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Notice how he said he was embarrassed and not ashamed? Embarrassment is a social construct while shame comes from one's conscience. In other words he only feels bad about it because other people judge him poorly.
To be fair, shame also comes sometimes from societal judgement and can even be misplaced. BUT, the point still stands in that embarrassment is PURELY from how you're viewed by other people while shame is what he'd be feeling if he did feel any actual regret.
Daniella Monet mentioned that she was uncomfortable with the pickle and gloss scene in the Kesha episode of Victorious and was told she still had to film it
@exlline I’m sure Dan felt more comfortable exploiting and taking advantage of her b/c she was the oldest on Victorious. She was around 20 or 21 on the show and no longer and minor. Still no excuse for what he did to her, but that’s sadly my theory.
Funny enough, Boogie/Tebo here was on iCarly. He wasn’t a lead character at all. He didn’t bring this up at all when Dan failed to talk about the two black actors who spoke on their negative experience. Dan straight up lied saying EVERY show had a lead black actor, because no iCarly did not. Neither did Drake and Josh. The black actors in those shows worked at The movie theater and the smoothie shop. They were not lead characters. We saw them once in a while.
I am assuming the comments are turned off on his video bc this is the most unapologetic apology video I have ever scene. He displaces blame, avoids actually answering the question and the interviewer has zero follow up. Clearly staged, as you pointed out. If his comments are still open i will go leave a real nice one. Ty Swoop as always for the work you do in bringing light to these issues. Keep it up girl!
Dan’s apology was BS. He’s trying to save his arse. To have him interviewed by a blk man who worked with him was on purpose. A proper apology would’ve been to reach out to everyone but he won’t do that because he is a victim now 🙄 He created a toxic work environment & is being exposed.
The way he says “You know me” as well as “a lot of people would want to work with me again” as well as having Tebo say “you’ve had a lot of success over the years” these are all buffers for him about to not answer the question or give any real acknowledgment to the specific allegations. And it’s like he didn’t watch the full doc because he says “IF anyone had said anything” but in Quiet on Set they talk about the times they did say something and he would literally yell at them, pressure them and make them do it anyway!
I was in rehab with Dan's sister whom i will keep private to protect her. In rehab she was there a month and ended up flirting, cuddling and daring more than five men. Although discouraged, she ignored the rules. She was beautiful, petite and comical. When she explained who her brother was i simply thought, know wonder you may be struggling. Hers was cocaine, and heroin. I remember leaving treatment and thought to myself she will be back. Just by watching her sexual behavior, even flirtatious with women if she got her way. I couldn't believe all the men she held hands with, cuddled with until caught and the females she took advantage of because they adored her pretty face, fake shyness, and humor. Even i myself found myself chuckling at her. Please know that i bring this up because it just dawned on me to do the math, study what i witnessed and her family visits were kinda like (I'm a star) more like her brother. So we did bond prior to me realizing who Dan was, she was indeed already an entertainer and used it to her benefit. Im still in recovery and curious how she's doing today. I may do some probing. That's my story. My husband is a touring musician so for me, its hard to find time to further investigate, and how would it help anyone anyway? I pray she rose above the neglect, or whatever it is that burdened her heart and who got her hooked on drugs??? Thank you for exploiting these leaches and sometimes it hits close to home! 😢🤔😵💫🤨🤡🤬🙏🏼✌🏻
Anytime someone uses may or if in their apology, they’re not apologizing, they’re deflecting. “If I made anyone uncomfortable” “Any discomfort I may have caused” Sir, there is no may or if. The doc called you out. You DID make people uncomfortable and caused real harm. Dude is deflecting in the most politician speech writer way!
And the crimes were inspired by John Wayne Gacey’s crimes and they knew the DETAILS of that abuse and pondered what the victim might have done to TEMPT peck into doing those things
Absolutely. The fact that several of them wrote letters which included lines about how Brian must have been "tempted" by this minor shows exactly the kind of people they are.
It's also worth noting that at least in Rocko, it's animated. No teenager in a compromising position said those lines. It was a man in his 30s (now 60s) who voice acted Rocko.
It's a little better that there weren't children directly involved. However it was on a children's network to be viewed by children which is not okay either
There was also the “Carpet Munchers” scene in Cow & Chicken 😮💨 I didn’t know what that meant at the time but that was the quickest I’ve ever seen my moms mouth drop.
@@Koley411 There are always going to be jokes in kids shows that deliberately go way over the kids heads. No kid will know what the joke in Rocko's Modern Life is until they're much older. These, when done correctly and tactfully, will get the parents watching the show with their children to laugh and enjoy the show more, and do no harm to the children watching. Rocko's was fine because it was a joke made by adults for adults with only adults involved in making it, deliberately tame enough to not lose the children for too long. The problem with the "jokes" that Dan made was they were sexual jokes made using child actors. Their main purpose was gratifying content for Dan with enough plausible deniability to make it onto air.
It’s not an interview, it’s another thing written & produced by Dan. If he wanted to do an unbiased interview responding to ALL the accusations rather than cherry picking the least offensive ones- he’d have agreed to be interviewed for quiet on set.
A very important point needs to be made. Nickelodeon has been getting a ton of blowback over these revelations, all of it deserved. But this isn't a Nickelodeon problem, it's an industry problem. As long as young kids desperate for stardom are in the media industry, it'll be so easy for adults to abuse/manipulate/take advantage of them that serious oversight and vigilance are going to be required to protect them. Without major reforms in how the industry operates, nothing's going to stop the next Dan Schneider from wrecking lives.
It's not just legacy media industries -- wait till all the children exploited by their parents for content on RUclips become mid 20 to mid 30 year old train wrecks!
I’ve never judged Disney or Nickelodeon actors for when they act out & seemingly have a “psychotic break” because the reality is that it’s literally their only way out. I hope that they can heal as much as they possibly can. It’s just so heartbreaking what they went through just to bring us some joy & smiles.
I’m a believer in Disney kids in particular acting out in order to get released from their contracts. Probably not the ones having psychiatric issues, but the ones who “go off the rails”, I can understand how you can be pushed to do whatever you can to get out of contract hell.
@ellaholland3675 I didn’t really judge them either, especially the ones I did grow up liking and watching. And for the ones I didn’t grow up watching because I outgrew the network, I just never really paid attention to them.
"my bosses never said my actions were wrong! I even personally asked Harvey Weinstein and he was never offended by the acts I had these child actresses do on screen."
18:50 my favorite part is when Dan says "I don't mean to cut you off" after the guy had already finished talking. For two people who work in T.V they are really bad at acting and directing this.
@olliebollieboy In part 5 of Quiet on Set, Brian and Giovanna from All That were asked about his “apology”. They both smirked and smiled as a way to imply that they think his apology was BULLSHIT (they used polite words).
"It wasn't a different time. It was just easier to get away with it." YES THANK YOU. That excuse always makes me so mad espically when it comes from people who were grown ass adults during that "different time." They were the ones making that "different time" that way.
Like I’m supposed to believe the children of 10/20 years ago, the children of any amount of time ago, were somehow less human or less children. Regardless of cultural differences in what “a childhood” looks like, humans all have basically the same developmental stages where we move through time and do all the physical chemical stuff, like, pretty damn sure those kids from the past were in fact literally just kids.
No Twitter and social media was nowhere near as big or weaponized. Not everyone had phone cameras or recorders. It was definitely easier to get away with it. To accuse someone of status you could be shut down easily.
I love how Boogie keeps saying thing about like “I’m going to ask you to elaborate” and “I’m gonna push back a little” so they can pretend this is a hard-hitting interview where the questions weren’t at all curated by Dan so he could push a specific narrative
it didn’t with me i got out right inuendoes and i though the shows were disgusting and never watched them my self even my mom though they were creepy and told me not to watch them 😅 so not everyone missed the ick known as dan
I mean, kids shouldn't know anything about sex or kinks at that age, so it's not a surprise. A cigar can either look like a cigar or a guy part depending on the mind.
I didn't think about it at all when I was a kid. I was way more naive and had less access to things than my teens do now. Now that I'm rewatching with my kids, I'm like, "I can't believe my parents let us watch this!" According to them, it was a little innuendo for the adults too. Which, now, just knowing it was way more than that..😓😮💨
Knowing what we know about abuse in Hollywood, look at child actors like Amanda Bynes, Cory Feldman, Lindsay Lohan, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, etc. Are we really that surprised these people grow up to be absolute trainwrecks? Its a clear sign of trauma.
