Couldn't that be applied to a good number of revolutions in history? The Soviet Union eventually fell, but thre Russian revolution lifted it out of poverty, saved it from the Germans, and kickstarted a series of events that would lead to the collapse of the entire colonial system.
Santo Domingo was a really calm place. It was only really used for paper work/documentation and it's citizens were agricultural and mainly cattle farmers.
"Spain had not promised them liberation, they had offered to recognize that the enslaved had liberated themselves." That, my friend, is some fine word smithing and political phrasing.
And could be very useful for Spain later. After all, it doesn't say that Spain recognize them as free, only as having liberated themselves. Good loophole to attack those rebellious slaves later.
"To write our declaration of independance, we need the skin of a white as parchment, his skull as inkpot, his blood as ink and a knife for a feather." Louis Felix Boisrond-Tonnerre, Haitian politician, worshipper of Khorne.
The governor did not so much escape as the sailors on the ship he was imprisoned decide to muntany and take the city so they could sail back to France.
That’s why I will stay with this channel to the end. Its charming animations, smooth talking, and the ability to keep people watching are the best aspects that this channel brings. Most history channels are just people talking with some rudimentary drawings.
Extra Credits team... I want to say thank you. I've been in the hospital for 5 out of the last seven months with pulmonary issues. Watching your videos from all of your channels had kept me sane. Yes, I know this is a random tidbit of a message, but I wanted you to know: Your years of hard work mean something. Thank you again, John
Where is our Assassin's Creed Haitian Revolution? An isolated Island (making map design easier), wildly shifting political agendas, guerrilla tactics, multiple factions, intrigue and secrecy, etc.. Am I the only one who thinks this could work?
@@christopherhoward522 Well, guess that makes me the dunce. How have I not heard of that? Thanks for heads up. Let this be a warning to all who read: research twice, post once!
France and Spain have part of their border defined by a river. In this river is an island. Back in the day, control of this island had feudal importance but as it was IN the border there was a huge legal grey area. The 2 lords that had competing claims were on friendly terms so agreed to simply share the island which the French and Spanish kings agreed to honor. So now there is an island that is ruled by either France or Spain every other year.
If anyone is wondering why there were two European colonies in the island of Hispaniola, here’s what happened: The Spanish did conquer the whole island at the beginning of the colonial period, but they put a lot of trade restrictions and only allowed shipments to go in and outside of the island through the port of Santo Domingo in the south. Spanish colonists ignored these restrictions and traded with other countries they were prohibited to (specially the Dutch) on the north and west part of the island; to end this practice Spanish colonial authorities forcibly relocated all the inhabitants from this part of the island between 1605-1606, opening the door to French Buccaneers to move in. The Spanish made many attempts to expel the French, but in the end they didn’t have the military resources available to do that effectively and in 1697 with the signing of the Peace of Ryswick they agreed to officially cede this territory to the French.
8:13 that map is inaccurate as France had lost New France to the British in the Treaty of Paris(1763) and Louisiana to Spain in the Treaty of Fontainebleau(1762). The only holding left in the region was and still is Saint-Pierre and Miquelon. They may have also lost India by then but I’m not sure as I’ve only ever learned of the North American aspects of the 7 Years War war in great detail(I’m Canadian sue me) and the European aspects in passing
Just hit pause to say that the animation of this episode was fantastic, I’m loving the little movements that embellish the usual style! The tapping foot at 03:42, changing facial expressions at 04:09...great job 👏
8:11 Sadly, France had already lost North America and India by the time of the French Revolution. This map was no longer accurate by 1763. But great job Extra Credits, I love your work.
@@Omar_ayach The Native American were promptly killed by the English, who even betrayed their former allies the Iroquois. The French had always enjoyed good relations with native Americans. It is possible to imagine a North America with a majority of Native Americans if the French had won.
They got Louisiana back at some point during this period (Spain got it after the American Revolution, and gave it back to France when Napoleon took over Spain, which hasn't happened yet) before selling it to the U.S. after the Haitian Revolution. But yeah Canada is wrong.
I love history. it was my favourite subject at school except it was called modern studies for some reason and scottish history is my favourite history. Awesome video!
When the colony has 2 uprisings and 3 armies are fighting each other... only to end with France “Accepting Demands” and making their culture accepted and increased autonomy to bring down tension in the colony.
