Crazy Gin Palaces of Victorian London (19th Century Drinking Dens)
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Gin Palaces were 'perfectly dazzling' to Charles Dickens. A flashy show that was only a veneer for rough clientele and a rowdy atmosphere. They were hugely popular in the Victorian era and attracted the rich and poor alike to drink spirits, but the well-to-do were screened from the 'riff-raff ,' who came in separately for their dram, before quickly moving on to the next magnet of temptation. But, with numerous stories of the pernicious evils of drink (like the ones you will hear today) and the rise of the temperance movement later in the century, the heyday of the gin palace was numbered.
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CC BY - A gin palace as a temple of Juniper; The dance of death the dram shop. Coloured aquatint by T. R by Wellcome Collection
CC BY-SA - A part in the process of filtering local gin. The final part by Solasly; Over 50 Gin by Alessandro Perchiazzi; Princess Victoria Pub in 2015 by Alexander Williams; Temperance Hall, Kirkby Stephen Situated just off the high street on the B6259 by wfmillar via geograph.org.uk; Wrought iron grille SALOON BAR by Jim Osley via geograph.org
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I'm digging the longer format of your videos, and something about your intros has gotten way smoother over the past couple months.
Keep up the good work!
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When he mentioned that the gin takes away hunger pains, I used alcohol to stop hunger as a child and preteen and teenager into early 20's almost into my mid 20s. Am Anorexic/Bulimic. Alcohol also helped me throw up whatever I had eaten in "moments of weakness".
How utterly backwards that mode of thinking is. Frustrating to me that I cannot find help. Rehabs everywhere but nothing really for the root cause of what causes a later need for rehab. I don't drink or anything anymore but am still Anorexic/Bulimic and it took me a lot of years to realize that I was sick in that way. And trauma is the root cause of that behavior and I can't find trauma therapy either. Been trying for many years and instead consistently invalidated and ignored. Seems I would have to start using drugs for anyone to pay attention. Idk because I have large burns on my arm from a recent breakdown and you'd think social workers would find that serious but instead am left here floating.
Then people wonder why someone who needs help doesn't get it and we are blamed for that too. TERRIFIC SYSTEM lol
To add to this ramble, how in the world is there not proper care to prevent further more damaging issues? Not as if the information is not our there. Gets my suspicious mind going.
Addiction.. taking people away from their hellish lives and minds since the beginning of time.
Tbh if I didn't drink as a teenager I would have ended myself. It was the only thing keeping me from completely losing my mind.
Me too,and I figured out how to talk to people cause I didn’t care on booze.
This is not only history. Replace 'gin' with 'fentanyl' and we see that our cities today have the same people at risk, with the same outcomes.
Great point, alcohol still a major problem too tho
E but in time ride you must.
Vehicle you ride, ride you must.
Started out as an escape ended up addiction followed by destruction leading to an early death.
You are very correct be it opium, coke, white lightning, whiskey, gin beer, mj, Crack anything to change the brain chemistry feel better for a while until John barleycorn at some time of daily use lies to its lover and refuses to take you to the fun peaceful place well perhaps an additional shot or a change of drug will help. It does not matter the vehicle once you are on thst train you keep on riding until the collision of death
It does not matter whatever happens you get on another train until death all lights are out everything is gone forever until death do us part.
My thought, too.
As if it wasn't awful enough to always wake somewhere between the sewers of hell and the heavenly stars, Victorians were also crushed by the hand of their fellow men between the generous poverty of Gin Palaces and the clerical greed of Temperance Houses.
I'd argue that the Gin Purveyors were the evil ones. Although the Temperance people were, in my opinion, power hungry, "better than thou" types. Virtue signallers and enforcers, if you will.
The Hegelian Dialectal. Problem- solution
My mother, born in Camden Town in 1915 spoke of the gin palaces still about as a child. You could buy a glass for one old penny.
1862 to 1867, my 2x gr-grandparents lived in Camden Town. The later Booth poverty map diaries, it describes their street as permeated by the odor of fish stalls, children roam without boots, general drunkenness by inhabitants, with prostitutes doing their trade during the day. But still rated it poor & comfortable.
The irony of philanthropists (lovers of humankind) hating on the very people they want to "save".
The fact is that gin is the only escape these poor folks had. With no break in the harsh reality of Victorian life for the poverty stricken gin was a quick relief from an existence they had no way of leaving.
