Yeah it's mostly just Improved Blizzard for the slow + any other ranged AoE for damage. Warlocks just have the highest AoE damage with seed of corruption so they're the best option for dps. The tank's job isn't really tanking (outside of bosses), they're mostly there to catch stragglers and lead them back into the blizzard, like the one mob which resisted frost nova, or they interrupt/stun casters. So you don't necessarily need a paladin tank, a warrior or druid will do the job just as well.
A warrior or Druid will not do the job just as well. A paladin is the best because they just hold threat with consecrate, and kite tank around the slowed mobs taking zero damage. On top of that they can do massive bubble pulls, and if the healer happens to get clapped they can still Rez . They can also BOP the mage or warlock when they inevitably rip threat at some point. Druids tanks are great for bosses dog water for dungeon tanking.
I tanked spellcleave many times as prot warrior...you just stay at the first mobs and look if any of them "pull" to caster...then you just taunt/stun them or try aggro them. It is hard and you will have to WORK your a$$ off. But aoe tanking as prot warr is completely nuts and imho THE hardest thing you can do in TBC. My second char. is blizz mage and doing runs like dps is sooooooo easy. I can literally eat/drink and have fun...as prot tank i cant do any of that...and after couple of runs you fell really exhausted.
You're wrong if you think they can't balance it. They just really have no intention to do so. So the fact that some players still think there's balance in the game or think blizzard is trying to balance the game means they are doing good business. They figured out at least 10 years ago that they can't invent new spells, classes, races, and items if they want to balance the game and they can't sell new expansions without new spells, classes, races and items. So they decided to not give a sh*t about the game as far as competitive PvP goes (since it's not balanced). TBC showed the potential of the game by taking the classes and abilities towards a goal of balance for the first time and the game had 10 million players at that time. Imo it was the best version of WoW because it was simple and competitive PvP with a hint of balance. And nostalgia contributes, like I said the game was huge at that point and people remember it as such. If they had chosen a different route then WoW would have become either the most popular esports game or the second most popular one behind counter strike. But like I said they could never have added DKs and monks and demonhunters and all of this garbage into a balanced game. So it would have been incredibly hard for them to sell expansions unless for example they sold out and put BiS items in the shop, which at the time was unthinkable because pay2win games were just beginning to become a thing and the difficulty of acquiring raidloot was a key selling point. Back in TBC it became obvious that Blizzard had no intention to "fix" the game. There was an insane amount of PvP activity and plenty of feedback regarding it. Instead of adressing it they created a whole new class and released a new expansion. So people could both see the potential and see that Blizzard wasn't going to use any of it. The Esports aspect was also negligible because you only had one tournament after the end of each season, meaning the entire game would change between the tournaments so the viewers could not understand anything that was going on in the tournament. Maybe if they would've found a way to milk the esports market back then, the game would be completely different today. That's why people made their own servers. It was obvious there would never be a better version of WoW as far as PvP is concerned, and this proved to be true and is the main reason why the TBC community became so big or remained so relevant that Blizzard no longer ignored it. Some people told me they witnessed single seasons of relatively balanced PvP in Pandaria and other newer expansions but the game never became relevant again. In TBC it was at peak relevance with 10 million players, hundreds of thousands of players enthusiastic about all forms of PvP not just arenas and not much left to balance. We were insanely sad to see "how they massacred my boy". Many ideas and communities of private TBC servers showed just how much potential the game had. Thinking back this was actually the first battle royal game, but it was a private server which removed all PvE objectives to turn it into that. Blizzard never used any of the potential and never cared enough. Playing on retail back then it was obvious to everyone, they wouldn't even ban cheaters and bugusers if they broke the rules in high rated arena games. That's how little they cared about the experience and how much they cared about money. Before I quit I actually used maphacks to make it impossible for arena opponents to hit me and IIRC they only banned me for 7 days after using it several times in arenas around a 1800 rating where people took the games pretty seriously. Another example is: TL;DR -> (Remember) the guy who multiboxed 5 elemental shamans in 5v5 arenas, he couldn't lose a single game, didn't have any real skill and they didn't mind the fact that this part of the game was obviously broken because he was paying for 5 accounts. They would let you multibox 10 characters and break the game, in fact they would give you VIP treatment for owning 10 accounts. If this and the fact that they didn't even ban bugusers and straight hackers in arenas doesn't show they never cared about balance then IDK. There were a lot of broken maps where you could jump up inivisble walls and they barely even fixed those because it takes money to do so. Seeing players use these while their team had 2000 rating and seeing that GMs wouldn't do anything about that made me understand blizzard.
