The Haitian Revolution - Fire and Freedom - Extra History - Part 3
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- 📜 The Haitian Revolution: Fire and Freedom - The revolution kicks off with such strength and ferocity, the French leaders in charge couldn't believe that slaves had planned and executed the revolt. The Big Whites, Little Whites, and Free People of Color all began infighting. Meanwhile, Haiti's plantations and mills were quickly engulfed by flames as the uprising moved across the island. But as the Revolution began to claim lives and leaders, the formerly enslaved people found that they were not immune to infighting either. But amidst the swelling chaos, new leaders rose. Key figures like Toussaint Louverture.
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oh man they were right when they said this was gonna be a mess.
I love the generals who sold out their own forces to slavery 😅😅😅
most certinally
@@stevencooper4422 I mean shades of Animal Farm much!? 😏
This is a mess,then why do I keep wanting to listen to it?
Steven Cooper into slavery* slavery is not a person
Everyone: "Damn, politics of today is so reactionary..."
France around 1800: "Yes, but not really... Nah, let's say no... Yes, we're all for it!"
"reactionary".
When you realize that humans don't really change all that much XD
Well this is in direct parralel to now
@@TheRoseFrontier My favourite thing about history is just looking back and seeing what parts of humanity have changed and what parts tend to stay the same throughout. Its very eye opening to realize that certian things happening today follow the patterns of things that happened so long ago.
Ooof
“Who goes there?”
“It is death”
"You are early, please come back at our agreed time"
Sisyphus to Thanatos be like:
Damn, this would make for an amazing political thriller. The fires of revolution sparking and spreading, the different factions at play, the infighting, the confusion. Absolutely gripping.
I think it would work better as a series than a movie
3:25
I just realized something:
They cut off his head! But he has no neck...! 🤯
lol wtf
I don't know why they're portraying Boukman as being executed. Maybe they can clarify in Lies- I'm pretty sure he's widely thought to have been killed in battle.
@@mankytoes I heard he was burned with a book attached to him
Hmmm how?
Can we all go to 7:19 and look at all there hands?
*their
And yeah. He must be wearing gloves or something. *smirk*
@@roguishpaladin oh took me a sec
I was just about to post the same thing. They're copy-pasted and the editor or artist forgot to make the white dude's hand white.
Hahahaha
lol
This is so complex and they are making a good job explaining the whole thing! Three episodes and we're just starting with the slave rebellion and we're still 13 years away from the official founding of Haiti. Keep up the good work guys!
you are still wrong to say that dr has no racist history with Haitians when your country brought Haitians to work in the batayes like property and the event of 1937.
@@SleepDaMouse-xd8dn such as?
@@siyacer they said Haitian voodoo had a goddess but Haitian have loas.
@@neonenayoy3997 have you been drinking?
@@ulisesjorge the past Haitian video said that haitians worshiped a goddess but haitians have Loa.
I hate to compare a violent uprising to Calvin and Hobbes, but the way this is playing out 100% reminds me of Calvinball.
I know, right? Sometimes politics is like that. It's something that happens
For me it's kind of like a horribly violent episode of Who's Line Is It Anyway. The laws are made up and the treaties don't matter.
There IS only one Rule to Calvinball: Never play the same way twice.
Slavery was Violent, The Uprising was Justice
Calvin and Hobbs
I really hope they eventually talk about the Polish mutiny in Haiti.
Yeah it's such an interesting topic and a good lesson to modern people that the definition of "white" is flexible, simply including whatever Europeans are in charge. The Hatian goverment would go on to dub the Poles "the white negroes of europe" because each group saw themselves in the others' oppression.
The negroes of Europe thing?
Yeah that sort of caricaturization has also been used on the Irish. It is pretty shocking to see at what length people have gone to just other people next to you. Of course Slavs in general where looked down up till WWII with Nazis even having goals to eradicate them. Viewing many slaves as not much better then Jews. And well.. Some of those attitudes still exist today. Especially with many Slavic nations once being part of USSRs sphere of influence. And is so easy to conflate the people with there government or a few bad apples. We often forget how much many good peoples from these ethnicities have actually contributed to society at large. Both in science and culture. Be the Irish, Slavs, Jews or any other ethnicity. The world get richer from diversity, not poorer.
