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Absolutely correct. I had another uv-5r delivered yesterday and one of the frequencies was my local hospital.
My 2 Motorola gp328 units I can pick up. They're meant to be locked together!
I always did like the interactive features of such equipment where you can modify it to suit your specific needs. Some folk shy away from re-programming and updating as they fear they may make a paperweight out of their radios. You do need a base amount of programming knowledge and the ability to follow instructions well. All is well here Fred. We are experiencing spring like weather and the days are getting longer. We just got to get rid of all the snow now. I hope the winds have subsided in your area. All the best Fred.
Hi Andy. Yes your correct. This subject keeps coming up in the comments so at least i can direct people to this video. All my Baofengs came with a wide range of freq across all bands. They are easy to reprogramme in Chirp. We have yet more wet and windy weather here. Not stopped raining all day and high winds predicted yet again for the weekend. Glad your snow is clearing. Take care bud.
Got a couple of Baofeng's used chirp on day one. I never considered that people actually use the test frequencies and leave it at that. Amazing!
You are spang on that. Was amazed to find my. Dragons(baofeng barking over a remote sensor in my yard)reacting /alarming. Im thinking this might be a plus. The feable xmiter in the sensor could be picked up as far as 2 blocks. AWay. I could walk the block and know its tripped. Can take a walk and be in the know. Rem: just switch off the baofing transmitter, and Listen Via chirp control. how simple? Kv4li 73
The majority of business users leave it on what they come programmed with, your average business buying a radio that's nit typed approvelesvrvthe 462 463 469 mhz in and is say 462 525 114.8 is most common I have the channels set up on scanner with the tones
I say near me 10 businesses using these or retevis on same freqs, they buy them and and just choose a preset channel
Love these radios, mine all on PMR now, when they came, i was on our shop watch network, Finland has a good PMR service, and some shops use PMR for there service, so fun to listen, and there on public band, so the odd, high guys to them is a bit of fun,
Good video Fred, have a good weekend.
Hi Fred. My favourite Baofeng radio has got to be the UV-B5. It has a rotary encoder/vfo knob making it easier to change frequency. Also it is far more ergonomic and slightly smaller(Better for these piano/pen pushers little fingers). My favourite hand held radio is by far the Yaesu FT 60.
Thnx Fred...poxy weather this weekend...stay safe mate.....Bob
The UV-5R can operate on the marine band 156.000 and down. Example 156.800 is Channel 16 ... and it works!!
Richard Millican Yes, i agree. Got a lot fun at the Eastsea on 156.800 in my holidays. Greetings from south Germany.
I have just bought a UV-5R and waiting for it to arrive. I live in North Wales by the sea and co-own a boat. I bought this as it will do the PMR bands for the obligatory lads road trip (post lockdown), the Cambrian Rally and Wales Rally GB (radios are brilliant when in a forest with extremely patchy phone signal) and as good back up of the marine radios.
We have a fixed VHF, an Icom waterproof handheld and this will make a good additional backup which obviously does multiple bands.
I can't believe I can an all in one radio that can do PMR for talking with the lads on a road trip or quad biking. To listening to what ever traffic is on the marine band and also taking it to Mach loop and listening to Valley ATC and aircraft flying through LFA 7.
I'm like a child on christmas and cannot wait for it to arrive so I can program it and start listening.
Great Job! Thank You so much. I have 4 UV-5's, but I could never get them programmed. Now I know how.
Dead easy in Chirp Larry.
got my UV5R3 arriving tomorrow, can't wait to start using it. thanks for the video :)
Did u get all channel on your UV5R 3
brilliant nice and straightforward thank you.
You're welcome!
Fred, Think you forgot to mention that you should also change the mode against each channel to NFM (Narrow FM - basically 12.5khz bandwidth) to align with PMR standard channels. If you leave this unchanged then it will set 25khz bandwidth which doesn't work as well if talking to regular PMR radios.
Yes good point paul.
Done a few of the waterproof ones with the marine channels, you can also lock the tx range down to prevent some of the issues you mention. GT3TP was probably the better one, but not as profitable for the makers so you dont see as many as the 5r. On full power my GT3 will ping a repeater 20km away, thats from inside the house on the supplied rubber duck. Awesome bit of kit for the money.
Thank You Fred. I always enjoy your videos
great little radio
Amazing fro £20 or less even if used only as a high powered PMR
Just found out about these radios and how they work. Quite interesting. Bought a uv5r. Any pointers would be great. Scanning frequencies how and why using a repeater thx
I normally do a mem preset scan or just start it scanning at a set freq and let it go. I would set the squelch at its lowest setting.
