_b5080 I don’t think so. Mbeki was among those who sold us during codesa negotiations. We need an independent leader and right now Malema is our Kagame.
@@EFF2UnionBuildingit is insulting to EFF + Malema to say they like Kagame - Kagame is a neoliberal capitalist. Kagame wants investment & development. EFF + CIC does not believe in such capitalist WMC concept. Malema is more like Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro
Thabo Mbeki did not participate in the Codesa talks the person who led talks was Cyril and Valli Moosa. Thabo and Jacob were changed by Late President Mandela. Please read the Dream deferred. And those who keeps talking about selling at Codesa must show us the proof.
I’m Tutsi but I don’t love you are devil and all your supports, you’re the cause of Genocide by killing two president’s, I lost all my family because of you Demon
SA did an investigation around Karegeya's strange death. And the initial lead pointed to Kigali, Rwanda. SA even had suspects and asked Rwanda to bring them to SA to be trialed. They refused. That is where it became kind of clear that the government could have been involved, especially taking into consideration the history. And the pattern of Rwandans dying under strange circumstances in other countries. I remember seeing an interview of another Rwandan who was highly positioned in government having bodyguards allocated to him by the Belgian government in Belgium because he was deemed to be in danger.
President is saying, no evidence provided to Rwanda and Rwanda was not associated to investigation. But you are probably among those rwandan anti Kagame.
I think your narrative is nonsensical- America hosted Habiyarimana a Pastor involved in the massacre of his congregants - if America was Africa they were supposed to hand him to face justice. There was genocide right- get real.
I don't think you are using your brain, just typing so that you also seen that you've typed, now my qn goes to you, who are those that SA is trying in their courts that it has labeled to be suspects? Or you didn't bother to keep following up the issue.
@@jam-famDistabilize neighbor? Do you mean the banana republic of congo? Yes I guess, do you know how big threat is coming from you are calling neighbor? Let rwandans tell their story.
This man is one of Africa's modest influential & controversial man, couldn't SABC find a better journalist with better articulation and someone who actually knows how to ask relevant and necessary follow up questions. This was a very important conversation/interview, what a missed opportunity.
The Africans can throw you under the bus like they did to Sankara, Lumumba, Gadaffi, Nkruhma, etc. Then years later they will celebrate you dead. This is what Africans are doing with Kagame. They will listen to western media and believe all the conspiracies about him. Truth is, Africa needs leaders who upgrade the lives of the people and Kagame’s Rwandan is today talked as one of the best countries…removing Kagame will bring us Libya. From the best to the most horrific country ever. Today, those who listened to the conspiracies about Ghadaffi are crying while the oil has been shipped to USA
Kagame is true african panafricanist those who hate him and say he kills congoles and hutu are criminals massacred millions people in genocide 1994 in Rwanda are trying to hide their involvement in atrocities against humanity
@@bishopjayyou are lying, it is the Hutu extremist who literally killed 1million tutsi in 100 days, you crying crocodile tears. it is literally the DRC government that welcomed the defeated genocidal regime army in their country without disarming them and served as the base to prepare invading Rwanda again. In that time they continued their genocide against the Tutsi Congolese
I just read a book the state of Africa by Martin Meredith. I support kagame 100%. The topic on Rwanda Genocide made me cry. UN let Rwanda down. Even now people want to raise against Kagame. The man ended Genocide. United Rwanda.. Perpetrators of genecide ran away to DRC side as refugees and started scandarlizing Kagame. Others started believing them the lies against him. I encourage people to read this book
I know that only rwandese can say like that. You like manipulating people but we know you. Leave your bad attitude. Attacking your neighbors will create problems to your descendance. Idiot
I guess you are Congolese right really maybe you guys it’s been more years blaming on Rwanda and doing nothing just killing peoples who speak kinyarwanda in congo didn’t help you guys now you have to blame on government for not dealing with Rwanda about fdrl rebel group who did genocide and they are still doing it in congo killing Tutsi Congolese and kagame asking for them and you denied they are not in congo when they are actually armed and supplied weapons
I'm a South African and have had the privilege of visiting Rwanda before. It's a beautiful nation that has made significant progress. I enjoyed the hospitality, culture, food, and the warmth of its people. However, I find it deeply troubling how nonchalant the President is when confronted with these serious accusations. "When were they killed?" Is that the stance he wishes to adopt while suspicions linger that his government may have orchestrated the killings of those who opposed him and his party in South Africa and other parts of the world? He is undoubtedly aware of these accusations. How can trust be cultivated with a foreign government, especially one perceived by many around the world as disregarding the sovereignty, rule of law, diplomacy, international law, and human rights of both other countries and its own citizens Rwanda has made significant progress, yet there remains a considerable distance to travel in achieving full realisation of human rights for its citizens.
Lol, a joint investigation? That was insulting from the outset. We have a police service equipped to investigate such crimes within our jurisdiction, and a prosecuting authority capable of presenting evidence in a South African court against accused persons. I suggest that you, along with Kagame, cease gaslighting us. If that's the norm in Rwanda, it doesn't justify such behavior elsewhere. Understand the importance of being held accountable for your actions and respect human rights, sovereignty, and the rule of law in other nations. Until then, relations between us will remain strained, as South African citizens we refuse to endorse our government cozying up to a regime facing such serious accusations, especially when Rwanda appears so nonchalant about them.
