I have now have 45 recordings of this Concerto, but this 'Ossia' cadenza takes the cake. Orozco is in a class by himself with virtually no competition.
@@ryushev2000 yes. I now have 45 recordings including Matsuev with Gergiev which is superb, but its Matsuev's 2nd Concerto with a young Chinese conductor Ha na Chang at the Royal Albert Hall made around 2014 that is second only to the composer. ruclips.net/video/LQanRa1lUSQ/видео.html
I had the great pleasure of recording several CDs with Rafael. I remember particularly the first take of the Liszt Sonata. He played it straight through and it was devastating. It merely needed a few small patches to cover noises off or some tiny accidental touch of an adjacent key. He was also totally charming to everyone. Such a terrible loss. As you will realise I have only just come across this material on Utube.
Great story! My favorite album of Orozco is his LP with the 4 Chopin Scherzi. I listened to that one literally thousands of times. Just mindblowing amazing. Are you, per total coincidence, also there while he was recording these? (Philips, 1975). I would be thrilled to hear any details, any, no matter what, about that recording session. Thanks in advance, and again thanks for your little story here in the comments! Greetings from The Netherlands, Simon
Admirable technique, power and speed. For my personal taste I would prefer more dynamic modulation. Every passage sounds equally loud and tempo too rigid. I still rank Volodos No. 1 at Ossia.
Mistakes are a pleasure in this video because only an insane guy is able to play in public at his tempo that piece, in that moment, mistakes become poetry.
OMG I read your comment and I have been laughing for 10 minutes before I was finally able to compose myself to say, Bob, your comment was the only comment that adequately captures Rafael's performance of the Cadenza. Just. Wow. Thank you for making me laugh. But yeah. I mean, I can play the cadenza, but not. Like. This. No one can. And he just rides it til the wheels come off, and then... he doesn't care and still goes faster... Just pure passion. The part where I slow down for sheer terror of what lies ahead, he speeds up like "bring it!"
Please listen everyone. I don't think any human playing this passage at this tempo can do it without "mistakes". They may make smaller mistakes or fairly unnoticeable ones, but a mis-hit note is a mis-hit note no matter how slight. The only "perfect" pianists by these standards are machines and most would agree they are unpleasant to listen to. So let's just enjoy this for how musical it is and not worry about those "mistakes", unless they seriously destroy the integrity of his interpretation.
The voicing of the chords is not perhaps ideal, but this is certainly the most visceral Rach 3 ossia cadenza I've ever heard. There's something to be said for that.
I prefer this cadenza too, it's much more dramatic and emotional than the original. Rachmaninoff stated many times that he preferred his original, shorter version though, which may be why more pianists tend not to perform the ossia version.
@robert982 from google translator: The exceptional qualities of the late virtuoso Raphael Orozco, have never been more than matched by this pattern of Rachmaninoff's Third Concerto. Horowitz and other famous performers even have dared to do this difficult and dangerous "Cadence", or in a recording studio, or in public, live! I wonder if Marc Andre Hamelin ... Orozco, artist of amazing talent on the piano! Unforgettable!
Disculpen, aquí hay un gran error, no se trata de Rafael Orozco, se trata del gran intérprete Jaime Flórez mejor conocido como el Maharajá Rama Ahujama o El Embajador de la India, quien además es un gran cantante, recordemos su maravilloso 'O sole mio.
Yes , beyond all possible virtuoso fireworks or technical singularities , was Mrs.Kern in the very central emotion of this concerto . She was playing at this very day for eternity . Her sound , lyricism , care , was so moving ... . Others captured some orgastic moments of the score , Mrs. Kern was in full love with the music ...
I thought the true definition of a cadenza is a section where "the soloist is free to play without a strict, regular tempo" as he or she is led. Is there no room for rubato?
Your interpret it wrongly.. The interpret is free to interpret it in the tempo he chooses. Anyway, if you cannot apreciate his use of the tempo...let's talk about the weather.
I also like Berman sorry :) The Rach 3 ione of the most complicated Concerto ever written ( more notes per second than any other piece of music). Moreover, the beautiful intertwining melodies few capture and those who play is with the view to beating the time record for Guinness usually miss much of it. The person who captures these melodies and every note as though in the composer head IMHO is Olga Kern, her playing under James Conlan at the 2001 Van Cliburn she won is simply OUTSTANDING
Everybody always raves about Berman's....I really don't see the appeal. It's technically sound but pretty run-of-the-mill and kind of boring. Give me Gavrilov, Sokolov, or Orozco (not this particular performance) any day of the week for the Ossia.
Too brutal 😝 Rachmaninoff original recording has more musical and dynamic playing Yes this guy is great, amazing and the best, but he need to calm down a little bit.
I have now have 45 recordings of this Concerto, but this 'Ossia' cadenza takes the cake. Orozco is in a class by himself with virtually no competition.
spotted
I have 18 recordings of the Rach 3 and I believe this is the best long cadenza performance I have ever heard.
