GEARBOX, CLUTCHES & FLYWHEEL - AUDI A5 3.0 TDI QUATTRO PROJECT - DARKSIDE DEVELOPMENTS - PART 11
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- On first inspection of our Audi A5 we found some excessive play in the front drive flange cup. We initially suspected bearing wear but after removing the gearbox we found the problem to be something else...
Whilst the gearbox was out and the fact it wasn't a 2 minute job to do so, we also decided to replace the Flywheel for a new unit.
Another issue that we addressed at the same time was oil starvation causing clutch slip. Under hard acceleration oil is pushed to the back of the gearbox and away from the oil pick up. This in turn reduced the oil pressure providing the clamping force on the clutches and can cause momentary clutch slip.
The Catch Can kit we fitted allowed us to over fill the gearbox eliminating the pressure drop. Increasing the oil level will also help slow down the rising oil temperatures due to increased volume.
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Really liking these video's guys , very informational yet easy to understand.
Keep up the good work.
Agreed.
@@chrisharding5783 Cheers. This car has been good for content
Can't appreciate enough how informative these videos are. Also the audio has improved greatly and that makes it even more enjoyable. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, the comment above disagrees! Haha
Not a bearing and seal fitting kit in sight 😂
Luk and sachs spec 15mm of movement on the dmf... Shocked a new one had that much. I have fitted dmf from both suppliers on a few bkd pd2.0tdi and cfg cr2.0tdi engines and they were shagged could flop and clatter them all over the place. However the new dmf in all cases was super snug and firm with almost no free movement easily.
FYI I've got a OB5 in my s4 and that front differential output shaft slop is the bearing and it's shim Cup worn. So I'm not sure the stub axle was the only culprit. Love the videos I'm so gelous of you daily jobs working on these machines.
Nice calendar 👀 😂
I was lucky with an a6 last year and replaced that bareing without removing the gearbox I also got it from main dealer .Good store man also when doing it always replace shim
Great video, if you could make the volume a little louder it would be appreciated 🙂
After seeing your videos pop up again recently in my feed I’ve decided to start watching all these videos again, I did watch them first time round on different account. This is so above my level of knowledge but so fascinating, honestly some of the best mechanical content out there, your audio and picture is still great even 2years later, much appreciated! Also as said before, I’m getting my A5 3.0 TDi in about 10-12weeks, I’ll be coming over to you guys when I get it (I’ll book first, no worries) and just bought some of your T-shirt’s to be the peak male aesthetic 🤙🏻 see you soon Lads, top work!
Much appreciated, Jay! Taking bookings for Oct at the min btw
@@DarksideDevelopments Sorry for late reply didn’t see the notification, alright buddy, the second I have the keys I’ll give you an email or ring and book in, probably for December time I’d imagine
Ofc it's, after ONLY 2 years lol. U dull?
@@vegePOG Spell correctly, clear up your point, then come back to me. 🔔🔚
@@vegePOG English, speak it?
Learnt more from this video than a lot of the videos I’ve been watching!
Very informative
I've just done something similar on my car, front bearing was worn, got a new one from TPS no problems, about £35. Easiest way I found to get the stub axle out was to screw two longer bolts back into the flange against the housing, came out quite easily. I also managed to do it with the gearbox still installed in the car, was tight but just enough room to get the diff out.
Good idea!
i have play in my stub axle to. Is it the bearing in the differential you changed or just the stub axle?
What was the symptoms of your problem?
Little play is normal, i believe if its bearing, its the bearing inside the differential
Excellent getting to the heart of it. You can and probably should get stiffer springs in the dual mass. Powerboat companies are the expert source when it comes to dual mass flywheels. They deal with 7000hp velvet drives. The DL501 OEM clutches are only rated to 450 ft-lbs. SSP Performance has 600 ft-lb and 800 ft-lb ($1,799) rated clutch packs. Also need viton seals and TCU tune for increased line pressure. Final stage is going to be an hd trans cooler.
The stock seals are Viton, we have a TCM tune and held way over 600lbs. We had a few customers with SSP clutches that slipped worse that stock too! We fitted a transmission cooler in a different video. Thanks for info related to DMF's.
@@DarksideDevelopments I didn't find your other video about that sorry
That's a fruity looking Tigra!