@@jennaharrison3163So you're mad that people are outraged about childhood sexual abuse? Sounds kinda sus.... Until the system changes, we as a community need to keep our voices loud and keep shouting it until Hollywood realizes it's not ok to SA little kids.
true. Before I was like "I don't like Miley. I don't like Ariana" and while yes they still have accountability over their actions... a lot of them have trauma that they have not fully dealt with yet. Yeah some of them have "f you money" and can get therapy for these things, but it's like... it shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's like having a shirt and it getting stained. Of course you can get a stain remover or buy a new one, but that's extra steps to something that could've simply not happened if things were better. In this case it's not just accidentally spilling something on yourself, but the neglect of adults in the room and of course the awful audacity of the predators doing these actions. I still don't like many celebrities because some actions, while correlated with trauma are still awful and any child can tell you it's wrong even if you have a troubled past (plus my opinion is my opinion. Ariana isn't losing on millions because one unemployed person dislikes her). But I wish them all the best with healing.
27:23 “because kids thought they were funny” …no Dan. Kids did not think they were funny. They did not understand those “jokes”. It was you. You thought it was funny.
I think a full deep dive of nickelodeon would be a great way to maybe help parents and or kids really think about, do research for, or just be an eye opener to the signs, etc to help prevent future abuse
&Deep Dive on Disney too and it's possible suspicious and terrible connections w/ Nickelodeon and possibly.....even Epstein &other Hollywood+more Elite terrible peeps....just saying 🤔🧐🔍🔍👀👀 Our Madame Swoop is gonna start seriously exposing these creeps for their webs on lies and abuse and I'm ALL HERE FOR IT🩵💜 We all better be getting ready for this🍿🫖😈
I'm 44 and an only child, so I had phased out of Nickelodeon by the time the Schneider-verse took over. Watching these docuseries, I can't believe what he was able to get away with, both on and off screen, and I wish nothing but the worst for him and his clique.
I’m GenX so also too old to have watched this but what I couldn’t figure out was WHY I knew his face when this all started unraveling. Turns out I remember him in 1985’s “Better off Dead” where a foreign exchange student stays at his house while he creeps on her. That’s it - that’s the whole character - but he was so boundary crossing creepy his face stayed in my head for 40 years.
Nah, I'm 43 and the boy meets world cast is enough of a cross over for me. Then we think of the other things that came out about our generations tv shows. Cosby show to name one as an example. So i wouldn't be surprised if we hear more family geared shows like that were toxic...
He says he always thinks about calling them but in REALITY what he did was have people hunt down Alexa Nikolas for over a year to con & scare her into signing an NDA. So that’s what he DID do versus what he sometimes thought about doing.
@@JennifuhhGilardidon’t listen to this person, they are a troll. They are also going around claiming Alexa Nikolas is friends with Colleen Ballinger too.
İnteresting to see how we see Jerry Trainor always tried to put distance between the young actors and Dan and in contrast Boogie who is defending Dan til the end
I'm a former child actor. Older than these kids, I wasn't on Nickelodeon, but I can tell you this abuse started with the very first child actor Jackie Coogan, and has gone through pretty much all of us for over a hundred years ago down to today. I didn't want to be an actor, and repeatedly told people that, and they didn't care. Also, I WILL criticise Dan -- his solution is to make it clear to children that they might be working around predators and will possibly be assaulted, are the fine with that? Just sign the dotted line. I have a huge problem with his closing statement.
People always seem to forget Corey Feldman. He was talking about how Hollywood is full of perverts around children from the 1980s. He was sort of listened to and then shoved to the side. Now it looks as if a younger generation is bringing up the same issues.
@@lpgilber I am the same generation as Corey Feldman, and we crossed paths once or twice (I did not work with him, or know him well). We worked in same environment, and we saw and dealt with the same things. Trust me, I don't ever forget about him. These problems have been going on for over a hundred years.
The worst part is that he had, as Swoop says, "the sugar-free, gluten-free audacity" to deny so many of these claims from the docuseries. He flat out denied forcing his female workers to split a paycheck, that he would harass his female staff with firing if they didn't do what he demanded, the threatening of his female employee when she told her rep that she was forced to split her paycheck, etc. He doesn't feel sorry for his behavior or he wouldn't have denied it even now.
One thing I felt about this "interview" is thar Boogie wasn't a child actor at the time. That felt a bit weird for me, since he probably experienced situations different if he was older. So his reassuring that he didn't feel anything was wrong is a bit misaligned and not at impactful as Dan would like.
IMO, He was FORCED to do the Interview, I believe he said No to doing this Multiple times before getting a Big Bribe he couldn't Refuse, It's Also Scripted so we don't know if he actually thinks what he's saying.
@@Suarez05he may have had his career threatened or been paid off, but I don't know how much that absolves him. I wonder if he felt sick to his stomach at all when they talked about the people in the courtroom, because he might as well be one of them.
@Suarez05 I was thinking the same thing. Especially around the 38 minute mark, when he had said he won't speak on another's journey, and he seemed sincere. Then he did speak on it. I wonder if that was one of his ways of trying to say this isn't his opinion? I can't say for sure, but that part felt off in general.
18:11 Something that Swoop didn’t specifically point out was when Dan said he was ‘sorry for anyone who witnessed the massages (that he may have made uncomfortable)’. This screams of Dan further denying/diluting any wrong doing by saying ‘Hey- there were all these other people. No one ever said anything about children and employees touching me. It can’t have been that bad, really, if at worst maybe a bystander was a little uncomfortable. It really isn’t a big deal because nobody did anything about it.’
Good catch … like the discomfort of those massaging him don’t matter and if he did nothing wrong Also with him saying that this way he is able to turn this around any time and put the blame on these bystanders like „if they felt uncomfortable then they are the people thinking bad things“
he clearly downplays the POWER he had in and over these people's lives. Like Jennette McCurdy was supporting her whole extended family through her acting, of course she isn't going to stand up for herself.
I live in Florida. And will at a mall I was told to put in an application for Nik and Disney bc they were looking for ful figured girls for parts". We took all the info and went home. I was so excited about it. But my Meme(grandmother) told me Lynn think about the shows you've seen. What do you think they will have you do. You will be the but of all the jokes with no guarantee they will do anything else or put you in anything worthwhile. I cried so much bc I couldn't do it without my families approval. As a child, it hurt. Now I'm beyond thankful she saw what I couldn't. My daughter was doing oadgents in the local malls just for fun. She was a pretty blonde hair blue eyed slim child 3yrs old. The Disney ppl were there and tried to get me to sign her for ads and possibly a show. When I asked if my mixed daughters 8&13 could apply as well. They said sure but just know we are looking for a very particular type and age. They didn't deny them but I just got a icky feeling. And walked away. Best thing I could have done.
This interview was one of the most narcissistic things I've ever seen and Boogie should feel ashamed of himself as well. I like to take time to process my initial feelings but every time I see this interview I feel exactly the same way. It was not a interview. Thank you for making that clear Swoop! Children are gifts and are not content or entertainment. They are human beings who should be treated with kindness and respect. The adults that we seen now from these trial stars are the proof and evidence of decades of mistreatment and abuse by these people and entities they hide behind to protect their dollars.
Dan putting it out there that Drake’s mother went to him (even if true) and essentially taking credit for her speech in court just makes my skin crawl. He’s looking for a pat on the back after he ENABLED the situation that caused Drake to be harmed. And him being fake emotional over it like it happened to him? I F*CKING CAN’T.
Until now, my ADHD brain had not registered that the reason I kept seeing Swoop in different hair colors was because she had a different color for each channel. My brain just accepted the hair color change without questioning it. Also, she looks great in both colors. :)
Omg yes, he also reviewed almost all of the nickelodeon shows in hours and hours of videos! He knows all of the shows "dramas" and behind the scenes, and I would honestly be ready to pay to see a collab with swoop on the dark sides of nickelodeon
I remember when iCarly and such aired and I was of that age, but I remember it giving me an ick factor that i couldn't put my finger on at the time. I felt like the girls weren't relatable and were written to be oblivious to sexual references. Took me a while to realize why I felt that way; creepy men were entertaining themselves.
I did watch iCarly, Victorious and Drake and Josh when I was a kid and I grew out of them around 2012/2013 and I probably did notice how unusually overemphasised feet was used in those shows but I didn't know what to make of it back then or it just didn't seem like that big of a deal at the time. But now after seeing some of the articles related to Schneider and the Quiet On Set docuseries I now view scenes like the toe archery bit as just unnerving and gross. Sure, I did enjoy the shows growing up, enjoyed and still like certain stand out moments and the songs were bops but even then it's a bit tough separating the art from the artist in this case when said artist has a disturbing foot obsession and is that volatile towards other crew members and child stars. Also that whole "interview" between Dan and Boogie is just boiling my blood because not only was there zero guilt or remorse or accountability coming out of Dan's mouth but it just feels like an artifical landmine of gaslighting and ego fluffing. Sorry I just had to get that out of my system.
Tbh when Dan said “and I want to talk to them and apologise”, it made my skin crawl. I want my voice heard and story told, but don’t want to lend my voice and story to the abuser.
Interested to see Swoop's take all this. I think generally a very important thing to remember about this sus-pool is that Dan Schneider is definitely sus and also likely a scapegoat for Nickelodeon and honestly the film industry's constant failure to protect and care for the children working for them. The rich and powerful love selling the story of just one or a few bad eggs.
