Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) and Mental Health (Full)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • On Monday June 5th, the Client Empowerment Council and CAMH held a panel and discussion to hear service user viewpoints about whether Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) should ever be made available to people suffering from standalone mental illness.

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  • @halcyonzenith4411
    @halcyonzenith4411 Год назад +6

    Even if they didn't allow MAID for mentally ill people, they could easily get around this by developing chronic back pain or any other condition that would qualify them otherwise.
    You can't stop people from ending their lives if they want to badly enough, the question is, how difficult do you want to make it for them so that they have to resort to more dangerous means to end their suffering.

  • @shellydavis855
    @shellydavis855 Год назад +12

    As somebody who is disabled physically and mentally I wish MAID was legal here in Arizona.
    I feel like I'm here against my will and I feel anybody and everybody should have the god given right to decide if they want to live or not.

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 6 месяцев назад

      Go to Canada with me so we can pass away with MAID 😊

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 6 месяцев назад

      Go to Canada with me so we can pass away with MAID 😊

  • @vinney6938
    @vinney6938 3 года назад +15

    First q&a Lady, there is no real treatment. The only way you can help these people is by offering them an opportunity for a better life that alot of people would say they dont deserve. We live in a capitalist, materialistic hellscape.... until you get rid of the economic qualifying system we have imposed, you might as well just grace them with the freedom of death

    • @andretasse1607
      @andretasse1607 2 года назад

      Brilliant point. %100 agree. Well said.
      An apocalyptic vision: Death machine on street corner, making "Sole Green" out of human bodies. Poor, exploited, destitute humans choosing to enter them. That may finally scare the super elite who will be loosing their workforce at a drastic rate. Maybe, only then, will they do something to make life bearable for the mass, so people would slowly be more likely to choose life... That pot was weird!

    • @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo
      @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo Год назад

      Exactly, and these other sheeple just don't get it. About 3 more months and I will be finally free. Most people don't even know how free the afterlife is. If most people could go out of body they would see how stupid and shitty this world is.

  • @lisamorrissey4077
    @lisamorrissey4077 Год назад +5

    I am applying

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 6 месяцев назад

      How do I apply I'm ready to pass away.

    • @Meghna_Sharma2
      @Meghna_Sharma2 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Victorg-dr3sd why you want to die?

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 6 месяцев назад

      @@Meghna_Sharma2 because I'm 43 and old

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Meghna_Sharma2cuz I'm ready to pass.

  • @CCC-V3
    @CCC-V3 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Most free country" can't end your own life on your own terms.
    Suffering just to suffer as I wait day in ane day out for MAiD laws to open up to sole mental illness.

  • @ThatOne77
    @ThatOne77 Год назад +5

    Why would someone say, "you deserve to live?" I deserve perpetual meaninglessness? I deserve going through a life of failure? What an insult.

    • @dynamiclizard1098
      @dynamiclizard1098 Год назад

      Hello. I struggle with mental health and suicidal thoughts. And you know what I’ve learned? Depression and other mental health issues make you view things in a way that they aren’t in reality. They make you feel like there’s no hope or that you’re a failure and that you will always fail. But with a good support system, you will be able to see through all of that. It’s disgusting how Canada is treating you all up there. Not only are they making mental health care horrible but they’re also doing this. They aren’t even bothering to improve their mental health care system and instead, they’re just making suicide easier. You were put here for a reason. And if you stick around, you will be able to find what you are meant to do with your life. You may have to look really hard but you will eventually find it. If you need someone to talk to, please contact these people (or a therapist or any other professional if you already have access to them):
      988lifeline.org/?
      Best of luck, friend ❤️

    • @ThatOne77
      @ThatOne77 Год назад

      @@dynamiclizard1098 after 50 years, I would think I'd figure out why I'm here. No luck. Stop with the empty promises.

    • @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo
      @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo Год назад

      I know right screw these pro-life people they only help those in power who play the control and domination game keep us suffering here and not aware of the afterlife. I have had many experiences relating to the afterlife and its so much better and has true freedom there unlike here on this planet earth which is a prison planet and fake reality.

  • @jamielivingston5664
    @jamielivingston5664 7 лет назад +3

    Excellent discussion about a complex topic. Wonderful panel. Nice work.

  • @lindafundytus3930
    @lindafundytus3930 Год назад +1

    Excellent presentations! Very helpful information for sharing with regard to using these to educate and inform people as well as for lobbying the government etc about what MAID is all about. Impressive work!!