Interesting video chaps! Keep them coming!
1000hp+ less than 800kg
Great Video Guys, keep them coming !!! love the A5 series your doing.
very informative! 'm not a mechanic but i do my own maintenance. I have to say i was cringing a bit when you were puting that shaft in. Using that metal pry bar and hammer. Chills down my spine ;-)
it got the job done!
I think you guys need to watch the S Tronic overhaul vid by Elring.
I do really like Benny Hill music brah!🏄🤙🏻BTW very good info and video.
Boring? Never..!
Another awesome video one of my faves so far in the series really educational
Good work as always. I got manual 3.0 tdi with a vibrations from over 80 mph and higher. So far I have changed all wheel bearings, wheels and tires four times so far, front suspension whole , new drive shafts , new propshaft , new rear diff, gearbox mount, new bearing for the shaft going through gbox to driveshaft , tracking , springs ...... and its still there. You gave me an idea to check the play in that flange .... Will play be noticeable with drive shaft still attached?
What's the part number for that flange and bearings ?
sounds like fun! You would be able to feel it. Drop us an email with your VIN if you can feel play and we can sort you out :)
Great video. After that you made some adaptations with VCDS? Because I can’t imagine without. Also, I have more play in to opposite shaft… I think is the aluminum housing not the bearing.
Yes we did the adaptations
Thanks this is very good information, I did want to now how the clutch works in these more modern cars , as I only Have a 2002 Volvo S60 D5, with one of the pipes from you with the map sensor Bose welded on, so I could fit a STD Bosch 4bar sensor,
Thanks for all of the good videos,
Dave
D5s are beast mate. Straight through centre pipe, egr blank plate and a stage 1 210bhp and it'll rip a lot of modern kit.
@@bigbill74scots
Hi already done , it made 209bhp with the STD ex pipe, at devil developments dyno
I have now put a straight through pipe on and still have the cats, increased the boost another 1psi , so it is now 22.7 psi
Dave
@@davidbrowne1588 Love it mate, proper sleeper you have there👍👍
@@bigbill74scots
Yes had it 5 1/2 years now and still very happy with it,
Fitted all ultra racing chassis braces , 305mm front discs , koni sport rear shocks , 25mm lower springs all round, still got more to do,
I would love the car in the video,
Love the accent "beering"
slide hammer, over here screaming at the screen. lol
I have the 2 gen of this gearbox in my audi a4 year 2016. During first 30 minutes of driving when the oil is cold I feel quite strong vibrations while holding the brake pedal at stoplight. Vibrations are only on D and R. N and P is silky smooth. During any speed shifting seems ok no problem at all. After 30 minutes everything is at it should be. Vibrations are without any noise. I have brand new engine mounts but it didn't help. What could cause this problem?
did you ever find out why it was doing it mine dose the same on 09 plate tho
It’s the 150ps model ?
Great video!
Mad guys
The play in the DMF is for smoother gear changes
Hi guys, nice video, I believe I have similar problem with my a6 c7 3.0, what's the part number from 11min 20s in you video? Thanks
It'll be an NSK bearing as NSK were involved in the development of that box. It's just an off the shelf taper roller bearing c3 clearance. Nothing special lads, promise.
Scottish Outdoors NSK also make some epic linear bearings
@@aqib2000 Agree mate. The linear stuff is worth every penny. Everybody has copied it but never bettered it. The molded oil bearings were first and still best as well.
Scottish Outdoors yeah, IKO is good quality too but NSK sits at the top.
can you say chips n gravy in yah next vid please
I'll try fit it in otherwise people will think I've got tourettes
Hi very interesting video. I have just bought today an audi a7 3.0v6 deisel. I notised a bang noise when reversing up a hill. Could you shed some light on this please.
No idea sat here!
A relative of mine carashed my 2.7tdi the only engine i was able to find was a 3.0tdi the mechanic said he would throw that enging in with the 2.7 transmission
I got the 3.0tdi transmission sitting there , so I guess ill push the old transmission to its limits and then convert it to a quattro😅
Nice vid keep it up!