The Haitian Revolution was a successful anti-slavery and anti-colonial insurrection by self-liberated slaves against French colonial rule in Saint-Domingue, now the sovereign state of Haiti. It began on 22 August 1791 and ended in 1804 with the former colony's independence.
stories like these is what floors me about history people more often than not want to romanticize it by making it seem like those with noble goals are the ones pushing for better change and rights for people but in reality we bumble our way through a series of ups and downs until we have to do the right thing whether we like it or not that is how true human advancement tends to work
I'm aware of that but despite owning humans, some slave owners treated their slaves more humane than others and some even set them free after their deaths
@@francescocasillas4965 Yeah, but if they truly cared about their slaves as human beings they would offer them pathways to emancipation that didn't wait until the slaveowner could no longer profit off them by dying. Or better yet, emancipate them while allowing them to continue working for them for pay. Virtually all slaveowners had to be forced to emancipate their slaves in the wake of the American Civil War. The system is so toxic and dehumanizing I can understand how slaveowners could get convinced that slavery was humane due to groupthink, but that doesn't absolve them.
Slavery was just a common practice of the time. It was perceived as owning really smart animals to the people of the time, and in areas such as the southern US at the time freeing your slaves wasn’t exactly the best for them as others would fear these freed slaves. People like Washington were just following the social norms and didn’t know better.
A way too common outcome: revolution with good intentions succeeds, but then everything goes downhill, often more or less instantly, see also the French revolution.
Zimbabwe South Africa Nigeria Egypt Libya Congo....all went to shit after the Europeans left or were forced out. ANC Gov starting in 1995 to 2020, S.A. has lost over 10yrs average life expectancy....In only 25 short yrs. S.A. went from first world State to a third world failed State in 25yrs, let that sink in.
Tbh compared to what passed for 'normal operations' on Haiti, the worst possible revolution would have had a hard time living down to the standards set.
I've been saying this for the longest. Don't get me wrong, I like being American. But comparing a war fought over taxes to a war fought for freedom from slavery.....there is no comparison. In fact, the American revolution may have been the most successful in the Americas, but it is far from the most interesting
Good video guys, one critique, during the Haitian revolution even during the French invasion the majority of armed soldiers on both sides were innocent conscripted local blacks, with the small halfway destroyed by disease white French colonial force being the elite core of the loyalist army to put down the rebels with polish drafted men from the napoleonic wars, ( who ended up defecting to the Haitians, but that’s another story! ). It’s important to not make this just blacks on one army and whites on the other because it’s a lot more complex than that!
I love that across history, the British and the French don't care what side of history they are on. As long as they are on opposite sides of each other
thanks for the insights into the most chaotic "revolution" ever ... I am sure the chaos will not end in the next part. It is however a very astonishing example for "conflict of interests".
something i'd love to know is if any slaves in the americas under any regime made it back to their homelands, it'd be more interesting if they weren't first generation, similar to that of early liberia, they felt different to the people of the land they settled in
My only gripe with this is that the "gen de couleur" are all the same skin tone here as the Africans; even though most of them had majority European ancestry.
I have wondered of that too, they stated themselves that the free people of color were mainly of mixed ancestry. Maybe this is easier but it’s misleading.
4:25 I might be wrong, but I think you might have meant “A rival power who owned the _eastern_ half of the island,” not _western_ Sorry for being nitpicky!
I think it was a candidate at one point, but was outvoted by another topic. I'm a patron, so I'll see if I can dig up what it lost out to (assuming my memory's not mistaken). Edit: No luck, but I stopped searching after hitting posts that were over a year old.
Please consider including captions in your history videos. I personally enjoy them a lot and I know my parents whom only know Spanish would too. Keep producing good content😁
Quite a lot of this revolution can be summarized as
“Task failed successfully”
Couldn't that be applied to a good number of revolutions in history? The Soviet Union eventually fell, but thre Russian revolution lifted it out of poverty, saved it from the Germans, and kickstarted a series of events that would lead to the collapse of the entire colonial system.
@@petersmythe6462 true
You know things are kooky when Colonial Spain is the calmest group.
