That's a very eastern style of thought. In music western vocalists coddle there voice. Indian musicians believe you have to "break" your voice regularly to strengthen it and never stop pushing it to improve it. I believe martial arts in Asia have the same philosophy of keeping building the muscle up non stop until it falls off to build maximum strength. Resting to maintain strength has long been a western philosophy. I believe japanese baseball players like sataharo oh the famous japanese homerun hitter had the same philosophy and Ichiro. Ichiro is one of the very few modern players comparable to Ty in my opinion. Similar style of play
Jesus is going to give us the resserrection (John 5:28) so that you can meet Mr. Cobb in the near future, and we can all live together in the New Earth (2Peter 3:13) and meet all of the deceased people from history, going clear back to Seth and Cain & Abel, Adams 3 sons.
This is actually the first time i ever heard ty cobb's voice and I'm really suprised at how little of a southern accent he was, considering he was born in 19th century rural georgia.
@@JustWinBabee he also spend decades living in michigan, so i am sure he had a thicker southern accent when he was younger, he just lost it either on purpose or by accident.
He clearly had a southern register, but as others have noted he lived up north for half his life at this point and that probably had a influence on his accent.
+Steven Yourke Yes, I'm very aware of Cobb's background. I am also aware of the inner turmoil he must have felt knowing that either his mother or his mother's lover murdered his father. He had inner demons, and was by today's standards a bigot, but he was a very intelligent man and moderated in his views as he aged.
+MICHAEL SOWELL It sounds to me as if he's reading his answers in the interview. As if he had been given the questions in advance and was reading his prepared answers.
@@jasondoe7655 Unlike other southern players, he never disparaged black players, and he fully supported integrating the game. While the late, great Buck O'Neill said that he had prejudices, he treated everyone fairly, and was no more racist than anyone who grew up in a society where beliefs in white supremacy were nearly universal.
Lol reading these comments are funny, here we are judging a man we never knew or where he came from, only focusing on the wrong he MIGHT have done but I'm interested in this... what is it that OUR generation is doing now, that future generations will only look down on us for? What is normal and acceptable now to us but in 30 years or even a short 10 years will cause us to be ostracized and outcast? Any wrong Cobb might have done I'm not excusing but who are WE to speak so cruelly of him, especially now that he's dead?
He was not a bad guy at all. His reputation as a racist and mean person are lies. His ancestors were abolitionists. He left a perpetual funding for black college scholarships, built an integrated hospital during Jim Crow times, staffed by black and white doctors and open to all patients regardless of race. He advocated for the integration of baseball long before 1947. Roy Campanella was his favorite player in the 50’s. All the untrue myths of his racism and vile character were totally fabricated by Al Stump in a book written as an autobiography that Cobb detested and denounced (Cobb funded the book). Unfortunately, Cobb died shortly after reading the book and his false legacy was sealed. Charles Leerhsen corrected the wrong with the flawlessly researched biography “Ty Cobb the Terrible Beauty”.
@MUFC soooo wht in the world does soccer have to do w/ ty cobb's investing in small american company's.........????????? how much did players like ty here make a week or a month or a yr., ..... how he scrap up the extra cash to invest in american small company's like coke & etc.,............ WE ALL KNOW HE DIED IN '61....... & WE ALL KNOW HE WAS THE 1 ST to be in the baseball hall of fame too.... what all else was he into in all honesty................
@MUFC 2070? I'm 43 now in 2021 so.that means ill more than likely be dead and gone by then. And I have to say ,thank the good lord, if what you predict comes to fruition. I got nothing against soccer. Its fun to watch during the world cup every 4 years. I get into it then and am glad that it only happens every 4 years the other 3yrs and 300 or so odd days. Baseball is America's sport buttmunch so.watch your mouth when talking about it. In the meantime go kick the Hackysack around with some women
@JD M They were not inferior, but rather superior. Bringing in people from other countries does not make it better, but worse. Quantity is not quality. the passing of time does not make one throw better than before. People do no mutate. Drugs do no make one better. Nor does smaller parks, and juiced up balls. You argument is lame. In 100 years They will still be considered the best. These folks today will not even be mentioned.
@Angry Grizzly I’m sure he did, but I certainly didn’t. He may have been a good baseball player, but he beat women, beat up a disabled man in the crowd once and was a horrible racist so I’m glad there will never be another one of him.
-OJJ--I would read about Cobb when I was 16 or 17, and always admired him. I read that one time that he was on second, he noticed that when the 3rd baseman got the ball from the catcher, the 3rd baseman would walk halfway to the mound, and toss up a lob, then walk back. Cobb waited for the guy to do it again, was strolling off 2nd, pretending to be just standing there, and when the ball was lobbed to the pitcher, Cobb was off like a shot, went into third standing up. The trouble for the 3rd baseman was that, when Cobb came down the path, the guy had to try and get back to third, wait for the throw from the pitcher, and still worry about Cobb coming in like a freight train on the loose. The 3rd baseman never lobbed the ball that way again. When I was about 34 or so, and playing semi-pro, I was on 2nd one night, and saw the 3rd baseman do the same thing that I had read about when I was 16. He walked halfway to the mound, and lobbed it to the pitcher. I instantly recalled what I had read about Cobb when I was 16, and took my lead off 2nd. My gosh, the 3rd baseman did the same exact thing again, and I went into 3rd standing up. The 3rd baseman's dad was in the 3rd base dugout and also the manager. he really chewed his kid out, and I was laughing. It took me about 18 years to pull the trick, but then, how often does that situation come up, and you are on 2nd? I would guess about once every 18 years. Best players--1--Cobb--2--Musial--3--Pujols. Everyone else get in line.