Absolutely, even without looking into the entertainment industry as a whole, Dan could never have been in his position at Nickelodeon if there weren’t many people approving his work and giving him more power.
Regarding the "people could have spoke up with jokes," that's very hard to argue with children's shows of the era. Animaniacs, Ren and Stimpy, and Rocco's Modern Life writers would basically complete to see what they could get past the censors, and is a large reason why those cartoons are still enjoyable for adults all these years later. One of those shows said "to get a joke you want in, make a joke that's so inappropriate and so when it gets rejected you can propose the joke you actually want." Key word, cartoon, animation, work done 100% by adults, no children were harmed in the making of this program. How many times were there jokes that were "10 steps to far" to be "replaced" with jokes "1 step too far (that was the original joke)?" Chances are, a lot.
It's hard to wrap my head around the fact that a bunch of adults saw the storylines that Dan wrote and how he acted around children and yet no one did a thing. Not a single producer, screenwrter, parent, or others called him out. Proof that love of money is truly the root of all evil.
I agree but things truly were different before me-too movement. No one was scared to get cancelled because getting cancelled wasn’t a thing. It was brazen and public abuse, and it was normalized until very, very recently.
also, you mention other Nickolodeon shows having inappropriate jokes (like the Rocko one), and how dan was sort of implying that his shows were similar to that, but like. nobody on the crew of rocko's modern life was an actual child, or in direct physical contact with dan. while those jokes are still inappropriate in general, it's insane for dan to try to treat what happens on a cartoon to things that are done to children in real life by someone with real power over them. at the end of the day, the wallaby from rocko's modern life doesn't have to carry this trauma for decades afterwards, and it's so gross and disingenuous for dan to treat it otherwise
28:28 This blabbering from Dirty Dan is EXACTLY why we need a deep dive on Nickelodeon behind the scenes. Because he is, unfortunately, right. Which means there’s WAAAAAY more creeps like him, APPROVING THIS STUFF FOR TV! For CHILDREN’S tv, nonetheless!
Dan Hands-off-me-man Schneider is an awful excuse for a human, but I agree with you. Dan is just a scapegoat for other more powerful people. _"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"_
So I was four maybe five when I did a casting for a modeling agency in San Francisco, my mom dad grandma and aunt were with me, there WERE a few celebrities there and one was screech and another actor from saved by the bell, this was late 90s and I liked screech but I wouldn’t talk to look at touch or be around the other male actor from saved by the bell and it cost me the job but I don’t regret it AT ALL my mom and dad knew that I could sense something wasn’t right. Turns out, there was truth in my intuition. Trust your kids, they will know and believe them.
Hollywood historically speaking is horrible to kids teens and talent. Shirley Temple and Judy Garland aren't even the beginning nor are producers like Dan Snider the last of the dark side of Hollywood. The only difference is that this behaviour is being ripped out of the closet and these jerks are finally being shamed and being punished for their actions. Until laws and the rights of those are protected it will still be just hidden and things not talked about. Thanks for the doc. Hopefully, it'll be the start of change to improve.
Yeah, I heard both of their stories on RUclips. It was even more horrific in the 1930s than it was for these Nickelodeon stars. (Not to downplay their trauma, B/c it was horrible either way).
I’m the generation that was sending each other fucking cartel videos as middle schoolers cause we thought it was funny “The kids think it’s funny” is the WORST excuse any adult could make
LOL Swoop, you took the words right out of my mouth. From the moment he opened his mouth all I could think was "Dang Boogie, are you really that hard up for money?"
When the interview came out, I didn’t believe it for a second. So much deflection. So much gaslighting. No accountability. It’s ridiculous how he thought this would clean his rep up.
There is nothing more terrible than watching an abuser use a normal person as their advocate. That the interviewer didn't specifically talk about things Dan did in the writers' room, things that had nothing to do with stress and *everything* with pure sexual harassment and misogyny. And like every abuser that wants to appear benign or blameless, they say *a)*my bosses didn't object and had final authority; *b)* no one stopped me; I didn't think at the time I was doing anything wrong; *e)* other people did worse. Then they focus on how *hurt* they are for being dragged for being an abuser.
This. Also what I feel for people who bring up age of consent laws. The social constructs of laws should not have any impact on it being incredibly abnormal and disturbing to be s3xually attracted to *_children._* I was a Nick era kid, and that “well the law said so it’s fine to depict create and perpetrate this predatory material shrugs that means it’s fine” was _everywhere_ in fanfiction culture in the 2010s. There are so many things so many of us were exposed to as kids that are not okay and were never okay. Because kids grow up and learn that they fundamentally can’t comprehend predation against children as anything but apocalyptic violence against another human being, that can only elicit whatever personal version of divine fury against the perpetrators. The excuses adults made around people who were kids then don’t hold up now that we’re their age. They deserve accountability.
I feel like no one talks about how this dude was an adult actor for Dan, not a child actor, and didn't he also speak with an exaggerated Jamaican accent?
The thing that gets me is that the problem wasn’t that the kids didn’t want to be in television, and by saying he wants a therapist there to make sure the kids really want to be there is blaming the children again for their bad experience, because he’s implying that their trauma is a result of not wanting to be there.
I grew up on so many of these nickelodeon kid shows and although I didn’t understand most of the jokes never knew how bad they were until seeing them again now. The more I hear about the situation with the 3 convicted C predators that worked on many of Dan’s sets/shows, and the whole sh*t fire show that is the Dan situations in general. I want to know how Nickelodeon never saw any of this going on, or saw any warning signs, nor did anything to fix the numerous problems until far too late and so many people were already hurt by them. It all kinda comes back to Nickelodeon to me. If they never hired Dan and possibly the predators (still haven’t seen anything proving weather it was Nickelodeon or Dan who hired them) none of them wouldn’t have gotten the power and potential to cause so much damage and trauma, to so many people throughout their times and it’s just horrible.
Just want to point out that the stuff on “Rocko’s Modern Life” that got through the censors is because at least half or more of the writers for that show learned how to do that from writing for “Ren & Stimpy”.
The facts that the “interview” was about 20 minutes longs just shows nothing serious was questioned pushed or talked about. Each person affected should have received an apology.
I would like to recommend if you do a bigger Nickelodeon doc, looking into the crimes that John .K, the creator of Ren and Stimpy. The darkness around Nick goes deeper than just the live action shows, a lot of their animators have gotten away with doing unspeakable things and I feel like those stories are being over shadowed a little bit.
Im down for you doing a nick deep dive if you are able and willing because I know you would not only be resectful but also shine light on survivors' stories.
This whole Nickelodeon thing has been fascinating. But it's also been frustrating because I know people like Dan, and people who've protected bad people. And those wounds are very fresh. Dan saying "this thing hurt me" was incredibly frustrating.
@@amylee8969always remember… when a kid is first exposed to something, sometimes they don’t have the intelligence to understand their feelings. You simply couldn’t figure out this “weird feeling” was you being uncomfortable. Unfunny was just you not being amused from seeing something so weird.
as a nickelodeon kid who grew up on dan schneider shows, PLEASE definitely do a full deep dive! and honestly.... thinking about it now, i wonder if - similar to shane dawson's content, which "normalized" (but not excused) predatory behavior - some of the kids who grew up on these shows were also primed for that type of creator on youtube. :/
I was a kid when I already felt like Nickelodeon had this inappropriate feeling on it. I don’t know how I could sense that but I did it. So I never watched it especially these sitcoms or irl shows, turns out i wasn’t freaking out and the whole thing was a Dan Schneider issue. My heart goes out to all the victims of this monster💔
Will Friedle said that Brian Peck as 'suffered enough' and Rider said he's worried about the legacy of Boy Meets World. They were in their 20s when they wrote those letters-- and of course Rider suggested they make a documentary of Boy Meets World to get better news and bury the stories of the letters with newer news stories about the show. These men are awful.
@@alyssabrown-carleton6173 I'm not surprised or disappointed because honestly most of Hollywood is disgusting. Rider being most concerned about the legacy of Boy Meets World was ridiculous. BMW was a sitcomised 90s version of The Wonder Years. Middle male child with a brother and sister trying to figure out how the world works as he grows up. The ~legacy~ of Boy Meets World-- a very forgettable sitcom- over the mental health and well-being of a human. Really gross. But I find it awful that Will and Rider spent the entire podcast trying to make it sound like they were the victims and not even apologising for writing the letter. Danielle helped them a lot by insisting they were groomed, making it sound like they were kids when all this happened. Rider was 24. Will was 28 years old. They knew it was involving a child. They sat in that court room and looked that boy in the eyes and still said nothing. I find that really gross that they didn't take accountability and apologise, and just made excuses instead. I find it even worse that a few days later they're like 'hey we are thinking of making a documentary about our show!' knowing that it would push the articles about them writing letters down further because news tends to show what is most recent. Classic techniques to escape accountability and jump over the fence to change the topic before anyone realises it.
