I understand the criticisms about the charts' difficulties not really lining up with the difficulties they are made for, but this is one of the hardest charts ever made(that is intended to be played by humans).
I love how McHaggis-man managed to keep just enough difficulty in the medium chart to where you really feel like you’re progressing as a player. As someone stuck in medium limbo, it would definitely benefit medium players to play this chart and practice it nonstop as they progress to harder difficulties. No one just starts at expert, so props.
nah i completely disagree, i feel like it not having orange note ruins it and no player that can play a chart that difficult wouldn’t already be playing expert or hard
Daniel Williams actually have you tried a chart like that on expert? It's hard because you change your hand so quickly which can fuck up your FC, hard chart has one note after the 3 note chord, so you have time to switch, thus bringing your opinion, invalid (ps been playing this guitar hero for 7 years sooo,)
Hakuna Matata a way to think about it is that Soulless 4 is borderline UnFCable on expert so someone who usually plays medium would have that same experience of it being challenging
Expert is original Hard is just a version of Expert that's slightly easier to FC Medium is 4 frets and half of the notes are taken out Easy is 3 frets and it only has an eighth of the notes
I can beat guitar hero songs on expert, some with over 95% and 1 fc, but medium looks impossible to me. Half the expert songs in main guitar her games look easier than medium.
well, they are a bit undercharted because that's one of the main thing happening on lower difficulties back in GH1-GH2-GH3-... And compare to normal GH, they don't nesecerly do the 25% notes/50% notes/75% notes/100% notes (Easy/Medium/Hard/Expert for the matching difficulties/% of notes), if they was, they will do like this: Easy: 2 251 or 2 252 Medium: 4 502 or 4 503 Hard: 6 753 or 6 754 Expert: 9 005 but, they do: Easy: 3 495 (38,812%) Medium: 5 607 (62,265%) Hard: 7 817 (86,807%) Expert 9 005 (100%)
For everyone that's saying that easy, medium etc, are really hard and unfair, well thing is, soulless 4 wasn't made to be easy at all. Easy doesn't just mean anyone that's played for more than a week, less or more, he or she can play it. Secondly, Simplifying this song more than it already is, would make it pretty boring, undercharted, and melodically incorrect for the music, the chart, and for the player, making it harder. Lastly, if you were more or less underexperienced, why are you playing soulless 4 when you know your not good at it, much less Clone Hero/Guitar Hero in general? I hate to be that guy ok sorry don't hurt me, but ooh do I wanna.
"why are you playing soulless 4 when you know your not good at it, much less guitar hero/clone hero in general?" BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE FUN, MARTIN /:
(Sorry for late reply) Actually, it's not harder on hard. Most of the HOPO chords are followed by a single note which is the lowest color of the chords. Thus, you only have to let go of one fret, instead of both frets which you have to do on Expert.
Easy Mode: 3495 notes: 39% of the notes are there| 809,374 points Normal Mode: 5607 notes: 62% of the notes are there| 1,284,238 points Hard Mode: 7817 notes: _86%_ of the notes are there| 1,788,862 points Expert Mode: 9005 notes: *100%* of the notes are there| 2,079,014 points
Eh. Not done very well IMO. Hard could pass off as an expert song, medium could pass off as a hard song (Expert in some parts 😕) and easy could pass as a medium. The other difficulties are too similar to the expert track. For progression it would be nice but you shouldn’t have to learn expert techniques to pass a song on medium.
Dusty365365 you are aware that the easy and medium are unofficial? The expert and hard charts are officially made by exilelord. It’s not he point of “medium should be this hard and easy Should be easy.” As you can see with the official charts, hard was just made to be an easier version of expert, not made to be a “hard” guitar hero chart
ѕѕ · Denn Of course I’m aware. You can legitimately argue that it doesn’t matter because only the expert track is official (Yes, the only official. ExileLord only made the expert track.) but I’m saying that there’s work to be done to differentiate further from expert by the other tracks. I’m sorry you disapprove of my comment, but other than just defending the tracks, what are you arguing?