Would this cause any type of whine?🤔 mine has slight play and I also have a whine in 1st and 2nd?🤔
Hi guys, awesome video !!! Did you guys have a vibration at 60 + Mph? or just noticed the play? I have the vibrations, not bearing nor CV, not tires and rims. I found the play in the stub shaft right side. Figured that must be it. Found your video only while taking things apart. I didn't take the transmission out, just removed the stub shaft. looks good, probably will order a new one and hope for the best? Any advice is appreciated ..Thanks
We noticed some noises which is why we checked it but no vibrations. This usually down to prop shaft/centre bearing issues
Ceau the problem of the game and solved Or they were the cusineto thanks.
Is the front an LSD or can you get an LSD (preferably torsen style) for it? Also, just to be clear, this IS the ZF8, yeah? Didn't know they came without torque converters...
Its an open differential, I believe some people make a torque biasing differential. This is a DL501 which is DSG, not a ZF8.
Interesting stuff, never really fully understood how the VW DSG worked, sometimes they are called s-tronic and sometimes a multitronic then just DSG ? are these all the same thing? Please, asking for a friend, as they say.... 😊
Multitronic is a CVT. S-tronic is Longitudinal. DSG transverse but both are Dual Clutch.
My audi s5 3.0 sport back is showing a mesaage about gear box malfuntion and i can't reverse what this could be. ?
We sell a valve body rebuild kit, try that and a service
Excellent video mate well done
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Looking good now! When are you upgrading the fuel pump? Should be over 400 bhp then!
Should have something on there in the next few days so a week or so for the videos
Iv got same car in manual and I have same problem on passenger side am going to a gear box place today and if they can't fix it looks like il be bringing it to yous lol
Hi i have the same issue how much its cost my for all this job ? 😊 thanks
Drop us an email to sales@darrksidedevelopments.co.uk for costs including labour
Hi. Is front differential fluid shares with transmission fluid? looks like transmission fluid is seperated.
There are 2 fluids in these, DSG and Transmission/Differential
Was the play in that flange causing any sort of vibration at higher speeds? Around 70 mph.
Possibly!
I work at M&T Transmissions Sheffield
Could have helped/sorted that for you no problems mate at no where near that money, that’s just ridiculous
Give me a call if you ever need help with anything gearbox related
Mark
Cheers
So did the replacement of that shaft/cup resolve the noise. I have a A5 2.0 quattro manual transmission, with a whine whirl noise, and play in that cup. Your thoughts on whether it may resolve the whine
It helped for sure
Was the any headway in determining the part number for the bearing. Someone makes that bearing, if the bearing cannot be replaced can a shim be used to help eliminate the movement in the shaft
We never found them!
What oil is on that differential? Is ATF or MTF? Thanks
It's genuine front and rear diff oil - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/genuine-front-and-rear-differential-oil-g-052-145-a1-a2-s2.html
Thanks.
Is flange shaft bearing failure cost knocking sound when starting drive? My isue is knocking sound from 0-25mph after that looks like sound gone, and the same when braking 30-0mph.
Same to my audi a5 manual
Probably just needs a shim behind the bearing race
I also have an audi a4 b8 2013.I have a vibration in the cambio.se change the piece of your video.min11.28 no longer dances.vibration equal as in your video.
How much oil put to dif?
0.9 litres
@@DarksideDevelopments front diff my friend . I think 4L ?
Hello, what power/torque will the 7speed stronic take easily please? Have a 3l tdi and looking at getting it mapped, do u map gearbox aswell. Been informed its best to have torque come in early and then build to match power. 👍👍
have u gotten it mapped yet ?
Do u no if the flange will fit Audi A4 b8 2.0 tdi 8 speed cvt gearbox as it looks the same flange
might be the same or similar
Buying A5 3.0tdi which gearbox choise manual or DSG for 350-400bhp.?
Dsg
the more common bearing fail is on the left side i thought?
in fact it was very interesting pal..... just curious about the flange you replaced...did you measure with a micrometer the snap ring? the new flange snap ring looked a lot thicker to the old one which was worn...im saying it think it was the snap ring that had worn thin through the torque of the crown wheel even though the diff is braced by the alloy cast the shafts still have minimal play thus wearing the snap ring.just a thought.
great stuff anyway ;)
I think the ring was the same thickness, it was the splines that wore a little
My Dmf start to be noise at 60k miles , can i change it without clutches ?
