How to Deal with Aggressive Fighters
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2018
- Aggression is highly valued in many martial arts, so how do you deal with it? In this video we deal with aggressive fighters with a Longsword, but expect more videos with different types of people, and different weapons!
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Swords used in video:
Julian - Black Horse Blades
Masked Assistant - Castille Mark V
Music:
Village Consort Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Hey everyone! Reception so far is good and that's always a good feeling for us! This definitely will be a multi-part series, so if you want to see a particular archetype or weapon, please respond here and we'll stick it in the script list!
Pole weapons. I want pole weapons.
hahaha noted.
I hope you wouldn’t mind using the Rapier, especially showcasing Thibault techniques(I love Thibault and I don’t feel like he’s getting the attention he deserves)
About that part 1:25 I was wondering of those scenes in movies. The ones where the hero is forced down to one knee or some such position while the villain pounds down on them repeatedly (usually fueled by anger and not thinking straight). I was wondering how one might get out of this position or even manage to strike their opponent. Just a little scenario to think about.
Make a video on how to deal with a longsword while using daggers I'm a big dagger enthusiast
I’m a large aggressive fighter and compete a lot.
I wouldn’t really recommend so many moves that involve backing up , ur playing into our hands unless ur lightening fast on the counter
A far better option is to consistently threaten with the point , use stop thrusts and absetzen a lot and subtle footwork that constantly forces the aggressive fighter to reset
I agree. One big reason to be super aggressive is to make the opponent forget his "game plan" and react in the most simple way. I think it is one thing that would even work better in a real fight as in a tournament you are less likely to overreact.
@@Wolfenkuni Exactly. When being hyper aggressive, you're forcing your opponent to react. He's no longer appropriately responding. He's lost all control of the fight and is entirely on the defensive.
I thought this was exactly what he described at 2:18
Sometimes completely stepping out of range works good against umbschlagen (as long as it's not a zwerch umbschlag). Because this oppens the agressive fighter for a nachreisen action.
Second idea I had is just like you said. Absetzen. Catching the umbschlag and go for a thrust. The thrust will often not hit, but now you are perfectly set up for a nachschlag.
Third is for very experienced fighters. Try taking the vor with a zwerch. But it is hard, you need to get your hands high otherwise the zwerch/umbschlag of your opponent is going to hit you. It will most certainly only work from your strong side.
This is nothing that I came up with myself. Some is written in Lichtenauer sources regarding counters to oben abnehmen. Because that is what most agressive fighters will do against you, I thought I might list some options here.
@@TrickinNinja disengaging is great, but is not going to work if the agressive fighter goes for you and not your sword. If he goes for you absetzen is better.
In the end it is true. You need to do everything to break their chain of thought.
Cucumber!
NotMeButAnother next solo drills weapon video confirmed
Right?!
We haven't done them, have we? Right. Cucumbers. How to defend yourself against a man armed with a cucumber. Now you, come at me with this cucumber. Catch! Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a cucumber. First of all you force him to drop the cucumber; then, second, you eat the cucumber, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless.
NotMeButAnother hey man after 192 videos we have to have some variety
Blood and Iron HEMA fine enough:)
WHO IS THAT MASKED MAN?!
I would say it's definitely one of the female members just by looking at the physique.
Aurourus definitely a female physique. 👍
Hmm now clue
The best introduction
it made me laugh
Someone who nobody cared who they were before they put on the mask.
Did Nicole get a tan?
did u... USE that cucumber? :D
Cucumber?
Cucumber
I also hate those people who just start hacking like a lumberjack and go full berserk.
Tyander there's definitely *many* archetypes of aggressive fighters, and this is a big one. The 2nd example would be applicable, but it's definitely something to talk about
It sucks because many times, they win the match. Most people don't know how to deal with that kind of aggression.
The Fencing Luchador has been revealed...
Mask... shackles... dungeon... a large cucumber on the table... oh my.