Honestly I feel the hard chart is in a good spot right now. I can comfortably get myself up to 96-98% tops. There are parts I still have to practise, such as murderous and some others, but I genuinely feel like SL4 on hard is fine as is. Any "easier" (because I'm not saying it's easy), would defeat the purpose of it being a proper challenge for those mad enough to try.
Isn’t the point of easier difficulties to prepare you to move up to harder ones? I personally feel like while easy is by no means a beginner track, it’s definitely one that you would practice as you prepare to move on to medium. Moving to the medium chart specifically may not happen right away, but it sure is a good test of skills you’ve built up, and a good challenge to reveal what you still need practice on. I’m personally okay with all three of the lower difficulty charts.
Maybe we should make new difficulties for songs like this, cuz i'd say that medium looks like an expert to me and that expert is more like "why are you doing this"
easy mode, also known as "i just got into CH because of streamers but i cant do the shit they do yet so i gotta start small but playing the same hard songs"
Hard looks like a ton of fun in my opinion. It has most of the elements of expert but the tapping doesn't require the 6 or 7 finger tapping skill like expert does and that's what I cannot do.
It's great for people that are just under the level of playing the Expert chart. I guess kinda like an Expert Minus. I find it actually fun, not overly hard but not too easy for me personally. I found S5's Hard chart boring in comparison, even tho it is better in terms of difficulty progression.
medium feels like the only fair representation of a rhythm game chart for this song. easy may be challenging, but its clear that it's been dumbed down. meanwhile i can spot countless unnecessary extra notes in hard and expert that make it clearly feel like this song was just designed to be a bullshit difficulty rhythm game challenge, rather than it's own song that was charted naturally. medium feels like it keeps everything that is necessary, and throws away the bullshit that ONLY exists to make the map harder. although i do like the variation in patterns i'm seeing across difficulties. i'd imagine you could repurpose 'medium' into both an ACTUAL medium chart as well as a hard chart. then you can perhaps use this 'hard' for expert, and i guess keep the easy? but it kinda feels a little TOO easy..
So just for background sake, I have beaten GH 2, 3, 80'S, Aerosmith, and RB 1, 2, ACDC and Beatles on expert modes.Id be stretching to beat this on hard I would imagine
The quads are usually sixteenth notes or eighth notes and the trips are usually eighth note triplets or quarter note triplets. 4 sixteenths equal 3 eighth note triplets and 4 eighths equal 3 quarter note triplets, so I’d say it makes a lot of sense.
Solo of a Robot A is a bit fast for medium and the pattern of stepping solo a is rough for players on keyboard or controller although I don’t know why you would be on controller
I've been playing GH for the past 6 months quite a lot but I would have trouble with s4 even on easy. I can't wrap my head around how do people play these songs.
Ernest Zamelczyk if you've been playing GH for 6 years, and I've been playing for less than a year, and can play and pass S4 expert then there is something wrong
i have to say that the hard chart is not loyal to the games. if there is a hard part on expert, it would be way nerfed on hard mode. take jordan for example. the hard chart pales in comparison. The chart displayed is way too hard for it to be hard difficulty if one were to be loyal. exilelords hard chart is the same, but that wasn’t meant to be a hard difficulty chart.
I tried looking up "Soulless 4 Difficulty Comparison" on RUclips multiple times, and nothing ever really showed up. Sorry if you think I ripped your content, my dude. Coincidental timing, I guess.
I can hear the sounds of a brown man screaming and a randyladyman going “OHHHHHH”
I can't hear the song at all. Just a brown man strumming like crazy.
The brown man is acai
I understand the criticisms about the charts' difficulties not really lining up with the difficulties they are made for, but this is one of the hardest charts ever made(that is intended to be played by humans).
Not even close
@@jakesnussbuster3565 to be fair helidox and soulless 6 were considered impossible, as well as many other customs that have been fced nowadays
@@mineturte yea there are tons of songs way harder
Like megalodon
I love how McHaggis-man managed to keep just enough difficulty in the medium chart to where you really feel like you’re progressing as a player. As someone stuck in medium limbo, it would definitely benefit medium players to play this chart and practice it nonstop as they progress to harder difficulties. No one just starts at expert, so props.