Hi friend, I could ask you a question... I just bought the baofeng uv-s9 plus and wanted to know if the configuration is equal to the uv-5r. They're very similar teams.
Greetings and thanks
I think they work the same but the S9 has more transmit power.
Baofengs are amazing for what they are have you seen the uv25
Oops iv been using 15 watts on PMR446on my hand held for years 😬 never had one problem on the dark side of the moon.
Dr Gunsmith I like the dark side of the 🌒
Most Chinese handheld radios dont output anywhere near what they claim! you may find that your 15 watts is infact more like 12! or even less with some radios that are advertised as being 15w. although even that is considerably more than the 500mw thats legally permitted on 446 of course lol. if it bothers you your radio does have an option to reduce the RF output! but unless your talking to somebody else who also has a high powered radio there is very little advantage in using more than 500mw anyway! because although they will be able to hear you, its unlikely you will be able to hear them! something most people fail to consider. (unless they are on a high point) one of the very few that puts out what it claims to is the Quansheng TG-UV2 Plus which I would highly recommend.
Just program those factory default frequencies into your scanner seems to be quite busy - some people on chl 10 as I type this ...
i thanks for videos uploaded, i would like to find my local frequencys im in the south yorkshire area (any for now)
I've recently been intrigued in Amateur Radio recently but it is a bad year to do so as lockdown. So can't get hands on training. I might get a radio to learn on with NO transmitting, just listening.
It seems that these radios have a lot of bad and good reviews. What would be the best Baofeng for the widest frequency range and power output under 10w?
Hi James. I would look at the UV5R as its the most common used and is cheap. Just be aware that there are a lot of clones very cheap on Ebay so do a little research.
Is that not also the problem with the sending wattage, becourse the baofeng have 5 or so wattage and the allowed free pmr radios max 500mw or so 🤔
down loaded chirp but cable wont connect to my computer has windows 7 says no port no software have tried many times many different ways so i guess i will try it by hand even though i have no clue, if it had an engine i would no problem
Sorry complete newb here, I got 2 radios yesterday, so what is the advantage of reprogramming? In layman’s terms
Mostly to be safe when transmitting so you know what frequencies the radios are tuned to.
I have a boafeng 5r I bought the OFFCOM light licence for 5 years. I don't own computer. Does anyone offer the Chirp programming service
Hi Chris. You can program the radio memory via the radio keyboard.
I’ve just spent 3 hours trying to program mine like this but just won’t have it for love nor money? Keeps saying my drivers a Beta trial version do I want t proceed so press yes carry on I can highlight and copy but then when I go back into chirp it won’t paste? Also my baeofeng model isn’t listed in the drop down menu of models it’s a uv-s9 model which isn’t listed? Had to give up in the end 😞
Yes it can be mind numbing
@@CB-RADIO-UK I had a driver disc come with the cable not sure if I need to install that or not? Really not sure why my radio model isn’t listed in that drop down menu eighther? Is there a scanner you can buy that’s already programmed with air band and marine band Fred?
Good advice mate.
Thanks mate. Hope all ok your way.
Hi Fred
I’ve recently purchased a Baofeng UV5R III and have programmed it in line with your video. Being a complete novice I am finding it difficult to understand how I should be using it. I uploaded the 16 frequencies/channels as PMR446.
One of the uses I would like to be able to do is listen to the Control Tower at Biggin Hill on 134.80 but find the lowest frequency on my radio is 136.025 and nothing lower than that can be programmed in. why is that please?
Hi as far as iam aware the UV5R will only cover 136- 174 MHz which covers the 2m ham band.
Use chirp to access the lower bands
So I ordered 2 of the boafeng 888s radios and I heard they are illegal in the uk but after I change the frequencies can I use them with my friend we got them to use when we go to paint hall and stuff do you think that’s ok as long as we don’t use them at a public event
Hi. Re program them for the 16 legal PMR channels and you will be fine. They look just like legal radios. I cannot see you having trouble.
hello Fred. how's tricks? I hear from my man George the DONaldson that my custom face plate for my cobra 148. GTL DX is in your very safe hands🌚👍 can't wait to get her home. love your videos man.
Hi Ian. I think you may be getting me confused with another Fred that George knows who makes face plates. He a good man George and i will be making a video about his Jumbo build soon so look out for that. All the best.
Oh. Sorry bruva. That jumbo of Georges is beautiful isn't it. He's narf put some hours into that. Can't wait to get my cobra back to get back on. I really want to start a premiere league football chat Chanel. (Match of the day on a Saturday) a few of my mates are up for it. Happy Sunday mate. Off to a car boot sale. Hackney.
thank you
What apens when upload to radio is greyed out ?