You can but a clutch is not a huge portion not the labour/parts total so it's a false economy.
I've remapped my gearbox. What's the max HP you can run through these boxes safely?
We did 500bhp on one of our projects, but started to slip a little when it hit over 600ft/lbs, when we gave it away it was at a safe 400bhp.
All the specs of ours and the different figures it had are here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-b8-3-0-tdi-cr240-ccwa/
@@DarksideDevelopments Lovely stuff, thanks for the reply. Thoroughly enjoy watching your videos and appreciate what you guys are doing over at dark side. Keep going!
@@DarksideDevelopments When it was running 400bhp what sort of MPG could you get?
Similar to stock really
Perfect job !! Can You tell me what kind of oil is on front differential and how much I need ? 1L ? or more ?
A link to the oils and qty can be found here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-b8-3-0-tdi-cr240-ccwa/
@@DarksideDevelopments so one more quest. front differential is connected with rear part of gearbox ? and to fill up I need 5 l? I had some leak from front differential and Im not sure what kind of oil I need. regards :)
@@adeksus There are just the 2 oils in the gearbox. Gear oil and DSG Oil
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks a lot :)
@Ryan P My Audi A5 3.0tdi quattro Sport 2008 has 6 speed auto gearbox. Is it tiptronic being 2008 model..not S-tronic? If it is tiptronic what would be the max Nm the gearbox could safely handle..less than S-tronic or similar? Also I have noticed that after I have driven around a bit more aggressively (still in D not S mode) 2nd gear tends to change into 3rd gear a lot later in higher rpms nearly around 3rpms (not flooring at all driving calm now) + I can hear some sort of a whinny noise until the gear finally changes. Car is now at 148k miles with no previous record of any gearbox/diff oil changes. Love your A5 project by the way. As I'm only 1hr away from Darkside Developments is suspect you'll be seeing my A5 :) Thanks
It's worth changing the oil before doing anything else.
The TCU adapts to driving so if you are driving aggressively, the shift points will change.
The Tiptronic is rated to 700Nm but we have seen more through them
@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks a lot for the quick reply. Will probably come to you guys to service the gearbox and diffs. How much that would cost roughly?
@@2Fanatical Send us an email with your reg number and we can price up :)
Hello, I've noticed a bit of play on the right side. I own a manual Audi A5 3.0 CCWA. Is it possible to replace the cup on the manual as well or is a bit different on the manual? Thanks
should be the same job!
Great information. Do you think it is possible to remove the left side flange (removed at 3:50) with the gearbox still in the car? (my ElsaWin says I got to remove the whole gearbox and flywheel)
I think it will be impossible to pull the shaft all the way out but you can try first!
Rated for big horsepower? I was always informed that these s tronic boxes can only take up to 600nm of torque so has always restricted me from going further. What can they genuinely take reliably do you know?
Great video guys!
Rated to 1000nm and people have gone beyond. Servicing these boxes is what people neglect and blame components. Ours was likely never done at 95k. 30-40 on the DSG side and 60 to 80 on the gear side.
Ryan P thanks for the reply. I imagine the clutch pack needs uprating after 750nm or so? What’s the next limiting factor after the clutch?
@@coreyengland822 We have managed to make it slip a little now but increasing the clutch pressure before we swap the clutch pack out.
Hi great videos, one question which is the better gearbox, the dsg or the cvt box, I've got a a5 2.7 tdi with a cvt box and I've noticed a slight delay in take off is this normal on these cars, Ian
DSG for sure. CVT is quite weak and has a lot of issues. The delay is normal, that is one of the common issues! Try some new oil to start with
Very informative 👏
What type of oil(code) it needs after you changed the flange please 🙏
This is the oil required:
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/genuine-audi-7-speed-dl501-gearbox-oil-1l-g-052-513-a2.html
Genuine VW /Audi
@@DarksideDevelopments it only needs one liter my friend?
Hi
I wonder if you can help me please. I have a Audi A5 2008 tfsi. I am trying to replace gearbox and I am having problems removing gearbox from engine. All the bolts are undone and it is loose but still won’t come out. Any advice much appreciated
Double check all bolts are removed but they do take force and man power!