Many people don't know this but Cobb used to send many ex ballplayers money who were down on their luck . A number of retired payers did not invest and fell on hard times after their playing days were over . Cobb invested his money and did so wisely. He helped those in need. In fact as I recall he helped pay for the medical bills for some of those players who could not afford them . . Another great story about Cobb was that there as a young player who tied out for the Tigers and was cut. In a show of compassion Cobb gave the man his jersey to help sooth the young man's disappointment
drvn8 Shoeless Joe owned a liquor store. Ty Cobb visited the store. At first neither of them acted like they recognized each other. Before he left, Ty asked Joe if he knew him (Ty). Joe said he did, but he wasn't sure that Ty wanted to know him because a lot of people didn't following the scandal.
Interesting stuff hearing him talk about conditioning, reading eyes, and trying certain plays in blowouts in preparation for future games. Sounds like he played really smartly.
Ty was the greatest baseball player who ever played the game and at the time he played loved by his teammates and respected by his opponents. He was not a racist. He was brought up by family that favored abolition (while living in Georgia!) before the Civil war and who taught him that skin color did not matter. Cobb was one of the few ball players who spoke out in favor of full integration long before the great Jackie Robinson was allowed to play in the major leagues. All of the myths about Cobb were created out of whole cloth by hack sportswriter Al Stump and parroted by others, including Charles Alexander and Ken Burns, who never did the research and relied on Stump's fabricated history. To learn about the real Ty Cobb, I suggest the book "Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty," written by respected author and sportswriter Charles Leerhsen. Before writing his book, Leershen was convinced he would be writing a book about a homicidal racist ball player in keeping with conventional wisdom perpetrated by Stump's fabricated biography. While researching the book, he discovered the real Cobb, a credit to the game and a decent man.
True, but Cobb was respected by opponents only in that he was a superior player. He wasn’t exactly well-liked or befriended by other players because he was competitive to a fault and at times a dirty player.
Guys that attain that level of excellence (Cobb, Jordan, Tiger...) seem to have so much drive, competitiveness and intense focus that they probably aren't the most likeable during their heyday. Glad to see the Stump's account getting more scrutiny and that some of the more disparaging characterizations are now getting debunked.
If I were a coach, of any sport not just baseball, I’d have my players listen to this and take notes. Cobb stresses how important it is to cover all the little angles of the game. He dispenses some of the most valuable and unique advice any player would pay to hear.
Same here. The Peach had his flaws like everyone else but the more truths that I discover about him, the more likable and decent of a person he is in my book.
you do realize batting averages were a lot higher in the dead ball era right? obviously .367 is absurd but you say it like it was harder to hit for a high avg back then.
Yeah sure... American League Batting Leaders #1 through #5 1907: Cobb .350, Crawford .323, Stone .320, Leach .303, Flick .302. 1908 Cobb .324, Delahanty .317, Crawford .311, Gessler .308, Hemphill .297 Results: The examples show it as obviously more difficult to hit in the deadball era.
He once told an umpire during an argument to see him under the stands after the game. The Tigers pulled Cobb off him when he was choking the ump. They don't have real ball games like that anymore. Its all corporate, fortune 500 stuff.
Kirk Gibson once scored from first base on a single during the '88 season (can't remember who hit the single but I think it's uploaded here). He also scored from second base on a wild pitch.
Cobb was not by any means the monster he has been made out to be by writers and media. Was he racist? By today's standards, yes, but so was everyone then - especially if they were from the South. In fact, the term "racism" didn't even exist then. Doesn't make it right, but it is important to exercise a little historical relativism when judging past eras and people's behaviour therein.
By the 1950s, Cobb was actively endorsing the integration of Major League Baseball. Whatever his views might have been when he was younger, he grew over time -- which is really all you can ask of someone. We're all products of our time, after all.
Down through time there have always been those who take cheap shots against those who are superior, Ty Cobb was a ferocious competitor, and NOT politically correct, but probably the best player ever!
He couldn’t pitch at all, like Ruth. Ruth was the greatest ever and look at all the pennants and World Series he won. For Cobb, it was all about him and he didn’t even enjoy the game; he thought of it as work, as a job! He always had to be first in everything.
@@elfuego233 Trust me, me being a Tigers fan doesn't change the facts. I don't seem to remember reading anywhere that Babe Ruth stole 900 bases, do you? What about just under 4,200 hits? No disrespect to Bambino whatsoever because Ruth was an all time great, and both are on the Mount Rushmore of baseball but he was also a benefactor of the "live ball" (where Cobb was already 34 when that era started) and still didn't have the average or hit count that Ty Cobb had. All-around best player was Ty Cobb, no question. There is a reason why Cobb was the first inductee into the Baseball Hall of Fame going up against Ruth and Honus Wagner. We know Cooperstown, NY doesn't have a Detroit bias.