@Rwabugili either you are being disingenuous or ignorant of facts when you asked why the SA gvt refused joint investigation? Firstly, that was never proposed until this guy made a false claim on such until now. Secondly, the case in 2010 saw Rwandan charged in South Africa of the murder of Nymwasa. And I believe the evidence that was advanced then fingered the Rwandan gvt. In short, your president knows why South Africa - Rwandan relationship collapsed at that time. He needs to come clean.
@@mihlalimakwedini46what is the South African stance? Have any arrests been made on aphartheid crimes? Has the person who killed Chris Hani been arrested? Why is Robert Sobukwe still silenced when we have the supposed free speech? Anyone arrested for political killings on Marikana? We as South Africans think we are the African beacon of democracy but we are not!!! I would never ever fault a leader thats puts its citizens first regardless of western media propaganda
Thank you very much Sis Sophie for bringing closer to me the views of this man I love and respect from afar. Hearing him speak specifically in relation to South Afrika is highly appreciated.
Leaving my country DR Congo for refuge was one of the toughest moments in my life. The war has really destroyed our homeland and the all World keeps quiet because of their selfish interest
@@johnkabanga9001 In Northern Rwanda, gold is found even on the surface. And it has more pure cobalt than the cobalt found in DRC, as well as coltan. This lie was sold too much that Rwanda is poor with nothing. It is literally the same land that DRC is on, with the same minerals. Not equal in quantity but they are there. And, where else does any country get funds to finance their budget? Don't be an idiot
@johnkabanga9001 u have money u have everything but your country peoples including you , u have a zero brain 🧠 only Dancing Ndombolo and eating monkey 🐒 🙈 🙊 after u will come out to blame Rwanda out of jealous 😅😅😅😅😅
Even if all the world could not trust you but many Rwandese love you and will love you till the end! I love you mister president handsome out and golden heart inside
His body language shows that he was nervous and uncomfortable to talk about the death of that former intelligence head.But anyway if i where to choose someone to lead any contry in the world, I will vote for this man.My reason: He does not suffer from inferiority complex 2 He does not suffer from victim mentality ( He was not part of those African presidents Who went to beg for food in Ukraine and Russia) 3.He is pragmatic ( he looks for solutions not shifting the blameor making excuses )4 He has a vision and deals harshly with any one who wants to destroy or kill his vision.
I dont have to know him well. I just write what i read and seen on videos about the man. Unfortunately i never had the privillage of meeting someone who is as well informed as you are about the man.Maybe you must write a book or create an online platform where you educate us about The apresident.
We love you Sis Sophie 🙏 thank you for this important interview. Thank You President Kagame for answering questions. I think i follow events between Congo as a whole and Rwanda. I know what is the take of Former President Mbeki on how the conflict between Rwanda and the entire Congo should be resolved. I can safely say Former President Mbeki is on the same page as Presiden Kagame . They are together the that conflict in one way or another. I would have liked to kindly ask African Presidents all of them If a genocide is called a conflict. Out of if somebody becomes a billionaire not running any production line. Just for being involved in resolving that genocide called conflict. Will the genocide called conflict ever end. Im asking this question because both Forner President Thabo Mbeki and Honourable President Paul Kagame are billionaires out i don't know where. Will war ever end in Africa if it pays so well 🇿🇦❤️🇵🇸🙏 thank you,🙏
Great man! The world wants to drag him down about his own past. South Africa couldn’t even deal with its own reconciliation disasters. Today Rwandans Hutus and Tutsis live side by side in peace. South Africa still can’t agree to share their land and racism still remains while black people reconciled with themselves. Let Kagame comti9with his great job. Rwanda today is what it is because of his leadership.
Yes , Kagame is not an Angel he can sometimes do a mistake but his strength is to build Africa together and no African leader can support him due to their bosses in west who doesn't want such decisions to be taken. So they are trying to make him down coz they see his actions, speaches awaken Africans mind.
@@Africapa I don’t believe in angels. No such thing…none of you spoke about an angel when Rwanda was on its knees. Now you all have strange inputs as if you have been asked. Kagame and the Rwandans worked on their own to uplift their country and you now talking about angels. If angels could save the genocide…
@@Intwarisamuel u guys r the reason Africa is not progressing u r contributing negatively, SA don't need Rwanda and Rwanda don't need SA but we need a united Africa against Africas enemies, .malawi is poor and needs a better Africa, stop this nonsense
Thank you Mr President rwandans support you. No one ll stand on us in talking always what we have to choose. We don’t need who we rwandans should choose as president. It is only for rwandans rigjts.
I have my reservations about SA and in particular the politics.... However 13:56 to the end is everything as Africans we really need to conceptualize and engrain in our hearts.
I think President Kagame's quest to have discussions around Congo and Mozambique has to be given an ear. He seems to be genuine in his pleas. I suspect that egos and assumptions have clouded the issues
Always give your precious time to listen to others, its a way to understand them better............I have realized that this guy want nothing but goodness of Africa, i see his heart is burning for the development, self reliance, self respect and peaceful Africa.
What H.E Kagame is saying shows how other countries react to solve African issues, and it shows that with leaders like them this Africa we want is not the one they need as decision makers we voted.
And that is #AfricanUnion you guys wants to #talk about...😂 Anyway even if you sends more, There's no #Win either if you still think we're in #2012 lol.... You'll burry Soo many #SANDF lol.... And don't ever talk about #APARTHEID if you don't even no #GENOCIDE against #TUTSI.