@@HardyMetalliX Well yeah like I said they prioritize money so they barely work on balance and it was already obvious in TBC when players were bugusing in arenas and blizzard didn't ban them and they allowed multiboxing. Oh and even the arena maps were buggy. The one with the sacrophagus still has buggy line of sight and so on in the re-released TBC version lol. Watch this video of a multiboxer in 2008 he demonstrated how broken multiboxing shamans was by killing 20 players on his own in alterac valley. He was less killable than the alterac boss and blizzard said this is fine because he was paying for 5 accounts. All of my arena partners stopped playing when they announced WOTLK. ruclips.net/video/rmgMsDGyCVE/видео.html
I was playing Subnautica while watching this. When I heard the whisper jingle, I instinctively looked at the bottom left of my screen. WoW has me so trained.
@@karvakake what? This makes no sense. People leave the game for their own reasons regardless of whether those reasons are shared amongst a larger demographic or not. You sound like the sheep here.
As a prot pally main, this is way too accurate. I don’t know how many times the melee have complained they are useless and just stand out of combat for pulls
It almost feels weird to see WoW related content that isn't about the lawsuit, someone quitting the game, the poor state of the game or how some latest lore revelation is terrible. This reminds me of a better time!
Innit fam. It's not your fault. Just a bunch of horndogs at the office of a multimillion corp. Good times will prevail! Unless you give in to the bad ones... xD
@@Vanished584 Yeah I don't think so. 2 year old is what I'd said if I needed people to quickly believe me without question. Grave accusations demand great evidence, not just narratives and claims.
Should do one about revenge spec warriors leveling. The hilarity going from a weak booster to ultra chad mega pull carnage after the patch would be make for some hilarious content.
As a fury warrior, this video speaks to me on a spiritual level. Due to this exact situation (FROST NOVA SPAMMING), I have literally reached the point of becoming the cheerleader in the dungeon and stopped fighting. There were many less pompoms and a lot more swearing though. :^)
You should try dpsing and then moving your position when the mage frost novas. Or you know suck on you pity stick and convince yourself that it's not your fault. /shrug, you do you fam it's your right to play the game how you want to.
@@6ic6ic6ic With a comment like that Im not convinced that you have any idea how the mechanics in WoW work or that you even play the game. Youre just throwing words out because you think they sound smart. Not even worth attempting to address what you said lmfao
@@simytherogue You know frost nova causes mobs to turn to the nearest target and attack them. So you move out of the way. You're truly showing your 3head here while disparaging me about mechanics. That's ironic. Also. . . What big words? Are you twelve?
@@6ic6ic6ic Thanks for that amazing explanation of why Frost Nova is a shitty spell. I fail to see the irony you speak of, and I didn't give you the credit of using big words, I said "throwing words out". Your reading comprehension is just as astounding as your knowledge of when is the proper time to use Frost Nova. Nova isn't a spell that a mage should be using in a 5 man dungeon, much less SPAMMING like I said the mage was doing in the situation I was referring to in my original comment; the comment which YOU decided to reply to. No skilled or intelligent Mage would ever press Nova in a dungeon and you even explained yourself the mechanic behind why they wouldn't. I await your next well thought out response.
@@simytherogue This isnt classic any more kiddo sit down. Aoe farm is king and your antiquated take on how a mage should play the game is cringy af. More novas more shatter crits. More damage and more kites to mitigate tank damage. You really are oblivious to how to optimize the game. Time is money friend.
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i thought they would kick him but this was a way better ending lmaoo
Improve, adapt, Evolve !
Shame on you, killing the fury with frost-nova and then kicking him!
Kicking wasn’t as common as it is now back then.
hahahaha lucky get ress, cuz the release and run back is sick
He did payed gold so kicking him would have been wrong.
Nothing has made my day more than seeing, not a kick, but them joining him in sync at the end. That was wonderful!
The 3 cheerleaders at the end was weirdly hypnotic. Great video as always
It had a very James from Team Rocket vibe
@@kingsasquatch I love how accurate this somehow is
As a rogue I have always wondered how spell cleave dungeon groups operate... or at least any dungeon group.
The Blizzard + Seed autocannon were actually pretty much how it goes
Yeah it's mostly just Improved Blizzard for the slow + any other ranged AoE for damage. Warlocks just have the highest AoE damage with seed of corruption so they're the best option for dps.
The tank's job isn't really tanking (outside of bosses), they're mostly there to catch stragglers and lead them back into the blizzard, like the one mob which resisted frost nova, or they interrupt/stun casters. So you don't necessarily need a paladin tank, a warrior or druid will do the job just as well.