EU4 INTENSIFIES
Santo Domingo was a really calm place. It was only really used for paper work/documentation and it's citizens were agricultural and mainly cattle farmers.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition
@@theplaylistcollector2910 one*
Spain was the only nation that treated its American subjects like actual human beings
"Spain had not promised them liberation, they had offered to recognize that the enslaved had liberated themselves."
That, my friend, is some fine word smithing and political phrasing.
And could be very useful for Spain later. After all, it doesn't say that Spain recognize them as free, only as having liberated themselves. Good loophole to attack those rebellious slaves later.
Lol
This is big brain time.
big brains time. lol
the new slavery is micro transaction.
“The war of Muskets and uniforms was over, and the War of knives has begun”
Wow, gave me chills, really good quote
"To write our declaration of independance, we need the skin of a white as parchment, his skull as inkpot, his blood as ink and a knife for a feather."
Louis Felix Boisrond-Tonnerre, Haitian politician, worshipper of Khorne.
Oh yeah, that line was "Sink the Bismarck" spooky-cool.
Pretty sure its from fire emblem
Change Muskets for Bolters and Knives for Chainswords and it's a WH40K quote.
@@TheFiresloth sounds better than that unity is strenght b.s
the Big Bad has been defeated, but the True Final Boss is about to emerge . . .
Carona?
@@electricangel4488 The final challenge for civilization.
Oh, goody, post-game content.
Don't forget about the DLC boss
MECHA-LECLERC!
2:09 If I learn nothing else from Extra History, I learned that escapable prisons are an endless source of trouble.
Apparently the qualifications needed to be a prison architect were sorely lacking too
well maybe the governor was related to Kavadh
The governor did not so much escape as the sailors on the ship he was imprisoned decide to muntany and take the city so they could sail back to France.
It is almost like The Fortress of Oblivion.
Fortress of Oblivion
HAS NO ONE TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMATIONS? They are small but awesome and cute!
That’s why I will stay with this channel to the end. Its charming animations, smooth talking, and the ability to keep people watching are the best aspects that this channel brings. Most history channels are just people talking with some rudimentary drawings.
Simple drawings like this are the hardest to draw
why did they use the dutch and yugoslav flags all over the place
Everyone has. All the time.
There so smoth
Asks to end slavery in Haiti, accidentally creates Rights of Man.
Wait for the next episodes ^^
Just Haitian things.
@@electricangel4488 what do you mean?
tried freedom accidentally created the shittiest country in The bahamas.
@@checkcheck1579
What? The Bahamas🇧🇸 are a country onto themselves.
Extra Credits team...
I want to say thank you. I've been in the hospital for 5 out of the last seven months with pulmonary issues. Watching your videos from all of your channels had kept me sane.
Yes, I know this is a random tidbit of a message, but I wanted you to know: Your years of hard work mean something.
Thank you again,
John
John Askings i rooting for you man. I hope you get through this....
I love their history too.
Get well soon, brother
Get better soon man ❤
Where is our Assassin's Creed Haitian Revolution? An isolated Island (making map design easier), wildly shifting political agendas, guerrilla tactics, multiple factions, intrigue and secrecy, etc.. Am I the only one who thinks this could work?
Eli Carson Assassin’s Creed: Freedom Cry is literally about the Haitian Revolution
@@christopherhoward522 Well, guess that makes me the dunce. How have I not heard of that? Thanks for heads up. Let this be a warning to all who read: research twice, post once!
Freedom Cry
Eli Carson it’s a dlc btw
I agree we should get a full game that’s historically accurate not half assed dlc
Man, france has quite the habit of owning half an island where each side has the same name as the island
Any others besides Saint Martin?
It's not much, but it's still weird that it happened twice.
@@tobybartels8426 Not exactly the same, but they do have that half/half thing with Spain on the ile des faisans
@@deckeroful : That's interesting! Split through time instead of space.
France and Spain have part of their border defined by a river. In this river is an island. Back in the day, control of this island had feudal importance but as it was IN the border there was a huge legal grey area. The 2 lords that had competing claims were on friendly terms so agreed to simply share the island which the French and Spanish kings agreed to honor. So now there is an island that is ruled by either France or Spain every other year.
How many factions are in this war? I lost count.
I count 10
Too many Cooks.
Ello there Justin Y. of Extra Credits
@The Martial Lord of Loyalty
Dude this would make a *BAD.ASS* Total War Game!!!!