Actually I just started at expert because i'm very very good at video games
good for you
I started on expert and struggled for a couple hours cause I wanted to be good at the game lol
@@Kazwell96 same
nah i completely disagree, i feel like it not having orange note ruins it and no player that can play a chart that difficult wouldn’t already be playing expert or hard
I can hear the clicking
do you have schizophrenia?
@@YuriNator557 they are referring to the clicks made from the guitar controller when playing this song.
4:50, when the Hard chart is harder than Expert
Daniel Williams actually have you tried a chart like that on expert? It's hard because you change your hand so quickly which can fuck up your FC, hard chart has one note after the 3 note chord, so you have time to switch, thus bringing your opinion, invalid (ps been playing this guitar hero for 7 years sooo,)
100% agree
MysticalBeing
chill
Robotic bridge?
Nah not really. The game lets you anchor with only 2 notes instead of the constant switching.
7:48 its a bit harsh to be putting chimneys on medium right there... some parts definitely could be made easier on medium and hard
theyre not that hard
they gotta learn the pattern somehow
Hakuna Matata a way to think about it is that Soulless 4 is borderline UnFCable on expert so someone who usually plays medium would have that same experience of it being challenging
Perfectly said
all it is, is button spamming if you think about it
I would never be able to FC this song on easy.
Kwipper its impossible to fc on easy with a bot
why
Broken Matt Hardy yeaaaaaaaassssss get vanguard1 to do it
This song makes me wanna find my game system and give it a try, for sure.
Bruh I can barely fc slow ride on medium
Expert is original
Hard is just a version of Expert that's slightly easier to FC
Medium is 4 frets and half of the notes are taken out
Easy is 3 frets and it only has an eighth of the notes
Roosell no shit Sherlock
Roosell That’s the point, dummy
how is 3,200 an eighth of 8,800?
9000 / 8 = 3000
Stepping Solo B and Savagery Of Angels still look hard af on Medium
Beginner chart when?!?!?!?!
Armageddon Deathwish ikr
Select the easy chart and put the modifier on "Open Notes Only"
Brinch I only got the Hard and Expert Charts though....
Then... download the easy chart? Or perhaps you're having another problem?
That was a joke
THE FIRST SOULLESS 4 FC! AND IT"S DONE ON ALL DIFFICULTIES.
(I know its a bot, (For the memes.))
it is actually here, soulless 4 have been fced
i want someone to make a beginner chart of this so bad.
Am i the only person that noticed for the first part, easy charted drums?
a lot of the chart on easy sounds like the drums
Hard didn’t really change much but I know the parts where it did change made it a hell of a lot easier
Medium is harder on here than most normal songs on expert 💀
I would have to go down to Medium to beat it can barely beat regular GH songs in expert
i cant do hard either :(
Do you have a download link for that?
Same lowks
TheManudo00 well you suck
I can beat guitar hero songs on expert, some with over 95% and 1 fc, but medium looks impossible to me. Half the expert songs in main guitar her games look easier than medium.
Yet I'd still fail to FC the Easy chart
Even on easy mode you can possibly get more points than TTFAF lol
Back in the day when I was way into GH I FCd over 3/4 of the GH3 song list. I am fairly confident in saying I could get 5 stars on this. On medium.
They had us in the first half, ngl
Woah, I didn't even know there is other difficulties
Easy and medium are unofficial
Man it hurts to watch the undercharted ones
It breaks the musical sync that i usually like to follow in my mind when i listen to music
well, they are a bit undercharted because that's one of the main thing happening on lower difficulties back in GH1-GH2-GH3-... And compare to normal GH, they don't nesecerly do the 25% notes/50% notes/75% notes/100% notes (Easy/Medium/Hard/Expert for the matching difficulties/% of notes), if they was, they will do like this:
Easy: 2 251 or 2 252
Medium: 4 502 or 4 503
Hard: 6 753 or 6 754
Expert: 9 005
but, they do:
Easy: 3 495 (38,812%)
Medium: 5 607 (62,265%)
Hard: 7 817 (86,807%)
Expert 9 005 (100%)
So ExileLord released the true soulless 4 difficulty... Updated comparison video when?