@@perfectsense3240 agreed but did ty Cobb lead all time in slugging and ops what about power numbers which does not being down ty he is the vest at that craft
I'd love to see those old 'deadball era' games where getting on base and driving in runners was more important than any home run. I could imagine the mental games were top notch during this era when games were usually close as Cobb stated. Wouldn't it be something to see what these legendary hitters could do against modern pitchers?
I wonder what year this interview was? My guess would be 1930 because Cobb was talking about a repeat of the previous year's pennant winners, the Cubs and Athletics. Also, this was done not long after he retired, which was in 1928 (from the Major Leagues, and maybe 1929 from Pro baseball). Great interview, especially about the hard work of baseball on a day to day basis, and even in the offseason. One of the all-time greats.
Cap Anson was a much worse racist. To the point where he was integral in creating the Color Line which kept Blacks completely out of the Major Leagues until 1947. It also was no accident that the Color Line wasn't broken until 1947, three years after Judge Landis died in 1944.
Cobb is my favorite ballplayer, hands-down. He was deadly accurate with his placement of a hit-- a shift would never have worked on him. He manufactured runs in situations that no one else would have recognized. He was a competitor through and through, which many of today's pampered millionaire players have little concept of. THAT SAID, he was in fact a dislikeable character. Though plenty of Stump's "My Life In Baseball" biography was exaggerated or even outright fabricated, he was vehemently disliked by players on both opposing and his own teams. Speculation about jealousy aside, his teammates didn't even like traveling with him, let alone rooming with him. The Claude Lueker incident at Hilltop Park in New York was beyond reprehensible. Ironically, like Rose, he also was busted for betting on baseball and received a ban (lifted a year later). Following the ban, Detroit would not take him back, and he ended his career as a non-starter on Connie Mack's A's. When he died, only 3 people connected with Major League Baseball attended his funeral. How very, very flawed our heroes can be...
EVERYTIME HE GOT HIS AVG.UP TO 450 A SPORTS WRITER WOULD BRING UP PAST ABOUT HIS MOTHER KILLING HIS FATHER THEY WERE YANKEE SOB'S NO RESPECT,THE SOUTHERN WRITER'S NEVER PULLED SUCH A LOW DOWN STUNT!!
As a life-long Tiger fan, Ty Cobb [and of course Al Kaline ], have always been my "main men". I cannot begin to tell you how unbelievably interesting this is. Thank you for the upload
urdivine I saw Willie Horton hit the longest ball in history in Kansas City one day. Even Kurt Gowdy was there and he said the same thing. The ball went over the center field fence over what they called lamb chop hill and bounced off the score board 700ft away and up. I'm very surprised nobody has picked that up. Oh Willie was with Detroit.
urdivine I saw them as a kid every summer. Roy Mantle, Mickeys brother worked for my dad, in a pipeline company and he said he could have gotten all the autographs of all those hall of famers but didn't think about it back then in the fifties and sixties. My dads company had season tickets. I got a foul ball from Brooks Robinson. Great times. Willie said he had never gotten a solid hit. Ever.
Lucky to have seen Pedro Martinez pitch in his prime. Would have loved to see Sandy Koufax & Walter Johnson on the mound. Cobb probably would be the most exciting player ever to watch.
His vocal delivery (scripted as it is) is reminiscent of Ross Perot. He sounds intelligent, not the backwards country hick he was reputed to be. He was conflicted but still fascinating.
+NYVoice he was very bright, and very successful financially. one of the early investors in coca cola co. he was just an SOB personally. but in top 3-5 players of all time
Cobb comes across as a pretty mild mannered, respectful fellow in this interview. Maybe he was just reading lines written for him, admittedly, it sort of sounds like it. The movie depicted him as complicated and there seem to be enough accounts of him showing a not-so-nice guy. Seems unlikely they all had agendas, but maybe. Leaves me wanting to know more about him.
As a person with an overactive imagination, I often have imagined myself stealing home plate (or attempting to) in an 'unwise' circumstance - in order gain a reputation for being unpredictable. Cobb actually did! Mays and Cobb may be the greatest geniuses in baseball history. Any other candidates?
Was Cobb the greatest? I don't know, but he certainly must have been the most exciting, with all due respect to the great Mays. And he was highly intelligent, as this recording shows.
Mr. Hornsby, you were probably the greatest pure hitter of all time. You were handicapped. You were right-handed. Look at most of the other greatest hitters ever: Ruth, lefty; Cobb, lefty; Williams, lefty; Musial, lefty; Gehrig, lefty; Mantle, switch. The lefty has a huge batting advantage.
I always thought that Cobb had an interesting grip on the bat, as though he wanted the option each pitch to hit or bunt. You can see if he chose to make a hit, his left hand would slide down at the last moment.
I believe that's Graham McNamee, the announcer...not Grantland Rice. I believe Cobb misspoke when he referred to him initially as 'Grantland'. He later calls him Graham.
The Athletics and Cubs met in the 1929 World Series and none since, so this must have been recorded in 1930. Ty, who was born 12/18/86, would have been age 43 and retired for two years.
Yes. He wanted to retire after he left the Tigers after the 1926 season. He wasn't ready to quit playing but was weary of managing. He was also weary of having to work for Frank Navin. Then Connie Mack came calling and Ty respected him too much to say no. He loved playing for Connie Mack and thoroughly enjoyed the two years he played in Philadelphia.
you can sense the ease or relieve in his voice when hes not on the "battlefield". I would suppose any man would be a grouch if someone was slowing his workflow down in anyway. they just don't make them like this any more.