The Martial Lord of Loyalty don’t give them any ideas
If anyone is wondering why there were two European colonies in the island of Hispaniola, here’s what happened: The Spanish did conquer the whole island at the beginning of the colonial period, but they put a lot of trade restrictions and only allowed shipments to go in and outside of the island through the port of Santo Domingo in the south.
Spanish colonists ignored these restrictions and traded with other countries they were prohibited to (specially the Dutch) on the north and west part of the island; to end this practice Spanish colonial authorities forcibly relocated all the inhabitants from this part of the island between 1605-1606, opening the door to French Buccaneers to move in.
The Spanish made many attempts to expel the French, but in the end they didn’t have the military resources available to do that effectively and in 1697 with the signing of the Peace of Ryswick they agreed to officially cede this territory to the French.
Viewers: how many times did the factions switch sides
Extra Credits: yes
"A few more could never hurt, right?"
8 ♾
4:25 "...who owned theWestern half of the island"
>Shows East
Geography is perfect dont you?
Fyi the Governor was not imprisoned in a Fort but on a ship and he escaped by convincing the crew to mutiny.
That french reverse card is gonna be a meme
Germany: Surrender France!
France 5 years later:
IKR
I like the little animations in some of the shots!
I love how you added animation in this ep, in older ones you didn’t, and I just now noticed and I just love it!
4:26 - pretty sure that’s the Eastern half...
8:13 that map is inaccurate as France had lost New France to the British in the Treaty of Paris(1763) and Louisiana to Spain in the Treaty of Fontainebleau(1762). The only holding left in the region was and still is Saint-Pierre and Miquelon. They may have also lost India by then but I’m not sure as I’ve only ever learned of the North American aspects of the 7 Years War war in great detail(I’m Canadian sue me) and the European aspects in passing
The french colonies in India lost some area in 1754, but they were only incorporated into India in the 1950's.
Pas canadien! Québecois!!!! ;)
And don't forget that the British had also gotten control of all of Acadie by 1758.
jakarnilson that is true yes
@@Argacyan they were as good as gone in India....only holding on to Pondicherry in South India
4:28 that’s the eastern half.
All the reverse cards got into their heads.
@@roguishpaladin goddamit spain
Just hit pause to say that the animation of this episode was fantastic, I’m loving the little movements that embellish the usual style! The tapping foot at 03:42, changing facial expressions at 04:09...great job 👏
Yes same!
5:00 lol, VXI is not a real Roman number. XVI is what you were looking for.
Shhh...
VXI would be same as VI.
@@Alaryk111 yeah 5 less than 10 plus 1
@@Alaryk111 I got caught in some sort of weird loop when I tried reading it xD
Good catch
8:11 Sadly, France had already lost North America and India by the time of the French Revolution. This map was no longer accurate by 1763. But great job Extra Credits, I love your work.
"Sadly"
@@Omar_ayach The Native American were promptly killed by the English, who even betrayed their former allies the Iroquois. The French had always enjoyed good relations with native Americans. It is possible to imagine a North America with a majority of Native Americans if the French had won.
They got Louisiana back at some point during this period (Spain got it after the American Revolution, and gave it back to France when Napoleon took over Spain, which hasn't happened yet) before selling it to the U.S. after the Haitian Revolution. But yeah Canada is wrong.
@@Omar_ayach Yeah along the French possessions in India kingdom of Bengal was annexed by Brits.
@@Alaryk111 the French held orrisa in India.
Britain conquered bengal from the nawabs of bengal. Not France.
This is such an amazing D&D setting for a short campaign!
5:20 Somehow that statement amazingly understates the wackiness of the revolution in regards to that of faith
I love history. it was my favourite subject at school except it was called modern studies for some reason and scottish history is my favourite history. Awesome video!
The scots have history?...that was a joke
Honestly, I don't know how many times this channel saved me from my history teacher : )
When the colony has 2 uprisings and 3 armies are fighting each other... only to end with France “Accepting Demands” and making their culture accepted and increased autonomy to bring down tension in the colony.
France: equality
2 seconds later: no equality
5 mins later : sorry about that , equality forever now.
