Intel Reacts to New M3 MacBook Air
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Intel just got their hands on the new Apple M3 MacBook Air, and they didn’t even need to wear their oven mitts.
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Base model with non-upgradable 8GB of RAM and 256GB of SSD is criminal
Tim cook: “thats just incredible” 😀
Nobody buys that. But they can say: starting at... $lower_price. It's marketing.
Why? Are you even tried a MacBook air? What do you need more memory for? Surfing the web? Watching youtube?
Apple makes a distinction between Students, low end users who don’t need overloaded brick laptops with tons of fans to cool laptop (with low battery life) and people who needs powerful laptop (MacBook Pro). Memory on M chips are not same as memory on Intel chip architecture.
Apple laptops are smoking any laptop battery life / power consumption. Not to mention how light Macbook air are.
So compare what is comparable.
@@franckleveneur676 Having more RAM and SSD doesn't need extra 'fans to cool laptop' 😂
@@franckleveneur676surfing web ? Watching RUclips ? For student ? Spend 400$ instead of 1100 !
Hmmm not the same memory ? And ?
You can build a machine with onboard (onchip) memory and add an extra I/O to increase Ram...exemple : Amiga 500 in 1987 (chipram onboard and fastram on extension).
CPU need amount of Ram
GPU need bandwidth
M3 Pro's GPU is weak, extra bandwidth over 8GB is useless.
So you put 8GB onboard.
And you allow Sodimm extensions for your CPU.
About onboard storage, there's even not a single technical reason.
Apple's engineers aren't idiots...but clients could be !
These choices are made :
- to sell overpriced storage and ram option...256 extra GB when you should have faster 4TB for the same price ! In my country, extra 256GB at 3000MB/s costs 230€, for 119€ I bought 2TB at 7200Mo/s!
- to sell you a new device when your new softwares requier more ram...
Apple still has no excuse for putting 8 gb of ram in a laptop no matter what fake justification they make up.
My dell work laptop only came with 8gb of ram
So I got IT to add a second 8gb stick
My Apple MacIntosh II... bleeding edge and 1989 $5,000... only had 1 megabyte. It wouldn't even boot. I had to buy another 1 megabyte for $489 to get the darn thing to turn on. It was the LAST Apple anything I ever bought.
My 669 dollar laptop has 16GB
🤣
@@esdigital5259 my hp laptop came with 4 gb of ram I had to add a 8 gb ram stick so windows 11 would stop swapping like crazy
8gb soldered Ram and 256gb soldered SSD in 2024 The all new 1100 dollar disposable macbook !
💯
EU should give them a big fat fine for even making a machine like that for 1100 dollars because its littelary made to die if you use it
who make you buy it? I bought with 24gb
@@reahs4815 Problem is Gr3ta told them Lithium was good for the planet 😂
These are laptops for lowest common denominators
Apple getting fined $2B: "Oh no, 2 minutes of our income! Anyways..."
lol
apple gets 1m per 65 seconds
@@定义 Sure, that makes it a bit more than 2 days then.
Still not much of a problem for them
@@mathis8210 yea
@@mathis8210 a loss is a loss... for "them"
I'll never get tired of hearing that 'Subscribe Today' voice.
8GB of ram in 2024, truly Apple are the great univators of our time!
My €600 phone with 12gb ram laughs at it
@@captainheat2314 same my oneplus 12 with 12/256 is better than my iMac 8/256 lol
8gb is fine for me actually and I 100% won’t be needing more in future, my needs are pretty much done at 4 gb so I even have extra headroom
@@karanjoshi2662 good for you man
The hardware and software are optimized well in mac, so most daily users' software needs can be met with just 8GB of RAM. However, professionals and enthusiasts like you might require more RAM.
Additionally, it's worth noting that the OnePlus or €600 phones with 12GB of RAM can't render 4K video as quickly as a Mac with 8GB of RAM. €600 phone comes with 12GB ram because OS by itself can’t run smoothly with 8GB ram (it lags).
1:55 "And sometimes fullsize Port Ports" Proud to be watching on a Framework 13.
3:23 "they’ve also got intel inside" was genius 😭
Turn me off and on again 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂, I'm crying.
Bahaha
Glass, car seat with the horn sound creased me up😂😂
1:20 (with the laptop lid closed) LMAO
Yeah those tech reviewers should be banned.
the "full sized port, ports" got me hahaha
the intel inside joke was hilarious lol
"turn me off and on again!" killed me dead.
