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i have a 992 Sport Classic. And of course I've had the same thoughts in my Head. Let me tell you why I got it. For me it's a Car I will drive not that frequently. So whenever i go in my garage and take the SC for a spin it's something special. The moment you enter your garage and see this beauty, it's way more emotional that seeing a TurboS. Both cars are crazy fast und 99% of the time you don't need the Power. Had a GTS as a daily and it's perfect with its 480HP. I'm not a typical Porsche collector but the Sport Classic should stay as long as it gets. When you look at heritage Porsche models you never go: wow the power of a 993 4s is better than the power of 993 base model. You feel connected to the car because of the beauty it still has. That is why I think the 992 Sport Classic is just perfect. Why make it crazy fast, loud, or hard on the Road. I hope that in 20/30 Years I still go into my garage and see this beauty sitting there, ready to drive, giving me that emotion of driving something special. Because at the end that's what the SC is all about. My GT3 drives way better and I love to take it on the track. But taking the SC out is something else and hard to describe.
The Turbo S a very special car. An incredible piece of machinary. So clinical and composed. 4 wheel drive. Crazy speed but for me i think its got to be the Sport Classic. The Recipe of big power, real wheel drive and manual drive with the driving dynamics of Porsche . I think its special. Very cool. On a Sunday id take out the Sport Classic out
Nice! A 911 is a hallmark vehicle and owning one is a relatively exclusive club that few can afford and enjoy. My present 911 is a 991.1 C4S, black in colour with a ducktail spoiler, and I think it looks great. The NA flat six engine is an incredible symphony that sounds like few others. The Turbo S is an incredible benchmark supercar that will destroy most vehicles in most performance metrics. Love the GTS as well!!
Tried to get a Sport Classic, not that easy. Allocations taken. I love a manual, enjoy rear wheel drive and LOVE the duck tail. Turbo S is great, but wow, just hang on....!!!
I would recommend a 991.2 GT3 Touring. Great car, manual gearbox and with a few tweaks it can be very rewarding. We tested one on the channel last year. Take a look at the review.
Cool video Mark. The Sport Classic looks are epic but would I be correct to think if you wanted a daily 992 911, a GTS would be the one to go for? Along with a huge saving in cash!! I'd love a ride in a 'special' 911, like the GT3, Turbo S or a GT4 just to experience it! 👍
The 992 GTS is very similar to the Sport Classic in many ways but of course not a limited edition car and it only has 480ps. That said, it is a lot cheaper and would make a great daily driver.
Porsche , for quite some time already , is a master in launching limited edition models for astronomic prices. And Fans around the globe are paying any price. I do remember the days mid of the 90‘s when Porsche had its crisis and the prices were reasonable. They even had spares in their workshop at the factory where they sold them for less than the regular price. The days are long ago and Porsche will carry on bringing new limited edition cars on the market. Not for me. 😝😝😝
Some of the models that come from the GT division are excellent, but I agree, the Sport Classic is not one of them. I would prefer the Sport Classic to have 650ps and a PDK gearbox with RWD. That would be exciting for me.
Well I think the engineers in Porsche has done a good job trying to replicate the feel and the nostalgia of a 911 of the 70s or early 80s. If you have experience a 930 turbo, the Sport Classic is very akin to that. The power band, the turbo lag and also how the rear wheel drive these ignite the originity of how a Sport Classic should feel. Don’t forget the Sport Clasic is to commemorate the Heritage Edition. A history of Porsche 911 of yesteryear.
The sport classic is all about the kings new clothes. Buy a nicely equipped Carrera S manual, have most of the power and save hundreds of thousands. It’s just Porsche taking the piss.
Love the turbo s and the sport classic wouldnt change that. To me its another cash grab limited edition. Loved the vid though and its all around my area
Great video, as ever. Isn’t the point of the Heritage 911 to hark back, but with modern tech? An older feel, a tad slower and less responsive - giving you the impression you’re driving an older vehicle, but to modern standards.
I am a big fan of Porsche and have been a customer for over 20 years. I love the look of the 992 Sport Classic, but I would prefer it to have at least as much power as a 992 Turbo S if I am paying an extra £50,000 for one!!
I can only agree with you. I don't want to pay 50 000 £ extra with 100 bhp less, only RWD and a manual gear box. For the classic edition, the owner can just hope that the limted number of car will influence in the following years the price of their "collector" ????
It seems to me that the Sport Classic is more an upgraded Carrera with its 3.0 engine and the seven speed manual, than a Turbo S 3.8 with reduced power, deleted awd. Being a limited edition is the appeal.
