Jewish Life in Munkatch - March 1933 - complete version
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2009
- Wedding of Frime Chaye Rivke Shapira - daughter of Grand Rebbe Eleazer Shapira of Munkatch, author of Minchas Eleazer (d. 1936), to Rabbi Rabinowitz in March 1933. She was the mother of the present Munkatcher and Dinover Rebbes. Complete version. Includes other scenes of Jewish life in Munkacs, Hungary, both of secular and religious Jews. 1. Wedding. Huge crowds of well wishers gather in the streets on the occasion of the wedding of the Munkacs Grand Rabbi's 18 year old daughter, Frime Chaye Rivke. The Munkatcher Rebbe makes a speech in Yiddish exhorting Jews in America to continue to keep Shabbos (to observe the sabbath day). The wedding party then enters the synagogue grounds, and the cantor sings blessings beneath the wedding canopy (chupah). The wedding concludes with festive hasidic music. Newspaper accounts indicate that some 20,000 people attended the celebrations. 2. Secular Jewish children singing in Munkatch. 3. Traditional Religious Jewish children studying in Orthodox Religious School in Munkatch. 4. Book peddler and weaver in Munkatch. 5. Secular Jews dancing in Munkatch.«
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Thank you for posting this insight in to a past era. I am not Jewish, but when I noted the date of this film, a shudder ran through me.
To recall the unimaginable horror and suffering these happy people were to endure just a few short years after this film was shot makes me quite emotional.
Thank you so much for sharing.
My mother grew up in Munkacs, until they were sent to Auschvitz. She described her Christian neighbors standing outside and clapping as they were led away. Most of her family did not survive. She remembered that wedding of the Rebbi.
The were clapping out of joy?
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My father grew up there too. Years ago I showed him the video and immediately recalled details of the weddibg.
Not all of them were clapping. Many felt sorrow. My grandma, who was in Auschwitz, told us.
I live in Mukachevo too, and till yesterday I didn't know about this part of history of my town. It's very interesting .
Mukachevo was most jewish town in Austria - Hungary. 44% of population were jewish. Emperor Franz Joseph supported jewish community and they thrived. Unfortunately central europe has choosen nationalism and worse came 20 years later. For Ukraine already in 1919.
I wrote a Master's thesis on the Jewish community before WW2. It's available on line at ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/handle/2123/6336/berger_thesis_2009.pdf;sequence=4. I invite you to read it and perhaps send me your comments?
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@@annaberger3427 I'm currently in the middle of your essay and it's amazing, thanks
My great grandparents are from there
@@erichl8200 he was the best king of history. The jews people we love him ❤
This brought tearrs to my eyes, just thinking of what was soon to come.
I'm ever so grateful you've downloaded this. My father came from Munkac altho he was 2 at this time.11yrs later the entire community was destroyed in Birkeneau.
my grandfather Z"L is seen here accompanying the groom's carriage on it's rear left corner.
But for direct footage the world would never know that they existed. Thanks for giving them recognition. My heart bleeds for they knew not the evil that was about to be unleashed upon their innocent lives!
Thank you for showing the whole Jewish community of Munkatch here. One of the Spinker family sent his son to Israel in 1935, so that son survived the Shoah.
It is pleasant to see their spirit; it is sad to contemplate what came after this.
Shalom Sir.
My Grandpa, Bernie Szabo, grew up here with his family, Aaron Szabo is the last survivor of the family, here in New York
my grandfather Z"L is seen here accompanying the groom's carriage on it's rear left corner.
I live in Mukachevo ;-)
Very interesting to see so old video
Breaks my heart.
grand moment , document d''exception , magnifique
This is my maternal grandmother’s hometown. It was such a center of Jewish life and culture. I’m thankful that she emigrated to the United States 20 years prior to this date, but tragically many of her extended family were killed by the Nazis.
Only 11% of Jewish children alive in Europe in 1936 were still alive in 1946. The tragedy is compounded by the loss of their potential descendants.
Meir Wise my heart weeps every time I remember all the family surnames that were lost forever , im fortunate enough that my family left for the Americas centuries before
My aunt was a dress maker/Taylor in Munkac. When my father arrived in Auschwitz, an aquaintance of his waved him to the barbed wire enclosure he was penned in. He told my father,"Srul, your sister, her children and your mother arrived last week. They left through the chimney". " Within a week he, too, was gone.
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Shalom
Thanks for sharing🙏
My father and my cousin were at that wedding. Most of my other relatives as well as most of the other Jews pictured were murdered a scant 11 years later.
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My father also was at the wedding. He said everyone attended, even the Czech President.
Мой дедушка с отцом были на той свадьбе ,отец дедушки был Шойхет резник скота.