Excellent points! I find that I sometimes have trouble using footwork for situational positioning like this! Positioning is always integral in the manuscripts that I fence from, as it often determines who will obtain the more ideal outcome in an exchange (i.e. vor/ nach; stark/ schwach; distance/ measure; etc...)! Footwork used to obtain ideal positioning for certain techniques is referenced in most late medieval, and all the way to Victorian, manuscripts (at least as early as Codex Wallerstein and Glasgow Fechtbuch [Ringeck gloss], which are what I read the most for longsword - sorry I haven't read Fiore), and is something that should always be heeded when learning and perfecting techniques! Also, love the new and mysterious Masked Fighter!
I have trouble when it comes to getting hit. I fear pain and I panic when I get hit, it's like I don't know what I'm doing...
May I present the Masked Assistant!
Yeah, I got him on Craigslist.
Maybe a video on types of aggressors?
I think some of us would find that worth a watch.
Good vid
For the longest time I thought he was saying "Jew and Juicy" at the beginning because of the captions lmao. Been wandering if improving countering was the best way to go but focusing on side stepping and foot work is soo much easier. Thanks Julian!
I love you dude. You made me wanna pursue fencing. Also you look just like my brother neckbeard and all.. no offense cus i have exactly the same growth patterns
In many of your more recent videos I have been wondering about the lower row of the medals behind you: Did one of you compete in a Bagua tournament in the name of Blood & Iron?
Wait why is there a cucumber 2:40
Hey don't judge ppl....it was wearing protection (JK)
"Stick em with the pointy end" ~ a wise man
This video is informative, and it appears my sides are now in Saturn's orbit.
When my partner and I duel
We use one-handed short swords (approx 3 feet long.) He fights by aggressively swining his sword, and with how light they are. He can swing fast. I am mostly on the defensive due to how agressive he is. I mostly do rapier techniques like getting low to strike the legs, like meyer.
Can you guys do a video on how to deal with people who fight like mindless peasants? I try to apply the proper techniques but it usually ends up in double kills. I find most success in retreating and waiting for an opening.
You said masked opponent but I wasn't expecting Lucho Libre over there.
*OH YEAH*
No no...you gotta put the sunglasses on first then *OH YEAH*
How do you handle aggressive attackers who decide to hit after the play has been called?
Joe Thibodaux just keep circling out and work on that withdraw. A big mistake a lot do is just stop and relax after they hit, when they should hit and immediately get out.
In my story, in the introduction fight, the inexperienced fighter thief charged towards my main protagonist at full speed. The protagonist simply parried the blow as he stepped to the side and let the thief pass by while hitting him on the back with his pommel and knocking the enemy down.
OMG! You're going to shackle that guy and you have a cucumber on the table! WTF! LMAO
In the dungeon.
how to deal with passive opponents who just attack with fast strong attack when you're in range and that's it?
Can you cover aggressiveness from new people who don't have good attacks or blocks and keep wildly swinging?
Oh that's easy, here:
ruclips.net/video/4DzcOCyHDqc/видео.html
Richie Demo absetzen
Nachreisen
Nachooooooo!!
Lucharaaán, de dos a tres caídas...
so,I Think the core is to establish a new central line and get out of the way of his advancement
That is a really weird cigar in the table.
My biggest advice vs an aggressive fighter is to stay calm and do your thing, Instead of being in panic mode.
What the video is about: dealing with aggressive opponents in swordsmanship
What everyone in the comments is talking about: *CuCuMbEr*
Can you explain the zucchini?
The Masked Assistant has a pretty good tan for a Canadian 8-)
They probably had to order him from Mexico.
I too order my gimps from Mexico, decent quality for a low price.
I dont know if I really want to know why there is a big ass cucumber on the table.....lol
but... why... i mean cucumber !!!
Bane?
Only one word for aggressive fighters, NARSCHREISEN!
what´s the deal with the cucumber? XD
What's the deal with the saran wrapped cucumber on the table!?
Now find an opponent that is actually aggressive...
My God, the very first appearance of my waifu, I have to save this in favs
*but why is there a cucumber on the desk*
no such thign as howx or aggresix or not, do, can do any nmw and any s perfx
Burpess Cucumber
Being constantly aggressive just means being more predictable.
but how do i deal with an agressive pizza?