It is the same 3.75 litre engine as the turbo. As MF said the power cut is probably due to the 7 speed manual. If someone dares to put a upgraded clutch in it they could probably go up to turbo s hp numbers with just a remap
Love the wheels the colour & the details on the sports classic it's absolutely wonderful imo! Great video & keep them coming as its a wonderful break from the daily bs getting plaid on us through the msm! ❤
I don't think Turbo S buyers even care about manual. So a slightly slower Turbo S that looks a bit different but costs that much more? If you are a Turbo fan, probably not worth it. Maybe if you are a collector.
I had 90 % of the fun in my 2004 Mini Cooper S...MC40 Edition....for 25K...the whole Porsche Price Thing is Ludicrous.... have fun with your millionaire toys...
The mother of all the 911 modern classics is the 2013 911-50… A limited production of 1963 CS with a wide body, and plenty of classic design elements… An amazing car, and for some reason underrated by automotive experts… I am expecting this car value to skyrocket, time will tell 🤷🏼♂️
The steering on the 992 Sport Classic felt a little less sharp as you would expect. The 992 Turbo S had 1400 miles and was run in. The 992 Sport Classic was fairly new so hard to push the engine and know how it sounded.
In short in my opinion and experience - No. I really struggled to find the extra difference for the £50k above the already excellent Turbo S. In fact when you drive a very base 992 Carrera and then a loaded 992 GTS where the difference was also £40/50k including extras it’s also very hard to feel and accept it’s that much more money and that’s because the base car is very very good already. Just my experience
I think that Porsche should modify the 911, so that it has a trunk (wink). To do this you would have to eliminate the rear seats and move the engine forward in a position in front of or on the rear axle. All in order to gain comfort and be able to transport more luggage (wink again).
if it about exclusivity the then the Sports Classic....if it is about performance, 992 Turbo S. Honestly our a Duck tail away from the SC look. For me, I prefer the looks of the 997!!! His 4.0 is the real winner!!!
Nothing will ever be as pure as the 997 GT3 RS models. However, if you are looking to buy a modern Porsche then the 992 Turbo S ticks a lot of boxes. I personally prefer the 718 GT4 and GT4 RS.
If it was my money, I will buy the turbo-s and with the 50k that I save, I would buy a used 991 50th anniversary model. Two itches scratched… a powerful car and a collectible car
It's a bit too detuned. A GTS in manual is much faster. My 930 with Kokeln turbo, 1 bar spring, cat delete, and some weight savings will do 4 even with the super long throw. You'd think they could do better with this.
The list price for the 992 Turbo S is £168,900. I got the information from the Porsche website: www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-turbo-models/911-turbo-s/
I would have preferred the Sport Classic to be a PDK gearbox with 650ps and RWD. That would have been fun. I guess we need to wait for the 992 GT2 RS for that.
No car in the world is worth 50k more than turbo s .Because there is no better car than that. But this is rare ,it will be limited production car . CARS SIMILIAR ( NOT EXACTLY) TO THAT FROM PREVIOUS 2 GENERATION NOW ARE DOUBLE THE PRICE ON THE MARKET. SO YES ITS WORTH IT ,BECAUSE YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE 200 K INCREASE OF YOUR WEALTH ,WHEN YOU BUY IT .
SC will hold its value and be worth approx double it’s list price (they are already commanding resale price. The TurboS is already sinking like a stone price wise A very strange concept this video. It’s like comparing brass to gold.
The Turbo S is in many way the flagship model from Porsche and costs £168,900. The 992 Sport Classic is also a Turbo Charged engine and the list price is £215,000. So on paper the Sport Classic should offer the customer more fun for more money! However in reality it doesn't. The premium really is down to the fact that it is a limited edition model. By the way, the cheapest 992 Turbo S for sale in the UK right now is a 2020 model for £167,500. Still around list price 3 years after it was launched. So you are incorrect about prices sinking!
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i have a 992 Sport Classic. And of course I've had the same thoughts in my Head. Let me tell you why I got it. For me it's a Car I will drive not that frequently. So whenever i go in my garage and take the SC for a spin it's something special. The moment you enter your garage and see this beauty, it's way more emotional that seeing a TurboS. Both cars are crazy fast und 99% of the time you don't need the Power. Had a GTS as a daily and it's perfect with its 480HP. I'm not a typical Porsche collector but the Sport Classic should stay as long as it gets. When you look at heritage Porsche models you never go: wow the power of a 993 4s is better than the power of 993 base model. You feel connected to the car because of the beauty it still has. That is why I think the 992 Sport Classic is just perfect. Why make it crazy fast, loud, or hard on the Road. I hope that in 20/30 Years I still go into my garage and see this beauty sitting there, ready to drive, giving me that emotion of driving something special. Because at the end that's what the SC is all about. My GT3 drives way better and I love to take it on the track. But taking the SC out is something else and hard to describe.