Got the very same problem in my 2015 S4, S tronic at 45,000 miles. Is there no chance the flange cup can be pulled out without splitting the diff? Really hoping to do this with the gearbox in situ. Cheers
Some can but this wouldn't!
You can absolutely pull the flange out without removing the gearbox. After pulling the cv axle, attach a slide hammer to the flange and pound it out. Source: I've done it.
@@Rah27704 does the diff fluid pour out when the flange/cup is pulled out?
@@leedensworth5592 If your car is level, you’ll lose very little fluid.
@@Rah27704 thanks for reply,did you have any in and out play in yours? Think mine will pull out by hand it’s that loose,hoping the clip is distorted
I would filter and reuse that oil it’s pre brexit it’s like forking out £60 quid worth of drinks and she don’t put out 😳
I was told to keep the Yorkshire tightness at bay
Do you guys know what other 3.0tdi models these gearboxes are fitted to ? Looking at a a6 3.0tdi but put off with the multitronic and tiptronic boxes.
As a general rule, look for cars advertising S-tronic gearbox, that is Audi's terminology for DSG
The other types are generally advertised as Auto or Multi-tronic
Any tips on the gearbox removal? It's very heavy, did you have to use VW prescribed transmission jack or any regular trans jack works just fine?
3 people and a normal 150kg jack is fine!
@@ryanp6138 I'm only one person, guess you are saying that I can use any good quality jack and don't bother getting ripped of buying VW's tools
Hello,
Where can I buy only discs for clutch and solenoids for mechatronic (gearbox DL501), do you have a link?
Thank you.
we dont have a source
Got a stage 2 audi s4 with upgraded pullys etc. Pushing 450 bhp. Clutch went so im getting an rs5 clutch put in. Whatd be the best advice for a gearbox remap
is the RS5 any different? I'm sure they are the same. We could tune the box but there are people with files off the shelf!
I got a 2015 Q5 TDI coming up on 90000 miles should I change the transmission fluid , and also what you think about the 8-speed transmission
S-Tronic should be serviced every 40k
Email us the VIN and we can quote on the parts.
8 Speed ZF8HP is a great box
I purchased the vehicle with 79000 miles , I wonder if it would be possible to check if they had a service before , not sure if it's right but some people say if he hasn't been serviced on time then it shouldn't be messed with at all , I will send you the VIN number shortly and thank you for the reply
Nice calendar 😂
For oil changes, do you suggest to only change the oil and filter OR should I do a transmission oil flush?
We never flush anything, can cause more trouble.
@@DarksideDevelopments Ok, thanks a lot!
Actually i'm surprised there are no shims on the flange to adjust the play on the taper bearings.
There might be behind the race but it seemed fine.
@@ryanp6138 hopefully all is well now mate, give us all an update when you can, appreciate all your effort putting up the videos.
@@seismictuning1881 if it's not we will release a recall on all the parts sold (none so far!) Haha
@@ryanp6138 well i would be the first to place an order mate but sadly sold my A4 for an F31 335 xdrive and regretting it now :-(
@@seismictuning1881 we can tune the 335d, I have one and it's an animal!
what bearing did you use for drive flange? thanks
OEM
@@DarksideDevelopmentsthe catalog shows me that the bearings cannot be replaced, can you write me the part number of the bearing? thanks sorry for my eng :)
and thank you for video 👍👍👍👍
We only have the cup and seal available www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/audi-s-tronic-drive-flange-cup-seal.html
The cup and seal that's listed, will it fit an Audi A5 manual transmission? Is it a genuine vw part?
Do you guys know much torque a manual transmisson is rated for in a audi a5 3.0 TDI 2008? I cant find any answers on google.
The manual box, we have seen over 650Ft/Lbs without issues. The stock clutches in good condition hold a fair bit of torque
@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks alot, im running a tune right know with 600 Nm (450 ft/lbs)
Hi what hp is the 7 speed s s tronic built to hold
The box is very strong, 500+
@@DarksideDevelopments witch gearbox is stronger 7 s tronic or 8 maltitronic nice to know
8hp strongest
So 8speed stronger i have sent an email
Brought a uprated clutch from you (Link below) how long do you recommend bedding in for?