There were Poles in Haiti?
This is Patrick during that time, Poland as a country was not on the map, however countries all around Europe were trying to use the poles in exchange for promising the restoration of independence. There were many of skilled polish soldiers at the time as well, many of which were fighting under French leadership. During the Haitian revolutions, France sent some poles to help fight the rebellion, however the poles recognised the french as the oppressors, and felt that the french were to the Haitians like the Russians/Prussians/Austrians were like to the poles, so they turned their backs on the french and helped the Haitians
Great episode, can't wait to hear more. Also I do like how the hatian revolutions are going sort of the same as the French revolution, constant government changes, changing aliiances, even the decapitations. I feel like they are different sides of the coin, with the French revolution on suppression and fear, with the Haitian being more on factional fighting.
How. This says it was uploaded 1 minute ago. How did you reply yesterday??
The Haitian revolution was actually inspired by the French one soooooooo..... Yeah pretty accurate
Well, all of this was spinoffs of the Seven Years' War, which affected nearly *everything*. It's insane how much was going on at the time.
two impressive revolutions. two brutal revolutions as well.
Every time there's a french themed revolution one must expect this: infighting, violence, melee weapons, brutality, etc.
When you see fires behind the man in the thumbnail:
Mm... This’ll be spicy!
Spicy borger
The Smug Face he displays makes it even better.
What dragged me i was the mans face XD
This water is too spicy~!
Yah that’s some real spicy air
How do you say ‘clusterfuck’ in colonial French?
"Révolution haïtienne"
@@korben600 😂😂🇭🇹
Baise de cluster
bordel
“Beaucoup baise”?
When the trees start speaking Vietnamese:
Americans: AAH
When the snow starts speaking Finnish:
Russians: AAAHHH
When the bushes start speaking Creole:
French soldiers: AAAAAAHHHHHH
No it’s
When the Ardennes start speaking Panzer
Quality meme thanks
Dìonadair Productions When the sewers speak Polish
Nazis: AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
*when the trees start speaking Vietnamese:
Japanese: AAH
Americans: AAAH
French: AAAAAAAAHH!
@@scl1332 Noice
The Haitian revolution had a huge impact on the USA fear of abandoning its own slavery policy
Drew Goin I hope they at least mention how the US reacted to this, and how the slave owning black emigrates were treated when they came to the US
Drew Goin I wonder just how much impact it had on the founding fathers, I bet they predicted something lose this was coming to the USA but didn’t pass legislation in fear of losing their own property or upsetting those who had so much to lose
There where a myriad of reasons the founders did not emancipate slaves: for the sake of the union; the fact that emancipation was a political rarity around the world; slavery was an uncontroversial fact of life at the time, even though most of the founders were against the institution; the centuries of accumulated laws surrounding the ownership of assets and right held by creditors . At the time of the civil war little had changed, but the world was emancipating because the British wasn't giving it a choice.
Britain, the global power, had decided slavery was an evil that had overstayed it's welcome, and the institution became an embarrassment to nations who held onto it.
It took a civil war in the US because the concerns surrounding emancipation couldn't be addressed beforehand, even though (in the abstract) the desire to emancipate was a winning political opinion by then. Nobody could get support for a plan to both emancipate slaves and provide a pathway into american prosperity, a situation necessary to stave off violence. (not to mention the economic friction between the north and south)
On the part of the emancipation supporters. Haiti was part of those concerns, but also the welfare of the freed slaves: an owned slave was respected as his master's property and largely treated an an agent of that master. A freed slave had no respect, even in the north ( the northern Blacks and Whites, who where rather well integrated and educated, viewed the newly freed slaves as unwanted interlopers, the Blacks were probably more hostile as the migrating slaves became a real threat to the reputation of the Northern Blacks, and resulted in Northern Blacks being excluded from their place in northern upper class society). Coupling that with the utter lack of schooling and meagre slave held wealth, the emancipationists preferred to keep their slaves in a situation where they could ensure their welfare for the time being.