5:02 The Lamborghini Artura 😅
Caught that too.
Lol 😂
My bad!
@@888mf4 no worries, it happens to the best of us
The Turbo S a very special car. An incredible piece of machinary. So clinical and composed. 4 wheel drive. Crazy speed but for me i think its got to be the Sport Classic. The Recipe of big power, real wheel drive and manual drive with the driving dynamics of Porsche . I think its special. Very cool. On a Sunday id take out the Sport Classic out
I think the Sport Classic looks very special but if I had a £215000 budget I would buy a GT4 RS or a 991.2 GT3 Touring.
If they offered a turbo s with the duck tail spoiler, it'd be the bees knees
911 Sport Classic is my favourite Porsche
You won’t get one ☝️
Why
That pause and sigh towards the end said it all!
I needed to compose my thoughts :)
I once saw a 992 turbo s just like the one in this video parked up. Pictures or videos don't do justice to the way it looks.
I agree. They do look menacing on the road though.
I'm fortunate enough to own 3 Porches. That duck tail really doesn't do it for me. Manual gear box GTS. PDK Turbo S.
Nothing wrong with a 992 GTS.
Nice! A 911 is a hallmark vehicle and owning one is a relatively exclusive club that few can afford and enjoy. My present 911 is a 991.1 C4S, black in colour with a ducktail spoiler, and I think it looks great. The NA flat six engine is an incredible symphony that sounds like few others. The Turbo S is an incredible benchmark supercar that will destroy most vehicles in most performance metrics. Love the GTS as well!!
Beautiful car but most/all never get driven, it’s a shame. I drive my 22 manual Carrera S cab daily. Gonna put a million miles on it.
Lamborgini Artura?
My bad
Tried to get a Sport Classic, not that easy. Allocations taken. I love a manual, enjoy rear wheel drive and LOVE the duck tail.
Turbo S is great, but wow, just hang on....!!!
I would recommend a 991.2 GT3 Touring. Great car, manual gearbox and with a few tweaks it can be very rewarding. We tested one on the channel last year. Take a look at the review.
The Turbo s is much quicker than you say. 2.2- 2.4 sec 0-60 in many tests.
The sport classic should be 50k less. Not 50k more. I would never choose this car over a turbo s
Well, it has less power and only RWD so theoretically it should be less. However it is a limited edition model, so will always carry a premium.
Manual, enough said. I was bored with my 991TT within a month, traded in for a 997 GT3 and now a 981 Spyder, never missed the Turbo
Love the concept of the Sport Classic but it’s too much money. Ultimately it’s Turbo based rather than Turbo S so price differential even greater.
I also think it is too much money, but they've sold out.
I'd go for a gts with aero kit looks better than both plus cheaper just as fast on the road.. well not quite ha
A lot of people have said the same. Seems the 992 GTS is a good daily driver at a reasonable price.
Cool video Mark. The Sport Classic looks are epic but would I be correct to think if you wanted a daily 992 911, a GTS would be the one to go for? Along with a huge saving in cash!! I'd love a ride in a 'special' 911, like the GT3, Turbo S or a GT4 just to experience it! 👍
The 992 GTS is very similar to the Sport Classic in many ways but of course not a limited edition car and it only has 480ps. That said, it is a lot cheaper and would make a great daily driver.
any 992 911 would be an brilliant daily driver imo, u don't need power on the streets, and u still got the feeling of being in a 911
It's s no brainer, I'd go for the turbo s.
That was my conclusion !
Am loving the turbo s more
Excellent video comparison! Thank you for making this one.👍
Thanks for the positive feedback!
Porsche , for quite some time already , is a master in launching limited edition models for astronomic prices. And Fans around the globe are paying any price. I do remember the days mid of the 90‘s when Porsche had its crisis and the prices were reasonable. They even had spares in their workshop at the factory where they sold them for less than the regular price. The days are long ago and Porsche will carry on bringing new limited edition cars on the market. Not for me. 😝😝😝
Some of the models that come from the GT division are excellent, but I agree, the Sport Classic is not one of them. I would prefer the Sport Classic to have 650ps and a PDK gearbox with RWD. That would be exciting for me.
I don't understand why nobody is talking about the Turbo. Only Turbo without a S. Nobody reviews it. Much cheaper and nearly as fast. Best value.
Well I think the engineers in Porsche has done a good job trying to replicate the feel and the nostalgia of a 911 of the 70s or early 80s. If you have experience a 930 turbo, the Sport Classic is very akin to that. The power band, the turbo lag and also how the rear wheel drive these ignite the originity of how a Sport Classic should feel. Don’t forget the Sport Clasic is to commemorate the Heritage Edition. A history of Porsche 911 of yesteryear.