With any kit ~300 miles stop / start driving should do the job (Y)
I'm planning on buying a 3.0tdi manual quattro.Is a clutch change alot more expensive than on a non Quattro?is there alot more labour involved,parts to remove.
Even the FWD A4's are all a fairly decent job to do, lots of parts to remove, Quattro just has another shaft to take out (Prop). We charge roughly 8 hours.
Thanks for the reply👍
Where can i ask quotations becuase I live in Namibia/Africa . I need so advise .
Plz help?
Drop us an email sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Similar problem as the transporter t5's.
Hello.
Can you tell me, if the right flanges continue to play after replacing?
Or play is his normal behavior?
It had much less play but still a tiny bit
@@DarksideDevelopments Thank for answer.
I have the same problem with playing, and have oil leaking around the flange seal. After change flange seal, leaking not stop.
Cant solve this trouble
starter must be removed to remove gearbox??
Yes
what is the difference between the OEM flywheel (which as per my knowledge is LuK as well) and LuK flywheel ? Does it worth to spend extra on OEM DMF or LuK DMF is a very good option as well ?
LUK is the same part as Dealer - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/luk-flywheel-for-b8-platform-3-0-v6-common-rail-tdi-s-tronic.html
Mine is 2013 a5 sportback 3.0tdi 245bhp with engine code CDUC. I guess this DMF should fit perfectly in ?
@@yassenstanoev6628 Yes it will. If you include your VIN in the order notes, we can double check before dispatch. Thanks
@@DarksideDevelopments so i have changed the DMF. But i still hear the noise from it when I turn off the engine and when on P and slightly pressing the throttle and every time the revs go down i hear it again ........... what should i do ... any suggestions
Any thoughts guys ?
How very complicated
The differential
does not look like torsen. Why ?
Front diff is not limited slip. It's not typical to have limited slip front diff. The center diff will be limited slip.
@@drew0u812 would love to build plate front Diff for this car
I have this same A5 but with the Tiptronic gearbox, and I’m getting a lot of juddering/ shaking when I’m accelerating. Also heavy vibrating when stopped (in drive). Multiple garages say gearbox needs coming out. What’d be your first thoughts on this? 115000 miles 2008. Thanks!
Classic symptoms when the flywheel is very likely to be replaced.
Have you had the box serviced at all? If not do that first.
Might need a DMF too
Darkside Developments How can a service fix this issue? I’m just concerned if it is the flywheel, I’ll have to replace that pricey oil again
@@Coops99 Bad oil wont work properly. No need to drain it to swap FW
Darkside Developments thanks for the reply. Just changed a dodgy driveshaft - that was the issue. Loving your vids
how long it take you guys to get the box out?
Around 6 hours to remove and refit.
Nice vid 👍I'm getting a clutch slip at around 3rd gear and I'm looking for a clutch replacement vid
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C'mon wheres the copper hammer ffs 🙄
It's a soft one
sir are they probkematic gearbox
Like all boxes, they have their issues!
Hi! I have a question . On first model A5 3.0 Automatic , isn’t the Tiptronic gearbox?
They did Tiptronic Automatic and S-Tronic DSG
Thanks
Darkside Developments thanks for the answer . And which one it s better? I mean which one supports the most torque? Tiptronic one right?
I heard the S-tronicn from A7 doesn t support torque more and I think it s the same S tronic
@@georgedolhascu8933 A proper Auto will always be stronger, so yes Tiptronic!
Darkside Developments Thanks again! You re doing a great job
I have 2012 3.0 tdi quattro DL501 Clutch 2 high pressure error Please help
What exact fault code?
Darkside Developments P17D7
@@omerkoca1237 If you haven't already, I would do a full service on the box, all the oils and filters
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/search-results/?q=dl501
Darkside Developments thanks
S- tronic???? which is the year audi A5??
2010
your intro is shaking the walls and after that i can bearly hear him , do something with that mic, otherwise great videos
We will lower the intro tone. Mic is as good as it gets!
is it a dsg?
Yes
hmmm get the feeling the a5s getting a cage
We have a mole
@@ryanp6138 nar just got roll cages on the brain picking my mk4 up from getting one this week
Is it the s tronic?
Yes DL501 S-Tronic / DSG
@@DarksideDevelopments just realized it's in the title 🤦