A warrior or Druid will not do the job just as well. A paladin is the best because they just hold threat with consecrate, and kite tank around the slowed mobs taking zero damage. On top of that they can do massive bubble pulls, and if the healer happens to get clapped they can still Rez . They can also BOP the mage or warlock when they inevitably rip threat at some point. Druids tanks are great for bosses dog water for dungeon tanking.
epic comment, lol at the guys that didnt get it.
@@Luchetee exactly :D
I “tanked” a spell cleave group as moonkin before, it was quite interesting
how o:
@@birb7661 Hurricane generates 1,000,000,000,000 aggro
@@sufifi sure if everyone has dogshit dps maybe
I tanked spellcleave many times as prot warrior...you just stay at the first mobs and look if any of them "pull" to caster...then you just taunt/stun them or try aggro them.
It is hard and you will have to WORK your a$$ off.
But aoe tanking as prot warr is completely nuts and imho THE hardest thing you can do in TBC.
My second char. is blizz mage and doing runs like dps is sooooooo easy.
I can literally eat/drink and have fun...as prot tank i cant do any of that...and after couple of runs you fell really exhausted.
@@richardhasek5859 Prot Warrior can try use thunder clap, but not as safe as pally use consecration,
I love how the balance of wow always involved a dartboard, blindfold, and copious amounts of alcohol.
Like bliztard's work environment.
@@HardyMetalliX Don't forget the female species to abuse... also part of ActiBlizzard's environment.
You're wrong if you think they can't balance it. They just really have no intention to do so. So the fact that some players still think there's balance in the game or think blizzard is trying to balance the game means they are doing good business. They figured out at least 10 years ago that they can't invent new spells, classes, races, and items if they want to balance the game and they can't sell new expansions without new spells, classes, races and items. So they decided to not give a sh*t about the game as far as competitive PvP goes (since it's not balanced). TBC showed the potential of the game by taking the classes and abilities towards a goal of balance for the first time and the game had 10 million players at that time. Imo it was the best version of WoW because it was simple and competitive PvP with a hint of balance. And nostalgia contributes, like I said the game was huge at that point and people remember it as such.
If they had chosen a different route then WoW would have become either the most popular esports game or the second most popular one behind counter strike. But like I said they could never have added DKs and monks and demonhunters and all of this garbage into a balanced game. So it would have been incredibly hard for them to sell expansions unless for example they sold out and put BiS items in the shop, which at the time was unthinkable because pay2win games were just beginning to become a thing and the difficulty of acquiring raidloot was a key selling point.
Back in TBC it became obvious that Blizzard had no intention to "fix" the game. There was an insane amount of PvP activity and plenty of feedback regarding it. Instead of adressing it they created a whole new class and released a new expansion. So people could both see the potential and see that Blizzard wasn't going to use any of it. The Esports aspect was also negligible because you only had one tournament after the end of each season, meaning the entire game would change between the tournaments so the viewers could not understand anything that was going on in the tournament. Maybe if they would've found a way to milk the esports market back then, the game would be completely different today.
That's why people made their own servers. It was obvious there would never be a better version of WoW as far as PvP is concerned, and this proved to be true and is the main reason why the TBC community became so big or remained so relevant that Blizzard no longer ignored it. Some people told me they witnessed single seasons of relatively balanced PvP in Pandaria and other newer expansions but the game never became relevant again. In TBC it was at peak relevance with 10 million players, hundreds of thousands of players enthusiastic about all forms of PvP not just arenas and not much left to balance. We were insanely sad to see "how they massacred my boy".
Many ideas and communities of private TBC servers showed just how much potential the game had. Thinking back this was actually the first battle royal game, but it was a private server which removed all PvE objectives to turn it into that. Blizzard never used any of the potential and never cared enough. Playing on retail back then it was obvious to everyone, they wouldn't even ban cheaters and bugusers if they broke the rules in high rated arena games. That's how little they cared about the experience and how much they cared about money. Before I quit I actually used maphacks to make it impossible for arena opponents to hit me and IIRC they only banned me for 7 days after using it several times in arenas around a 1800 rating where people took the games pretty seriously. Another example is:
TL;DR -> (Remember) the guy who multiboxed 5 elemental shamans in 5v5 arenas, he couldn't lose a single game, didn't have any real skill and they didn't mind the fact that this part of the game was obviously broken because he was paying for 5 accounts. They would let you multibox 10 characters and break the game, in fact they would give you VIP treatment for owning 10 accounts. If this and the fact that they didn't even ban bugusers and straight hackers in arenas doesn't show they never cared about balance then IDK. There were a lot of broken maps where you could jump up inivisble walls and they barely even fixed those because it takes money to do so. Seeing players use these while their team had 2000 rating and seeing that GMs wouldn't do anything about that made me understand blizzard.