Kinda funny to see that the song is harder on medium difficulty than most normal songs on Expert.
Uuggghhh where is the chart download I can't find it anywhere
For the Medium and Hard charts, it's drive.google.com/file/d/1welNPp9kIEq6xWYrE2TuVWdqZisyAuQv/view
Now I can finally (hopefully) play S4 without killing my keyboard. Thanks!
IanAC but what about the expert chart
Vargas, I gotchu fam. mega.nz/#!QrIVga7a!PjNZZ8rGqwRR81Z1_haaoZkmz8yoQuqL7oQtFCOPmmc That's both Hard and Expert :) and all Soulless songs!
gshnoozer2 thanccs bro fam
It might be from watching expert so much but I think I can do easy, eventually
For everyone that's saying that easy, medium etc, are really hard and unfair, well thing is, soulless 4 wasn't made to be easy at all. Easy doesn't just mean anyone that's played for more than a week, less or more, he or she can play it. Secondly, Simplifying this song more than it already is, would make it pretty boring, undercharted, and melodically incorrect for the music, the chart, and for the player, making it harder. Lastly, if you were more or less underexperienced, why are you playing soulless 4 when you know your not good at it, much less Clone Hero/Guitar Hero in general?
I hate to be that guy ok sorry don't hurt me, but ooh do I wanna.
Martin Nguyen best I can do is medium and for that I’m out
Soulless 4's easy chart is pretty good, I can get about 85%, even with a keyboard.
Martin Nguyen acai said even If you can't fc easy songs you should try to play hard ones.
"why are you playing soulless 4 when you know your not good at it, much less guitar hero/clone hero in general?" BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE FUN, MARTIN /:
same
I probably couldnt even fc the easy one 😂
4 fc's at the same time, nice.
Can i have the Download Links to The hard and Expert Charts?
I am Too Lazy to Find them on my Own.
Just use the Easy/Medium chart in the description, it has all 4 of the difficulties.
Hm. Thanks.
Easy=easy
Medium=hard
Hard=wtf is this
Expert=can I go home
I only play fuitar hero in expert, but I'd probably fail this song on medium.
even on easy it's kinda hard for a medium player. ._.
Imma go for the medium difficulty fc, I’ll upload it a progression
do yall think medium is possible to fc on a controller? my guitar broke
for easy and medium, probally.
If chimneys are possible on controller, then yes
@@senseispud2197 i ended up buying a new guitar. still cant fc it lmao
Looking at the 'easy' chart reminded me of why I quit rhythm games.
why is sickness b harder on "hard" than it is on expert
(Sorry for late reply) Actually, it's not harder on hard. Most of the HOPO chords are followed by a single note which is the lowest color of the chords. Thus, you only have to let go of one fret, instead of both frets which you have to do on Expert.
hard and expert seem pretty similar.
cheeseman both were made by exilelord so they were intentional to be similar. Just hard is slightly easier to Fc
It's always been like that. Expert doesn't add another fret, and usually features the same things as Hard but at a slightly increased. intensity.
@@KunouFox "both were made by exilelord" bruh i know i'm a year late but iirc the hard chart was made by plumato. so uhhh
238firetree still it’s the “official” hard chart
Hard is like normal
Easy Mode: 3495 notes: 39% of the notes are there| 809,374 points
Normal Mode: 5607 notes: 62% of the notes are there| 1,284,238 points
Hard Mode: 7817 notes: _86%_ of the notes are there| 1,788,862 points
Expert Mode: 9005 notes: *100%* of the notes are there| 2,079,014 points
I'd like it if you could maybe remove the audio and replace it with just one audio track of soulless 4?
This video is satisfying, I don't know why...
Eh. Not done very well IMO. Hard could pass off as an expert song, medium could pass off as a hard song (Expert in some parts 😕) and easy could pass as a medium. The other difficulties are too similar to the expert track. For progression it would be nice but you shouldn’t have to learn expert techniques to pass a song on medium.