LOL holly shit
only in HEMA the nerds are in good body shape
Vcs poderiam fazer mais videos de combate e menos conversa, ngm ta nem ai pra lições, so queremos ver combates.
sick cucumber
Masked man is okay but lets talk about that cucumber on the table
so why did you have a cucumber on the table
Random cucumber is great
why do you have a huge cucumber on the table ?
Is no one gonna mention the Zucchini or Cucumber on the table?..
How to defend yourself against the cartel's headsman
Doesn't Liechtenauer say, though, that he who displaces shall find no joy in the art, and to take the initiative and leave no breathing room for the opponent? Seize back the Vor if you're pushed into Nach instead of trying to defend and wait for an opening? I'm not denying the validity of your tactics but iirc Liechtenauer fencing literally focuses on exactly that kind of skilled aggression.
Mostly true.
Kdf sources actually give you advice how to deal with people performing an umbschlag.
Most agressive fighters do this, so that should work.
Another thing would be ansetzen maybe.
I wouldn't say that Lichtenauer tells you to avoid parrying. He just advises to do it in a different way.
A plastic wrapped cucumber... Any thoughts?
How to deal with an aggressive opponents is to wear shoes unlike what I have seen in your other videos.
What if hes drunk
이치고 call the police
So in for honorish you say, if your opponent is a centurion be a kensei?
Sound fine to me :D
Hahaha I haven't played in so long I don't even know what that means.
Is Conqueror still a way of life?
What's up with the random cucomber Guys?
Lukas Simonsen we were feeling a little silly.
@@BloodandIronHEMA That cucumber went up somebody's noonerhole that day. Don't you lie to me.
Can a person ever avoid demonstrating techniques by being one step ahead? I still can't get over it, it feels staged and I end up thinking "you went 1, 2, 3 but the opponent only 1, 2 :/
ZaxProxy I get what you're saying. This was the masked assistant's first time so it'll get smoother and more natural.
If you're referring to how I withdraw while striking while my opponent just sits there, then I'll point out that what I'm illustrating is that you should always withdraw while presenting threat. If in this video my assistant keeps going then I'm simply just stepping back and defend myself, which takes attention away from the primary technique since now there are two big actions.
Fighting is messy for sure, and demonstrations are not, but that's the point is that they're supposed to clearly identify a concept. If you make it more realistic and it looks messy, then the initial point isn't as clear. :)
Yeah, you couldn't really show it otherwise. Then there are probably stages before and after that show various reactions and steps on both sides so in context it makes more sense. This isn't me ragging on a specific demonstration or person, more in general venting. I bet it makes more sense two sessions a week, week after week. :)
ZaxProxy For sure, it's definitely something to notice.
The big problem with bad demonstrations is that if one person performs one or two actions before a strike is completed or control is gained while the other person just sits there.
We try to make sure to make the opponent keeps things clear by not moving while they're being hit and/or controlled. Best of both worlds :)
How many masks can that guy fit on his head!?
Um, why was there a random gay cucumber on the table? Lol.
Random cucumber?
i am sorry but closing in and wrestling at the sword is not "being aggressive". It's a fundamental part of historical sword fighting. A "double kill" has nothing to do about it. In a historical concept double kill was not an option, since all art had to do with self defense. What you most probably are doing, is approaching the subject through a competitive sports context (HEMA), and that's ok, but stll, has nothing to do with the real self defense system that these techniques and weapons were originally made to serve. With the functional, historical (whatever) art that was the subject of the past masters.Of course the past cannot be reenacted as it was but still, please, don't confuse fighting within a martial context with being aggressive or "bad sporting".
Double kills happened in history too. Especially later with rapiers.
Agressive is a word we all understand differently It is highly subjective.
If you have ever been a victim of a grapple in practice/tournament before, you will agree that it is an agressive act. I have been hit on the mask countless times and never had an issue. But I have been thrown and hurt my back.
It is also agressive from a grapplers perspective. If you grapple you need to invade the opponents personal space, what I would count as an agressive action. You need to overcome yourself to do it.
I would count grappling as agressive. Maybe you don't. That's fine. It is subjective after all.
nice english cucumber.
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Rude
Cucumber?