Indeed, Africa needs strong leaders like Paul Kagame who stand against those big countries when they are wrong destination against Africa and Africans.
Kagame is an African hero. The West are intimidated by him because he's not their puppet. He has dignity and stands for Africa. Kagame allows Africans to enter Rwanda visa free.
Here is a short summary of the issue with the M23. The M23 is a rebel military group that is for the most part formed of ethnic Tutsi. This rebel group is mainly based on the eastern part of the DRC. According to a United Nations report, it was found that Rwanda created and commanded the M23 rebel group. Your question will be "How did Rwanda create this group?" When the Congolese rebel called "Laurent Desire Kabila" wanted to overthrow president "Mobutu", he benefited from the support of the USA and Rwanda. But Laurent Desire Kabila did not have a proper army to overthrow Mobutu, reason why his rebellion was a mixture of Rwandan soldiers and some Congolese. When he took power from Mobutu, he realized that he made a mistake by inviting the Rwandan army who was mainly made up of Tutsis to Congo. Because Laurent Desire Kabila did not have the time to rebuild the Congolese army after defeating Mobutu, the Rwandan army found itself controlling most the Congolese army. This did not please Kabila Laurent because he realized that the Rwandans he brought to assist him were now wanting to control the whole country and he requested them to go back to Rwanda after paying them the money due to them. But Kagame was not happy with this decision and used the same Rwandan soldiers to start trouble again in the eastern part of the DRC. Why was Kagame not happy? He realized that Congo was a land reach in minerals and he could not afford to loose control of the mining areas. If you notice, the M23 is mainly made-up of Tutsis. Rwanda is made up of two tribes, the Tutsis and the Hutus. The Hutus are a majority in Rwanda, but Kagame has not allowed them to be part of his government nor his army. He hates them with passion. Tutsis do not originate from Congo but came to the Congo as refugees or workers. Most of them were given Congolese citizenship and are living in peace in Congo. Some are big businessmen and others have been part of the government. But when Kagame noticed that he was going to loose the control of the minerals in the eastern part of the Congo, he created the M23 using Tutsis from Rwanda and some Tutsis from Congo with the support of Europeans and Americans. The M23 sole objective is to control the rich mineral areas of the DRC on the east. Reason why you will notice that the war is mainly centered around where the minerals are. Kagame is just a thief used by the west to destroy the DRC. But he will not live for long. His time to go has come and he will leave Rwanda a country not united. He did not unite the Tutsis and the Hutus in his own country and took that same hatred to the DRC.
Genocide is prepared way before. Hating Tutsis started back in 1959, upward. It is not about plane. you are actually carrying the plan by gnocidaires when talked about this ill argument. When Tutsis children were chased in schol in 1973 was it because of the plane? when their education right was being denied was it because of the plane. was then when the leader of RPF was killed at the battle field in 1990 , all Tutsis did not take machetes to Kill Hutus, if in your understanding whetever a president is Killed, a baby not sharing the same ethnic group must be killed. You are an idiot
People should know that we're in digital not analog coz every thing is recorded and south Africa has the most technically than Rwanda truth is always the truth
They are not just using Rwanda as transit, they are using Rwandan military reinforcements. They are allies. Rwandan military is there for FDLR, which is embedded with Congolese army, which makes them one. And Kagame is not denying supporting M23. He diverts from the question every time, to ask what about FDLR, what about Congolese army targeting a specific community... he said in another interview, 'if Rwandan forces are in DRC, why would they want to be there in the first place?'
@@patriot_2022 why are you also ignoring 100,000 refugees from eastern congo who exiled to Rwanda claiming to be killed by their government please stop taking sides why doesn't president of DRC want negotiation with M23
@@dusengesalve I didn't take a side. I only said what in my view is the facts on the ground. Which is that Rwandan military is directly involved in DRC fighting FDLR and Congolese army alongside M23, as well as facilitating M23 through weapons and training. Didn't say whether i support it or not.
Who are you to call him a murderer? Who is murdering people on SA street, on streets in USA, who is commuting genocide against Congolese tutsis in Congo? Who is killing and burning and eating human meat in Goma, ituri butembo etc...
My view: Rwanda has to deal with challenges that includes its own national security flowing from the genocide along with the ever-present influence of its former coloniser/s around these issues. It is trying to respond as pragmatically as possible to its challenges, choices. I also have a sense it has to grapple with matters around 'lebensraum," more land. The journalist has to ask cogent questions to remove potential accusatorial 'probing.' Commendably its students came to RSA to study and went back home to help their country develop.
Someone needs to explain please why Sophie has a job at the SABC?these questions she is asking my 7yr old can position and ask them thoughtfully...how did Sophie get this job?
I can do better than her. I noticed that she is not fit for the job during the 2017 Zimbabwean coup. They need someone who has facts n knows how to hold an interview
She was in the right place, at the right time... a close relationship with Pres Mbeki and also later EFF pushed that she should be promoted to the position she was acting in! She used to be terrible, what you are seeing here is a great improved Sophie!
A sovereign country has to invite you, you don't just rock in and what with the sense of entitlement? Why is it a must that SA helps? How many countries in Africa?
You Tutsi Rwandese have been kicked out of Tanzania because you tried to do the same thing you are doing in Congo...Go fight for your right in Rwanda not in Congo.