One of the five greatest Baseball players in history. Only better hitter was Shoeless Joe Jackson. No one ever close who played with his high standards.
“If you want good legs. You have to put them to work. I never gave mine any holidays.”- Ty Cobb.
That's a very eastern style of thought. In music western vocalists coddle there voice. Indian musicians believe you have to "break" your voice regularly to strengthen it and never stop pushing it to improve it. I believe martial arts in Asia have the same philosophy of keeping building the muscle up non stop until it falls off to build maximum strength. Resting to maintain strength has long been a western philosophy. I believe japanese baseball players like sataharo oh the famous japanese homerun hitter had the same philosophy and Ichiro. Ichiro is one of the very few modern players comparable to Ty in my opinion. Similar style of play
@Angry Grizzly Very funny
I actually think Ichiro is a good comparison. Not saying he's Cobb's equal, but Ichiro certainly was alegend.
Ty Cobb never skipped leg day
GOD please give me a time machine so I can see this guys play
Coming right up, Lol!
Personally, I'd love to see 1950s nyc with the dodgers, yankees and giants
I would use my time machine to cheer up the Bronte sisters.
Jesus is going to give us the resserrection (John 5:28) so that you can meet Mr. Cobb in the near future, and we can all live together in the New Earth (2Peter 3:13) and meet all of the deceased people from history, going clear back to Seth and Cain & Abel, Adams 3 sons.
@@gargould7186 yes sire Amen and God bless
He's not arrogant and gave other players their due. lol
Due*
Fezzik 76 There you go!’ lol 😝
This is actually the first time i ever heard ty cobb's voice and I'm really suprised at how little of a southern accent he was, considering he was born in 19th century rural georgia.
His father was a college professor and he had a lasting influence on him. That's reflected in how he speaks.
@@JustWinBabee he also spend decades living in michigan, so i am sure he had a thicker southern accent when he was younger, he just lost it either on purpose or by accident.
Never heard him drop an R like them old Georgia boys tend to do like Jimmy Cawta. Lol
He clearly had a southern register, but as others have noted he lived up north for half his life at this point and that probably had a influence on his accent.
He kind of sounds like Lyndon Johnson with a slightly higher pitch.
Say what you will about Ty Cobb, but there's not one "uh, you know," or "it is what it is" uttered in this entire interview.
+Sabbra Cadabbra Yeah, hahahaha!
+Steven Yourke Yes, I'm very aware of Cobb's background. I am also aware of the inner turmoil he must have felt knowing that either his mother or his mother's lover murdered his father. He had inner demons, and was by today's standards a bigot, but he was a very intelligent man and moderated in his views as he aged.
+michael Sowell At the end of the day, it sounds like he's reading a script. It is what it is though.
+MICHAEL SOWELL It sounds to me as if he's reading his answers in the interview. As if he had been given the questions in advance and was reading his prepared answers.
Jeff Vaughn You may be correct.
I remember this interview!
LOL!
Lol
Surprisingly intelligent and articulate.
Better command of the English language than many of today’s college athletes and pros.
And very racist too
@@jasondoe7655 which had no bearing on his athletic abilities as a baseball player.
And I stand by my comment regarding speaking proper English.
@@jasondoe7655 not factual. Possible, but no supporting evidence whatsoever.
@@jasondoe7655 Race baiting zero. Now go put your BLM sign up and shut up clown. 🤡
@@jasondoe7655 Unlike other southern players, he never disparaged black players, and he fully supported integrating the game. While the late, great Buck O'Neill said that he had prejudices, he treated everyone fairly, and was no more racist than anyone who grew up in a society where beliefs in white supremacy were nearly universal.
He said Babe Ruth was the greatest batter ever.
Lol reading these comments are funny, here we are judging a man we never knew or where he came from, only focusing on the wrong he MIGHT have done but I'm interested in this... what is it that OUR generation is doing now, that future generations will only look down on us for? What is normal and acceptable now to us but in 30 years or even a short 10 years will cause us to be ostracized and outcast? Any wrong Cobb might have done I'm not excusing but who are WE to speak so cruelly of him, especially now that he's dead?
You are a very wise man.
He was not a bad guy at all. His reputation as a racist and mean person are lies. His ancestors were abolitionists. He left a perpetual funding for black college scholarships, built an integrated hospital during Jim Crow times, staffed by black and white doctors and open to all patients regardless of race. He advocated for the integration of baseball long before 1947. Roy Campanella was his favorite player in the 50’s. All the untrue myths of his racism and vile character were totally fabricated by Al Stump in a book written as an autobiography that Cobb detested and denounced (Cobb funded the book). Unfortunately, Cobb died shortly after reading the book and his false legacy was sealed. Charles Leerhsen corrected the wrong with the flawlessly researched biography “Ty Cobb the Terrible Beauty”.
What an articulate man. I heard he was a good investor, as well. Buying stocks in small companies like Coca Cola, etc.
@MUFC soooo wht in the world does soccer have to do w/ ty cobb's investing in small american company's.........????????? how much did players like ty here make a week or a month or a yr., ..... how he scrap up the extra cash to invest in american small company's like coke & etc.,............ WE ALL KNOW HE DIED IN '61....... & WE ALL KNOW HE WAS THE 1 ST to be in the baseball hall of fame too.... what all else was he into in all honesty................