Could be a USB issue. Some leads simple do not work.
Iv quite a few baofeng radios, super value for money but is it not illegal to use them as PMR radios as they put out too much power, not that the police are gonna kick down your front door mind but Fred your video is trying to keep us out of trouble..
Thats right. You should be ok using these unless you walk around at a very public advent where you might be stopped by the police but that could be the same for legal PMR these days.
@@CB-RADIO-UK In all the years I've been playing with radios I've been stopped only once by Police. It was the late 70s and I was using Pye Pocketfones (Google lol) converted to ham 70cms. The problem was the Police were changing over to, I think, Berndept sets but were still using Pocketfones too. Oooops! Once I explained I was a licenced ham and the radios were not on their frequency and legally purchased they were cool and let me go on my way. It was an er... interesting encounter haha :) 73 mate.
Fred, Enjoyed your videos immensley. However I would like some advice being a complete novice with these radios. Bought 4x baofeng BT1 for family use & have configured the PMR channels 1-16. To keep the conversations only between these 4 radios on a particular channel do I need to enable CTCSS or DCS or other ?
Hi Andrew. TBH iam not sure.
I recently copied a station in France from Kent on CH 8 PMR!
Wow nice one indeed
@@CB-RADIO-UK it certainly surprised me and it happened again more recently with the same French station
Hi guys , do you have to know all about electronics and all that techy stuff to get foundation licence ? that's the only worrying part that's stopping me going for it because my brain goes to mush when that stuff comes up , eternally grateful for any help .
Hi James. I would recommend getting this book. www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Manual/dp/1910193631/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1686674366&sr=8-1
Hi Fred What’s the difference between the uv 5r and the uv 5re i have the UV5RE having a bit of trouble programming it anything you can help me with, I’m new to your channel and like the way you explain things Thank you Don
Iam not up to date with handhelds but it looks like a filmware update. See here. ham.stackexchange.com/questions/2075/difference-between-boefeng-uv-5re-plus-and-uv-5#:~:text=Really%20the%20UV%2D5RE%20is,variant%20of%20the%20UV%2D5R.&text=But%20it%20is%20still%20a%20great%20reference.&text=The%20main%20differences%20with%20these,as%20you%20power%20it%20on.
Thank you i really appreciate it..
I have a pair of Baofeng UV-5Riii radios to use as walkie talkies with my partner. I programmed them exactly as advised here but when we set to the same channel and use PTT we can't hear anything. They don't seem to be receiving.
You may have the digital privacy codes switched on to different settings. They will need to match or be switched off.
Hello Fred, thanks for your interesting videos.
You might be able to help me customizing a Baofeng BF-U9 to match PMR.
I got the specific USB-Serial cable and already tried Chirp. Unfortunately
the BF-U9 is not on the list of supported devices - and attempts to modify
fail (I tried all Baofeng types and all fail with various error messages)
Do you have any idea which software might work ?
(Retevis RT16 doesn't do the jpb either)
Search the Baofeng web page fr support as you might be able to download their program software. As the U9 is a new model it may take a while for it to be added to Chirp.
Asking Baofeng was my idea as well, but I have not received a reply so far.
Hope they can provide the required SW (as the radio and the cable are available on the market).
On Baofeng support pages I found an open ticket: “New Model #8263”
asking to add BF-U9 (and variants) to the supported devices.
It appears as if someone is working on it. Let's cross our fingers ...
Hi. Thanks for useful info. I'm considering getting UV-5R. I'm a complete newbie. As I understand it, one does not need a license to listen. But do I need a license to be able to speak?
Hi. If you transmit on any of the Ham bands you need a license. People mostly use them as a scanner and only transmit on the 16 channel PMR 446 band. This is license free BUT the UV5R is not type approved for the PMR band.
@@CB-RADIO-UK Thanks! So there are bands and frequencies that you don’t require license to transmit? Is there a video “for dummies” that explains the regulation in Britain? Whether there are frequencies where one can transmit without license? And, if a license is a must, what type of license and what’s the process of getting it?
Say, me a friends are playing strikeball or paintball - and we have a bunch of Baofengs and we decide on a particular frequency where our squad communicates (so that the enemy/other-team can’t know what we’re planning) , do we need a licence to transmit ? Or are there some frequencies (other than ch.16 on vhf) where one doesn’t need a license?
Is there any device out there to listen in on uk police? Thanks
No they are all digital and blocked now.