@@johnkabanga9001 hah ahaha Tutsi better we are free and enjoying the progress of the country..haha your mind is poor .I think you are a refuge?haha ahaha
The world will remember this man thousand years to come
You don't know him yet and what bad things is doing in the continent
The world will remember him as a big criminal africa never had
Sometimes we need to be very sober when we listen to the Western media about our leaders.
The genocide did take place in Rwanda that is the fact. It is well known that the United Nations did nothing to stop.
And we must understand that the commitment that was taken by the Western powers when they signed the Genocide Act. For that fact the Western powers will not accept genocide easily.
That is why it took years for Germany to admit what they did in Namibia and for Benjamin Netanyahu and America including all the Global South to admit that Israel is doing in Palestine and the Palestinian.
It was Bill Clinton administration that let the Genocide took place in Rwanda including the United Nations. For us to Judge Paul as a Dictator it is to soon when the whole world that could have helped stood by.
That threath of Hutus to attack Rwanda is still there. The pepatrators of genocide are still there and the most of them are in the eastern DRC.
If we talk opposition in Rwanda what opposition ethnic opposition or political opposition. We should accept that reconciliation does take time the wounds are still very fresh.
For white South African it is easy forgetting that they are enjoying the right s they never gave us. It is easy for them to critisize.
@@bongilemayaba2333 how long it will take to stop génocide in dr congo 🇨🇩 ? The master mind behind it is PAUL KAGAME
@@lovemadoc’est toi le climiner nous il nous a sauvé vous les climineurs
Kagame is an African hero
Criminal
he is just a cia puppet not a hero😏
Today we talk about Rwanda fondly because of this man. His leadership has transformed Rwanda into a country that is world standard. However, the western media reports prefers to run propaganda about him. The Africans, unable to protect Sankara, Lumumba, Ghadaffi, etc will be on his case and regret when he is no more. Africans learn politics too late. At the moment we are fed all nonsense about him to tarnish his reputation. Libya learned too late that they shouldn’t have listened to western media. Now oil is channelled to USA and Libya is wrecked. Let Kagame and Rwanda be… get your leaders to care about their countries and its citizens.
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it makes me think maybe south africa needed a Kagame. if Mbeki was able to keep power away from Zuma, South Africa would be a very different country today
@@lm_b5080 I don’t think so. Mbeki was among those who sold us during codesa negotiations. We need an independent leader and right now Malema is our Kagame.
@@EFF2UnionBuildingit is insulting to EFF + Malema to say they like Kagame - Kagame is a neoliberal capitalist. Kagame wants investment & development. EFF + CIC does not believe in such capitalist WMC concept. Malema is more like Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro
Thabo Mbeki did not participate in the Codesa talks the person who led talks was Cyril and Valli Moosa. Thabo and Jacob were changed by Late President Mandela. Please read the Dream deferred. And those who keeps talking about selling at Codesa must show us the proof.
I love you Paul Kagame 🇷🇼 👑 and Rwandese 🇷🇼❤️
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I’m Tutsi but I don’t love you are devil and all your supports, you’re the cause of Genocide by killing two president’s, I lost all my family because of you Demon
My favorite african leader.
So you enjoy war mongers
Long Live Rwanda, Long Live PK.
SA did an investigation around Karegeya's strange death. And the initial lead pointed to Kigali, Rwanda. SA even had suspects and asked Rwanda to bring them to SA to be trialed. They refused. That is where it became kind of clear that the government could have been involved, especially taking into consideration the history. And the pattern of Rwandans dying under strange circumstances in other countries. I remember seeing an interview of another Rwandan who was highly positioned in government having bodyguards allocated to him by the Belgian government in Belgium because he was deemed to be in danger.
President is saying, no evidence provided to Rwanda and Rwanda was not associated to investigation. But you are probably among those rwandan anti Kagame.
I think your narrative is nonsensical- America hosted Habiyarimana a Pastor involved in the massacre of his congregants - if America was Africa they were supposed to hand him to face justice. There was genocide right- get real.
I don't think you are using your brain, just typing so that you also seen that you've typed, now my qn goes to you, who are those that SA is trying in their courts that it has labeled to be suspects?
Or you didn't bother to keep following up the issue.
Am not saying that Rwandan gvrt has dan it but we are all sure that every state can shout down those who say negative to them. Peace to Africa.
He's the one who sent the murders to his hotel perioddtttt
Best President in Africa who changes his country from worst to best. Kudos Mr President
Not really, you don't destabilize a neighbor to build a great Africa
@@jam-famDistabilize neighbor? Do you mean the banana republic of congo?
Yes I guess, do you know how big threat is coming from you are calling neighbor?
Let rwandans tell their story.
Best president in terms of Killing other Africans and working for westerners to still Congolese minerals then build rwanda
@@MH-nq7wyyou're a filthy liar
What threat are you talking about??
Your lies are heading to their end .
A criminal and killer
This man is one of Africa's modest influential & controversial man, couldn't SABC find a better journalist with better articulation and someone who actually knows how to ask relevant and necessary follow up questions.
This was a very important conversation/interview, what a missed opportunity.
Exactly my thoughts . So frustrated .
My favorite African president ❤❤❤ all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦
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We for Kagame
love you kagame support you live long my darling
❤💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘
Great interview, thank you Mr President
The best african president ever, pan african, open minded.
In what?