@MUFC 2070? I'm 43 now in 2021 so.that means ill more than likely be dead and gone by then. And I have to say ,thank the good lord, if what you predict comes to fruition. I got nothing against soccer. Its fun to watch during the world cup every 4 years. I get into it then and am glad that it only happens every 4 years the other 3yrs and 300 or so odd days. Baseball is America's sport buttmunch so.watch your mouth when talking about it. In the meantime go kick the Hackysack around with some women
Easy to sound articulate when reading a script.
@@douglasbath976 Cobb was always well spoken . He wasn't some backwoods hick like Joe Jackson. His father was a teacher who stressed education
@@douglasbath976 Well read.
Anyone with a dislike doesn't know baseball at all. On the field it's Ruth, Cobb
or Cobb, Ruth. Either way
@JD M Cobb and Ruth have never been, nor will they ever be surpassed.
@JD M The numbers do not lie. They were the most dominant baseball players ever, and two of the most dominant athletes of all time. Point proven.
@JD M They were not inferior, but rather superior. Bringing in people from other countries does not make it better, but worse. Quantity is not quality. the passing of time does not make one throw better than before. People do no mutate. Drugs do no make one better. Nor does smaller parks, and juiced up balls. You argument is lame. In 100 years They will still be considered the best. These folks today will not even be mentioned.
Shoeless 🙆🏻♂️
One of the 3 greatest ever. No steroids. Just talent and desire.
burning red hot desire. he played to play
Funzo he was a kinda of a dick but he was a beast
@rudy melgar it wasn't a popularity contest it was baseball and Cobb was the best to ever do it. Ty Cobb was 100% baseball
rudy melgar if you did your research Cobb was NOT a racist. Nice try though.
He HAD to succeed in baseball. There was no such thing as going home a failure. His love of the game became an obsession.
There will never be another Ty Cobb.
Thankfully
@Angry Grizzly I’m sure he did, but I certainly didn’t. He may have been a good baseball player, but he beat women, beat up a disabled man in the crowd once and was a horrible racist so I’m glad there will never be another one of him.
@@fezzik7619 Throw away that Al Stump book & read the real account of his life.
@@fezzik7619I’m glad you like to read fiction books.
The Georgia Peach.
This interview was absolutely wonderful! I mean, that was "the" Ty Cobb speaking. Wow!
The man waited TWO YEARS to pull off a baserunning strategy on a pitcher. Unbelievable.
-OJJ--I would read about Cobb when I was 16 or 17, and always admired him. I read that one time that he was on second, he noticed that when the 3rd baseman got the ball from the catcher, the 3rd baseman would walk halfway to the mound, and toss up a lob, then walk back. Cobb waited for the guy to do it again, was strolling off 2nd, pretending to be just standing there, and when the ball was lobbed to the pitcher, Cobb was off like a shot, went into third standing up.
The trouble for the 3rd baseman was that, when Cobb came down the path, the guy had to try and get back to third, wait for the throw from the pitcher, and still worry about Cobb coming in like a freight train on the loose. The 3rd baseman never lobbed the ball that way again.
When I was about 34 or so, and playing semi-pro, I was on 2nd one night, and saw the 3rd baseman do the same thing that I had read about when I was 16.
He walked halfway to the mound, and lobbed it to the pitcher. I instantly recalled what I had read about Cobb when I was 16, and took my lead off 2nd. My gosh, the 3rd baseman did the same exact thing again, and I went into 3rd standing up. The 3rd baseman's dad was in the 3rd base dugout and also the manager. he really chewed his kid out, and I was laughing. It took me about 18 years to pull the trick, but then, how often does that situation come up, and you are on 2nd? I would guess about once every 18 years.
Best players--1--Cobb--2--Musial--3--Pujols. Everyone else get in line.
Why would the catcher be throwing the ball to the 3rd baseman instead of back to the pitcher with a runner on base ?
Many people don't know this but Cobb used to send many ex ballplayers money who were down on their luck . A number of retired payers did not invest and fell on hard times after their playing days were over . Cobb invested his money and did so wisely. He helped those in need. In fact as I recall he helped pay for the medical bills for some of those players who could not afford them .
. Another great story about Cobb was that there as a young player who tied out for the Tigers and was cut. In a show of compassion Cobb gave the man his jersey to help sooth the young man's disappointment
@Craig Colby Actually an interesting story about those two well after their baseball days.
At the time of his death, he was also a MAJOR stockholder in that little known soft drink called....Coca Cola.
He also supported a widow of a former player. He never asked for publicity from this.
drvn8 Shoeless Joe owned a liquor store. Ty Cobb visited the store. At first neither of them acted like they recognized each other. Before he left, Ty asked Joe if he knew him (Ty). Joe said he did, but he wasn't sure that Ty wanted to know him because a lot of people didn't following the scandal.
He helped Alex Bregman because his bitch ass got screwed.
Obviously scripted but probably Cobb 's own words. He would have destroyed today
Cobb Was Incredible.
Rogers Hornsby To Say The Least.
Agreed.
MUFC nice
@MUFC Soccer blows, numbnuts. Now get outta here!