8GB of RAM I had that almost 20 years ago in a laptop. It is almost as ridiculous as the notch design flaw they sell as "real estate".
2:26 the sound!!!!!!!))))))))))
2:27 that squeak just broke me up! 😂
Still give customer a poor 8GB ram on extremely expensive product.
And that extremely expensive product will double in price if you wish to get a bit more memory or storage.
Please give some comparison model. MacBook Air perform better than PC laptops. Their battery life are much better because Apple CPU does not consume as much energy as PC. Intel is trying to play catch up. Everywhere i look (at least here in USA), everyone is using Mac laptop.
If you want to workout and build muscle carrying PC laptop, that’s up to you. But many people just need to send email, surf the web and use few apps.
For professional work, there are professional Laptops. Educate yourself first before posting inaccurate information.
One day Apple will bring back Ethernet ports…right?
They’re going to remove all the plug in holes soon
Then you must pay for another device to wirelessly connect and then plug in from there
Whoops leaked out their next poan
Of course. As an add-on you can purchase with a humble price of $499.
@@elgestrazoer2833stop. Just stop. it's not funny. nobody laughs at these jokes. they've been used a million times
@@elgestrazoer2833 you forgot the " " on "humble" LOL
@@Zellzoi everyone still does because its sadly true that dumbasses STILL buy into their dumb shit.
1:05 had me rolling on the floor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why do you have to close the lid? Why can't you just press a function button to enable the two displays and keep on using the keyboard/trackpad? It's just stupid not to allow that.
Imagine blaming intel for their chips overheating when apple are the ones who forgot to put a real cooler in their shit. I mean, they literally had a fan and a heat sink in there that was completely separate from the cpu, and they expected that to work. The only good thing about modern apple stuff is they reminded people that arm is a good architecture.
*picking up my Apple hat* Let me explain. Apple Silicon processors are so unnovative and brilliant that they do not need the heatsink with this sticky goo placed between them. We at Apple made a breakthrough by creating a heatsinkless cooling technology. We called it Chiller. It works by transferring the heat to the nearest components and the laptop body, providing you with a much more quiet experience, and also turns the back panel into a portable heater. If the chip feels a bit warm, it uses our innovative Dynamic Power technology to decrease the currency, so it will not be that warm anymore.
Don't you dare call all these "inefficient passive cooling" and "throttling". Those names are for peasants and x86 dinosaurs. The users of our unnovative Apple products will greatly appreciate the technological advancements we made. Consider trying it out - starting at $1500 for a machine with 8GB innovative unified single-channel RAM.
ive had Intel machines that run horribly hot. Main issue is obviously Intel. No wonder Apple's laptops now have incredible battery life. Personally made the switch to AMD, day and night difference.
@@RM-el3gwdepends on generation/machine. I have and m1, a recent Intel Asus 14x, and recently I bought some amd notebook for a coworker at a similar price point. The Asus one appears to be no worse, and maybe even better that the other ones in terms of battery life, and performance is more or less equal across the board when performing typical notebook tasks. I don't have time to waste to run benchmarks with a stopwatch, so I base my opinion on actual use of the machines, so it's subjective, of course.
They didn't "forget" to put decent cooling in there. They designed the cooling systems based on what Intel promised, and then didn't deliver.
When I come home from a shitty commute after a shitty day at work, it is nice to have 'tubers like SAMTIME remind me to laugh and relax.
Likely there will be a point in the future where making RAM chips as small as 8GB won't be financially sound anymore. It might be only a decade or two and then Apple will have to increase the memory on the base model. The consumer will have the last laugh!
I think it’ll be a lot sooner than that
@@Sashazur While my comment was mostly hyperbole there are still really small chips being made that are nowhere near 8GB. Those would be used in things like IoT devices that need some processing power but not much. Including that type of memory chip, >8GB baseline might not even happen this century.
Of course Apple releases the M3 15 inch air a month after I bought the M2 version 😭
same when I bought the iMac m1
@@4fgaming925 Oof, well at least it’s not as bad as people buying intel MacBooks right before the m1 announcements
@@Zomboy4313 haha fr
"Turn me off and on again"😂
the 2B dollars song was so cool!
that "subscribe today" had me rolling haha
"Turn me off and on again" LOL
i'm surprised the last generation macs didn't have wifi 6e
I’ve been using AMD CPUs in my computers since Zen2 in 2019. In terms of power efficiency, Intel is not even close.
Which is sad because competition is good for consumers. Look at CPU stagnation in 2011-2019 for what happens without competition.