I agree !! 100%. 👍👍👍
Life has been hard for the majority of people, since humans first walked the Earth.
Cheaper than milk..thats why was given to younguns
Right you are
@@maxpowers9129 Yep. I imagine some hunter gatherers who were lucky to make it to the venerable age of 25 might hurrumph if they overheard how tough the life of the Victorian was.
I love your narrating, it's got so much character ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
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A friend gave me a Hogarth print (Pit Ticket) the other day. He was just getting rid of clutter but I have secretly coveted it for years and he was surprised at my effusive thanks. I have been into Hogarth ever since I saw a documentary in the 90s(?) about The Rake's Progress print series.
I am so jealous! I studied Hogarth at University - if you enjoyed The Rake’s Progress try The Harlot’s Progress (sure you’re already familiar)…
The BBC (I think?) dramatised Hogarth’s story - I can’t recall the name but Zoe Tapper acted in it alongside that little bloke - amazing actor - again can’t recall his name :/
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'Feeling supersonic give me gin and tonic'🎶🎵🎼💃🕺the words of wisdom from Oasis of years ago....wink😜
Thank you again for taking us back to the lives of these poor souls who were held captive by the evil of drink.
Keep up the good work
You’re welcome, thank you. I’m glad you found their stories interesting.
They were held captive as superfluous by capitalism and given alcohol to drown into oblivion instead of revolution
Can't blame them but pity for the hapless children.
‘Drunk as a lord’ the servants knew the truth about the aristocracy. Basically alcoholism was the norm.
And the Defendant stated "yes I was as drunk as a Judge at the time of my alleged offence", Judge interacting" Don't you mean as drunk as a Lord".
Defendant in reply" Sorry your quite correct------------‐-My Lord.
Its strange having a "liking" for a bit to much booze, hearing these amazing stories from the real life in days gone by. Makes you realize how blessed we are to have the luxuries we have... This ranks up with the top 5 commentaries for sure. So raw and well read! Brilliant.
Thanks for your comment! I’m really glad you enjoyed the stories of gin palaces.
I grew up in alcohol environment, my grandparents on my Dad's side where already dead from cirrhosis by the time I was born, my Dad drank heavily, my relatives all drank, it seemed to be a man drinking was a big part, as I got in my teens I was drinking, it's done so much damage to the drinkers and to the family members who didn't drink. If I had a chance to do it over, I wouldn't have started. Brutal consequences.
Yes, alcohol is tragic for some of us. My parents were strict. They disciplined me when necessary, but when I was busted getting drunk, they were scared/upset and my dad warned me not to “become too fond of the booze.” And I was warned about “the family history.” That freaked me out. Of course I didn’t listen. Drank for 13 years. But I haven’t touched a drink since 9/27/2006.
I feel that warning labels should be implemented. As on tobacco. Pictures of yellow people and dialysis machines.
4:42 I love it how working class person from that period of history describes blue using indigo or azur throsn in. A proper curve ball that.
Same. My grandma on paternal side died of cirrhosis before I was born, and it took both my maternal grandparents before I turned 14
Just another brick
A good number of my ancestors and their decedents called the London boroughs home, from the 1760's to 1980's. Some lived there for generations, while others arrived & got outta there after a few years. I may know the names on my tree, but watching your channel continues to show their lives were far more complicated than I'll ever know 💞
You really bring your story's to life, you paint such a clear yet dark and hopeless time and space.
Thank you for enjoying the narration. It’s great you feel it brings atmosphere to the stories of people from the past.
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Really enjoy your uploads .you bring history to life.
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Yes, I'm not sure where some of the accents are from, but it's always a marvelous performance.
@@FactFeast Wonder if you would get more attention to these if you changed the name. Idk it reminds me of Buzzfeed(only the name- not the content lol) a bit and I didn't look at this channel for a bit because of this. Of course- I have no idea how to gain attention on here so don't listen to me either. It might be an asset.
I listen to them over and over.
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Thanks for the fantastic glimpse into a shady and strangely appealing part of London life; gosh, I have a horrible feeling if I was living back then I would definitely have frequented these gin palaces, they sound like a blast!
You really brought it to life, subscribed, Thank you 👍
Gin Palaces certainly sound like they were rowdy places where you would see people from all walks of life. Welcome to the channel! I hope you enjoy the content. Thank you.
if i had lived in the genuine hell of 18th century London i'd have guzzled gin every single day of my disgustingly short (just ~ 21 years) enslaved existence.