@MUFC You underestimate the stubbornness of us Americans. We rejected the metric system.
Interesting stuff hearing him talk about conditioning, reading eyes, and trying certain plays in blowouts in preparation for future games. Sounds like he played really smartly.
I'm reading the biography by Charles Leehrsen, and it goes into detail about how hard he worked. He would have been great in any era.
Ty was the greatest baseball player who ever played the game and at the time he played loved by his teammates and respected by his opponents. He was not a racist. He was brought up by family that favored abolition (while living in Georgia!) before the Civil war and who taught him that skin color did not matter. Cobb was one of the few ball players who spoke out in favor of full integration long before the great Jackie Robinson was allowed to play in the major leagues. All of the myths about Cobb were created out of whole cloth by hack sportswriter Al Stump and parroted by others, including Charles Alexander and Ken Burns, who never did the research and relied on Stump's fabricated history. To learn about the real Ty Cobb, I suggest the book "Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty," written by respected author and sportswriter Charles Leerhsen. Before writing his book, Leershen was convinced he would be writing a book about a homicidal racist ball player in keeping with conventional wisdom perpetrated by Stump's fabricated biography. While researching the book, he discovered the real Cobb, a credit to the game and a decent man.
True, but Cobb was respected by opponents only in that he was a superior player. He wasn’t exactly well-liked or befriended by other players because he was competitive to a fault and at times a dirty player.
@@Garrett1240 I would submit that there are Michael Jordan haters, too.
Guys that attain that level of excellence (Cobb, Jordan, Tiger...) seem to have so much drive, competitiveness and intense focus that they probably aren't the most likeable during their heyday. Glad to see the Stump's account getting more scrutiny and that some of the more disparaging characterizations are now getting debunked.
If I were a coach, of any sport not just baseball, I’d have my players listen to this and take notes. Cobb stresses how important it is to cover all the little angles of the game. He dispenses some of the most valuable and unique advice any player would pay to hear.
TY COBB-THE GREATEST CENTERFIELDER THE GAME HAS EVER KNOWN!
Big Bad Wolf so true sir!
Big Bad Wolf I Agree.
Big Bad Wolf Yes.
biggest racist
He played right field. Jim Edmonds was the best.
Always admired his records and how he played the game. After learning of the hatchet job Stump made on him, I love Cobb even more.
Truth will out.
Same here. The Peach had his flaws like everyone else but the more truths that I discover about him, the more likable and decent of a person he is in my book.
I ride my bike into downtown Detroit frequently and pass Ty's old house in Boston Edison on Atkinson every time.
I thought Ted Williams was the ultimate science based player.... until I heard this.
Lou Gehrig spoke favorably of Ty as well.
Even better, Cobb was a Detroit Tiger
Cobb could just flat out hit!
Wore leg weights in spring training
.367 lifetime batting average in the deadball era.. no one else has come close, even the great willie mays and no steroids needed.
you do realize batting averages were a lot higher in the dead ball era right? obviously .367 is absurd but you say it like it was harder to hit for a high avg back then.
G Manning they actually proved it was .366, but yeah, your point is valid.
He played for 9 years in the live ball era!
Yeah sure... American League Batting Leaders #1 through #5 1907: Cobb .350, Crawford .323, Stone .320, Leach .303, Flick .302. 1908 Cobb .324, Delahanty .317, Crawford .311, Gessler .308, Hemphill .297 Results: The examples show it as obviously more difficult to hit in the deadball era.
@@jeffgreen7499 it wasn't necessarily harder the parks where bigger
THIS WAS AWESOME
Never thought id hear his voice
He also made a cameo appearance in the original Angels in the Outfield, starring Paul Douglas and Janet Leigh (1951).
@@JustWinBabee Woah, Really... How Can I Find This Movie
@@michaelbright1218 - Not sure. Years ago people were selling the VHS tape on eBay, but I haven't seen it for sale anywhere recently.
@@michaelbright1218 - Cobb's voice can also be heard in the Detroit Tigers Movie, made in 1985 and available in VHS.
I’ve got a secret, he was on that show 1955.
The Georgia Peach is one of my favorite baseball players of all-time.
You can also find Cobb on a "What's My Line" episode on RUclips.
That was a great show.
This radio interview is from 1930; I first heard this on a public radio show over 12 years ago.
Cobb was smart.Very.
He once told an umpire during an argument to see him under the stands after the game. The Tigers pulled Cobb off him when he was choking the ump. They don't have real ball games like that anymore. Its all corporate, fortune 500 stuff.
threatening an ump is considered part of a "real ball game"? something tells me you dont even watch baseball
Cobb-Only.Ruth was a better player.
Yes.
3:03
"I'd try some wild play, like going from first to home on a single"
LOL!!!!!!!
Lmao
Kirk Gibson once scored from first base on a single during the '88 season (can't remember who hit the single but I think it's uploaded here). He also scored from second base on a wild pitch.
T-Bo Jacoby Ellsbury did it in 2014 I believe.
He has the most stolen bases from third to home I know that. By a mile, like 70
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This is amazing! I love the part where he says quitting baseball gave him his own life back. Every comment here is a gem.
I put him out in center on my starting all time lineup.
Cobb was not by any means the monster he has been made out to be by writers and media. Was he racist? By today's standards, yes, but so was everyone then - especially if they were from the South. In fact, the term "racism" didn't even exist then. Doesn't make it right, but it is important to exercise a little historical relativism when judging past eras and people's behaviour therein.