Thus the problem festered until the north insisted on emancipation at any cost, the south took this as a attack on the entire southern way of life, and the U.S. was driven to civil war.
(i'm ignoring the perceived inferiority aspect, there's a whole difficult can of worms there too)
@@jaqssmith1666 Wow, every word of what you just said was wrong
It must be remembered that the USA at this time was divided into northern and southern States. All of the North had completely abolished slavery by 1804 and made it illegal, there were many abolitionists there and they basically cheered on the Haitians. The South feared it as of course there slavery was legal and many States were economically tied to it.
Americans at one point identified themselves as "Northerners" and "Southerners" in public discourse with almost as much or more relish as they proclaim themselves as "blacks" and "whites", men vs women, Jeep drivers and non-Jeepers today. Although just as today, cross marriages between members of rival tribes did occur (shamefully, and in secret) lol.
This is a pretty nice episode. Nice job covering this rebellion.
Hey.
Oh my
Of all places
Never expected to see you here. A man of culture indeed lol
So in a colony already divided between four factions who would repeatedly make and break alliances, we then get England and Spain forces adding another dynamic to the war. There's a real sense of escalation throughout this.
It is like the Balkans of the Caribbean.
Since you guys are doing a Haitian history you guys should do a Haitian Voodoo mythology on extra mythology
Haitan Rebel generals: Hooray, former slaves! Together we have cast off the chains of oppression! As a reward, we’re going to sell you back into slavery.
Its deeper than that but hey, remain ignorant if you want to.
Ashley jeez
@@ghettonae it's a joke
@@ghettonae another espionage feint? No other reason I see them being sold back as anything positive.
I wonder how all of that must have felt from the perspective of the people living in Santo Domingo.
At the time I can only guess, but when the army of a free Haiti roll over the other half of the island the words "oh, fuck" would have crossed their minds
Hold on, 22 hours ago? Damn I thought this video was uploaded a few minutes ago but you must’ve done something reality defying
@@AnimeFan-wd5pq Probably a Patreon contributor...
They're probably too busy celebrating their almost first year of Independence from Spain.
Ulises Jorge Bidó I’m pretty sure it’s a different platform that it plays on though? I don’t know, maybe you’re right
Saint Domingue: Ok we're starting to get a hand of this working together and not killing everyone thing.
A ship from France: Yeah we're gonna blow this up.
Have you ever tried it. It's hard, really hard.
It's even better/worse: the French Revolution went sometimes so wild, that when news arrived on the island 6 weeks later, France was repealing the same laws the day the magistrates landed on Haiti. And delegates from Haiti that went back to France to negotiate, were sometimes too late to get things done, because of new government. Some got imprisoned, some came back with results, seeing the Island was totally changed again. Even Napoleons will wasn't strong enough to the will of the Atlantic Ocean.
I would love to see a full series on the French Revolution, because it sounds nuts from the small bits we get
one six-part series could never do it justice. they would need full series for every six-month period, if not even less, for it to make literally any sense. I really hope they get the chance to take a crack at it, though! As famous a thing as it is, I was stunned at how little I knew about it until I listened to Mike Duncan's Revolutions podcast covering it.
@@Silver-Ellipsis agreed. French revolution is an extremly complex event that would need at least 12 episodes to cover up to the consulate.
5:12, that's a whole mood.
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Do you think you can add "final episode" or something in the title when you are done with a topic? I love watching these with my mother and grandmother but prefer to watch topic that are completed so that we can binge on a subject. That way we know if a topic has been finished or discontinued, please and thank you!
There's always a Lies episode and a video for the featured music for the multi-part series. That's their cue that they're done. If you see a number on a series (which is how you know it's multi-part), wait for the Lies episode and then you should be clear.
Lion Heart it’s usually do 6
Lion Heart you can see when there’s gonna be more episodes at the end of each video when you see all the characters and the chalkboard. It says what episode is coming next on the board.
Extra History (actually Credits is the name of the channel) sometimes puts them in their own playlist, so you can watch them all at once.
So, there is no faction in this whose leadership are against slavery on principle, including the slave's faction.