A killer of Hutu and Congolese people
The Africans can throw you under the bus like they did to Sankara, Lumumba, Gadaffi, Nkruhma, etc. Then years later they will celebrate you dead. This is what Africans are doing with Kagame. They will listen to western media and believe all the conspiracies about him. Truth is, Africa needs leaders who upgrade the lives of the people and Kagame’s Rwandan is today talked as one of the best countries…removing Kagame will bring us Libya. From the best to the most horrific country ever. Today, those who listened to the conspiracies about Ghadaffi are crying while the oil has been shipped to USA
Kagame is true african panafricanist those who hate him and say he kills congoles and hutu are criminals massacred millions people in genocide 1994 in Rwanda are trying to hide their involvement in atrocities against humanity
@@bishopjayyou are lying, it is the Hutu extremist who literally killed 1million tutsi in 100 days, you crying crocodile tears. it is literally the DRC government that welcomed the defeated genocidal regime army in their country without disarming them and served as the base to prepare invading Rwanda again. In that time they continued their genocide against the Tutsi Congolese
I just read a book the state of Africa by Martin Meredith. I support kagame 100%. The topic on Rwanda Genocide made me cry. UN let Rwanda down. Even now people want to raise against Kagame. The man ended Genocide. United Rwanda.. Perpetrators of genecide ran away to DRC side as refugees and started scandarlizing Kagame. Others started believing them the lies against him. I encourage people to read this book
Happy with improving relations between the two countries. South Africa can learn a lot from Rwanda🇷🇼 🇿🇦
Learn what? Dictatorship?
Sick unless if u re dump😢!many things u can learn about 🇷🇼
i like how this guy transformed Rwanda, their economy is flourishing, their army is so strong and well trained and equipped
I know that only rwandese can say like that. You like manipulating people but we know you. Leave your bad attitude. Attacking your neighbors will create problems to your descendance. Idiot
Economy is flourishing because of M23 in DRC on behalf of the western powers.
On the cost of People lives
@@baudoinbenjamin8975 there is nothing achieved that does not cost people's lives
Paul Kagame 👑 This man is the Greatest African President 🙌🏿 🇷🇼 Finish and Klaar. Let's put this matter to rest.‼
Pray for Congo 🇨🇩 🙏🏿
Love to president kagame❤❤❤ is the one to learn from.
We need more Kagame in Africa
You have no idea what you are saying.
3 kagame in Africa,,Africa will definitely despair
That is what the western country are hoping to keep African in their cup .Kagame WEST PUPPET
I guess you are Congolese right really maybe you guys it’s been more years blaming on Rwanda and doing nothing just killing peoples who speak kinyarwanda in congo didn’t help you guys now you have to blame on government for not dealing with Rwanda about fdrl rebel group who did genocide and they are still doing it in congo killing Tutsi Congolese and kagame asking for them and you denied they are not in congo when they are actually armed and supplied weapons
@@Mavs-fanswrong assumption, I am not Congolese and that’s very ignorant of you to assume what someone is based on their opinion.
just to think that we had leaders like this in South Africa until 2009!
Ill prepared Journalist. Wish President Kagame all the best .
You can say that again 🤦🏾♀️
I concur
I support kagame all the way
This man is highly intelligent
The saint Kagame. All South African President from Mothlanthle are the problem but him 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Great man here👊♥️ Best african president ever👌
Yeah man soudy
Wat beautiful interview u can see they look both very comfortable talking to each others ❤. We should promote our African journalism
I'm a South African and have had the privilege of visiting Rwanda before. It's a beautiful nation that has made significant progress. I enjoyed the hospitality, culture, food, and the warmth of its people. However, I find it deeply troubling how nonchalant the President is when confronted with these serious accusations. "When were they killed?" Is that the stance he wishes to adopt while suspicions linger that his government may have orchestrated the killings of those who opposed him and his party in South Africa and other parts of the world? He is undoubtedly aware of these accusations. How can trust be cultivated with a foreign government, especially one perceived by many around the world as disregarding the sovereignty, rule of law, diplomacy, international law, and human rights of both other countries and its own citizens Rwanda has made significant progress, yet there remains a considerable distance to travel in achieving full realisation of human rights for its citizens.
human rights is killing someone who is plotting to attack a large population before he does it.... that is what happened
Didn't you hear him say that they asked South Africa to conduct a joint investigation but SA refused?
Lol, a joint investigation? That was insulting from the outset. We have a police service equipped to investigate such crimes within our jurisdiction, and a prosecuting authority capable of presenting evidence in a South African court against accused persons. I suggest that you, along with Kagame, cease gaslighting us. If that's the norm in Rwanda, it doesn't justify such behavior elsewhere. Understand the importance of being held accountable for your actions and respect human rights, sovereignty, and the rule of law in other nations. Until then, relations between us will remain strained, as South African citizens we refuse to endorse our government cozying up to a regime facing such serious accusations, especially when Rwanda appears so nonchalant about them.
@Rwabugili either you are being disingenuous or ignorant of facts when you asked why the SA gvt refused joint investigation? Firstly, that was never proposed until this guy made a false claim on such until now. Secondly, the case in 2010 saw Rwandan charged in South Africa of the murder of Nymwasa. And I believe the evidence that was advanced then fingered the Rwandan gvt. In short, your president knows why South Africa - Rwandan relationship collapsed at that time. He needs to come clean.