Yes
@@victorviereck4117 after a general massacre
haha
Love the series. Hopefully my kids will now know in a fun way the History of their Haitian ancestors 😆
I love your videos so much, brilliant job thank you for showing your passion for history
Thanks again for these videos about french history that is not in our manuals.
Couple episodes ago: "L'ouverture owned no property"
This Episode: "He had previously owned a farm with slaves"
This map of the french colonial empire in 1792 is just horrendous
ikr? Canada was british by then
Yeah that was pretty bad
Spanish: We're keeping you as slaves
Touissaint L'Ouverture: *aight imma yeet them colonists out*
The Haitian Revolution was a successful anti-slavery and anti-colonial insurrection by self-liberated slaves against French colonial rule in Saint-Domingue, now the sovereign state of Haiti. It began on 22 August 1791 and ended in 1804 with the former colony's independence.
The war of knives sounds pretty badass
too mutch blood
Sounds like an intense cook-off.
3:41 that foot animation though.
I'm eternally grateful for Extra History
That animated foot at 4:10 or so was much more enjoyable than it should have been.
6:12
Louverture has the freedom to smash.
I can't wait for the next episode. I wonder how it's going to play out.
Love this Chanel videos plis never change
1:25 was that frame by frame animation WOW
Not the only part! See 3:41!
stories like these is what floors me about history people more often than not want to romanticize it by making it seem like those with noble goals are the ones pushing for better change and rights for people but in reality we bumble our way through a series of ups and downs until we have to do the right thing whether we like it or not that is how true human advancement tends to work
you should do an episode about the neolithic revolution, please!!!
.... Spain controlled the east not the west
Slaveowners really were just the WORST. And yeah, that includes Washington. Jefferson, and Jackson.
I'm aware of that but despite owning humans, some slave owners treated their slaves more humane than others and some even set them free after their deaths
@@francescocasillas4965 Codeword: after.
@@francescocasillas4965 Yeah, but if they truly cared about their slaves as human beings they would offer them pathways to emancipation that didn't wait until the slaveowner could no longer profit off them by dying. Or better yet, emancipate them while allowing them to continue working for them for pay. Virtually all slaveowners had to be forced to emancipate their slaves in the wake of the American Civil War. The system is so toxic and dehumanizing I can understand how slaveowners could get convinced that slavery was humane due to groupthink, but that doesn't absolve them.
Slavery was just a common practice of the time. It was perceived as owning really smart animals to the people of the time, and in areas such as the southern US at the time freeing your slaves wasn’t exactly the best for them as others would fear these freed slaves. People like Washington were just following the social norms and didn’t know better.
@@danstiver9135 yea ik
A way too common outcome: revolution with good intentions succeeds, but then everything goes downhill, often more or less instantly, see also the French revolution.
Zimbabwe South Africa Nigeria Egypt Libya Congo....all went to shit after the Europeans left or were forced out.
ANC Gov starting in 1995 to 2020, S.A. has lost over 10yrs average life expectancy....In only 25 short yrs.
S.A. went from first world State to a third world failed State in 25yrs, let that sink in.
And the numerous attempts at revolution in China.
American Superiority has entered the chat
Tbh compared to what passed for 'normal operations' on Haiti, the worst possible revolution would have had a hard time living down to the standards set.
@@JohnnyLodge2 America had a "conservative revolution" though ontop of a history of self rule
Fear the yellow feaver....
No...
Fear the yellow beaver
This revolution is more interesting than the American Revolution.
I think they are equal in interestingness
@@akasrkin9366 nah this one is far more interesting
American Revolution: Let's dump some tea into the sea
This Revolution: I AM DEATH
@Pepe the Frog no
I've been saying this for the longest. Don't get me wrong, I like being American. But comparing a war fought over taxes to a war fought for freedom from slavery.....there is no comparison.
In fact, the American revolution may have been the most successful in the Americas, but it is far from the most interesting
Well, this is teaching more about the Haitian Evolution than AP World History ever did.
All you needed to know was 3:05. After that, Haiti was a lost cause.
Will this be the episode where things become clear, and the whole thing stops being a massive clusterfuck?
- Watches the video
NOPE
Thanks for this series, never realized how complex the Haitian revolution was!