He was not a racist.
By the 1950s, Cobb was actively endorsing the integration of Major League Baseball. Whatever his views might have been when he was younger, he grew over time -- which is really all you can ask of someone. We're all products of our time, after all.
"If you want good legs, you have to put them to work" ... so true
Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth; best ever.
The Georgia Peach Himself.
😎
Angry Grizzly Yes.
Cool hearing him talking about Babe being the greatest while Babe was still an active player
Helluvva player.
Down through time there have always been those who take cheap shots against those who are superior, Ty Cobb was a ferocious competitor, and NOT politically correct, but probably the best player ever!
This interview is gold!!
Ty Cobb was the best there EVER was!
Perfect Sense George Herman Ruth was period
He couldn’t pitch at all, like Ruth. Ruth was the greatest ever and look at all the pennants and World Series he won. For Cobb, it was all about him and he didn’t even enjoy the game; he thought of it as work, as a job! He always had to be first in everything.
This coment will be summed up ur biased because ur a tigers fan babe was the best and ty Cobb was sort of like wilt chamberlain but not really
@@elfuego233 Trust me, me being a Tigers fan doesn't change the facts. I don't seem to remember reading anywhere that Babe Ruth stole 900 bases, do you? What about just under 4,200 hits? No disrespect to Bambino whatsoever because Ruth was an all time great, and both are on the Mount Rushmore of baseball but he was also a benefactor of the "live ball" (where Cobb was already 34 when that era started) and still didn't have the average or hit count that Ty Cobb had. All-around best player was Ty Cobb, no question. There is a reason why Cobb was the first inductee into the Baseball Hall of Fame going up against Ruth and Honus Wagner. We know Cooperstown, NY doesn't have a Detroit bias.
@@perfectsense3240 agreed but did ty Cobb lead all time in slugging and ops what about power numbers which does not being down ty he is the vest at that craft
Hands down the greatest hitter that ever played the game.
Sure, right after the Babe.
He played in a segregated League and the a competition was better when they integrated
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@@roccomarchegiano5990 have to say Ruth is best hitter. how can you compete with a career slugging of .690? but i call Cobb the best overall player
Grantland rice. Great sports writer. Wrote the four horseman lead.
Not too many to the level of this baseball genius!
With Grantland Rice. Recorded March 19, 1930.
I'd love to see those old 'deadball era' games where getting on base and driving in runners was more important than any home run. I could imagine the mental games were top notch during this era when games were usually close as Cobb stated. Wouldn't it be something to see what these legendary hitters could do against modern pitchers?
I wonder what year this interview was? My guess would be 1930 because Cobb was talking about a repeat of the previous year's pennant winners, the Cubs and Athletics. Also, this was done not long after he retired, which was in 1928 (from the Major Leagues, and maybe 1929 from Pro baseball). Great interview, especially about the hard work of baseball on a day to day basis, and even in the offseason. One of the all-time greats.
Not only an incredible ballplayer but a very intelligent man.
Every comment about Cobb is " oh he's racist" people are fascinated by racism I think. Who cares. He was an amazing player. It's all that counts
Cap Anson was a much worse racist. To the point where he was integral in creating the Color Line which kept Blacks completely out of the Major Leagues until 1947. It also was no accident that the Color Line wasn't broken until 1947, three years after Judge Landis died in 1944.
Just absolutely amazing.
The georgia peach,well alright!
You can say what you want to about Cobb but he still and always will have the highest lifetime Batting Average of any major league.. .367
charles mays -I Got Close,But Missed it.
@3:00 Ty talks about running on them with 5-6 runs lead. todays players would cry their eyes out if ty was around 😂
⚾️ He was close! It was the
Athletics vs Cardinals in the 1930 W.S
Athletics won in 6
This is American poetry. This is amazing
Damn - this is Grantland Rice! Clicked on it to hear Cobb, but to me, Rice is - if anything - more legendary.
Well,You Can't Beat The Babe.
Cobb is my favorite ballplayer, hands-down. He was deadly accurate with his placement of a hit-- a shift would never have worked on him. He manufactured runs in situations that no one else would have recognized. He was a competitor through and through, which many of today's pampered millionaire players have little concept of. THAT SAID, he was in fact a dislikeable character. Though plenty of Stump's "My Life In Baseball" biography was exaggerated or even outright fabricated, he was vehemently disliked by players on both opposing and his own teams. Speculation about jealousy aside, his teammates didn't even like traveling with him, let alone rooming with him. The Claude Lueker incident at Hilltop Park in New York was beyond reprehensible. Ironically, like Rose, he also was busted for betting on baseball and received a ban (lifted a year later). Following the ban, Detroit would not take him back, and he ended his career as a non-starter on Connie Mack's A's. When he died, only 3 people connected with Major League Baseball attended his funeral. How very, very flawed our heroes can be...
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GOAT
"Ty, you have asked me not to make this too poysenal."
One of the lefty,s Cobb had trouble with was from Nash,TN.Cobb hated facing left hand pitchers.Lucas was his name!