I totally agree. My late mother's parents came from Hungary in the late 1880s, and when my oldest aunt was one year old in 1901 or 1902, my grandfather went back to Hungary to visit his parents. However, when they asked my grandfather to come back with his wife and little girl (his parents were quite comfortable at the time), my grandmother didn't want to go back to Europe. If they had gone back, it is highly likely that my grandparents, and then nine children would have perished at the hands of the Nazis.
My grandmother was the only survivor from her family here
Look up Steven Speilburgs rare Jewish film archives ...has many other old films...very nice . Todah !
Amazing. Never saw this before. Today that life in Europe is no more, but thank G-d, a new life for Jews exists in Israel, the United States, and elsewhere too. I helped to produce a film shot partially in Munkatch or Munkach in 1994 and 1995 called Carpati, to see what little remained there.
The documentary alternates between secular and orthodox lifestyles ..there was a significant secular population living there as well...
Köszi .
i saw the video of these children singing the Hatikvah in the Holocaust museum in Israel a couple years ago. i never realised until now that this video was from Munkatch, where my Jewish grandfather & his family grew up before being taken to concentration camps :( maybe he & his family are in this video somewhere
@Chazzan805
In Munkatsch there was Rabbi Shapira who was antizionist and the first zionist school in Czecholsovakia- the two movements clashed.
Correct me if im wrong, but it seems like they have some other wording to the hatikva.
& In section 3 of the clip, what are the children saying with their school teacher?
There are still Hasidim in the world, and Munkatcher Hasidim at that. Baruch Hashem! No matter what the descendents of Amalek try to do, the Jewish people will prevail.
Yes there are, and we’re still watching this video. שֶׁבְּכָל דּוֹר וָדוֹר עוֹמְדִים עָלֵינוּ לְכַלּוֹתֵנוּ
וְהַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא מַצִּילֵנוּ מִיָּדָם
In every generation, they stand up against us to destroy us, and G-d saves us from their hands.
@@user-ci9ng7uu4i Didn't see God saving anyone they all Perished. Where was God please tell me
@@davidcohen104 there were survivors although most, vast majoriry were murdered by the "educated" universtiy graduates of germany. If there is no fear of h
Heaven the most educated people, proffessors, doctors etc. can turn cruel beasts and murderes and become worse than animals
How many of those on the recording lived after May 1945? Scared, very few. A terrible period followed 11 years after the film was made!
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@Nov633 They are not frum, and you are making an argument where there isn't one. If you even bothered to read the video title, it even says "secular jews dancing". Next time read so that you do not look like a fool.
Amazing how boys and girls, apparently frum, dance together to the words of a holy prayer. And no Rabbi screams "gevaldt!"
No, the town had different groups of Jews. Hasidim, mitnagdim. Religious, secular, secular Zionists, religious Zionists, Socialists... What you see are probably Zionist youth.
That is what is called a healthy, vibrant, community
These are not religious jews
@Nov633
The men and women dancing together are definitely not religious. The religious would not do that. In fact it's actually forbidden.
@@motog4-75 Today you are correct, but back then the standards of religiousness were different.
Oh, I just saw the name 770moshiachnow. The moshiachnow bit gives his affiliation away more than the number no? But what is the 770 thing about?
That was in reference to the mixed dancing.
People, people, there were many ideologies and "isms" in Europe at the time among Jews, just like today. Fruma Rabbonim did not sanction such things, especially the Munkatcher Rebbe.
Starting from 2:46, they're singing 'Hatikva' (The Hope) - a song which will become the national anthem of the state of Israel.
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Which Hasidic circles sing this?
This is realy touching to see, and sad at the same time, knowing the fate of most people in this video. I am grateful for those who survived and wish them all te be 120 years of age in "gesundkeid".
I never knew Hatikvah was sung before 1947. Nice.
@@mendelinisrael9343 I think you're confusing Havah Nagilah with Hatikvah.
The tune of Havah Nagilah is an old tune and it is still sung in Skver. The words for Hatikvah were written in 1878 it was just written as a poem without a tune. A few years later somebody added an old Romanian folks song for the tune.
@@samcarter8828
So they are both old songs then.
I heard hava nagila was a viznitz song. Not skver.
@boombarass
The zionists dancing aren't necessarily secular but they are not orthodox like the Hasidic movement that was led by Rabbi Shapira shown in video
When those kids were singing HaTikwa I was shivering, i wonder how much of them made it to israel...
Мой дедушка выжыл и его друг , просто чудом уцелели ,хотя полицайты искали везде евреев спрятаться было фактически нереально😢
Does anyone know what's the name of the song where they are dancing the Hora?
Auren Lopez been a year but you deserve an answer - "יוללה יוללה" translated to Yulala Yulala. The music is the same one used during the jewish Holiday of Purim.
Danielo wow!!’ Thanks so very much!!!!
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@@danielogats
I have never heard this on Purim.
& I'm orthodox.
@@motog4-75 Its not Orthodox. Its the same as חג פורים חג פורים חג גדול ליהודים.