Good video guys, one critique, during the Haitian revolution even during the French invasion the majority of armed soldiers on both sides were innocent conscripted local blacks, with the small halfway destroyed by disease white French colonial force being the elite core of the loyalist army to put down the rebels with polish drafted men from the napoleonic wars, ( who ended up defecting to the Haitians, but that’s another story! ). It’s important to not make this just blacks on one army and whites on the other because it’s a lot more complex than that!
This shit should be a Netflix serie, its more complicated than game of thrones, the difference is that this is real
4:59 Louis VXI...
Louis 5-11?
Louis Traffic Information?
You do great work. I thank you.
I love that across history, the British and the French don't care what side of history they are on. As long as they are on opposite sides of each other
I love your new animation for your characters, I hope to see more of it soon. :)
the world is ending! extra credits' animation is on another level
thanks for the insights into the most chaotic "revolution" ever ... I am sure the chaos will not end in the next part. It is however a very astonishing example for "conflict of interests".
4:23 you say spain owns the western island,but you show them over the eastern island.
Yeah, it should say the eastern half.
Eastern is correct
I love how you showed the people dying to represent the army turning smaller
something i'd love to know is if any slaves in the americas under any regime made it back to their homelands, it'd be more interesting if they weren't first generation, similar to that of early liberia, they felt different to the people of the land they settled in
Please consider covering the Greek rebellion of 1821. It makes the Haitian politics to seem easy.
"all french colonies"
*shows colonies lost to the british before the revolution even began*
oOf
OMG I never knew - loving this telling guys. Thanks
I've been watching this channel for almost a year now. The first series i watches was Genghis Khan's. Damn this channel needs more attention
Will you guy's continue on doing slave abolition on Caribbean Islands?
Probably not important but where did you find referneces to the uniforms for Britain, France, and Spain for this period?
In case you don’t know...the hats aren’t accurate.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Which ones?
To think that things are about to get even more chaotic next.
My only gripe with this is that the "gen de couleur" are all the same skin tone here as the Africans; even though most of them had majority European ancestry.
I have wondered of that too, they stated themselves that the free people of color were mainly of mixed ancestry. Maybe this is easier but it’s misleading.
It’s hilarious, take a shot every time the subtitles get Toussaint Louverture’s name incorrect. (Aka Lu Bhatia 7:07)
Awesome video
4:25
I might be wrong, but I think you might have meant “A rival power who owned the _eastern_ half of the island,” not _western_
Sorry for being nitpicky!
Alright now I feel sleepy enough to fall asleep
Literally just finished watching the last one for the 2nd time lol
0:03 The man with the brown hair reminds me of Paul Mcgann's 8th Doctor
3:42 why do I not see anyone talking about the foot?
4:28 That's The Eastern half mate
Good lord, this makes Game of Thrones look like child’s play.
Fact is stranger than fiction
How many episode are left?
Beacuse i will be sad when this series ends
Nobody
France: it’s time to revolt
4:26 I think you meant _eastern_ half at this point
3:05 I love what your artist(s) did here, portraying the whites as blacks, running on to the ship.
Can you make a video series about 1848 Europe?
I think it was a candidate at one point, but was outvoted by another topic. I'm a patron, so I'll see if I can dig up what it lost out to (assuming my memory's not mistaken).
Edit: No luck, but I stopped searching after hitting posts that were over a year old.
They would probably have to multiple ones: my vote would be for the Hungarian revolution.
@@GeneralLuigiTBC thanks for trying, I appreciate it
It would have been nice to know of the specific battles but it was a good episode.
Mike Duncan's revolutions podcast covers this Haitian revolution in greater detail, give it a listen if you are hungry for more.
As a Haitian born, I was impressed with his podcast.
Please consider including captions in your history videos. I personally enjoy them a lot and I know my parents whom only know Spanish would too. Keep producing good content😁
Thank you for covering this, why this never evrn came up in school, I'll never know.
8:12 the French controlled only a few ports. Their territory was never this big in India
Imagine you're a soldier in a big army and above you a voice goes "And those 6000 troops, they won't be nearly enough..."
Please do de fall of Canstatanople 🤗🤗🤗🤗
I love this :)))))
Man, they weren't kidding when they said the story got complicated after the first episode.
Please can you do an episode on the Black Count (see book by Tom Reiss), it would follow on very well from this
Excellent book
Me watching this video:
*No good guys, no bad guys, just business*