Maybe. I have computers running both. As long as you compare apples to apples, i.e. within the generation... In desktops, AMD seems to be ahead on efficiency. In notebooks... Dunno. I generally find recent gen notebooks to be more or less ok. Bought an Intel one recently, was pleasantly surprised how long it stays alive on battery. Wouldn't say it's worse than an AMD I bought shortly before it, rather, it's actually better. Of course, one would have to normalize for battery size, performance, and so on, which I frankly have no desire to do since both notebooks work reasonably well to perform basic notebook things like office/browsing/media playback. Looks pretty much like a tie to me.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul To be honest, my sample size is also quite small. However, concerning laptops, a couple of years ago I’ve replaced a laptop equipped with a Core i3-6157U (2 Skylake CPU cores, Intel Iris 550 GPU) with a newer model featuring a Ryzen 5 5600U (6 Zen3 CPU cores, Radeon Vega 7 GPU). The rest of the specifications are very similar: a 60Hz 1080p IPS display, no discrete GPU, plenty of RAM and a large SSD both purchased separately.
Interestingly, the new laptop runs cooler and lasts longer on battery despite the specs indicating a slightly lower battery capacity, 45 Watt*hours compared to 51 Watt*hours in the old one.
@@soontsthe big issue for amd laptops is that the large manufacturers want guaranteed production runs of cpus that you can only meet when you control your production. Not when you are in an 18 month long queue. Will be ve interesting how intel copes with idm 2, and their advances in my node
@@phill6859 Apparently, AMD has an interesting workaround for that issue. They order many chips from TSMC, and initially only sell them to laptop manufacturers. Eventually, after 6-12 months the consumption stabilizes, at which point AMD knows how many mobile chips they need to make. Then they reuse excessive chips in their desktop products.
They’ve been doing the trick for several generations now, with Renoir Zen 2, Cezanne Zen 3, and most recently Phoenix Zen 4 chips. For instance, mobile Ryzen 7 7840 released in May 2023 and desktop Ryzen 7 8700G released in January 2024 are equivalent chips sold to different markets with different names and packages.
1:25 that's my work setup for more than 5 years! I will never understand how people can actually clap and cheer for something that should have been standard long ago.
Framework mentioned!
You need to make an entire video using the "subscribe today" voice and with the cat in it.
1:06
Heyyy, that's the game Tunic!
This was FUCKING HILARIOUS 🤣 Thank you for making this video. The car seat joke cracked me up so much
wifi 6e? 🤣
Lol Huawei laptops had wifi 6e for years.
full SIze PORT PORTS , i Died Laughing 😂😂😂😂
I still love INTEL
Me too. I can't afford to keep warm in winter so i just run my Intel instead!
Intel still crushes the M series in benchmarks, yet the narrative from the tech press is somehow the M series are faster.
@@marty0678If only benchmarks were the same thing as performance...
@@brachiator1 yeah, power efficiency is a big thing, you don't have to have MacBooks plugged in the whole time to get best performance, although the 8gb ram is a joke.
@@4fgaming925 power efficiency and heat are much better with the M series. But benchmarks are what directly measures performance and objectively Intel is faster. Narratives like seen in this thread and the tech press mix up performance/benchmarks with power efficiency. M series wins in power efficiency, heat, and battery life, Intel wins in total performance, but people seem to conflate the various points.
I have a 2016 Dell latitude midrange model, and when plugged into the docking station, it can easily run 2-3 external displays WHILE the laptops built in screen was still on, without working a sweat. And it was half the price of this and almost 8 years old at this point. Very disappointing and unnecessary software lock for an already overpriced machine.
Sam, you're too funny man 😂
1:02 Ah, the joke that goes over many people's heads that don;t know what it is to root. Well played, Sam.
"Almost as good"
back in the intel days I would cool my labtop with icepacks just to be able to record my instruments with a microphone. Long live apple silicon!!!
How many touch points are their now on the screen......oh wait what
*There
Intel can run old programs and operating systems with no issues.M3 and snapdragon are good for modern applications.
Intel can also run real programs, like SolidWorks.
And are used in production and business environments
So modern hardware trash for modern software trash. Perfect
@@grisflyt Intel is better for engineering, I had a 2013 iMac and now I have a 2021 m1 iMac, this one still cannot run fusion 360 fast enough. Only like 2 times faster then an 8 year older iMac, I excepted it to handle everything easily. It takes around 1 minute to exit fusion 360 on the 2021 version which aint that good. Although designing and video editing softwares run good as far as I have heard.