Then again, think of it from the slaves' perspective. If people writing your legislature won't even let your LEADERS go free and the rest of you return to slavery, why would anyone realistically think that they could achieve complete emancipation, even if they wanted to? It's probably less a matter of "no slaves are against slavery" as it is "slaves know that saying they're against slavery will not convince lawmakers (who are enslaving them) to... stop enslaving them".
Its stupid, because the ones enslaving these innocent people are racist fucks to begin with, and the slave groups are so jaded and brainwashed that they end up thinking they are better than other slaves or half-ass the slave freeing process or something else like that.
The nature of humanity laid bare is rarely pretty.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss "Animal Farm" style. ruclips.net/video/ITKfr1qOZ0w/видео.html
Also, "Rules for Rulers" ruclips.net/video/rStL7niR7gs/видео.html
7:19
White Man
Black Hands
NotRealJon don't mock it😂😂
This is one of the best videos about the Haitian revolution and it really is like a Hollywood film. Fantastic.
Honestly this revolution is still a inspiration to oppressed people today. These people judged their own fate and not the slave owners
So they chose to kill the children and babies of the slave owners, and that should be an inspiration for others?
@@bluntman1138 do you not think that the children's and babies parents killed the slaves babies and children? I'm not saying that what either group did was moral, but I do believe that it's inspirational that these men and women who were to be worked to death for generations had the spirit and strength to revolt against a system of violent oppression.
@@bluntman1138 The conditions of the slaves in this colony were horrific even by the general standards of slavery. You can't treat people like that and not expect savagery in reaction. Many of the former slaves, like Toissant, were not only not killing women and children, they made huge efforts to work with any slightly sympathetic whites.
@Coelophysis No, you're confusing him with Dessalines, very different men. Toissant never did anything like that, and never would have. Dessalines was a true racist who despised white people, but that was not true of most of the black slave leaders.
Remember, most of what we hear in the west about this revolution is influenced by anti-black propaganda. Take in other parts of the series, they are relevant. The whites continually betray the blacks and aim for re-enslavement.
@@bluntman1138 no I was saying it's a inspiration for oppressed people, I dont condone violence
cant wait for you to wrap this up i think you did a great job of presenting I would really love too see a video/ series on the 1896 battle of adwa and Ethiopian independence to further continue the the theme of revolution and african diaspora. but mainly due to the lack of coverage on the history of the horn of africa and far east
Ehh the animations are cool and I’d like to see how his presentation is
"Who goes there."
*It is death*
Another Extra History video.
Always appreciated
4:52 - Boondocks, anyone?
abcdef27669 how?
@@xx_donkeyfucker_xx7910 a fight always starts when somebody throws a chair.
I find it interesting that some slaves actually protected overseers who were kind to them.
"Why didn't we think of this before?" -Bill Wurtz
Oh yeah, it's already a convoluted mess changing like a kaleidoscope and we haven't reached yet the part when shit really hits the fan. This revolution is too often presented just as a simple slave uprising. We finally met Toussaint Louverture, which is awesome. I wonder will we meet governor Sonthonax in the next episode? The role he played in this revolution deserves recognition (which he doesn't often get because he doesn't fit easily in a simplified narrative). Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the upcoming parts. Considering how much is yet to cover this might end up being one of the longest Extra History series.
You know it’s a good day when a new EH video gets released
Oh, so fun. Just listened to the whole podcast Revolutions about this one. Just the fact alone that Haiti was a small French Revolution in another form, is just fascinating enough. Listen to it, 16 hours of material :)
A part of history full of actions bringing about one's own interest over others.
Given the turmoil in France at the time I'm shocked anyone had the sense to actually look at the economic numbers and realize the Free People of Color were utterly vital to the economy. The decree would have given the FPoC plenty of reason to keep the system propped up. Too bad for the French the decree arrived a few months too late, with that army and the FPoC militias they could of easily quelled any potential rebellion among the small whites or the slaves if it hadn't.
When they was watching in America this going on, they feared that they might do this in America
what
@@atable9393 he's saying that when the american south saw the Haitian revolution, the owners and governments panicked.