@@mihlalimakwedini46what is the South African stance? Have any arrests been made on aphartheid crimes? Has the person who killed Chris Hani been arrested? Why is Robert Sobukwe still silenced when we have the supposed free speech? Anyone arrested for political killings on Marikana?
We as South Africans think we are the African beacon of democracy but we are not!!! I would never ever fault a leader thats puts its citizens first regardless of western media propaganda
Thank you very much Sis Sophie for bringing closer to me the views of this man I love and respect from afar. Hearing him speak specifically in relation to South Afrika is highly appreciated.
Leaving my country DR Congo for refuge was one of the toughest moments in my life. The war has really destroyed our homeland and the all World keeps quiet because of their selfish interest
Uganda has the same issue
president africa deserve
Paul Kagame is the best leader of Africa
His Excellence we love you ❤🇨🇩
His excellent ❤
PAUL KAGAME IS THE BEST PRESIDENT IN AFRICA. HE BUILD RWANDA TO BE A POWERFUL COUNTRY IN AFRICA. VIVA PRESIDENT PAUL VIVA!
Where did he get the money from to build that poor country like Rwanda?
@@johnkabanga9001 In Northern Rwanda, gold is found even on the surface. And it has more pure cobalt than the cobalt found in DRC, as well as coltan.
This lie was sold too much that Rwanda is poor with nothing. It is literally the same land that DRC is on, with the same minerals. Not equal in quantity but they are there.
And, where else does any country get funds to finance their budget? Don't be an idiot
He built Rwanda in Congolese’s blood. He’s a western puppet used to still Congo minerals
@johnkabanga9001 u have money u have everything but your country peoples including you , u have a zero brain 🧠 only Dancing Ndombolo and eating monkey 🐒 🙈 🙊 after u will come out to blame Rwanda out of jealous 😅😅😅😅😅
All you heard is fake propaganda. Imagine a country whose budget is founded on stealing ressources of a neighbouring country.
Even if all the world could not trust you but many Rwandese love you and will love you till the end! I love you mister president handsome out and golden heart inside
Well said Mr. PK. Africa and the world really need fearless leaders like you
His body language shows that he was nervous and uncomfortable to talk about the death of that former intelligence head.But anyway if i where to choose someone to lead any contry in the world, I will vote for this man.My reason: He does not suffer from inferiority complex 2 He does not suffer from victim mentality ( He was not part of those African presidents
Who went to beg for food in Ukraine and Russia) 3.He is pragmatic ( he looks for solutions not shifting the blameor making excuses )4 He has a vision and deals harshly with any one who wants to destroy or kill his vision.
You don't know who you talking about that why you rushing like a mad
I dont have to know him well. I just write what i read and seen on videos about the man. Unfortunately i never had the privillage of meeting someone who is as well informed as you are about the man.Maybe you must write a book or create an online platform where you educate us about The apresident.
keep yo self in dat smaall village and enjoy
I love the knowledge of Kagame and Museveni on matters of sensitivity especially miltery matters
We love u our excellence
The best president Paul kagame in Africa even
Mbeki was under appreciated.
Long live my King...👑🙏❤️👏👏 Mr. President hope Africans youth we've you.
We love you Sis Sophie 🙏 thank you for this important interview. Thank You President Kagame for answering questions. I think i follow events between Congo as a whole and Rwanda. I know what is the take of Former President Mbeki on how the conflict between Rwanda and the entire Congo should be resolved. I can safely say Former President Mbeki is on the same page as Presiden Kagame . They are together the that conflict in one way or another.
I would have liked to kindly ask African Presidents all of them If a genocide is called a conflict. Out of if somebody becomes a billionaire not running any production line. Just for being involved in resolving that genocide called conflict. Will the genocide called conflict ever end. Im asking this question because both Forner President Thabo Mbeki and Honourable President Paul Kagame are billionaires out i don't know where. Will war ever end in Africa if it pays so well 🇿🇦❤️🇵🇸🙏 thank you,🙏
The president of Rwanda has united the Rwanda people
If it so about unification in Rwanda so now why he is always he said there's some FLdr in Congo what are they doing there ?
He must stop those lies...
It's easy stop fights in Congo.Ruwandan ang Ugandan army must go back home then the war will be over.
Which pipo😂😂😂😂...how many Hutu generals are in that killers army...keep at it...nothing lasts forever.
PK your a Legend
Great man! The world wants to drag him down about his own past. South Africa couldn’t even deal with its own reconciliation disasters. Today Rwandans Hutus and Tutsis live side by side in peace. South Africa still can’t agree to share their land and racism still remains while black people reconciled with themselves. Let Kagame comti9with his great job. Rwanda today is what it is because of his leadership.
Yes , Kagame is not an Angel he can sometimes do a mistake but his strength is to build Africa together and no African leader can support him due to their bosses in west who doesn't want such decisions to be taken. So they are trying to make him down coz they see his actions, speaches awaken Africans mind.
@@Africapa I don’t believe in angels. No such thing…none of you spoke about an angel when Rwanda was on its knees. Now you all have strange inputs as if you have been asked. Kagame and the Rwandans worked on their own to uplift their country and you now talking about angels. If angels could save the genocide…
Afrika my home
If South Africans don't want a relationship with us, we are fine stay in South Africa, and we will stay in our great country, Rwanda. That's clear.
You have nothing that South Africa needs.