@@ArdenBijou Yeah them doing that was like 'oh, okay. So you're just trash people. got it.' And three days later they're making announcements that they want to do a documentary on the show? Come on. We know what you're doing. You're trying to flood the news and chats with more positive news stories so the letter stories get buried. Just say 'we made a massive mistake, a horrific one. We apologised privately to Drake, but here is our public apology, we are so ashamed, this never should have happened, we knew better and we did it anyway. We made the wrong choice, and it destroyed someone, and we have to live with that, we have to carry that because we made the wrong call. We apologise to Drake, and to any other victims who have gone unheard or dis-believed because of our actions. We want to be better allies, and we will try harder.' Instead, 'I think Brian has suffered enough?!' and 'the worst part is how this damages the legacy of our really stupid terrible little cheesy sitcom that ripped off most stories from The Wonder Years.' And Danielle chiming in to repeatedly make it sound like Will and Rider were the victims in all of this was just.. All three of them are awful. They should be ashamed of themselves, they should be disgusted with themselves. Because they are trash.
Will Friedle and Ryder Strong really broke my heart. They did an episode on their podcast talking about it and I do not believe they understand what they did by supporting Brian Peck. That man is a monster and did heinous things to a child. They claim Brian fooled them but, they did not sound genuine in the episode discussing it. It makes me wonder if that is part of why Ben Savage cut ties with them. I can’t listen to their podcast or watch Boy Meets World anymore. They are not the men they seemed to be.
I hope Dan and everyone who protected him, looking at you CEO of Paramount, as well as the parents who purposefully looked away instead of protecting their children - all get charged and serve time and are listed as child predators. ALSO YES PLEASE COVER NICKELODEON IN ITS ENTIRETY! it's so bad and you'd do it with so much respect!
@Emma-CeciliaShahriari More and more people need to continue to protest for that and support these alumni child stars. That’s the only way, they’ll take action and hold him accountable. Obviously the higher authorities won’t take the initiative and do it on their own. 🙄
The apology to people who may have witnessed the massages who may have also felt uncomfortable feels like he's trying to say "other people saw this happening and didn't say anything, so it's not that bad"
I was looking forward to this doc, iCarly and Victorious were part of the childhood of many here and I always found it a bit """"sus"""" not to mention uncomfortable this subject that was the FEET in some episodes, and stopping to review the series, it becomes even stranger to notice that almost NOBODY here in Brazil talked about it.....
The psuedo crying thing...wow. Reminds me of my stepfather who sexually abused me for 8yrs. Yet, everyone fell for his lies. Thankfully I was able to emancipate myself eventually. *sighs* These things have been happening for EONS, to millions of children all over the world. But its famous incidents like this, that bring recognition to the issue. Please, I beg all of you, BELIEVE your children if and when they finally tell you whats happening, or happened. No matter how many years have gone by. Yes, there are a very few who lie about what occured in thier childhood. But MOST of them are desperate and telling the truth. Please, please listen. I am 54 now, and still struggle with what happened to me so long ago. 😢
I'm getting so tired of perpetrators always wanting to come out and "apologize" for harm they cause to others when they get caught. They all think the same way. Oh I got exposed let me try to make things right. Like no! It's too late for that. You had the chance to stop doing what you did and you didn't. It's always the same old thing they do. Deflect, and "apologize" when their caught.
Swoop has opened my eyes so much so that when I see a child on TV I immediately grow concerned. They need to change laws and have some sort of protection service available for these kids.
I definitely think that a Nick breakdown is needed. There's just way too many skeletons in that closet that have been allowed to hang around for far too long. Only if you're able to of course.
The point about having therapists in the hiring process “to make sure they really want to be in this business” feels like weeding out the ones that will talk. Those that really want it will stay quiet to have the career they really want. I think having a therapist available during filming would be better to be a safe place to voice abuse concerns and help get kids help. But in a world where Drake was a jail bate tempter, how could that be successful?
I would love you and your team to do a deep dive on Nickelodeon. I love your videos, you bring awareness to issues that most just turn a blind eye to. I appreciate you and I love petty university!! Keep bringing the videos and never change because you are amazing!!!❤❤
Hello honey, I love the purple hair💜👋 I'm 54 and I have a daughter 35 and a son 25. I have seen many Nickelodeon shows, specials etc. There have been several shows that I thought to myself as long as my child didn't get it I was fine....It also isn't just Nickelodeon, Disney has done it too. So sad really. It's furiating but so sad....
I don't think we just need a Nickelodeon Deep dive and I realize this is going to take you forever but I think we need a deep dive of just child actors
I appreciate you taking the time to point out that Dan is one part of a broader picture. If you're up for it; I think a full dive on Nickelodeon and the abuse of child actors would be a great piece. I worry the bigger fish have let Danny boy be the fall guy so they can continue their own willful ignorance and negligence.
I’m here for you doing a deep dive on Nick. And as far as the apology from him, he believes he’s sincere, but it comes off like an apology your Mama told you to give to a friend you punched in the face because they deserved it…. You apologized but you didn’t mean it. You only did it because you were told too.
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Notice how he said he was embarrassed and not ashamed? Embarrassment is a social construct while shame comes from one's conscience. In other words he only feels bad about it because other people judge him poorly.
Yup, only embarrassed cuz he got caught
To be fair, shame also comes sometimes from societal judgement and can even be misplaced. BUT, the point still stands in that embarrassment is PURELY from how you're viewed by other people while shame is what he'd be feeling if he did feel any actual regret.
Very well stated.
@@chandradeadie7924yep! If he didn't get caught, I'd be another Tuesday 😒
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Daniella Monet mentioned that she was uncomfortable with the pickle and gloss scene in the Kesha episode of Victorious and was told she still had to film it
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I’m sure Dan felt more comfortable exploiting and taking advantage of her b/c she was the oldest on Victorious. She was around 20 or 21 on the show and no longer and minor. Still no excuse for what he did to her, but that’s sadly my theory.
She even asked to cut this scene out, after seeing it and feeling uncomfortable with it. They refused.
@ville__?
@ville__please stop spreading misinformation, swoop hates Colleen. She’s released countless videos exposing and going over everything she’s done.
That guy is a professional troll. He's ALWAYS on here spreading nonsense
Funny enough, Boogie/Tebo here was on iCarly. He wasn’t a lead character at all. He didn’t bring this up at all when Dan failed to talk about the two black actors who spoke on their negative experience. Dan straight up lied saying EVERY show had a lead black actor, because no iCarly did not. Neither did Drake and Josh. The black actors in those shows worked at The movie theater and the smoothie shop. They were not lead characters. We saw them once in a while.
I am assuming the comments are turned off on his video bc this is the most unapologetic apology video I have ever scene. He displaces blame, avoids actually answering the question and the interviewer has zero follow up. Clearly staged, as you pointed out. If his comments are still open i will go leave a real nice one. Ty Swoop as always for the work you do in bringing light to these issues. Keep it up girl!
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Chris Hanson needs to interview dirty Dan and grill him with questions and evidence
Dan’s apology was BS. He’s trying to save his arse. To have him interviewed by a blk man who worked with him was on purpose.
A proper apology would’ve been to reach out to everyone but he won’t do that because he is a victim now 🙄
He created a toxic work environment & is being exposed.
The way he says “You know me” as well as “a lot of people would want to work with me again” as well as having Tebo say “you’ve had a lot of success over the years” these are all buffers for him about to not answer the question or give any real acknowledgment to the specific allegations.
And it’s like he didn’t watch the full doc because he says “IF anyone had said anything” but in Quiet on Set they talk about the times they did say something and he would literally yell at them, pressure them and make them do it anyway!
Im gonna have to ask you and everyone else to NEVER forget this plz. This has to stop and justice needs to be served.
Honestly, every single star absolutely has ptsd as if they enlisted in the wrong army.
I was in rehab with Dan's sister whom i will keep private to protect her. In rehab she was there a month and ended up flirting, cuddling and daring more than five men. Although discouraged, she ignored the rules. She was beautiful, petite and comical. When she explained who her brother was i simply thought, know wonder you may be struggling. Hers was cocaine, and heroin. I remember leaving treatment and thought to myself she will be back. Just by watching her sexual behavior, even flirtatious with women if she got her way. I couldn't believe all the men she held hands with, cuddled with until caught and the females she took advantage of because they adored her pretty face, fake shyness, and humor. Even i myself found myself chuckling at her. Please know that i bring this up because it just dawned on me to do the math, study what i witnessed and her family visits were kinda like (I'm a star) more like her brother. So we did bond prior to me realizing who Dan was, she was indeed already an entertainer and used it to her benefit. Im still in recovery and curious how she's doing today. I may do some probing. That's my story. My husband is a touring musician so for me, its hard to find time to further investigate, and how would it help anyone anyway? I pray she rose above the neglect, or whatever it is that burdened her heart and who got her hooked on drugs??? Thank you for exploiting these leaches and sometimes it hits close to home! 😢🤔😵💫🤨🤡🤬🙏🏼✌🏻
Anytime someone uses may or if in their apology, they’re not apologizing, they’re deflecting.