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Too many errors
Heard Matsuevs?
@@ryushev2000 yes. I now have 45 recordings including Matsuev with Gergiev which is superb, but its Matsuev's 2nd Concerto with a young Chinese conductor Ha na Chang at the Royal Albert Hall made around 2014 that is second only to the composer. ruclips.net/video/LQanRa1lUSQ/видео.html
The live version of Yefim Bromfman is very awesome and magical !
I had the great pleasure of recording several CDs with Rafael. I remember particularly the first take of the Liszt Sonata. He played it straight through and it was devastating. It merely needed a few small patches to cover noises off or some tiny accidental touch of an adjacent key. He was also totally charming to everyone. Such a terrible loss. As you will realise I have only just come across this material on Utube.
Great story! My favorite album of Orozco is his LP with the 4 Chopin Scherzi. I listened to that one literally thousands of times. Just mindblowing amazing. Are you, per total coincidence, also there while he was recording these? (Philips, 1975). I would be thrilled to hear any details, any, no matter what, about that recording session.
Thanks in advance, and again thanks for your little story here in the comments!
Greetings from The Netherlands, Simon
Best Ossia Cadenza I have heard so far. Very satisfying, one can really tell the pianist has unleashed the fury.
Living dangerously throwing caution to the wind. Passionate, frenetic and mind blowing - gives me goose flesh.
Qué pianista grandioso!!!.que técnica y que musicalidad,es una pena que nos hayas dejado tan joven!!.Dios te bendiga Rafael Orozco.
I heard him many times live... Rach 3rd, Liszt Sonata, Albeniz... He was a lion!
Thanks for the Liszt sonata recommendation, I will try and track that down.
Omg..simply amazing! I rarely see this cadenza being performed. Never heard of this particular pianist but I admire his technique here.
Kenneth W you should hear his Liszt Sonata. One of the most underrated virtuosos in history
Admirable technique, power and speed.
For my personal taste I would prefer more dynamic modulation. Every passage sounds equally loud and tempo too rigid.
I still rank Volodos No. 1 at Ossia.
This Concerto and Bhrams No.1 Piano, are my favorites. This pianist is absolutely fantastic!
Wonderful! His hands, like electricity moving around the piano is a beautiful sight .
Impresionante, por su fuerza y por el riesgo que toma en una actuación en vivo!
Mistakes are a pleasure in this video because only an insane guy is able to play in public at his tempo that piece, in that moment, mistakes become poetry.
I audibly gasped at 0:27. Just. Fuck. They're not lying when they say you need 6 fingers on each hand to play Rachmaninoff.
OMG I read your comment and I have been laughing for 10 minutes before I was finally able to compose myself to say, Bob, your comment was the only comment that adequately captures Rafael's performance of the Cadenza. Just. Wow. Thank you for making me laugh. But yeah. I mean, I can play the cadenza, but not. Like. This. No one can. And he just rides it til the wheels come off, and then... he doesn't care and still goes faster... Just pure passion. The part where I slow down for sheer terror of what lies ahead, he speeds up like "bring it!"
If only they always did this Cadenza. It's far superior to the standard one. Magnificent.
Bravo D. Rafael Orozco
Impressing!
Grandiose!!!
Je crois que c'est la vidéo la plus impressionnante sur youtube en terme d'interprétation instrumentale !! 😮
Please listen everyone. I don't think any human playing this passage at this tempo can do it without "mistakes". They may make smaller mistakes or fairly unnoticeable ones, but a mis-hit note is a mis-hit note no matter how slight. The only "perfect" pianists by these standards are machines and most would agree they are unpleasant to listen to. So let's just enjoy this for how musical it is and not worry about those "mistakes", unless they seriously destroy the integrity of his interpretation.
Pulls the time around far too much.
This is the best execution of this version of the Cadenza. Hands down. And Yuja Wang has the best execution for the other version of the cadenza.
The best execution of the other cadenza is Rachmaninoff himself and Horowitz just behind. Yuja is a few light years behind.
@@andream.464 I would say that Martha Argerich surpasses Horowitz!
@@willemboone7912 does she surpass Rachmaninov though?
Holly shit!!!!!!! Listened Yo this cadenza by 100 pianists. This is definitley one the best.
Phenomenon!!!
His technique is amazing! I didn't see any pianists playing this cadenza as fast as Rafael Orozco!
love it great classical piano playing.
Perfection.
Fenómeno de la Naturaleza!
That´s terrific indeed,
I have never heard [seen] him playing. A great one indeed! :-)
The voicing of the chords is not perhaps ideal, but this is certainly the most visceral Rach 3 ossia cadenza I've ever heard. There's something to be said for that.
exelente
wow
I prefer this cadenza too, it's much more dramatic and emotional than the original. Rachmaninoff stated many times that he preferred his original, shorter version though, which may be why more pianists tend not to perform the ossia version.