@@4fgaming925 I was just saying that Windows is your only option if you are going to run real software. I would use Linux if I could run SolidWorks on it.
I like Photoshop and Illustrator as much as the next guy, but they are excessive 99% of the time. Aside from Smart Layers (which I love), there's nothing a free software like Inkscape doesn't have that you'll miss.
So, yes, engineering tools. It has always been that way. Apple was desktop publishing and subsequently every graphic designers would use it. Apple got the music industry because Microsoft half-asses everything. "Let somebody else fix it." In this case latency. Steinberg had to write a driver (ASIO) to make Windows work with music recording. But that was too late. Mac is the de facto standard in the record industry.
I use Windows and, like everybody else, not by choice.
Let’s all get base model, MacBook Airs
Let's not. Apple cripples these things to get you to bend over and open your wallet wider.
I got a MacBook Pro M3 from my work as a work machine and I couldn't be happier with the performance. Blows the PoS intel laptop I had previously completely out of the water.
This video is about the MacBook Air, which is more of a coffeeshop casual laptop. I'm writing this on a 4 year old MacBook Pro (Intel i9) with 64 GB memory running two 32" monitors with the screen open. What bothers me the most about the Air is the 2 ports.
Macbooks and imacs need to at least make Ram and Ssd upgradeable. If they do it, their sales will at least be double of what it is now.
I have the M3 MacBook Pro. Battery life was the only reason I bought it. Likely going to move to the AMD Framework in a year or so. The M3 is still behind in raw compute.
1:35 It nice to see my laptop in a video.
P.S. My laptop came with 16 GB of memory.
Heyyy funky time
They didn’t even update the wallpaper
Lol, it's only March but this is the video of the year!!!
its not as dongle friendly because it is the dongle
nah bro try playing those games with an arm chip
Apple: MacBook Air
Intel: ThinkPad Airflow is horrible
That Lenovo’s problem not intel’s
Didnt know intel designs lenovo airflow
@@captainheat2314 thinkpad is owned by Lenovo
😂
Wi-fi speed is not really relevant, internet speed is 100 times slower and cable is 10 times faster
When I was younger my parents got my first laptop for me, but they weren't good with computers so they got me 8 gb's of ram, and you know, it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, I could still use all the applications I needed at the same time without any problems (mostly).
Apple's most expensive M3 based PC vs. cyberpunk 2077 with full quality ray tracing anyone? 😂
It was a success with m1, so imagine m3 max nailing it. Yo game devs too afraid to release games for mac, take that rockstar, for then, windows will be obsolete..
@@Sudip_Sarkar_Charles_Edwards So, are you saying that the most expensive Mac can run cyberpunk 2077 at native 4k with quality ray tracing and all settings at high? I think a big mac would have a better chance.
@@Sudip_Sarkar_Charles_Edwards they don't do it because it would take too much time. They would have to rewrite every game to run on arm.
@@AzumiRMnot even close it is more like 1440p medium which to be honest is pretty good for a mac. But still only equivalent to a ruffly 500 dollar pc or a 1000 laptop.
1:55 framework port port lmao
1:04 hey thats my model...straight up thats the one i use
So many people are blindly hate... they forgot that this is Macbook Air (not Pro) which is targetted for people for daily non intensive usage...
I personally would upgrade to 16GB for my workflow, but let the storage on the cheapest option.. (prefer to use external drive)
Let's be real, even on desktop AMD is doing a lot better with heat / performance ratio. 14900k was a marketing release. Intel needs to step up their game.
Only 8gb of RAM and some of it now has to be used to patch up hardware vulnerabilities.
full size port ports. Made my day.
It's called "Dongle Ports" 😍😍
Pluggable cat tail 😂
I didn't understand this video
3:19 Lmao, mate
2006 called, they want their funny video ideas back
Darn, if only Apple could explain why my M1 is slow as hell... oh right! it's because it's not a M3! Hold my beer... where's my CC... 🙃
Apple have really lost their way… they’re a fashion brand now… not a tech company.
Can we do all brands and their features? I'm not just here for the frustated Apple user sarcasm.
I work as an embedded software engineer and have never seen a Mac in any of the companies that I have ever worked for. None of the apps that I use for embedded software development are available for a Mac but all are available for x86 windows and x86 Linux. This means that unless I was to become a RUclipsr and need the excellent video editing apps that are available for Macs then a Mac would be no more than a door stop for me.