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That’s very kind of you! I’m glad you find the history here worthwhile 😊
I saw a video recently about someone who studied addiction in rats. The normal method was to put a rat in a small cage with two bottles of water, one containing drugs. The result - a dead rat who drank the drugged water constantly until they overdosed.
So someone then tried doing it with a bunch of rats in a luxury cage. They gave them a huge space to run around in, toys, nesting material, lots of beds and things to distract them, as well as a lot of other rats to socialise with. The result was that while some rats would occasionally drink the drugged water, they would prefer the normal water. No rats overdosed, and no addictive behaviour was observed.
Its almost as if the situation was that if people were happy, they would not seek whatever means of escape from the misery they have, however self destructive it is. 🤔 Odd that. Anyway, back to working 60+ hours to keep my head above water as the government urinates money down the drain on vanity projects as the world catches fire around us.
Yeah, I saw a study like that they gave them the choice of the nice cage, the sugar water or the drugged water.
They chose the sugar water 100 percent over and over.
Interestingly, When sugar water was removed they chose the luxury interesting house.
This is precisely why alcoholism is a problem in cold countries such as scandinavian countries, the UK, eastern europe, russia etc.
Cannot describe in words how much I love and identify with this comment.
Choices, you're describing choices. Character is defined by them. Rich or poor, lucky or luckless.
LOL! " Gin will Make Sin!" Love me a good Seagram's or Tanguray and Tonic or a Gin Ricky! A lovely dry Martini w/ olive!
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Excellent narration and a delightful history of drunken humanity. No wonder we've not made good decisions as a species.
I’m glad you enjoyed the presentation, thank you. I have another video on my channel about the Victorians and drink should you be interested.
The discovery of beer ushered on the advent of agriculture... so there's that though.
Next time im having a few at my local stop i shant comment on the semi clean glass im about to drink from. Thouroghly enjoy all episodes. Thanks for such civilized entertainment.
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People preferred alcohol to other drugs in those days. Opium and laudanum were legally available everywhere, but the masses didn't bother with that for some reason. Today, drugs have surpassed alcohol as a major social problem.
Cause alcohol is so ingrained in our culture, be it UK, OR America.
It is almost expected in some countries to take a drink after work with coworkers.
And it is acceptable. Unlike opium or laudanum.
Even bored women with their sherry was ok even then. Sherry isn't booze in their minds.
And opium probably wasn't a penny
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Heck yea! Love trying to get as much info on the Gin Craze. Crazy to see how a liquid became such a big issue back then and all the different ways they tried to sneak and hide selling it. Another excellent video thank you! 👍👍
My pleasure! I’m glad the subject was interesting.
Let us not forget that drinking water was not clean and safe to drink as we know it and alcohol was a hunger supresent and cheap to escape the tedium and poverty of the poor.
Drink blotted out the sheer misery of their lives I expect.
@christinehall6441 if I lived in the U.K. I'd have to drink everyday...
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Great narration to match the wonderfully retro illustrations. A brief moment of immersion in a boisterous, roiling, grog-soaked gin palace.
Great illustrations! I love old cartooning and periodical illustration. Oh yeah, I also love gin.🥴
It’s great that you enjoyed the presentation! Gin Palaces were depicted as bright, colourful and (according to Charles Dickens) dazzling. Thank you for your comment.
Thanks for the vid!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing the history on people lifes! the poor and lost ! Living in London! And the Gin house's Drinking Dens ! Very interesting love the voice overs too! ..
It’s great that you enjoyed the trip to London’s gin palaces and I’m glad the narration added atmosphere. Thank you for your comment.
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Thank you! It's great that you enjoy the characters - we aim bring life to history.
There is a gin Palace in Belfast that is owned by the National Trust. Stunning decoration but give the Guinness a miss.
Fabulous stuff. The old illustrations, and well presented.
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Gin and tonic/ice and lemon...thank you !!! NEAT GIN , no thank you.
3:41 “an account by Walter Bessent”
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that glorious beard?
Another great vid what a lot of people may not know is that Hogarth is the reason we have copyright laws as his work were plagurised so much that he partitioned parliament to make a copyright law to protect his works
I wish they would partition parliament.