  • @MrAsingh1989
    @MrAsingh1989 3 года назад +13

    How do I apply for MAID

    • @patricknoel9096
      @patricknoel9096 9 месяцев назад

      You approach a mental health facility , they will guide you through the entire process being a processing and management center for the population. Life does not need to be in suffering or failure.

    • @janedixon8491
      @janedixon8491 4 дня назад

      My sister recently did maid in Ontario. She had to get 2 doctors to sign off on her Maid. She was terminally ill and was given 3 to 6 months to live. She made it to 3 months and had enough and set a date and a doctor administered maid. She had no mental issues though just terminal cancer. I am thankful she was able to do it as she was suffering daily.

  • @andretasse1607
    @andretasse1607 2 года назад +3

    1:20:15 I suspect that our panellist will have a different take on recognizing the "validity" of a change of mind depending solely of the direction of that change of mind (in a person with advance dementia)...

  • @Rayowag
    @Rayowag Год назад +1

    The third panelist: YES. The medical system (worldwide honestly) needs to improve for mental health, absolutely, but keeping a peaceful non-traumatizing way to bow out from people that tried all treatments just because the system isn't fixed yet seems so cruel and only ends in more deaths that traumatize people around them.
    I personally hate this idea in everyone's minds that all mental illness is either curable or managable. That makes no sense, especially with how little is researched about it and how many mental illnesses persistent only because of the social and economic system we live in being the way it is.

  • @hannahmiller5515
    @hannahmiller5515 Год назад +1

    If someone gets brain scans that show a deterioration of the brain then maybe that can count as a physical illness? For example Alzheimer's isn't considered a mental illness, it's considered a physical disease

  • @patricknoel9096
    @patricknoel9096 9 месяцев назад

    That people you actually want to see might come through the crowd more too

  • @laststarfighter4566
    @laststarfighter4566 Год назад +2

    If they expanded the MAID criteria…. Can we bring back capital punishment?

  • @ThatOne77
    @ThatOne77 Год назад

    "It is six o'clock, we are starting at six??"

  • @mediocreape
    @mediocreape Год назад +2

    1:02:08god damn, what an absolutely tragic story, it's incredibly surprising to me how a small gesture of good will from someone can make a person want to live. reminds me something dr Jordan Peterson once said " it's brutally tragic how little encouragement people need to thrive"

    • @ThatOne77
      @ThatOne77 Год назад

      Why is it tragic?

    • @mediocreape
      @mediocreape Год назад

      @@ThatOne77 because our society has got to a point where we don't look after one another in the same way as we used to when we were hunter gathers. All she needed was to be told by a stranger that she had a purpose in this world and that she mattered, for her to decide not to take her own life. If that's not tragic, i don't know what is.

    • @ThatOne77
      @ThatOne77 Год назад

      @@mediocreape "Our society" were hunter gatherers??

    • @ThatOne77
      @ThatOne77 Год назад

      @@mediocreape there is no meaning. There is no purpose.

    • @mediocreape
      @mediocreape Год назад +1

      @@ThatOne77 is suffering not real? While I agree with you the world is ultimately without meaning but pain, be it psychological or mental, is as real as it gets. You can’t dismiss the suffering of a person by claiming It’s nothing to worry about by appealing to the meaninglessness of it all.

  • @robertkovacs1216
    @robertkovacs1216 Год назад +2

    I feel it is dangerous because they can kill people legally which is scarry. I got disability and I am afraid that eventually they want to put me down.

    • @robertkovacs1216
      @robertkovacs1216 Год назад +3

      @Maekklyn it is a very slippery slope this need to stop people need help support and not to be murdered. This is sickening that Canada rather kill you than treat you.

    • @professionalboycottservice7872
      @professionalboycottservice7872 Год назад

      YOU IMPOSED LIFE ON PEOPLE BY HAVING SECKS WITHOUT CONDOM, DIDNT YOU? IMPOSING LIFE OF SUFFERING TO KIDS WHO WILL BE FUTURE ADULTS WITH DEPRESSION, MEDICAL AND PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND SUFFERING PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO SUFFER AND HAVE THE CHOICE TO END THEIR LIVES ACCORDINGLY WITH SAFE AND SURE WAYS TO DIE. SUICIDE IS HIGH AND IT HAPPENS IN A GRUESOME AND VIOLENT WAYS. MAID IS THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE SUFFERING IS TERMINATED AND PEOPLE WHO TRIES TO END THEIR LIVES AND SURVIVE TO SUFFER MORE IS TO HELP PEOPLE HAVE CHOICE TO END THEIR SUFFERING IMMENSELY. NOW, IF YOU TRULY WISH TO ELIMINATE SUFFERING IN PEOPLE, DO NOT REPRODUCE AND BECOME STERILE.