“If I made anyone uncomfortable”
“Any discomfort I may have caused”
Sir, there is no may or if. The doc called you out. You DID make people uncomfortable and caused real harm. Dude is deflecting in the most politician speech writer way!
Delayed man baby.
Unless it’s “I’m so sorry FOR MAKING YOU UNCOMFORTABLE” I don’t even consider it genuine
Even if the people on Brian Peck's side in court didn't know Drake Bell was the victim in question, they knew there WAS a victim. That says it all.
And they knew it was a minor. There's no excuse for writing a letter for anyone accused of something like that
@@ursaMinor1 And dare to write a letter where they basically say that he waa seduced after much trying to stay strong...
And the crimes were inspired by John Wayne Gacey’s crimes and they knew the DETAILS of that abuse and pondered what the victim might have done to TEMPT peck into doing those things
Absolutely. The fact that several of them wrote letters which included lines about how Brian must have been "tempted" by this minor shows exactly the kind of people they are.
And still made the decision to defend a grown man and insinuate he was the victim!
It's also worth noting that at least in Rocko, it's animated. No teenager in a compromising position said those lines. It was a man in his 30s (now 60s) who voice acted Rocko.
And ren and stimpy. But the guy who drew it was problematic
It's a little better that there weren't children directly involved. However it was on a children's network to be viewed by children which is not okay either
There was also the “Carpet Munchers” scene in Cow & Chicken 😮💨 I didn’t know what that meant at the time but that was the quickest I’ve ever seen my moms mouth drop.
I remember Rocko happening at nick@nite tho which was for adults i think! I don't remember if it was ever in regular nick
@@Koley411 There are always going to be jokes in kids shows that deliberately go way over the kids heads. No kid will know what the joke in Rocko's Modern Life is until they're much older. These, when done correctly and tactfully, will get the parents watching the show with their children to laugh and enjoy the show more, and do no harm to the children watching. Rocko's was fine because it was a joke made by adults for adults with only adults involved in making it, deliberately tame enough to not lose the children for too long. The problem with the "jokes" that Dan made was they were sexual jokes made using child actors. Their main purpose was gratifying content for Dan with enough plausible deniability to make it onto air.
It’s not an interview, it’s another thing written & produced by Dan. If he wanted to do an unbiased interview responding to ALL the accusations rather than cherry picking the least offensive ones- he’d have agreed to be interviewed for quiet on set.
It's like a bloody skit, written by Dan, for Dan! It just st comes across so fake!
Jeannette should be allowed to intereogate him
@ville__ ?? I don't think this is even related to this video-?
A very important point needs to be made. Nickelodeon has been getting a ton of blowback over these revelations, all of it deserved. But this isn't a Nickelodeon problem, it's an industry problem. As long as young kids desperate for stardom are in the media industry, it'll be so easy for adults to abuse/manipulate/take advantage of them that serious oversight and vigilance are going to be required to protect them. Without major reforms in how the industry operates, nothing's going to stop the next Dan Schneider from wrecking lives.
It's not just legacy media industries -- wait till all the children exploited by their parents for content on RUclips become mid 20 to mid 30 year old train wrecks!
We need a Swoop interview with Boogie asking “Dude, wtf?”
This 😂 also where she shows him his own “interview” and tells him all the questions he should have asked 😂
I concur 💯💯💯
Adding my vote.
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Yes, please!
Nah, I’m good.
“I really appreciate you reaching out.”
I WAS SO SURPRISED YOU REACHED OUT TO ME TO INTERVIEW ME FOR MY RUclips CHANNEL! 😏
"Sure Dan, and I appreciate the $$$$$$ you gave me to reach out!" 😂
I’ve never judged Disney or Nickelodeon actors for when they act out & seemingly have a “psychotic break” because the reality is that it’s literally their only way out. I hope that they can heal as much as they possibly can. It’s just so heartbreaking what they went through just to bring us some joy & smiles.
I’m a believer in Disney kids in particular acting out in order to get released from their contracts. Probably not the ones having psychiatric issues, but the ones who “go off the rails”, I can understand how you can be pushed to do whatever you can to get out of contract hell.
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I didn’t really judge them either, especially the ones I did grow up liking and watching. And for the ones I didn’t grow up watching because I outgrew the network, I just never really paid attention to them.
"my bosses never said my actions were wrong! I even personally asked Harvey Weinstein and he was never offended by the acts I had these child actresses do on screen."
dan's interview is crazy because every single question is softballed like how can you call that an "interview"
Exactly this
18:50 my favorite part is when Dan says "I don't mean to cut you off" after the guy had already finished talking. For two people who work in T.V they are really bad at acting and directing this.
It was a scene fr
@olliebollieboy
In part 5 of Quiet on Set, Brian and Giovanna from All That were asked about his “apology”. They both smirked and smiled as a way to imply that they think his apology was BULLSHIT (they used polite words).
@@amylee8969I loved their reaction and responses to that poorly acted crap. Bryan even says "let's remember that he was an actor."
“It wasn’t a different time, it was just easier for you to get away with it.” THAT RIGHT THERE 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
He's not embarrassed that he did all this, he's embarrassed that he got called out for it.
"It wasn't a different time. It was just easier to get away with it." YES THANK YOU. That excuse always makes me so mad espically when it comes from people who were grown ass adults during that "different time." They were the ones making that "different time" that way.
Like I’m supposed to believe the children of 10/20 years ago, the children of any amount of time ago, were somehow less human or less children. Regardless of cultural differences in what “a childhood” looks like, humans all have basically the same developmental stages where we move through time and do all the physical chemical stuff, like, pretty damn sure those kids from the past were in fact literally just kids.
No Twitter and social media was nowhere near as big or weaponized. Not everyone had phone cameras or recorders. It was definitely easier to get away with it. To accuse someone of status you could be shut down easily.
I love how Boogie keeps saying thing about like “I’m going to ask you to elaborate” and “I’m gonna push back a little” so they can pretend this is a hard-hitting interview where the questions weren’t at all curated by Dan so he could push a specific narrative
It’s crazy how much of this went over our heads as children watching these shows.
I remember seeing the foot and thinking that's weird/kooky but didn't think twice on it
it didn’t with me i got out right inuendoes and i though the shows were disgusting and never watched them my self even my mom though they were creepy and told me not to watch them 😅 so not everyone missed the ick known as dan
I mean, kids shouldn't know anything about sex or kinks at that age, so it's not a surprise.
A cigar can either look like a cigar or a guy part depending on the mind.
I didn't think about it at all when I was a kid. I was way more naive and had less access to things than my teens do now. Now that I'm rewatching with my kids, I'm like, "I can't believe my parents let us watch this!" According to them, it was a little innuendo for the adults too. Which, now, just knowing it was way more than that..😓😮💨
I remember as kid that I got some of these jokes but my friends didn’t so I thought that it was just me and my mind 🙊
"It wasnt a different time, it was just easier for you to get away with it"
Exactly!
Exactly 💯💯💯💯
Knowing what we know about abuse in Hollywood, look at child actors like Amanda Bynes, Cory Feldman, Lindsay Lohan, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, etc. Are we really that surprised these people grow up to be absolute trainwrecks? Its a clear sign of trauma.
@@jennaharrison3163So you're mad that people are outraged about childhood sexual abuse? Sounds kinda sus.... Until the system changes, we as a community need to keep our voices loud and keep shouting it until Hollywood realizes it's not ok to SA little kids.
Why did Orlanda Brown go down a dark path? He also got pretty messed up and became a criminal.
I’m sorry but ”Brittany” Spears made laugh 😂
true. Before I was like "I don't like Miley. I don't like Ariana" and while yes they still have accountability over their actions... a lot of them have trauma that they have not fully dealt with yet. Yeah some of them have "f you money" and can get therapy for these things, but it's like... it shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's like having a shirt and it getting stained. Of course you can get a stain remover or buy a new one, but that's extra steps to something that could've simply not happened if things were better. In this case it's not just accidentally spilling something on yourself, but the neglect of adults in the room and of course the awful audacity of the predators doing these actions.
I still don't like many celebrities because some actions, while correlated with trauma are still awful and any child can tell you it's wrong even if you have a troubled past (plus my opinion is my opinion. Ariana isn't losing on millions because one unemployed person dislikes her). But I wish them all the best with healing.
@@Anna-no8th I just realized that could be misinterpreted, I hope you realize I'm talking about the quote and not you lol
27:23 “because kids thought they were funny” …no Dan. Kids did not think they were funny. They did not understand those “jokes”. It was you. You thought it was funny.