I guess they avoided a revolution for a civil war. instead of letting slavery continue and collapse in revolution they instead had a civil war to speed up the end of slavery or it was unsustainable. It was probably going to spread only if the slaves believed that they were better off free, which was not always the case not all slaves wanted freedom otherwise you wouldn't have stories of slaves refusing to leave illegally.
To be honest the nat Turner revolt was a small demo of that.
Well. The north and south do get into a brawling match that is the bloodiest in the history of America.
So it is even worst
Thank you so much for this series! I just became a patron, I have to support this good work
Epic video! Good job as always.
man imagine how much money you could make playing both sides here... or just making quality rapiers and swords which is why you should buy from the hollow blade company today
Obligatory: We need an tv show like (early) Game of Thrones about this. The burning of Port-au-Prince and collapse of the alliance could be an epic season finale.
I utterly, totally concur
No it needs to be like Inglorious basterds where they have them all speak their native languages and subtitle it
@@mixtapemania6769 that would be hard....it'd had to be in Creole for the slaves and french for the slave owners
@@Anime101HxH that wouldn't be hard at all. We have 12 million creole speakers worldwide.
Theres not many languages to account for, only French and Kreyol. Inglorious basterds had like 7 languages. Now, if we had to factor in the Taino language, there would be an issue.
From what I read (might be incorrect, inaccurate or just one of many theories) Toussaint was the son of a captured African tribal leader, and because of that he was given some of the less sucky jobs and was taught to read and write, and even allowed access to the library, where he got his political, philosophical and military knowledge.
Please do the Philippine Revolution and its continuation in the Philippine-American War
Suggest it on Patreon
Imagine if there was a unit of troops who only placed themselves on the cannon hole to prevent reloading
Please do a series about The Troubles in Northern Ireland, I feel that it is a not well known subject but signs of it resonate throughout the UK and Ireland.
Don't remember this from school... Man my school sucked
7:18 The guy on the right I assume got his hands dirty.
I enjoy this channel alot.
So basically, everyone was awful to everyone else.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss "Animal Farm" style. ruclips.net/video/ITKfr1qOZ0w/видео.html
I'm quite sure that's the official definition of history.
Also, "Rules for Rulers" ruclips.net/video/rStL7niR7gs/видео.html
Welcome to Human History!
Great episode.
I think you guys should continue to do slave revolutions on Caribbean Islands after u are done with this one
It's a shame that Haiti went through all of this just to be where they are now.
Desperation breeds corruption.
All were desperate.
The people who thrived rode on these desperations.
That's one of the ways nations fall into misery, regardless of particular circumstances.
Yeah, even once Haiti achieves independence, it's like tragedy after tragedy follows the country. It's pretty depressing.
Haiti has always been a weak and failed state.
@@0816M3RC Kinda what happens when you're colonized and never given a chance at proper state building.
@@Bladeofwar94 Nobody is "given a chance" to build a state. They make their own chances. Which was the other guy's point. Its not like the US managed to become a Superpower by getting help from kind neighbors, for example.
what a twist! I love history I can't wait to here more next week
Can't wait for them to mention Jean-Jacques Dessalines
Not the coffeeeeeeee
2:31 am here lol
Love this Chanel videos never change
More revolutions.... the revolutionary revolution is getting very revolutionary my revolutionary comrades
Would love to see you guys tackle the French revolution
One thing to note and not covered in this episode is that the Free colors and whites recruited slaves to fight for them, promising freedom for service.
Everyone: go to Carlin's Revolutions Podcast. He does a great description of the Haitian Revolution. This is very simplistic.
Dan Carlin?
Is this Mike Duncan’s revolutions podcast? I couldn’t find one by a Carlin when I looked, but it just might not be on Spotify
Can we have the sikh empire
Can’t wait for the next episode. I’d love to hear more about the Sikhs though
Thanks for the videos.
1:22 burning house "girl" meme still lives on.
I love Haiti now.
To all people who have never heard this story before, things are about to get CRAZY
This should be a movie
Damn those Haitians are badass
Thanks
Straight from Kingdom of Dahomey. The lady who trained Dessalines was part of the all-women Royal guard of the King of Dahomey. She was a real life Dora Milage.