@@curbyourshi1056 oops my bad I'm dyslexic so spelling mistakes happen
What is really interesting is how little things have changed. Inside the head of lots of Brits is a mechanism called Price of a Pint. It determines travel destinations so that Sweden or Norway will never attract many UK holiday makers. If you tell people you have been there, the first comment is likely to refer to this. This is a country where commercial health and sports centres have bars otherwise no one would go. I saw a church recently moved its services to a pub to boost attendance. That’s why it’s taxed and heavily regulated.
Good comment.
It had nothing to do with boosting the congregation.
But to do with the state of disrepair of the Church building.
One remembers being told in school,Drunk for a penny,dead drunk for tuppence.
Very good video!! I love how you do the voices ❤
Much appreciated! I’m glad you enjoyed the presentation.
Really great dramatic reading and interesting graphics. Nicely done.
Thanks for listening! Glad you enjoyed the presentation too.
Pernicious and salubrious...you're using some of my favorite words.
" Mothers' Ruin" it was called. I used to enjoy a G+T, but I gave up the hard stuff. Now it is just red wine with a meal.
Amazing and very entertaining, thank you for this video!
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I enjoyed this Especially the art the The narration It was Wonderful to
Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.
I cracked open a fresh bottle of Plymouth before settling in to watch this drama unfold. Never a disappointment.
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I hope you finished it in one sitting, neat, for the immersive experience
A good drop the Plymouth. Almost a creamy texture, if that's possible with gin!
Really enjoy your history lessons! Like the voice of narrator, too! 1000+ likes for your channel ❣️
Thank you! 😃 It’s great you enjoyed the history.
@@FactFeast luv ur channel, and all things historical. I fell down the Victorian rabbit hole CPL yrs ago... Been binging ever since. Your videos are well put together. Thanks again.
Good gin is wonderful
I guess I haven't had any yet.
Relevant username
Thanks a Brilliant Video From Blue
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Beer Rye vodka rum and various otherswere always in the liquor cabinet growing up but never gin. Always like it was a women's drink or only for drunks. 48 and only recently discovered I really like it!
My mum used to refer to gin as mothers ruin, so i didn't try it until my late 30s. Personally i like the flavoured gins, and occasionally pink gin
@@taraelizabethdensley9475yup.😂😂😂 find cougars drinking gin at the bars all the time. That's how you know she drives a jaguar and has daddy issues.😂😂😂
Great storytelling and character voicing ❤
Glad you enjoyed. Thank you!
A simply Wow production. Thank you for this. Oh that Gin!
One bottle in a drawing had a label with the words "Gin and Rue." Rue was a plant used to flavor liquors from what I've read and it was blue. So, the blue color of the man in the previous story could have been the result of drinking great quantities of Gin at that time and people of that time would understand his blue color came from that I suggest. I thought originally that it was due to a heart condition caused by drinking.
Very interesting theory! Thank you.
I think the voice acting is brilliant 👏
ps gets my like 👍and subscription
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Hegelian Dialectal: problem- solution. They control the outcome. Interesting that gin was the drink in 1984, and it was called Victory Gin. They still play this game. Drugs and alcohol to control ' the savages'. The narration and illustrations on this channel are wonderful.
I love your GIN voices!
Thank you! I’m glad you think the characters work well for telling these stories.
@@FactFeast Gin among the tribes of Arabia meant Demons who Dwell in the Filth that's where the origins of the name of the Liquor comes from
Brilliant narration. But 70s discos were even more degrading.
This was an appalling period of English history and to me is treated almost flippantly and much too lightly. Reminds me as to how unapologetically and off handedey the opium trade with China and slavery is recalled and described.
American history might be called American mythology.
still many gin palaces in uk except they call them pubs now and you can buy a wide variety of spirits
I know and people seem shocked with this ha haven't they seen towns at the weekend in fact this seems tame to tiday
Happy Sunday Evening All😊✌
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@@FactFeast Yw😁
Agree, poverty ... is ...misery😠😠😠
Great content thanks
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The promotion of the 1751 Gin Law was the precursor of the Temperance and Prohibition campaigns of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Man I wish you would narrate Charles Dickens!!!!
My mom's side of the family were bad alcoholics. We'd go to family functions, and everyone had bloodshot eyes and slurred their words. My uncle would usually be passed out on the driveway, and us kids would jump over him chasing each other.😂
'You may talk of gin and beer when you're stuck way out here.'
real hand drawn art throughout. so valuable nowadays
"Better food, better wages, and more employment..." Yes.
Gin and tonic with a slice of lime is a wonderous elixer with many health benefits.
You could say the same now! Just go to the towns at weekends!