I think a full deep dive of nickelodeon would be a great way to maybe help parents and or kids really think about, do research for, or just be an eye opener to the signs, etc to help prevent future abuse
&Deep Dive on Disney too and it's possible suspicious and terrible connections w/ Nickelodeon and possibly.....even Epstein &other Hollywood+more Elite terrible peeps....just saying 🤔🧐🔍🔍👀👀
Our Madame Swoop is gonna start seriously exposing these creeps for their webs on lies and abuse and I'm ALL HERE FOR IT🩵💜
We all better be getting ready for this🍿🫖😈
Swoop- please PLEASE do a doc on trouble teens facilities!! Spent almost my whole teen years in several and there is a ton to expose/ bring to light!!
I'm 44 and an only child, so I had phased out of Nickelodeon by the time the Schneider-verse took over. Watching these docuseries, I can't believe what he was able to get away with, both on and off screen, and I wish nothing but the worst for him and his clique.
I’m GenX so also too old to have watched this but what I couldn’t figure out was WHY I knew his face when this all started unraveling.
Turns out I remember him in 1985’s “Better off Dead” where a foreign exchange student stays at his house while he creeps on her. That’s it - that’s the whole character - but he was so boundary crossing creepy his face stayed in my head for 40 years.
Nah, I'm 43 and the boy meets world cast is enough of a cross over for me. Then we think of the other things that came out about our generations tv shows. Cosby show to name one as an example. So i wouldn't be surprised if we hear more family geared shows like that were toxic...
Schneider-verse 😂
I’m 44 too but I watched All That as a teen. It came out when I was 14 so maybe like a season or 2 but this shit went over my head at that age!
Y'all must remember how wild those earlier cartoons were then.
He says he always thinks about calling them but in REALITY what he did was have people hunt down Alexa Nikolas for over a year to con & scare her into signing an NDA. So that’s what he DID do versus what he sometimes thought about doing.
@ville__friends? Or was she keeping an enemy close?
@@JennifuhhGilardidon’t listen to this person, they are a troll. They are also going around claiming Alexa Nikolas is friends with Colleen Ballinger too.
İnteresting to see how we see Jerry Trainor always tried to put distance between the young actors and Dan and in contrast Boogie who is defending Dan til the end
❤ Jerry Trainor
I'm a former child actor. Older than these kids, I wasn't on Nickelodeon, but I can tell you this abuse started with the very first child actor Jackie Coogan, and has gone through pretty much all of us for over a hundred years ago down to today. I didn't want to be an actor, and repeatedly told people that, and they didn't care. Also, I WILL criticise Dan -- his solution is to make it clear to children that they might be working around predators and will possibly be assaulted, are the fine with that? Just sign the dotted line. I have a huge problem with his closing statement.
What were you on & makes sense now that the children’s bank accounts are the coogan accounts. It’s because of her. 😢
@@aalexzandriaa Jackie Coogan was a boy, just FYI. And it's entirely insane what goes on.
Yeah I completely agree. I'm really very sorry that you were let down so much when children Are the future 😢 and you deserved to be the priority ❤️🩹
People always seem to forget Corey Feldman. He was talking about how Hollywood is full of perverts around children from the 1980s. He was sort of listened to and then shoved to the side. Now it looks as if a younger generation is bringing up the same issues.
@@lpgilber I am the same generation as Corey Feldman, and we crossed paths once or twice (I did not work with him, or know him well). We worked in same environment, and we saw and dealt with the same things. Trust me, I don't ever forget about him. These problems have been going on for over a hundred years.
The worst part is that he had, as Swoop says, "the sugar-free, gluten-free audacity" to deny so many of these claims from the docuseries. He flat out denied forcing his female workers to split a paycheck, that he would harass his female staff with firing if they didn't do what he demanded, the threatening of his female employee when she told her rep that she was forced to split her paycheck, etc. He doesn't feel sorry for his behavior or he wouldn't have denied it even now.
One thing I felt about this "interview" is thar Boogie wasn't a child actor at the time. That felt a bit weird for me, since he probably experienced situations different if he was older. So his reassuring that he didn't feel anything was wrong is a bit misaligned and not at impactful as Dan would like.
IMO, He was FORCED to do the Interview, I believe he said No to doing this Multiple times before getting a Big Bribe he couldn't Refuse, It's Also Scripted so we don't know if he actually thinks what he's saying.
@@Suarez05he may have had his career threatened or been paid off, but I don't know how much that absolves him. I wonder if he felt sick to his stomach at all when they talked about the people in the courtroom, because he might as well be one of them.
@Suarez05 I was thinking the same thing. Especially around the 38 minute mark, when he had said he won't speak on another's journey, and he seemed sincere. Then he did speak on it. I wonder if that was one of his ways of trying to say this isn't his opinion? I can't say for sure, but that part felt off in general.
18:11 Something that Swoop didn’t specifically point out was when Dan said he was ‘sorry for anyone who witnessed the massages (that he may have made uncomfortable)’. This screams of Dan further denying/diluting any wrong doing by saying ‘Hey- there were all these other people. No one ever said anything about children and employees touching me. It can’t have been that bad, really, if at worst maybe a bystander was a little uncomfortable. It really isn’t a big deal because nobody did anything about it.’
Good catch … like the discomfort of those massaging him don’t matter and if he did nothing wrong
Also with him saying that this way he is able to turn this around any time and put the blame on these bystanders like „if they felt uncomfortable then they are the people thinking bad things“
he clearly downplays the POWER he had in and over these people's lives. Like Jennette McCurdy was supporting her whole extended family through her acting, of course she isn't going to stand up for herself.
I live in Florida. And will at a mall I was told to put in an application for Nik and Disney bc they were looking for ful figured girls for parts". We took all the info and went home. I was so excited about it. But my Meme(grandmother) told me Lynn think about the shows you've seen. What do you think they will have you do. You will be the but of all the jokes with no guarantee they will do anything else or put you in anything worthwhile. I cried so much bc I couldn't do it without my families approval. As a child, it hurt. Now I'm beyond thankful she saw what I couldn't. My daughter was doing oadgents in the local malls just for fun. She was a pretty blonde hair blue eyed slim child 3yrs old. The Disney ppl were there and tried to get me to sign her for ads and possibly a show. When I asked if my mixed daughters 8&13 could apply as well. They said sure but just know we are looking for a very particular type and age. They didn't deny them but I just got a icky feeling. And walked away. Best thing I could have done.
This interview was one of the most narcissistic things I've ever seen and Boogie should feel ashamed of himself as well. I like to take time to process my initial feelings but every time I see this interview I feel exactly the same way. It was not a interview. Thank you for making that clear Swoop! Children are gifts and are not content or entertainment. They are human beings who should be treated with kindness and respect. The adults that we seen now from these trial stars are the proof and evidence of decades of mistreatment and abuse by these people and entities they hide behind to protect their dollars.
"It wasn't a different time, it was just easier for you to get away with it." 100%
Dan putting it out there that Drake’s mother went to him (even if true) and essentially taking credit for her speech in court just makes my skin crawl. He’s looking for a pat on the back after he ENABLED the situation that caused Drake to be harmed. And him being fake emotional over it like it happened to him? I F*CKING CAN’T.
You can't what?
@pokemontradingcardgamecoll5934 Dude stop being a douche.
Until now, my ADHD brain had not registered that the reason I kept seeing Swoop in different hair colors was because she had a different color for each channel. My brain just accepted the hair color change without questioning it. Also, she looks great in both colors. :)
If you do a full nickelodeon deep dive, contact Quention Reviews! He just finished his huge series on NSU media also covering Dan Schnieder.
Omg yes, he also reviewed almost all of the nickelodeon shows in hours and hours of videos! He knows all of the shows "dramas" and behind the scenes, and I would honestly be ready to pay to see a collab with swoop on the dark sides of nickelodeon
I second and third this!!!🎉🎉🎉
Yes! They would be a great duo for a this!
It would probably be 10 hours, lol, but I totally agree! That would be really fascinating for sure.
What does Dan have on Boogie?! There's no way someone would do this interview without being bribed. 😅
I was just thinking the same thing.
I remember when iCarly and such aired and I was of that age, but I remember it giving me an ick factor that i couldn't put my finger on at the time. I felt like the girls weren't relatable and were written to be oblivious to sexual references. Took me a while to realize why I felt that way; creepy men were entertaining themselves.
You put my thoughts and feelings about that show into words perfectly. The ick factor was high.
I did watch iCarly, Victorious and Drake and Josh when I was a kid and I grew out of them around 2012/2013 and I probably did notice how unusually overemphasised feet was used in those shows but I didn't know what to make of it back then or it just didn't seem like that big of a deal at the time.
But now after seeing some of the articles related to Schneider and the Quiet On Set docuseries I now view scenes like the toe archery bit as just unnerving and gross. Sure, I did enjoy the shows growing up, enjoyed and still like certain stand out moments and the songs were bops but even then it's a bit tough separating the art from the artist in this case when said artist has a disturbing foot obsession and is that volatile towards other crew members and child stars.