I currently use PCs that are around half as fast as an M1 Mac but I make do because Apple chooses not to make their M1/M2/M3 chips available for Windows on Arm computers which would sell very well and for which all of my apps would quickly become available.
it's funny to read your primitive knowledge of computers
(while you are kinda an IT guy)
looks like the USA is a really land of idiots
did you ever heard about virtual machines ?
The base model MacBook Air is for people who want a thin client, such as corporations who do remote work connected to a server.
The base model M1 is still more performant then the i9 I had before it.
0:09 LOL
I like the idea of being able to upgrade my ram, but the reality is that by the time software upgrades require more memory, your better off buying an new machine than upgrading RAM.
These MacBooks are just scaled up phone hardware. The biggest joke is if the SSD fails the BIOS is gone, the machine is bricked. You can't even boot from USB. Got a new Macbook Pro for work, M2 Pro, 16GB of RAM AGAIN, had that much for the past 4-5 years now on my work laptop, it needs more for working with Docker and development tools. The new machine keeps dropping wifi and won't reconnect. I had to change from using USB-C to my monitor to using HDMI because the new OSX won't detect it on startup unless I replugin the cable. Say what you like about Intel hardware Apple, your own hardware is just as buggy.
comparing arm and x86 is like comparing apple and orange
it just doesnt make sense, there are so many things u cant do or do with glitches on the mac that u can on a normal pc
the comparison will start making sense when the whole software industry move towards arm, right now though, ppl still making x86 windows software, and the the apple chip cant run them without a port, unless u want a glitchy mess
it just doesnt matter how good an arm chip is on a real pc
they only good for mobile or embedded devices
The laptop now supporting 2 external monitors is akin to Borat saying now we are allowing women into buses.
Most flagship phones get 12GB of RAM, and Apple puts 8 in their laptops. I'd rather get a Chromebook.
An 8GB isn't exactly "flagship"
I don't get the praise for the Apple M chips. Their Passmark scores aren't all that spectacular, but to hear the fanbois talk about it, you'd think 50,000+ Passmarks is what they're talking about instead of a measly 18,000.
🤣🤣🤣 funny and yet so true
And there's no fan, good luck with that throttling during your Zoom meeting. Framework or 13" MBP with Touchbar seems the way to go.
Port ports! Brilliant!
8Gb, what innovation and progress LOL
Entry level MacBook Air M3... 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD for $1100. In 2024! Really unacceptable.
For $1100 I can easily find a variety of x86 based PCs with a Core Ultra i7 and 16GB + 1 TB SSD and a larger 1600p LCD.
My i9 MacBook Pro was horrible! Overheating, Fans at full speed most of the time.
So, if Apple could reach a point where its laptops were supported for gaming, more affordable, included decent amounts of RAM, and sufficient ports, what would happen?
Apple haters would lose their mind because more people would buy Macs.
@@yvan2563nah, they wouldn't, cause some would attach a very interesting price tag to a machine that capable
Can't wait for the Apple M4 CS Competition Performance Edition 2024'
Now with upgraded Check CPU light for added immersion
The base model is the same as pishing webs
I checked just now and the 15" base model comes with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD, at least in Germany...
⛔ AND WHAT ABOUT TECH SUPPORT?...MHEEE... APPLE SAYS.. FUCX THR GUARANTEE. JUST BUY A NEW ONE.. 😂😂😂😂😂
But you know, so what if we put on a couple on nanometers?... -Intel
What is this? Are you making the mistake that Intel means "PC" as in "Mac vs. PC"?
Tech is so advanced nowadays, yet all these keyboard engineers are demanding more. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade every year
8GB RAM in a MacBook Air, in 2024?! 😦 It's like they designed it for an upgrade.
So now what use is the m3 mbp? Maybe better bc fans but not $300 more good
it (pro model )still has a better screen , higher refresh rate , slightly better speakers , more ports I think , better cooling , I think you can run two monitors without closing the laptop if im not mistaken , there are some benefits to having the MacBook Pro , whether you need the extras is up to you.
@@mikldude9376 You get extra stuff but you cant use it because it will overheat
@@mikldude9376 yes thats a lot of differences, also its more expensive so you can flex it even more lol
not true. for most things the air is equal to macpro@@mikldude9376
Any java project starting on MacBook pro 3 sec, in Intel any processor 12 - 18 sec. Where is Intel performance? 😂😂😂😂
1:02 did you just called it rooter as in rooster?