How are you doing sir thank for your wonderful historical documentary channel we appreciate your great efforts as foreigners subscribers as overseas students want to increase our cultural level improve our English language as well as always iam gathering main points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s the definition of gin palace is English name originally for lavish bar selling later transferred by association to late victorian pubs designed in similar style in 18 th century the gin was popular arriving of gin palace in 1830s the motivation for their introduction was 1830 beer act who had purchased cheap license to sell beer over eight years its means too gin palace gaudy drinking house
They were indeed gaudy drinking houses compared to the beer taverns. Thank you for watching.
"Palace's"..cute name for the word "party"
Sounds like a fun place, let's go!
A guy i knew swore up and down that in his previous life, he had been this guy who pickled himself in the east end, london!
I bet he never returned to a cucumber once pickled
I remember while in an art class in school seeing the 18th century painting (engraving I think) called 'Gin Lane'. I didn't really think anything of it then. Years later I began to study the ear, the place, the people, the disparate class systems and economy's. Eastern London of old and some notable problematic neighborhoods like the area of St. Giles. How the recipie for cheap but lethal gin came down from northern Europe around ~ 1700.
st giles was not east london its near shaftsbury ave wc2 and clerkenwell green on the outskirts of the city of london (the square mile ) was where the gin was produced also not the old east end
Absolutely great.
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09:04 You must have had to be DEEP into the booze for alcohol to NUMB your hunger pangs.
For me, 2-3 drinks does nothing but INFLAME my hunger. Sad.
Escapism the 'junk TV, computer games, mobile phones of the 17 century..and yes I know some people also turn to tobacco, drugs and alcohol but people will seek escapism anywhere and the people who sell that escapism are often wealthy.
Gin was a consequence of poverty not the cause. It’s easy to think of easy solutions. Just like drugs it’s not a cause just a consequence
Awesome! Alongside this is NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS! Just Alley ways to go! Plus working women of the Night😜! Bathtub Gin!
There is a Victorian gin Palace in the old market area of Bristol
very good!!!
Nothing has changed
great vid
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Probably was a very smelly place were they drinked considering they didn't take baths. What I heard it was a effort to take a bath because you had to heat the water and fill it up one bucket at a time. Then empty it one bucket at a time.
Even queen victoria only bathed once a year and only if she felt it was needed. They had no concept of germs and thought it was bad fit them like the dirt was a protective
Many didnt heat it. And it was totally labor intensive.
Even in the country. they shared. So it was person after person using the water over and over til it wasnt worth takig a bath since you were in the muck of everyone else before you. Iean you got 10 kids and the parents
That is 12 people in that water. It is cold by the 3rd. Lol
Remember the gin-revival of the 2010s, is it just me or has it died down?
I don’t think it has although, the stuff they sell these days is milder than the stuff from back then I would imagine. It’s also in fancy cocktails now. 🍹
It’s still so popular! All flavours, all colours!
@@Polly-Galgo try RAWLINGS pretty much a Rough Gin Up
@@mgthestrange9098 no back then it was weaker the strongest at 30%
I've heard of gin lane. Really very sad. A child dropped to his death. Women stealing their childs clothes for money to buy gin.
Still happening today on a even bigger scale in fact all because they won't legalize drugs and ban alcohol the worst drug
Glassy society of the British Empire, bestowed on its colonies.
Called ‘Mother’s Ruin back then. No stats on the number of children born with FAS.
Jeez there must be thousands but they wouldn't have kept them so god knows what they did with them?
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The blueness was lack of oxygen. Wonder what else was in old gin since it doesn't do that if decent quality.
Yeah the alcohol was mixed with all sorts of awful stuff to make it go further, meaning more profit for the seller!
He was in withdrawal and then when had a drink he was fine hence the bad walking and shaking hands
Sounds like methanol or heavy metal poisoning from the still.
Wouldn't the people back then laugh at us today paying 50 pounds for gin And we like to believe that we are smarter today Hahaha
Back then it was kind of like Russia is now with vodka. Who could blame them when life was so bleak and miserable.
Great presentation of such a hard/awful time for us as human-beings. (Mainly Europeans) There are many places where this is still actually a reality for many people. What are we doing to help them? Governments don't count! What are you doing?
I don't want to know actually. I just hope everyone who reads this is already doing the best they can 🙂👍
You must be doing something really special yourself to post a comment like that.
A Major Problem, Drunkenness.