@@johnkabanga9001 but there's nothing we need in South Africa too
@@johnkabanga9001 and you have nothing that Rwanda needs.
Are you sure?@@patriot_2022
@@Intwarisamuel u guys r the reason Africa is not progressing u r contributing negatively, SA don't need Rwanda and Rwanda don't need SA but we need a united Africa against Africas enemies, .malawi is poor and needs a better Africa, stop this nonsense
President Paul Kagame, I admire your leadership and wisdom 🙌 👏 🙏 ❤️ ✨️
Thank you Mr President rwandans support you. No one ll stand on us in talking always what we have to choose. We don’t need who we rwandans should choose as president. It is only for rwandans rigjts.
Not only Rwandese like him we Africans like him. Most capable and exemplary!
I have my reservations about SA and in particular the politics.... However 13:56 to the end is everything as Africans we really need to conceptualize and engrain in our hearts.
SA is poorly managed.
Africa unite
One of the best president in Africa
If you don't have something important to say just shut up
@@M.I.B_cpt you shout up as well.
This guy is immensely involved on the 1994 genocide in Rwanda,,but the Americans and its allies are shielding him from persecution.....
H/E Paul Kagame is so smart to solve the issues in Africa but becoz of indirect & immaturity politics there is a big resistance
It's a nice sound bite that made me laugh 🤣. Africa won't get better unless more brains like Kagame's are produced.
I'm cautious about your statement
I think President Kagame's quest to have discussions around Congo and Mozambique has to be given an ear. He seems to be genuine in his pleas. I suspect that egos and assumptions have clouded the issues
Wicked man
Always give your precious time to listen to others, its a way to understand them better............I have realized that this guy want nothing but goodness of Africa, i see his heart is burning for the development, self reliance, self respect and peaceful Africa.
What H.E Kagame is saying shows how other countries react to solve African issues, and it shows that with leaders like them this Africa we want is not the one they need as decision makers we voted.
I love this president ❤❤i wish it was my president 😢 not ramaphosa
Ndikuxelela ngo Pres. Kagame kemnake 👏🏼
President Poul Kagame🇷🇼 Our Mao Zedong🇨🇳 ✊
South Africa did well to even kick that same ambassador that was also kicked in Belgium and DRC
Do you believe it prevented Rwandans from living as they should? Yet, you kneel for him to return.
You boy , I know you are Genocide perpetrators staying in Soith Africa , so no logical comments you can write
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And that is #AfricanUnion you guys wants to #talk about...😂
Anyway even if you sends more, There's no #Win either if you still think we're in #2012 lol.... You'll burry Soo many #SANDF lol.... And don't ever talk about #APARTHEID if you don't even no #GENOCIDE against #TUTSI.
Babytigheyes , ? Man would you shut up cse I see you everywhere comment a rubbish ..
My president ever❤❤
This is true ❤❤
❤❤❤❤ yes my President I love you
Mr. Paul Kagame is our hero. I wish you would be our president of our country.
You are really our role model.
Stay blessed 🚀
Indeed, Africa needs strong leaders like Paul Kagame who stand against those big countries when they are wrong destination against Africa and Africans.
If you hate your own family how you love you neighborhood something isn't long here 💯 😅😅😂
Kagame we are proud of you
World-class leader..The best of the best.👏🙌
This man is wise.
You have to put respect on my president's name, and write His Excellence Paul Kagame, not just Kagame as if he is your Maid
PK for life ❤🇷🇼🇷🇼🇷🇼
Paul Kagame is a realist a man of action and truth. *Fit for the President of the United States of Afrika*
Kagame is an African hero. The West are intimidated by him because he's not their puppet. He has dignity and stands for Africa. Kagame allows Africans to enter Rwanda visa free.
They are speaking no holds barred now.This is "the Traore Effect!!" The jig is up!
Here is a short summary of the issue with the M23. The M23 is a rebel military group that is for the most part formed of ethnic Tutsi. This rebel group is mainly based on the eastern part of the DRC.
According to a United Nations report, it was found that Rwanda created and commanded the M23 rebel group.
Your question will be "How did Rwanda create this group?"
When the Congolese rebel called "Laurent Desire Kabila" wanted to overthrow president "Mobutu", he benefited from the support of the USA and Rwanda.
But Laurent Desire Kabila did not have a proper army to overthrow Mobutu, reason why his rebellion was a mixture of Rwandan soldiers and some Congolese.
When he took power from Mobutu, he realized that he made a mistake by inviting the Rwandan army who was mainly made up of Tutsis to Congo.
Because Laurent Desire Kabila did not have the time to rebuild the Congolese army after defeating Mobutu, the Rwandan army found itself controlling most the Congolese army.
This did not please Kabila Laurent because he realized that the Rwandans he brought to assist him were now wanting to control the whole country and he requested them to go back to Rwanda after paying them the money due to them.
But Kagame was not happy with this decision and used the same Rwandan soldiers to start trouble again in the eastern part of the DRC.
Why was Kagame not happy? He realized that Congo was a land reach in minerals and he could not afford to loose control of the mining areas.
If you notice, the M23 is mainly made-up of Tutsis. Rwanda is made up of two tribes, the Tutsis and the Hutus.
The Hutus are a majority in Rwanda, but Kagame has not allowed them to be part of his government nor his army. He hates them with passion.
Tutsis do not originate from Congo but came to the Congo as refugees or workers. Most of them were given Congolese citizenship and are living in peace in Congo. Some are big businessmen and others have been part of the government.