@@CB-RADIO-UK tetra is quite easy to de-modulate, there encrypted, thats the issue. Same thing with apco in the us, except encryption is not as widely used especially not in larger cities.
If I program to pmr can I still scan the frequencies I am not permitted to broadcast on ? I’m a complete noob lol
Yes you can do a freq scan like a normal FM radio. Cheers.
Fred in the Shed thanks for the reply Fred 👍
I have some toy walkie talkies. Their signal get's blocked once you crest the slightest hill. Are there any free to use radios that have at least some way of being usable in terrain?
I'm looking for something that's at least somewhat usable on an indie movie production where there will not only be thick walls (think castle) and houses between two crews but at times also a kilometre of terrain between a scouting team and the base.
Plenty of legal 446 MHz Ch 1-16 PMR radios. They are only 0.5 watts though.
That's the problem I have with these. They are PMR. Here in Germany you are allowed to use up to 4W radios without a license but I can't really find any radios around that range.
@@DesertCookie uv5r would be fine
Are the PMR446 frequencies simply legal simplex channels? Sorry if that's a stupid question. Just starting out.
Yes they are single transmit and receive channels.
@@CB-RADIO-UK Thanks so much. Very helpful video. I shall continue to familiarise myself with all the terms!
Had the baofeng uv-5r for about a year now & have NEVER heard anything on it
Just set it to its widest freq scan and leave it with the squelch on 2. You should get something during the day.
What about the walkie talkies Fred are they OK out of the box? Also could you plug in your antenna the antron etc..
The standard 446 PMR radios that you buy are all ok. Its just the Baofengs and other china radios you need to re programme. The Antron is tuned for the 27 Mhz 11 meter band so the SWR would be totally screwed on 446 Mhz. Mind you having said that ive never tried it. :-)
@@CB-RADIO-UK thanks Fred. Seen those measuring tape ariels for them fold up job looks great...
Chirp won't load onto Macs?
Hi, I am going to reprogram Baofeng to PMR446. Is any point to buy longer(better gain) antenna? Will it increase range by any chance?
It does help range. Ive done a few test videos if you look back through the channel
@@CB-RADIO-UK Thank you.
@@CB-RADIO-UK I thought the Beofengs were overpowered for PMR use? To make them a bit more legal wouldn't it be safer to get a shorter (worse) antenna?
Less range but less chance of getting unwanted attention.
Hi Dude, i have a question :) Im playing Airsoft with 4 of my friends and we have considered buying baofeng radios to communicate, but Can we talk together all 4 of us?
Edit: and if possible wich one should we buy?
Hi. Yes. You will need to re-program all four radios to the 8 (or 16) 446 PMR band. Then they will all be on the same channels. You can then talk to your mates one at a time though not all at once like team speak.. Value wise the UV5R radio cannot be beaten.
@@CB-RADIO-UK thx mate :) Do you have a vid on how to reprogram the radio to talk to more people? It’s not my streng side i must admit 😅
@@CB-RADIO-UK and do you know a radio where you Can do “teamspeak” thats still not too expensive?
@@madsjensen5737 you can do team speak you just all go on the same frequency and take turns when talking.
@@mickeymouse5448 better late than never ;) thanks bro
Right on Fred. Chirp puts the blinders. On that horse. Too bad a second disc couldn't be given to club Elmer's. Set your favorites, and the rig gets locked In selected band. (Out of officer territory) and disc stored away at the club or sent to your equivalent if the FCC. under your name./ with the serial number of your rig. Game over. only the beuro knows the key . least the govt will know. You can't be a claim jumper. Hi hi De kv4li 73
I’ve had one almost a week and I’ve heard nothibg
:-(
To make you aware that if you use them on pmr 446 you are actually breaking the rules of pmr 446 as 1 thay have an antenna that you can remove, and 2 their transmit power is way above the legal power for pmr 446 so just don't do it your better off just buying pmr 446 radios and thay are not that expensive
Im looking at one of these radios for when at airsoft events. A lot of people use legal power radios ( myself included) but often struggle across the large site due to terrain. Those using uv5r and similar have no such issues. Yes this may not comply with the law/rules but are they doing any real harm?
If we reprogame it and put jn legal frequency, can we still scan ham frequencies and listen to them? And also we can still program one channel for it to communicate with baofeng 888s?
Yes you can listen to as many HAM freqs as you like but dont transmit. If the 888 is programmed for PMR channels then this radio can match it.
@@CB-RADIO-UK thank you for the reply. Am gonna recieve my UV82 in few days. What I thought is to program one channel as per the 888s that I have. So can I start communicating with only that channel number assigned without re programming the entire set to pmr?