    • @McMushTrippy
      @McMushTrippy Год назад +3

      @@robertkovacs1216 I'm on disability too.. I'm scared

    • @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo
      @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo Год назад

      @@robertkovacs1216 Well death is better than suffering in a fake reality on this prison planet. There's actually no such thing as death, there's an afterlife and its much better than prison planet earth. I can't wait until next year I hate mostly everything about this world and the stupid sheeple people.

    • @peachesandsunshine9
      @peachesandsunshine9 Год назад

      @Maekklyn Not quite true. If you need to purchase a disability service that is a major expense, the doctor could give you the option to "MAID" yourself instead of being a financial burden. That happened to some people in Canada who had no intention on "MAID"ing themselves and they were caught off guard by the doctor option. In fact, I think they may have said that the government may not be able to support their disability service, so MAID is more likely.

  • @kimly8196
    @kimly8196 Год назад +1

    How to access to MAID I want to apply. Any one knows how to start the process please let me know thanks

    • @professionalboycottservice7872
      @professionalboycottservice7872 Год назад

      TALK TO YOUR FAMILY DOCTOR. IF YOUR DOCTOR DENIES YOU TO HELP YOU REFER YOU TO MAID, YEET THEM. TELL THEM MAID IS BETTER ALTERNATIVE VERSUS ENDING YOUR SUFFERING IN A VIOLENT OR GRUESOME WAYS.

    • @Victorg-dr3sd
      @Victorg-dr3sd 6 месяцев назад

      Me too
      I want to apply

  • @JSOPETTYY5686
    @JSOPETTYY5686 Год назад +2

    Our children are next.. just watch… THEN they’ll move to “ without parental consent”

  • @AL-ri6bk
    @AL-ri6bk 5 месяцев назад

    how did this country get so messed up that people would rather die than live.... helll. age of decadency.

  • @HalloweenHorrors
    @HalloweenHorrors Год назад

    Wheres the document to apply?

  • @SokiHime
    @SokiHime Год назад +4

    I think we should subject anybody who pushes for this to medical assistance in dying.

    • @hikesandhoops3098
      @hikesandhoops3098 Год назад +4

      So you would rather have people just suffer 24/7 with no quality of life ? Their are conditions many of them that do not get better. Why would you want them to suffer if they don’t want to want to?

  • @elainebraindrain3174
    @elainebraindrain3174 Год назад +1

    Let non citizens in.

  • @vinney6938
    @vinney6938 3 года назад

    "Framed"? How ironic

    • @vinney6938
      @vinney6938 3 года назад +1

      You know, since law enforcement could potentially easily entrap or frame people they dont like or suspect by sabotaging their lives to the point of hopelessness. Those people would likely seek assisted suicide, you know because their lives are totally ruined

  • @WarBastard88
    @WarBastard88 Год назад +1

    This so sick it's almost unbelievable.

  • @ThatOne77
    @ThatOne77 Год назад

    I'm chuckling at the woman on the panel struggling to be politically correct. Ha ha

  • @phyliciaanniemorganroise6502
    @phyliciaanniemorganroise6502 5 лет назад +1

    Toiet paper gordona

  • @murielkinsella3526
    @murielkinsella3526 2 года назад

    I don't know why this has come up on my phone. I don't subscribe to such anti human laws.

    • @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo
      @ThereIsNoGodButConsciousnessGo Год назад

      Lol your just like the rest of the people who don't understand how this life here is a curse. I guess you have it good but not everybody is lucky like you. If I didn't have my mother around I would be out on the streets homeless so I would be suffering even more. Prices on everything is going up when it doesn't need to, we don't even need a monetary system. The monetary system is only there to enslave the population, death is the ultimate freedom and in death there's actually no such thing as death and there is an afterlife that is much more better than life here. Even other planets that are different from earth here that are much better than here. Many people will say that i'm hallucinating these otherworldy experiences but its actually real. And I can't wait to leave this shit hole behind with all the fake ass people and stop playing the elites game of control and domination that they have over this planet. This planet is the true hell and anyone defending this planet and defends pro-birth here is a fucking idiot and npc.

  • @aquious953
    @aquious953 Год назад

    I've had chronic pain and major depression for 20+ yrs. Recently my psychiatrist dumped me because I stopped taking medication after I had asked for a med change for months. I just gave up. Add in poverty and I'm done.