EVERYTIME HE GOT HIS AVG.UP TO 450 A SPORTS WRITER WOULD BRING UP PAST ABOUT HIS MOTHER KILLING HIS FATHER THEY WERE YANKEE SOB'S NO RESPECT,THE SOUTHERN WRITER'S NEVER PULLED SUCH A LOW DOWN STUNT!!
Ty Cobb and my great grandfather grew up together in Royston, GA. There is a Ty Cobb museum in Royston, GA if any of you ever want to stop by.
As a life-long Tiger fan, Ty Cobb [and of course Al Kaline ], have always been my "main men". I cannot begin to tell you how unbelievably interesting this is. Thank you for the upload
urdivine I saw Willie Horton hit the longest ball in history in Kansas City one day. Even Kurt Gowdy was there and he said the same thing. The ball went over the center field fence over what they called lamb chop hill and bounced off the score board 700ft away and up. I'm very surprised nobody has picked that up. Oh Willie was with Detroit.
Holy Cowhide !! It seems to me, that would be the longest in ANY ballpark. Good for you that you got to see it. You're a KC fan?
urdivine I saw them as a kid every summer. Roy Mantle, Mickeys brother worked for my dad, in a pipeline company and he said he could have gotten all the autographs of all those hall of famers but didn't think about it back then in the fifties and sixties. My dads company had season tickets. I got a foul ball from Brooks Robinson. Great times. Willie said he had never gotten a solid hit. Ever.
Miggy is a great tiger to
Lucky to have seen Pedro Martinez pitch in his prime. Would have loved to see Sandy Koufax & Walter Johnson on the mound. Cobb probably would be the most exciting player ever to watch.
His vocal delivery (scripted as it is) is reminiscent of Ross Perot. He sounds intelligent, not the backwards country hick he was reputed to be. He was conflicted but still fascinating.
+NYVoice he was very bright, and very successful financially. one of the early investors in coca cola co. he was just an SOB personally. but in top 3-5 players of all time
Good comparison... I guess the "giant sucking sounds" were from Lou Brock, Pete Rose, and Rickey Henderson.
This sounds NOTHING like the Tommy Lee Jones maniac from the movie
Ty Cobb !
This is Awesome!
Not 19-0-7 But 19 Hundred And 7...OldSchool
Some of the players today need a history lesson. Would they know Ty Cobb? Walter Johnson?
"Well, you can't beat the Babe". RESPECT
It's interesting to hear how so much the baseball nomenclature remains the same over a century later.
this is sick. what makes it better is hes not wasted like that 1951 tv interview
Cobb comes across as a pretty mild mannered, respectful fellow in this interview. Maybe he was just reading lines written for him, admittedly, it sort of sounds like it. The movie depicted him as complicated and there seem to be enough accounts of him showing a not-so-nice guy. Seems unlikely they all had agendas, but maybe. Leaves me wanting to know more about him.
As a person with an overactive imagination, I often have imagined myself stealing home plate (or attempting to) in an 'unwise' circumstance - in order gain a reputation for being unpredictable. Cobb actually did!
Mays and Cobb may be the greatest geniuses in baseball history. Any other candidates?
Ty Cobb, Greatest Baseball Player, ever.
Cobb interview with Grantland Rice and Graham McNamee, at some point between the end of the 1929 World Series and the beginning of the 1930 season.
What a player he was!
LOVE TY COBB!!!!
Was Cobb the greatest? I don't know, but he certainly must have been the most exciting, with all due respect to the great Mays. And he was highly intelligent, as this recording shows.
Mike Whitney I Wasn't So Bad Myself.
Mr. Hornsby, you were probably the greatest pure hitter of all time. You were handicapped. You were right-handed. Look at most of the other greatest hitters ever: Ruth, lefty; Cobb, lefty; Williams, lefty; Musial, lefty; Gehrig, lefty; Mantle, switch. The lefty has a huge batting advantage.
Mike Whitney- So True.Appreciate The Compliment,Though.
Thanks for posting this. Amazing to hear the voices of these two legenday sports figures.
I always thought that Cobb had an interesting grip on the bat, as though he wanted the option each pitch to hit or bunt. You can see if he chose to make a hit, his left hand would slide down at the last moment.
I’m a Tiger fan so...yes Cobb is my favorite player.
That's Ty Cobb speaking? I thought he'd have more of a Georgia accent.
Maphiro611 he sounds like muhammad ali haha
The Self Proclaimed Great One really WAS !!!!
The pride of the Far-Right Americans...back then and today.
So what?
I believe that's Graham McNamee, the announcer...not Grantland Rice. I believe Cobb misspoke when he referred to him initially as 'Grantland'. He later calls him Graham.
The Athletics and Cubs met in the 1929 World Series and none since, so this must have been recorded in 1930. Ty, who was born 12/18/86, would have been age 43 and retired for two years.
Yes. He wanted to retire after he left the Tigers after the 1926 season. He wasn't ready to quit playing but was weary of managing. He was also weary of having to work for Frank Navin. Then Connie Mack came calling and Ty respected him too much to say no. He loved playing for Connie Mack and thoroughly enjoyed the two years he played in Philadelphia.
you can sense the ease or relieve in his voice when hes not on the "battlefield". I would suppose any man would be a grouch if someone was slowing his workflow down in anyway. they just don't make them like this any more.
One of the five greatest
Baseball players in history. Only better hitter was Shoeless Joe Jackson. No one ever close who played with his high standards.