@@andrewcorkery1347 Lol you haven't done anything or revolted why are you saying "thanks" 😂😂😂. Don't assume the honor or hardship of your ancestors it isn't yours. You sound ridiculous
@@andrewcorkery1347 He said "those" Haitians. Not "Hatians are badass".
TheCharmingNavigator what is there for him to revolt? If he’s Haitian then that’s it’s apart of his history you sound like a complete moron.
imagine thinking your only 5 minutes late to the video as you just got the notification it came out, and see that the comments a day old.
So Louverture was the only decent leader in this mess of shifting alliances, government changes, and leaders screwing over their own people? Wow, you guys weren't joking when you said the Haitian Revolution was complicated
So I guess you could say “Just when you thought this was going to be resolved in favor of the plantation owners, France’s enemies smelled blood.”😉
Damn I love the Haitian Revolution
France: has guns
Haitans: ima forget that
Haitians: Has a machete and absolutely no fear
@@K1ngKrunch I pray there comes a time when we both can forgive and respect one another. We should respect your land🙏 as you ours. All Love. Your neighbor 🇭🇹
@@K1ngKrunch I agree. I do... whatever progress that needs to be made to uplift Haiti will also benefit our neighbor DR. The idea is to move forward and Haiti really does need Change. Real change!! I pray for that every day. I really would love to see this happen in my lifetime.
DR is full of good people and I know both countries have a few things that may have happened in the past but the goal is to move forward with positivity. It definitely won't happen tomorrow but I know it will one day it will🙏 .
It's all love.
Oh you really need to watch the next episode
@@K1ngKrunch agreed only Haitians can fix Haiti. 🇭🇹 There is no other country in the Americas like them and if they organized this revolution against the greatest armies of the world (Britain, France, and Spain) and won, they can surely rise out of political unrest and poverty.
Plz make next episode a quick cus I can't bear the suspense!
“Who goes there?”
“It is death” the emo Revolution
I always wondered whether the whole "our soldiers go back to slavery if you give us leaders freedom" offer was genuine or just a masterful piece of political scheming. To the whites, it would sound like an admission of weakness and if you, maybe with the help of a masterful negotiator like Toussaint, get the whites to be greedy and reject even this offer (because they think the slave rebellion is weak and about to end on its own if they make such an offer), you, well, make them look insanely greedy, putting their greed over the wellbeing of many others and peace on the island, while also dividing the whites because there will have been many on that side who would then doubt the ability of their own leaders when it turns out that rejecting this offer just means the countryside keeps burning.
We will sadly never know for sure.
Thank you!
The sad tragic comedy of these factions interacting with each other, is ironic evidence that they are indeed all equal.
Honestly it's incredible that they managed to co-ordinate at all. Remember these people were from all over Africa, they had very little in common, certainly not a native language, they'd been systematically split up, then put under the most torturuous conditions. That people like Toussant could get such organisation in just a few months is incredible, I'd imagine they'd all just run wild.
7:19 look at the guy to the rights hands like hmmmmm
Continue to upload history videos please
That shit-eating grin on the thumbnail is legendary
My people wanted to be FREE and they was gonna make that happen NO MATTER WHAT 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹
Not as bad as Bolivia having a new president from the military every 1 to 3 years
“Who goes there?”
“IT IS DEATH!”
Oh, shit 😳
The Haitian revolution is going extremely NUTS
Wait until the Leclerc Expedition and Vicomte de Rochambeau enter the picture...
Oh no
Yea shit is about to get insane. Trust me. You don't wanna see what's gonna happen when Napoleon gets involved
My head hurts…
Alignment: Chaotic Anything
2:54 all hail the magic conch shell
never knew it was of that of a real chaos and leaders only interested in power ....
Extra history, you should do an episode series on chernoply
imagine strolling through the road to visit your friend in the city, and seeing just a line of stakes with heads impaled onto them... thats terrifying
I spotted a fair few left-handed handshakes in this one. Probably nothing, but it would be interesting if there's a reason for that!
Good video love it
the thumbnail just looks like a guy who's really happy to be able to set a fire
I just love your opening music...
Jeez that went to 1 to 1000000 in 2 seconds