Explain what you mean by 'ultra- hasidic'? Surely one is chossidishe or not!?
Did anyone realize the footage at 7:00 where MEN AND WOMAN DANCING TOGETHER !????
They are secular probably Zionist youth.
It's even described in the description of the different parts of the video.
Trust me they were far from what we would call frum. Note the change in Haavara as well
The havara is a trivial change. Other changes, such as the mixing of genders I mentioned, are more significant.
My point is, the definition of what is frum changes. The frum of yesterday is the epikoirus of today.
Or, like my tatte of blessed memory used to comment on the seider nacht:
"Why do they print new haggodahs every year?
"Because the Chacham of last year has become a Rosho this year, so they need a new Chacham for this year's hagadah!"
Здесь они все еще живы....
Mukatchevo, the area my family came from to Czechoslovakia (now the Czech Republic). Kol-beseder
Munkàcs was former Hungary, now Ukraine.
@@erikvadasz7435 Munkacs was part of Czechoslovakia between 1920 and 1940. Most of the city's infrastructure was built by them.
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But it was also Czechoslovakia. My grandparents were from there. They were Chasidim of the munkatcher Rebbe .
What song is sung by the young zionists dancing hora?
MultiTakida Yulala yulala
"Al yeday zeh" it is from counting the omer.
Juchu super
None of the rabbinic in shteimlach here would have felt the need to buy a pesachdik shtreimel as was suggested this past week in Brooklyn.
How long had these people been living in Hungary? Still not speaking Hungarian in Munkács?
They spoke Yiddish. They also spoke Rusyn, Hungarian, German, Hebrew, Romanian and other languages. Don't be such an antisemetic fascist, Hungarian Nationalist asshole. Sorry, never learned much Hungarian. My uncle said it was a throat disease.
They did speak Hungarian. 2 of My ancestors who came from Muncatch spoke Hungarian, Yiddish, Hebrew, and eventually English. In fact, they spoke enough Hungarian that generations later, after decades in America, they have very clearly Hungarian accents.
So far, every jew I met who's parents or grandparents were from Munkacs, those that immigrated before the war, who's kids were already born in USA, spoke some Hungarian, but many spoke Hungarian fluently. Whatever you're saying, you are wrong.
@@LuV2SPDup There's no right or wrong. My father came from there. In his household/family they knew very little Hungarian, understood some words. Basically just spoke Yiddish. He had many cousins in Baudapest area and of course they spoke 100% Hungarian, and almost no Yiddish.
In Munkacs it all depended on the home and whom you were exposed to on a daily basis if you were Jewish. My father had an uncle I knew well. He was a veteran of the Hungarian army so he spoke Hungarian.
A real conversation! Nice! Yeah, I also was lacking better words. It's just difficult to bracket Chabad. I haven't read enough Chassidishe material (yet) to comment on what is great or not, but Lubavitchers are generally lovely people. Apparently, Lubavitch isn't the only school of Chabad. There is a few. Chabad malachim are deemed quasi-Chassidishe. Don't quite understand what that means, but they have their own seperate Alef Beis or something.
it's unberable for me , all killed unberable !
Awww, Those poor kids didn't get to see the light of day , when hitler came. :( There world must of been tragic after seeing thee deaths and horrors.
Sad irony. The Grand Rabbi exhorts for the camera(s): if the Jews in america keep the Sabbath, everything will be good. Maybe the Jews kept the Sabbath better in Munkatch, but it was not good.
Шалом ! Спасибо за ето видео мне бабушка и дедушка об тех временах росказывали , я с общины с .Пузняковцы последний оставшыйся , дедушки друг Берко Готесман уехал в конце 60 в Исраель у нас смешаная семья была дедушки отец имел розводное письмо Гет , но ничего с документов не сохранилось умер в95г. Его отец похоронен на еврейском кладбище с.Пузняковце могилу не показал к сожалению ,ищу кого то с нашей общины , если такие найдуться буду рад пообщаться !!!
Well, Lubavitch is Lubavitch. It's very obvious that they aren't conventional Chossidim. As they are one sect that is so vastly different, wouldn't it make more sense to say; 'Chossidim other than quasi-Chossidim', rather than ascribing prefixes to the original like ultra?. Heshy Fried@frumsatire has a rant about how Lubavitchers are "Chassidic, but not Cossidishe". Do yoy know about the Chabad Malakhim?
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It's a shame many of them did. It's a shame that you didn't.
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thanks for the insight and Happy to see life is moving on towards a goal midnightabbi1eligoldsmith.wordpressin-2013-a-rebbe-a-new-book-and-getting-ready-with-the-fam-for-purim-5773
Not European civilization, indeed...
there is no way this is real thing.
12 years later, I hope at least one brain cell developed in your head
& what exactly is not real 🤔?
what a messy lot !! another few years they would have disappeared forever
I didn´t lie the zionists part,, and men dancing between women! horrible!