Dusty365365 you are aware that the easy and medium are unofficial? The expert and hard charts are officially made by exilelord. It’s not he point of “medium should be this hard and easy
Should be easy.” As you can see with the official charts, hard was just made to be an easier version of expert, not made to be a “hard” guitar hero chart
ѕѕ · Denn Of course I’m aware. You can legitimately argue that it doesn’t matter because only the expert track is official (Yes, the only official. ExileLord only made the expert track.) but I’m saying that there’s work to be done to differentiate further from expert by the other tracks. I’m sorry you disapprove of my comment, but other than just defending the tracks, what are you arguing?
Honestly I feel the hard chart is in a good spot right now. I can comfortably get myself up to 96-98% tops. There are parts I still have to practise, such as murderous and some others, but I genuinely feel like SL4 on hard is fine as is. Any "easier" (because I'm not saying it's easy), would defeat the purpose of it being a proper challenge for those mad enough to try.
ahem* *Machinations A*
Isn’t the point of easier difficulties to prepare you to move up to harder ones? I personally feel like while easy is by no means a beginner track, it’s definitely one that you would practice as you prepare to move on to medium. Moving to the medium chart specifically may not happen right away, but it sure is a good test of skills you’ve built up, and a good challenge to reveal what you still need practice on. I’m personally okay with all three of the lower difficulty charts.
Now add the "if soulless 4 wasn't undercharted" ultra-expert
you should do this again but with the midi perfect chart exile just posted. it makes expert look like it's easy
Aw everyone is starting to care about lower difficulties (great becoming mature for once guys)
Lord knows I suck😂, thanks I need this
Aight, my pb soulless 4 medium (top right) is 605k, the top score is like 1.2 mil, and I have a 82%on it WITH STAR POWER. Sooo
Ironically, my PB on Easy is 803k, with a 97% and an Outro FC.
I have the new top score at like 1.462m
The closest I got to FCing the Hard chart here was -11 with a 4000+ note streak. I could never get any closer and I've been trying for a year. Lol...
Where's mc haggas-man I need to talk to him
I can't recognise it without heavy strumming in the background.
And then there's the overchart.
Why is the audio so out of sync
Garidex That’s just you
The medium chart looks harder than the hard chart for stepping b
i approve of the easy chart
Hard is waaayyy to difficult
You know it’s the hardest song in Guitar hero when hard and expert are the same
I think I can get 90%
On medium
I think i can get 47
*on easy with open notes*
Why does Soulless 5 seem easier than this
Maybe we should make new difficulties for songs like this, cuz i'd say that medium looks like an expert to me and that expert is more like "why are you doing this"
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
i am a beginner at clone hero, just play around 2 months ago, im gonna try soulless 4 in medium chart, looks interesting and funny to play
easy mode, also known as "i just got into CH because of streamers but i cant do the shit they do yet so i gotta start small but playing the same hard songs"
Even medium looks hard
obese rat if you know how to do thrills stepping solo b is way easier on hard then on medium you. still have to do the hard one hand on medium
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
soulless 4 is far more intimidating than S5
The easy difficulty is quite hard when the double strum notes come in. I couldn’t play this song even if I tried on easy!
well, it still respect the "3 colors only" of easy difficulty of the 1st GH's, but as the name suggest, it should not be easy at all.
Hard looks like a ton of fun in my opinion. It has most of the elements of expert but the tapping doesn't require the 6 or 7 finger tapping skill like expert does and that's what I cannot do.
Um yeah the medium chart is just
Brutal
The moment I saw Savagery of Angels I was just like "NOPE"
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
The HARD chart is incredibly horrible. You gotta turn 16th note into 8th and so on.
It's great for people that are just under the level of playing the Expert chart. I guess kinda like an Expert Minus. I find it actually fun, not overly hard but not too easy for me personally. I found S5's Hard chart boring in comparison, even tho it is better in terms of difficulty progression.
Here before 5k wait till this has a million
It'll never have a million views. GH community isn't particularly big.
Maybe in a few years or so.
Guess it depends on whether or not the algorithm boosts this video.
So when are we gonna get the soulless 5 difficulty comparison
Soon.
What about the Tutorial difficulty?
Medium still looks really fucking hard!