But when Kagame noticed that he was going to loose the control of the minerals in the eastern part of the Congo, he created the M23 using Tutsis from Rwanda and some Tutsis from Congo with the support of Europeans and Americans.
The M23 sole objective is to control the rich mineral areas of the DRC on the east.
Reason why you will notice that the war is mainly centered around where the minerals are.
Kagame is just a thief used by the west to destroy the DRC. But he will not live for long.
His time to go has come and he will leave Rwanda a country not united.
He did not unite the Tutsis and the Hutus in his own country and took that same hatred to the DRC.
So are you writing a book or what?
This man triggered the Rwandese genocide when his rebel group RPF took down the plane carrying former president Juvenal habyarimana
Genocide is prepared way before. Hating Tutsis started back in 1959, upward. It is not about plane. you are actually carrying the plan by gnocidaires when talked about this ill argument. When Tutsis children were chased in schol in 1973 was it because of the plane? when their education right was being denied was it because of the plane. was then when the leader of RPF was killed at the battle field in 1990 , all Tutsis did not take machetes to Kill Hutus, if in your understanding whetever a president is Killed, a baby not sharing the same ethnic group must be killed. You are an idiot
thank you Mr President for clearing matters!
African diaspora and Africans NEED LOVE I MEAN TRUE LOVE.
People should know that we're in digital not analog coz every thing is recorded and south Africa has the most technically than Rwanda truth is always the truth
If you are not supporting M23 why are you allowing the M23 to use Rwanda as the Transit for they are logistics?
What you talking about? We support them and we love them M23 ✊🏾
They are not just using Rwanda as transit, they are using Rwandan military reinforcements. They are allies.
Rwandan military is there for FDLR, which is embedded with Congolese army, which makes them one.
And Kagame is not denying supporting M23. He diverts from the question every time, to ask what about FDLR, what about Congolese army targeting a specific community...
he said in another interview, 'if Rwandan forces are in DRC, why would they want to be there in the first place?'
@@patriot_2022 why are you also ignoring 100,000 refugees from eastern congo who exiled to Rwanda claiming to be killed by their government please stop taking sides why doesn't president of DRC want negotiation with M23
@@dusengesalve I didn't take a side. I only said what in my view is the facts on the ground.
Which is that Rwandan military is directly involved in DRC fighting FDLR and Congolese army alongside M23, as well as facilitating M23 through weapons and training.
Didn't say whether i support it or not.
@@dusengesalve and I think we all know why president of DRC does not want to negotiate with M23
Proud of you my President 🇷🇼❤️👏🏾
Africa need strong man , great ideology, honesty not murderer like this man ( kagame)
Nonsense
Nonsense
Who are you to call him a murderer? Who is murdering people on SA street, on streets in USA, who is commuting genocide against Congolese tutsis in Congo? Who is killing and burning and eating human meat in Goma, ituri butembo etc...
My brother if you want to know more about Rwanda and our president please came and visit you will surprise and change your dirty mindset
Some idiot with total empty mind from nowhere just called a president a killer!!!😂
My view: Rwanda has to deal with challenges that includes its own national security flowing from the genocide along with the ever-present influence of its former coloniser/s around these issues. It is trying to respond as pragmatically as possible to its challenges, choices. I also have a sense it has to grapple with matters around 'lebensraum," more land. The journalist has to ask cogent questions to remove potential accusatorial 'probing.' Commendably its students came to RSA to study and went back home to help their country develop.
Can this man step down & give others a chance.
Why?
If you want a chance come and run for it then Rwandans will decide
Someone needs to explain please why Sophie has a job at the SABC?these questions she is asking my 7yr old can position and ask them thoughtfully...how did Sophie get this job?
I can do better than her. I noticed that she is not fit for the job during the 2017 Zimbabwean coup. They need someone who has facts n knows how to hold an interview
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She was in the right place, at the right time... a close relationship with Pres Mbeki and also later EFF pushed that she should be promoted to the position she was acting in! She used to be terrible, what you are seeing here is a great improved Sophie!
This one is bought to spread Kagame's propaganda...
African HERO
Paul kagame Assassin
Robotic journalism...😮
After March 2020, you expected anything else?
All the best my President.Resilence!!!
South Africa should have helped Mozambique immediately when the situation started
A sovereign country has to invite you, you don't just rock in and what with the sense of entitlement? Why is it a must that SA helps? How many countries in Africa?
President Kagame knows what he is talking about
Fellow
Team MK 🇺🇬 ,kagame 🇷🇼,M23 🇨🇩🫶🫶🫶🙏
Your dreaming ✨️
STOP FIGHTING M23 IN DRC, THEY ARE STRUGGLING FOR THEIR RIGHTS
You Tutsi Rwandese have been kicked out of Tanzania because you tried to do the same thing you are doing in Congo...Go fight for your right in Rwanda not in Congo.
@@johnkabanga9001 hah ahaha Tutsi better we are free and enjoying the progress of the country..haha your mind is poor .I think you are a refuge?haha ahaha
@@johnkabanga9001 Primitive mindset
@@johnkabanga9001Primitive mindset. Who told you that they were kicked out and yet I stay in Tanzania. Primitive mindset just throw words.
Nonsense propaganda and manipulation by Rwandese government wanting to expand their country
amazing interview but a lot of rhetorical questions
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