Also that whole "interview" between Dan and Boogie is just boiling my blood because not only was there zero guilt or remorse or accountability coming out of Dan's mouth but it just feels like an artifical landmine of gaslighting and ego fluffing.
Sorry I just had to get that out of my system.
@eoghanfeighery7383 great additions, don't apologize for a justified and true rant
Tbh when Dan said “and I want to talk to them and apologise”, it made my skin crawl.
I want my voice heard and story told, but don’t want to lend my voice and story to the abuser.
Interested to see Swoop's take all this.
I think generally a very important thing to remember about this sus-pool is that Dan Schneider is definitely sus and also likely a scapegoat for Nickelodeon and honestly the film industry's constant failure to protect and care for the children working for them.
The rich and powerful love selling the story of just one or a few bad eggs.
Absolutely, even without looking into the entertainment industry as a whole, Dan could never have been in his position at Nickelodeon if there weren’t many people approving his work and giving him more power.
I don’t think it’s just Nickelodeon either. The whole world of child performers is ripe with sus people
Regarding the "people could have spoke up with jokes," that's very hard to argue with children's shows of the era. Animaniacs, Ren and Stimpy, and Rocco's Modern Life writers would basically complete to see what they could get past the censors, and is a large reason why those cartoons are still enjoyable for adults all these years later. One of those shows said "to get a joke you want in, make a joke that's so inappropriate and so when it gets rejected you can propose the joke you actually want."
Key word, cartoon, animation, work done 100% by adults, no children were harmed in the making of this program. How many times were there jokes that were "10 steps to far" to be "replaced" with jokes "1 step too far (that was the original joke)?" Chances are, a lot.
Famous comment on IMDb about “Rocko”: “Why is this show on Nick, shouldn’t it be on MTV, Comedy Central, or Fox?”
It's hard to wrap my head around the fact that a bunch of adults saw the storylines that Dan wrote and how he acted around children and yet no one did a thing. Not a single producer, screenwrter, parent, or others called him out. Proof that love of money is truly the root of all evil.
I agree but things truly were different before me-too movement. No one was scared to get cancelled because getting cancelled wasn’t a thing. It was brazen and public abuse, and it was normalized until very, very recently.
Because they’re likely all the same.
mhmmmm. It’s all about the money money. Some adults only care about unborn children. Once you’re born, you’re on your own.
Because they’re all the same, it was the other crew members actually touching the kids
Money makes people turn the other cheek 😢
also, you mention other Nickolodeon shows having inappropriate jokes (like the Rocko one), and how dan was sort of implying that his shows were similar to that, but like. nobody on the crew of rocko's modern life was an actual child, or in direct physical contact with dan. while those jokes are still inappropriate in general, it's insane for dan to try to treat what happens on a cartoon to things that are done to children in real life by someone with real power over them. at the end of the day, the wallaby from rocko's modern life doesn't have to carry this trauma for decades afterwards, and it's so gross and disingenuous for dan to treat it otherwise
28:28 This blabbering from Dirty Dan is EXACTLY why we need a deep dive on Nickelodeon behind the scenes. Because he is, unfortunately, right. Which means there’s WAAAAAY more creeps like him, APPROVING THIS STUFF FOR TV! For CHILDREN’S tv, nonetheless!
Dan Hands-off-me-man Schneider is an awful excuse for a human, but I agree with you. Dan is just a scapegoat for other more powerful people.
_"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"_
This may be true, but I definitely also think he was surrounded by yes-men, as much as he'll deny it.
So I was four maybe five when I did a casting for a modeling agency in San Francisco, my mom dad grandma and aunt were with me, there WERE a few celebrities there and one was screech and another actor from saved by the bell, this was late 90s and I liked screech but I wouldn’t talk to look at touch or be around the other male actor from saved by the bell and it cost me the job but I don’t regret it AT ALL my mom and dad knew that I could sense something wasn’t right. Turns out, there was truth in my intuition. Trust your kids, they will know and believe them.
I’m Amanda’s age. I remember the jacuzzi skit, I was watching it with my friends and we were like… why is this funny? Bring back blockblister video!
Hollywood historically speaking is horrible to kids teens and talent. Shirley Temple and Judy Garland aren't even the beginning nor are producers like Dan Snider the last of the dark side of Hollywood. The only difference is that this behaviour is being ripped out of the closet and these jerks are finally being shamed and being punished for their actions. Until laws and the rights of those are protected it will still be just hidden and things not talked about. Thanks for the doc. Hopefully, it'll be the start of change to improve.
Yeah, I heard both of their stories on RUclips. It was even more horrific in the 1930s than it was for these Nickelodeon stars. (Not to downplay their trauma, B/c it was horrible either way).
Plus Drew Barrymore
Finally found your background piano music! I am now at peace:
Erik Satie's Gnossiennes No. 3
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I’m the generation that was sending each other fucking cartel videos as middle schoolers cause we thought it was funny
“The kids think it’s funny” is the WORST excuse any adult could make
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LOL Swoop, you took the words right out of my mouth. From the moment he opened his mouth all I could think was "Dang Boogie, are you really that hard up for money?"
(39:40) "She was between the ages of 16 and 17" is a really, really, REALLY unusually suspicious way of saying someone is underage DAN.
When the interview came out, I didn’t believe it for a second. So much deflection. So much gaslighting. No accountability. It’s ridiculous how he thought this would clean his rep up.
There is nothing more terrible than watching an abuser use a normal person as their advocate. That the interviewer didn't specifically talk about things Dan did in the writers' room, things that had nothing to do with stress and *everything* with pure sexual harassment and misogyny.
And like every abuser that wants to appear benign or blameless, they say *a)*my bosses didn't object and had final authority; *b)* no one stopped me; I didn't think at the time I was doing anything wrong;
*e)* other people did worse. Then they focus on how *hurt* they are for being dragged for being an abuser.
This. Also what I feel for people who bring up age of consent laws. The social constructs of laws should not have any impact on it being incredibly abnormal and disturbing to be s3xually attracted to *_children._*
I was a Nick era kid, and that “well the law said so it’s fine to depict create and perpetrate this predatory material shrugs that means it’s fine” was _everywhere_ in fanfiction culture in the 2010s. There are so many things so many of us were exposed to as kids that are not okay and were never okay. Because kids grow up and learn that they fundamentally can’t comprehend predation against children as anything but apocalyptic violence against another human being, that can only elicit whatever personal version of divine fury against the perpetrators.
The excuses adults made around people who were kids then don’t hold up now that we’re their age. They deserve accountability.
I feel like no one talks about how this dude was an adult actor for Dan, not a child actor, and didn't he also speak with an exaggerated Jamaican accent?
The thing that gets me is that the problem wasn’t that the kids didn’t want to be in television, and by saying he wants a therapist there to make sure the kids really want to be there is blaming the children again for their bad experience, because he’s implying that their trauma is a result of not wanting to be there.
I came looking for this comment, thank you!
Sad to say I always thought the character name was Penelope Tate, not Taint 😐
T-Bo conducting that "interview" made me so sad. Like, c'mon dude
15:06
"hey it's Boogie I play T-Bo on Nickelodeon's iCarly" and am Dan Schneider's very own yes man!
I grew up on so many of these nickelodeon kid shows and although I didn’t understand most of the jokes never knew how bad they were until seeing them again now. The more I hear about the situation with the 3 convicted C predators that worked on many of Dan’s sets/shows, and the whole sh*t fire show that is the Dan situations in general. I want to know how Nickelodeon never saw any of this going on, or saw any warning signs, nor did anything to fix the numerous problems until far too late and so many people were already hurt by them. It all kinda comes back to Nickelodeon to me. If they never hired Dan and possibly the predators (still haven’t seen anything proving weather it was Nickelodeon or Dan who hired them) none of them wouldn’t have gotten the power and potential to cause so much damage and trauma, to so many people throughout their times and it’s just horrible.
Yeah me too
Everybody stop what you’re doing! Swoop posted 🎉
I literally was doing something totally different but screeched to a halt when I saw SWOOP upload!
Already did.
FINALLY
Finally
Just want to point out that the stuff on “Rocko’s Modern Life” that got through the censors is because at least half or more of the writers for that show learned how to do that from writing for “Ren & Stimpy”.
The facts that the “interview” was about 20 minutes longs just shows nothing serious was questioned pushed or talked about. Each person affected should have received an apology.
He really admitted to purposefully having a token black person in every show 😭 and praised himself for it 😭
I would like to recommend if you do a bigger Nickelodeon doc, looking into the crimes that John .K, the creator of Ren and Stimpy. The darkness around Nick goes deeper than just the live action shows, a lot of their animators have gotten away with doing unspeakable things and I feel like those stories are being over shadowed a little bit.
as far as I know there have only been two problematic creators on the animation side. John K. as well as Chris Savino. I don't know of any others.