@@herberthans7015 TLDR; racial abilities are still in the game, 15 years later. That's how you know they don't give a shit about balance.
@@HardyMetalliX Well yeah like I said they prioritize money so they barely work on balance and it was already obvious in TBC when players were bugusing in arenas and blizzard didn't ban them and they allowed multiboxing. Oh and even the arena maps were buggy. The one with the sacrophagus still has buggy line of sight and so on in the re-released TBC version lol. Watch this video of a multiboxer in 2008 he demonstrated how broken multiboxing shamans was by killing 20 players on his own in alterac valley. He was less killable than the alterac boss and blizzard said this is fine because he was paying for 5 accounts. All of my arena partners stopped playing when they announced WOTLK.
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0:52
I love the instant aggro swap to the warrior in range when the mobs when rooted xD
This is so painfully accurate I just had to laugh so I don’t get sad.
We need you.
Please, come back.
I was expecting mage to make portal and lock to summon him back so the war could break all his gear again
You can't summon person to the instance if the person is not in the instance as well. Your way of thinking works only on retail :)
@@rayquaza92 I think you can in TBC
@@mitlandir5761 sadly you cant
There is a Warlock so they could summon a closet to summon people.
@@mitlandir5761 you can only summon if the player is inside the instance you can’t summon if he is not.
Genuinely the hardest I have laughed in a very long time! Thank you. This hits wayyyy to close to home
Miss you. Hopefully we'll see you again someday
Holy shit I laughed so hard at this. The lock with the Gatlin gun seed of corruption was legit the best.
Bro, what happened? You just stopped when we loved them!
That end was just wonderful
My favourite sound effects are the orc grunts.
@Adrian Wilson Yes! It’s perfect.
Now every time I spam seeds in a dungeon on my warlock I can't hold back my laughter and people in group don't know why LOL. All because of you.
"/dance like no one is watching, /roll like you've never been hurt"
-Mark Twain
La canción del final más la ovación q recibimos los brujos y magos lo hace aún más especial y cierto el vídeo... Saludos!!! 😂😂😂👍
Greath job as always, glad to see you back guys:), thx for the vid.
Damn, I love that choreography! :D
I've watched this so many times since I found it. I keep expecting another npc to hit the warrior when he's cheering.
what a shame you're not doing any more vids :(
This may be your best one yet! rofl... the pain is soooo real!
P.S. Please don't stop making these. :D
I was playing Subnautica while watching this. When I heard the whisper jingle, I instinctively looked at the bottom left of my screen. WoW has me so trained.
An absolute monument of art.
I loved that music during cheer dancing 😂😂
okay... that was funny XD
CHEERLEADERS AHOY XD
I seriously Hope we're not losing this channel as well.....
why's that?
@@jaqenhghar2970 because all the wow channels are currently quitting over the game issues and blizzards scandals
@@johnuferbach9166 oh wow. I mean, I'm not active on WoW anymore. I wasn't even aware. Thanks for the update and reply. Man, sad to see that.
People should stop being sheep and follow "orders" of small loud group(s) that most likely doesn't even play games.
@@karvakake what? This makes no sense. People leave the game for their own reasons regardless of whether those reasons are shared amongst a larger demographic or not. You sound like the sheep here.
very sad, WowitsHard not releasing any new videos for a long time... /shedding a tear.
Amazing the last part!
This makes me feel good
My pet relates to the warrior hard
Обожаю, и жду постоянно новые видосики)))
This is the best one yet
Did i hear the classic summer event music during this? cause i loved it!
Ok but the dancing was on point
Not gonna lie. I actually found this cheerleading wholesome!
The only thing missing is the satisfying sound of those seeds bursting.
ROLF! The seed of corruption minigun reminded me of my warlock in original TBC. Yellow numbers covering the screen.
This is just awesome XD Would that you could do a cheerleaders dance to raise morale of the team XD XD
Legendary :)
I laughed and cried at the same time.
Holy shit this is so spot on
Those orcs hit like a brick! I remember having to pull them properly before and after Kargath.
Truly the CLASSIC experience
Great video ! Keep it up.
THE CHEERLEADING OH MY LANTA 😂🤣
Couldn't be more accurate. This is my experience as a Feral Druid LMAO XD
The ending was priceless omg
i genuinely miss this channel :(
Ahahaha..i almost spilled my drink :D wonderful!
Omg this was adorable and true
This was gold.
GLORIOUS
The part with the rogue is so accurate
When the warlock pulled out a minigun 🤣🤣🤣
So true! hilarious! The final dancing part should count Druid as well.