Hi. Yes you can do that. Only prob will be if that channel is busy.
Can this be programmed without a computer? I really want a radio 🤣 and can I just keep it as it is if I only want to listen? Or will they still know I'm on their channels?
Hi. No listening is fine and no one will know your there.
Perfect so when I get it can it just be used straight away? Without having to do anything?
Tee-hee-hee, that's answered my question is also 🙊
Hi Fred
Can I ask a question regarding the Baofang 5rv? The charger I have has a usb so Imwas wondering if I can use a mains mobile phone charger?
Thanks
Hi. As long as your charger is 5 volt it should be ok.
Fred in the Shed is that the radio charger or phone charger? Sorry if that’s a stupid question, bit of a novice!
Fred in the Shed is that the radio charger or phone charger? Sorry if that’s a stupid question, bit of a novice!
Hi. Any charger should be fine as long as it outputs 5 volts dc. ( It will say on a sticker on the charger). This is because USB runs on 5 volts.
Just got a couple of 888s and ordered the cable separately. Installed the drivers from the supplied disk (Windows10) then I downloaded the latest Baofeng software from: www.baofengradio.co.uk/software/
Very easy to do and setup was done in 5mins.
This is far different then the us. In the states this service is referred to as GMRS/FRS, 446 MHz is dolled out to amateur use, the american GMRS band is allocated @ 462 MHz and 467 for repeater inputs only. This is just incase any people from the us see this, its the same principal for FRS and PMR just different allocations and PMR does not have the same repeater allocations or licensed option to use said repeaters and more then 2 watts. The us also has the multi use radio service and theres some controversy over the uk vhf equivalent. The uk is so close quarters compared to the us, so thats why u have things like exclusion zones in the uk where as in the us you probably could not even drive into the exclusion zone at a place like the VLA because its a desert and under military control. The uk police and such are almost entirely terrestrial trunked or tetra radio systems, which is digital but also encrypted entirely. The united states use APCO p25 trunking and conventional systems. They are easy to decode but can also run encryption. It is not as common in the us to encrypt but there are entire statewide systems that are. Theres also many police agencies in the us that are analog, either on a trunked or conventional system. My best advice to a person who wants to listen out for things is to buy a scanner. You will never be able to listen to trunked systems the correct way with a transceiver because it can not follow the trunking controller unless it has the system key, which a scanner can bypass with its own computer aided method. Good day!
Every amateur radio guy on YT says, the cheap baofeng brake if the fall on concrete and the tone quality is not good, also the antennas.
I think most radios might break if dropped on solid concrete. The genuine 5R's are built pretty strong.
@@CB-RADIO-UK thanks for the answer 🙂
How can I get a genuine baofeng radio, thar are so many 🤔
You could change the channels manually right?
Yes you can program then via the keyboard but t does take a while.
yep
have u tried a baofeng with a tiger/rats tail fred ? your analysis/results have more crediblity :)
No not myself. iam prob going to do some more testing later in the year.
You call that camping when you have security walking around HAHA CAMPING 🏕️ is stars and koalas
I knew it ..if you want the info without the bullocks... go and see Fred in the shed😎
How do you get your own private station?
You could tune just above channel 16 on the 446 PMR band. However you would need to be careful
@@CB-RADIO-UK be careful of
@@craigr7262 Inter interfering with another freq like security radio.
Never heard of the ham police arresting anyone for using a baofeng radio.
I think you run a risk at a public event nowadays with security on high. Esp if you interfere with comms
@@CB-RADIO-UK No one care's
These radios are only legal if used by Hams or private licensed PMR users. You'd probably be fine on PMR446 although its not legal and if caught using PMR446 on these radios you'd end up in court and Ofcom will fine you and take your radios but not likely to happen unless your unlucky. The legal requirements for PMR446 is a non removable antenna and 500mW RF. I'd not put the LPD frequencies in as these radios are high powered and you'd be interfering with the 70cms ham band which is also used by the M.O.D The LPD legal requirements are 10mW with a fixed antenna. I do wonder how many people buy these radios and use them straight out of the box on any frequency. Many users today within the range that theses Baofeng radios can do all use Digital modes now DMR. There are only a small handful of analog users around.
Also Emergency services are using Tetra networks now so they can't be listened too. Great little radios, they are as wide as a barn door and don't have any band filtering in them but great for the price. I'd encourage those who are interested in radio to take the foundation course witch is FREE and if you pass, you get a license to use the Ham bands www.essexham.co.uk/baofeng-radio-without-licence
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