You got rid of the sound of the splatter effect!!! 🥺❤️ Thank you for seeing my comment and changing it. That means a lot to me, Swoop.
Im down for you doing a nick deep dive if you are able and willing because I know you would not only be resectful but also shine light on survivors' stories.
And on everyone who wants/needs space and safety to do so.
This whole Nickelodeon thing has been fascinating. But it's also been frustrating because I know people like Dan, and people who've protected bad people. And those wounds are very fresh. Dan saying "this thing hurt me" was incredibly frustrating.
bro i was ALWAYS super uncomfortable with the focus on feet 😭 if an episode of anything started with something feet related, i changed the channel
I remember feet stuff on the Amanda Show, I don’t think anything serious about it, but I also thought it was weird and unfunny.
@@amylee8969always remember… when a kid is first exposed to something, sometimes they don’t have the intelligence to understand their feelings. You simply couldn’t figure out this “weird feeling” was you being uncomfortable. Unfunny was just you not being amused from seeing something so weird.
SO GLAD you mentioned the shift in demeanor/energy @ 41:57 - it’s clearly a performance!
as a nickelodeon kid who grew up on dan schneider shows, PLEASE definitely do a full deep dive!
and honestly.... thinking about it now, i wonder if - similar to shane dawson's content, which "normalized" (but not excused) predatory behavior - some of the kids who grew up on these shows were also primed for that type of creator on youtube. :/
I was a kid when I already felt like Nickelodeon had this inappropriate feeling on it. I don’t know how I could sense that but I did it. So I never watched it especially these sitcoms or irl shows, turns out i wasn’t freaking out and the whole thing was a Dan Schneider issue. My heart goes out to all the victims of this monster💔
Will Friedle said that Brian Peck as 'suffered enough' and Rider said he's worried about the legacy of Boy Meets World. They were in their 20s when they wrote those letters-- and of course Rider suggested they make a documentary of Boy Meets World to get better news and bury the stories of the letters with newer news stories about the show. These men are awful.
I'm so disappointed in all of the people that wrote letters and especially the ones that blamed the victim
@@alyssabrown-carleton6173 I'm not surprised or disappointed because honestly most of Hollywood is disgusting. Rider being most concerned about the legacy of Boy Meets World was ridiculous. BMW was a sitcomised 90s version of The Wonder Years. Middle male child with a brother and sister trying to figure out how the world works as he grows up.
The ~legacy~ of Boy Meets World-- a very forgettable sitcom- over the mental health and well-being of a human. Really gross.
But I find it awful that Will and Rider spent the entire podcast trying to make it sound like they were the victims and not even apologising for writing the letter. Danielle helped them a lot by insisting they were groomed, making it sound like they were kids when all this happened.
Rider was 24. Will was 28 years old. They knew it was involving a child. They sat in that court room and looked that boy in the eyes and still said nothing. I find that really gross that they didn't take accountability and apologise, and just made excuses instead.
I find it even worse that a few days later they're like 'hey we are thinking of making a documentary about our show!' knowing that it would push the articles about them writing letters down further because news tends to show what is most recent. Classic techniques to escape accountability and jump over the fence to change the topic before anyone realises it.
@@Maazzzothat absolutely pissed me off hearing them say that stuff.
@@ArdenBijou Yeah them doing that was like 'oh, okay. So you're just trash people. got it.' And three days later they're making announcements that they want to do a documentary on the show? Come on. We know what you're doing. You're trying to flood the news and chats with more positive news stories so the letter stories get buried.
Just say 'we made a massive mistake, a horrific one. We apologised privately to Drake, but here is our public apology, we are so ashamed, this never should have happened, we knew better and we did it anyway. We made the wrong choice, and it destroyed someone, and we have to live with that, we have to carry that because we made the wrong call. We apologise to Drake, and to any other victims who have gone unheard or dis-believed because of our actions. We want to be better allies, and we will try harder.'
Instead, 'I think Brian has suffered enough?!' and 'the worst part is how this damages the legacy of our really stupid terrible little cheesy sitcom that ripped off most stories from The Wonder Years.' And Danielle chiming in to repeatedly make it sound like Will and Rider were the victims in all of this was just..
All three of them are awful. They should be ashamed of themselves, they should be disgusted with themselves. Because they are trash.
Will Friedle and Ryder Strong really broke my heart. They did an episode on their podcast talking about it and I do not believe they understand what they did by supporting Brian Peck. That man is a monster and did heinous things to a child. They claim Brian fooled them but, they did not sound genuine in the episode discussing it. It makes me wonder if that is part of why Ben Savage cut ties with them. I can’t listen to their podcast or watch Boy Meets World anymore. They are not the men they seemed to be.
I hope Dan and everyone who protected him, looking at you CEO of Paramount, as well as the parents who purposefully looked away instead of protecting their children - all get charged and serve time and are listed as child predators.
ALSO YES PLEASE COVER NICKELODEON IN ITS ENTIRETY! it's so bad and you'd do it with so much respect!
I'd like those who protected and enabled him to do some time as well. I know they won't, but they should.
@Emma-CeciliaShahriari
More and more people need to continue to protest for that and support these alumni child stars. That’s the only way, they’ll take action and hold him accountable. Obviously the higher authorities won’t take the initiative and do it on their own. 🙄
I dont understand why he didn't reach out to the docuseries makers for an interview if he wanted to be sincere
The apology to people who may have witnessed the massages who may have also felt uncomfortable feels like he's trying to say "other people saw this happening and didn't say anything, so it's not that bad"
And also to put out there that allegedly no massages took place privately, only publicly
I was looking forward to this doc, iCarly and Victorious were part of the childhood of many here and I always found it a bit """"sus"""" not to mention uncomfortable this subject that was the FEET in some episodes, and stopping to review the series, it becomes even stranger to notice that almost NOBODY here in Brazil talked about it.....
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The psuedo crying thing...wow. Reminds me of my stepfather who sexually abused me for 8yrs. Yet, everyone fell for his lies. Thankfully I was able to emancipate myself eventually. *sighs* These things have been happening for EONS, to millions of children all over the world. But its famous incidents like this, that bring recognition to the issue. Please, I beg all of you, BELIEVE your children if and when they finally tell you whats happening, or happened. No matter how many years have gone by. Yes, there are a very few who lie about what occured in thier childhood. But MOST of them are desperate and telling the truth. Please, please listen. I am 54 now, and still struggle with what happened to me so long ago. 😢
I'm getting so tired of perpetrators always wanting to come out and "apologize" for harm they cause to others when they get caught. They all think the same way. Oh I got exposed let me try to make things right. Like no! It's too late for that. You had the chance to stop doing what you did and you didn't. It's always the same old thing they do. Deflect, and "apologize" when their caught.
I agree. Not sorry, basically, "sorry I got caught/exposed".
@ville__ Your an internet creep
@ville__ if it’s true Adam would’ve talked about this
Ur weak blm kkk
Swoop has opened my eyes so much so that when I see a child on TV I immediately grow concerned. They need to change laws and have some sort of protection service available for these kids.
Same
I definitely think that a Nick breakdown is needed. There's just way too many skeletons in that closet that have been allowed to hang around for far too long. Only if you're able to of course.
The point about having therapists in the hiring process “to make sure they really want to be in this business” feels like weeding out the ones that will talk. Those that really want it will stay quiet to have the career they really want. I think having a therapist available during filming would be better to be a safe place to voice abuse concerns and help get kids help.
But in a world where Drake was a jail bate tempter, how could that be successful?
I would love you and your team to do a deep dive on Nickelodeon. I love your videos, you bring awareness to issues that most just turn a blind eye to. I appreciate you and I love petty university!! Keep bringing the videos and never change because you are amazing!!!❤❤
Hello honey, I love the purple hair💜👋 I'm 54 and I have a daughter 35 and a son 25. I have seen many Nickelodeon shows, specials etc. There have been several shows that I thought to myself as long as my child didn't get it I was fine....It also isn't just Nickelodeon, Disney has done it too. So sad really. It's furiating but so sad....
I don't think we just need a Nickelodeon Deep dive and I realize this is going to take you forever but I think we need a deep dive of just child actors
I appreciate you taking the time to point out that Dan is one part of a broader picture.
If you're up for it; I think a full dive on Nickelodeon and the abuse of child actors would be a great piece.
I worry the bigger fish have let Danny boy be the fall guy so they can continue their own willful ignorance and negligence.
I’m here for you doing a deep dive on Nick. And as far as the apology from him, he believes he’s sincere, but it comes off like an apology your Mama told you to give to a friend you punched in the face because they deserved it…. You apologized but you didn’t mean it. You only did it because you were told too.
Definitely would love to see a full Nickelodeon Doc! Thank you for all you do, Swoop 🖤
If you decide to do a full doc on Nickelodeon, I’m here for it!
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this!!! I’m so excited