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
medium feels like the only fair representation of a rhythm game chart for this song. easy may be challenging, but its clear that it's been dumbed down. meanwhile i can spot countless unnecessary extra notes in hard and expert that make it clearly feel like this song was just designed to be a bullshit difficulty rhythm game challenge, rather than it's own song that was charted naturally.
medium feels like it keeps everything that is necessary, and throws away the bullshit that ONLY exists to make the map harder.
although i do like the variation in patterns i'm seeing across difficulties.
i'd imagine you could repurpose 'medium' into both an ACTUAL medium chart as well as a hard chart. then you can perhaps use this 'hard' for expert, and i guess keep the easy? but it kinda feels a little TOO easy..
The song was designed to be a bullshit difficulty rhythm game challenge. Expert is actually missing some notes from the original song too hah
i am conscious of this fact
personally I think easy chart is fine
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
So just for background sake, I have beaten GH 2, 3, 80'S, Aerosmith, and RB 1, 2, ACDC and Beatles on expert modes.Id be stretching to beat this on hard I would imagine
Well, the base music for the games are quite tame compared to almost any GH/CH custom
Yeah, I definitely could not pass that easy chart.
Undercharting note groups of 4 as triplets makes no sense.
The quads are usually sixteenth notes or eighth notes and the trips are usually eighth note triplets or quarter note triplets. 4 sixteenths equal 3 eighth note triplets and 4 eighths equal 3 quarter note triplets, so I’d say it makes a lot of sense.
I thought no one has FC’d the expert chart yet?
SgZ Vapor that is correct
Jordan Simpson In the vid it’s FC’d, guess its just a bot or something idk
Those are not bots! It's JasonParadise and Acai :D
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I think throwback a is my favorite part
if you still play easy just play bass
There aren't any Full Difficulty Bass Chart from what I know.
might just be me, but i feel like "'savagery of angels"' hard is actuall harder than the expert chart with all the wierd hammeron placements
3:33 note for self
Easy looks easy at first until...
Solo of a Robot A is a bit fast for medium and the pattern of stepping solo a is rough for players on keyboard or controller although I don’t know why you would be on controller
All of these look hard...
I've been playing GH for the past 6 months quite a lot but I would have trouble with s4 even on easy. I can't wrap my head around how do people play these songs.
Ernest Zamelczyk Practice mode
Well no shit sherlock.
Ernest Zamelczyk if you've been playing GH for 6 years, and I've been playing for less than a year, and can play and pass S4 expert then there is something wrong
Sykos Alt 6 MONTHS. Read more clearly.
THE N E R V E S
i have to say that the hard chart is not loyal to the games. if there is a hard part on expert, it would be way nerfed on hard mode. take jordan for example. the hard chart pales in comparison. The chart displayed is way too hard for it to be hard difficulty if one were to be loyal. exilelords hard chart is the same, but that wasn’t meant to be a hard difficulty chart.
this was uploaded the day after i uploaded my video of all four difficulties of soulless 4 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I tried looking up "Soulless 4 Difficulty Comparison" on RUclips multiple times, and nothing ever really showed up. Sorry if you think I ripped your content, my dude. Coincidental timing, I guess.
Dont worry im not saying you're ripping my content, i was just surprised by how coincidental these were
Great minds think alike at the same times, I suppose. 🤔
@@IanAC and @whamer100 i love this conversation
wait your souless chart has more than just expert and hard?
Hard y expert los únicos buenos
4 players eazy medium hard expert brutal
3:40 Yeesh
Daredevil song ? :v
I really like the medium chart. got 1,3 mil points on it. Xyphos is cancer tho.
I have the wr at like 1.462m also xyphos isn't that hard bruh
12:02 i’d probably fc outro f solo on hard difficulty
Hard chart is NOTHING like the Guitar Hero Hard it is.
It looks fun 😶
Where easy chart download?
Sorry, I just put it in the description.
So uhh, where’s the bot difficulty?
i would probably fail on easy...
While easy looks too simple, medium also looks too hard, so what do I do.
This chart was made to give the average medium player a challenge 💀
@@DACARBOSS. Funny enough, I actually ended up adapting to the hard chart anyway, getting a 75% accuracy.
@@zacharytgmredsun nice