I could be wrong, but I thought it was the other way around. I thought this was the original.
no comment...
@robert982 from google translator: The exceptional qualities of the late virtuoso Raphael Orozco, have never been more than matched by this pattern of Rachmaninoff's Third Concerto. Horowitz and other famous performers even have dared to do this difficult and dangerous "Cadence", or in a recording studio, or in public, live! I wonder if Marc Andre Hamelin ... Orozco, artist of amazing talent on the piano! Unforgettable!
Leyenda
Frightening
Imposible igualarlo
sergei blessed him !
This man is driving me mad. Rachmaninoff's intensity is one to be afraid of. MADNESSSSSSSS
Disculpen, aquí hay un gran error, no se trata de Rafael Orozco, se trata del gran intérprete Jaime Flórez mejor conocido como el Maharajá Rama Ahujama o El Embajador de la India, quien además es un gran cantante, recordemos su maravilloso 'O sole mio.
Listen to Lazar Berman he ownes this cadenza, the tempo is all over the place here.
He also recorded it, with one cut in the 3rd movement
Were there any strings left on that piano at the end of the performance?
@springkler That was a very mature and intelligent comment sir
True
@HuffinMuffin Thanks.
Yes , beyond all possible virtuoso fireworks or technical singularities , was Mrs.Kern in the very central emotion of this concerto . She was playing at this very day for eternity . Her sound , lyricism , care , was so moving ... . Others captured some orgastic moments of the score , Mrs. Kern was in full love with the music ...
A tsunami and an explosion.
Beautiful octaves at the beginning. Sadly going further it's nearly a Boulez piano piece.
Is there anything wrong with Boulez ?
@@brk932 Yes, when it comes to Rachmaninoff, there is. Calculator's aren't known for their Romanticism.
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I thought the true definition of a cadenza is a section where "the soloist is free to play without a strict, regular tempo" as he or she is led. Is there no room for rubato?
Your interpret it wrongly..
The interpret is free to interpret it in the tempo he chooses.
Anyway, if you cannot apreciate his use of the tempo...let's talk about the weather.
What the hell was that little sound at 0:37 it sounded like something out of an N64 game.
@robert982 Google traductor does magic ;)
TA PORRA É O RATINHO, RAPAZZZZZZ
@darkblueangel1956 Hi, if anyone could translate the comment into english that would appreciated.
wenn man die Kadenz mit Horowitz von 1953 hört können sie alle Anderen vergessen!
Gibt es einen Link dazu? Ich habe vergeblich versucht die erwähnte Aufnahme auf RUclips zu finden
Cadenza lontana anni luce dai miei gusti, le corse non producono musica
@springkler Based on what? Enlighten us!
more notes = more complexity?
Ĺa mejor interpretacion del Rach3 es la del pianista ruso Nikolái Lugansky. Por su tecnica y musicalidad !!!!!
00:27 Casi la misma velocidad que Lang Lang pero la técnica de ataque de este pasaje es distinta
Lang Lang...pufff para lo que ha quedado
Compararlo con Orozco...
вот это он мочит
I also like Berman sorry :) The Rach 3 ione of the most complicated Concerto ever written ( more notes per second than any other piece of music). Moreover, the beautiful intertwining melodies few capture and those who play is with the view to beating the time record for Guinness usually miss much of it. The person who captures these melodies and every note as though in the composer head IMHO is Olga Kern, her playing under James Conlan at the 2001 Van Cliburn she won is simply OUTSTANDING
@Berni Boy Have you heard Laza Berman Ossia Cadenza no one comes close
1:09 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Is he mad ???
A tsunami after a nuclear explotion....🤯🤯🤯
that mullet dude has 20 fingers,where are the men in black ;-}
i wish my hands were as big as his lol
Everybody always raves about Berman's....I really don't see the appeal. It's technically sound but pretty run-of-the-mill and kind of boring. Give me Gavrilov, Sokolov, or Orozco (not this particular performance) any day of the week for the Ossia.
He died already right?
In 1996
ROFL
Quite a lot of bum notes in there...
Too brutal 😝
Rachmaninoff original recording has more musical and dynamic playing
Yes this guy is great, amazing and the best, but he need to calm down a little bit.
Like a machine. Needs to be more passionate!
You know, the passion for the machine also exists..
More passionate??? There's soo much passion and fury! How can you not feel it?
Unfortunately quite dirty
quite a mess
Oh my god......there is almost no passage without wrong notes.........that is false virtuosity
Ouch !it seems difficult to him ! He'd rather play a Mozart sonata. That sounds just horrible !
PIANO Channel shut up, you can not play it like him. what would you play? Bach minuet?
I think it was mainly the bad quality of the tape.
TheBirdOfMorning no, he was notorious for knocking pianos out of tune. It's a shame, he was a huge talent, but tried to make too big a sound.
Insomma....