1:32 indeed, yep, it all comes back to this.
All these clips are funny cause they are sooo accurate
It`s so hilarious! Because it`s so true!
Beautiful
I stopped playing WoW for years but man is such a delight to see your videos since I can relate with all of them so well. Thank you!
this guy better never stop making videos lmao
(or make them for other games too haha)
Oh god, the accuracy of this...
He nailed this vid.
love it!
Asmon will love this video
As a prot pally main, this is way too accurate. I don’t know how many times the melee have complained they are useless and just stand out of combat for pulls
Hell yeah!! ZoKataCin Productions has a couple heroic BF runs, that place is a MEAT GRINDER!!!! XD
Back in the OG TBC it was 5 man DKs rolling through because everyone was a DK at that level.
Machine gun had me howling
It almost feels weird to see WoW related content that isn't about the lawsuit, someone quitting the game, the poor state of the game or how some latest lore revelation is terrible. This reminds me of a better time!
Innit fam. It's not your fault. Just a bunch of horndogs at the office of a multimillion corp. Good times will prevail! Unless you give in to the bad ones... xD
Lawsuit is scripted, people are gullible...and streamer's job is to spin and shape public mindset
@@midnightblue1874 the blizzard lawsuit is 2 years old, from the government. I hardly think it's scripted
@@Vanished584 Yeah I don't think so. 2 year old is what I'd said if I needed people to quickly believe me without question. Grave accusations demand great evidence, not just narratives and claims.
I miss enjoying this game so badly
Good one. Nice work.
Ahahahah. That insane bro!!!
Priest, get in there and slam out some Holy Nova's.
The rage warrior trying to tank lol
Should do one about revenge spec warriors leveling. The hilarity going from a weak booster to ultra chad mega pull carnage after the patch would be make for some hilarious content.
The fellgard one was dead accurate 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I like how a mage using frost nova on mobs is somehow the warriors fault.
Also known as "the rogue experienxe 32-42"
Fucking loved that gatling cannon seed of corruption :D
Truth. Cc was needed heavily in the begining..
And that is why I call out my frost nova 3 seconds in advance.
Супер!)
seems pretty accurate
That healers got it out for the warrior, didn’t even attempt to heal lol
Shouldn’t have to, he shouldn’t be in the group. They’d be better off with another warlock. I feel bad for warriors but it’s just how it is right now.
Go Go Go Go Go Go Go Go Go Go Go!
Cries in rogue
Yellow belt is epic details!
Where are you, man? I hope you're all right ) And thanks for your work )
What tools are you using for such animations?
This is amazing job!
the fuck where have you been, we needed your truth
As a fury warrior, this video speaks to me on a spiritual level.
Due to this exact situation (FROST NOVA SPAMMING), I have literally reached the point of becoming the cheerleader in the dungeon and stopped fighting. There were many less pompoms and a lot more swearing though. :^)
You should try dpsing and then moving your position when the mage frost novas. Or you know suck on you pity stick and convince yourself that it's not your fault. /shrug, you do you fam it's your right to play the game how you want to.
@@6ic6ic6ic With a comment like that Im not convinced that you have any idea how the mechanics in WoW work or that you even play the game. Youre just throwing words out because you think they sound smart. Not even worth attempting to address what you said lmfao
@@simytherogue You know frost nova causes mobs to turn to the nearest target and attack them. So you move out of the way. You're truly showing your 3head here while disparaging me about mechanics. That's ironic. Also. . . What big words? Are you twelve?
@@6ic6ic6ic Thanks for that amazing explanation of why Frost Nova is a shitty spell.
I fail to see the irony you speak of, and I didn't give you the credit of using big words, I said "throwing words out". Your reading comprehension is just as astounding as your knowledge of when is the proper time to use Frost Nova.
Nova isn't a spell that a mage should be using in a 5 man dungeon, much less SPAMMING like I said the mage was doing in the situation I was referring to in my original comment; the comment which YOU decided to reply to.
No skilled or intelligent Mage would ever press Nova in a dungeon and you even explained yourself the mechanic behind why they wouldn't.
I await your next well thought out response.
@@simytherogue This isnt classic any more kiddo sit down. Aoe farm is king and your antiquated take on how a mage should play the game is cringy af. More novas more shatter crits. More damage and more kites to mitigate tank damage. You really are oblivious to how to optimize the game. Time is money friend.
he is back!!!
Dude u r amayzing
I admit, you got me at epilogue)
Asmon will go out of his mind..
Can confirm this is usually how spellcleave goes lmao
hahahahah! Awesome as always!