I would absolutely pick this over all other current 911’s. One for looks and because I don’t need the fastest car to make me feel good or have fun.
But would you pay £350,000 for one if you couldn't buy it new from Porsche??
The sport classic is all about the kings new clothes. Buy a nicely equipped Carrera S manual, have most of the power and save hundreds of thousands. It’s just Porsche taking the piss.
They've sold out the full 1250 units, so they must be doing something right.
@@888mf4 there’s one born every minute . Or in this case, 1250
Not for me. I'd take the 992 Turbo S, even if the price differential were zero. Love the PDK, and 650 horses...
Love the turbo s and the sport classic wouldnt change that. To me its another cash grab limited edition. Loved the vid though and its all around my area
Thanks for the positive feedback. The Sport Classic is a limited edition Porsche so it will always do well.
I'd take a turbo S with the SC wheels
Good to have you back. It has been too long 😀
Thank you!!
I would go for the Turbo S definitely 🫠
Awesome car!!
Great video, as ever. Isn’t the point of the Heritage 911 to hark back, but with modern tech? An older feel, a tad slower and less responsive - giving you the impression you’re driving an older vehicle, but to modern standards.
I am a big fan of Porsche and have been a customer for over 20 years. I love the look of the 992 Sport Classic, but I would prefer it to have at least as much power as a 992 Turbo S if I am paying an extra £50,000 for one!!
I can only agree with you. I don't want to pay 50 000 £ extra with 100 bhp less, only RWD and a manual gear box. For the classic edition, the owner can just hope that the limted number of car will influence in the following years the price of their "collector" ????
The ultimate sport classic ethos car would be: 992 touring manual with the ducktail from this one and 997 folding bucket seats and rear seats
Nice to see these cars driven and not stuck in a garage somewhere or posing around London which is a total waste
Over Ten years,the Sport Classic,is worth the same ore more… not that hard to figure out.
Sport classic is an investment, that is all!
I totally agree with that. A limited edition 911. That is always going to command a premium.
It seems to me that the Sport Classic is more an upgraded Carrera with its 3.0 engine and the seven speed manual, than a Turbo S 3.8 with reduced power, deleted awd. Being a limited edition is the appeal.
It is a 992 GTS with more power and a better body.
It is the same 3.75 litre engine as the turbo. As MF said the power cut is probably due to the 7 speed manual. If someone dares to put a upgraded clutch in it they could probably go up to turbo s hp numbers with just a remap
Your video's are well worth the wait !!!
Thanks for the positive feedback!
Love the wheels the colour & the details on the sports classic it's absolutely wonderful imo! Great video & keep them coming as its a wonderful break from the daily bs getting plaid on us through the msm! ❤
Thanks for the positive feedback. More content coming soon!!
I’m quite happy with my Turbo S , in my opinion it’s not worth it.
This gives me some carrera vibes. I'd do it with awd and manual.
I don't think Turbo S buyers even care about manual. So a slightly slower Turbo S that looks a bit different but costs that much more? If you are a Turbo fan, probably not worth it. Maybe if you are a collector.
The owner of this Sport Classic owns both!! If you want a daily driver you could also go for a 992 GTS which is cheaper.
Less is more! said Ludwig Mies van der Rohe
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Less costs more! says Porsche
Excellent Review... Thanks! 🍻
I had 90 % of the fun in my 2004 Mini Cooper S...MC40 Edition....for 25K...the whole Porsche Price Thing is Ludicrous.... have fun with your millionaire toys...
Lamborghini artura? Mean McLaren?
My bad
The mother of all the 911 modern classics is the 2013 911-50… A limited production of 1963 CS with a wide body, and plenty of classic design elements… An amazing car, and for some reason underrated by automotive experts… I am expecting this car value to skyrocket, time will tell 🤷🏼♂️
Well done. Excellent review.
No rear windshield wiper on the classic?
I love my 2023 Turbo s
Classic is to gimmick
? No perspective on the steering? How about the suspension and sounds after 2 hour drive to a nice destination? This is not enough.
The steering on the 992 Sport Classic felt a little less sharp as you would expect. The 992 Turbo S had 1400 miles and was run in. The 992 Sport Classic was fairly new so hard to push the engine and know how it sounded.
Great video Mark
Thank you!
In short in my opinion and experience - No. I really struggled to find the extra difference for the £50k above the already excellent Turbo S.
In fact when you drive a very base 992 Carrera and then a loaded 992 GTS where the difference was also £40/50k including extras it’s also very hard to feel and accept it’s that much more money and that’s because the base car is very very good already. Just my experience
Beutiful Porsche 992 👍👌 Automatically and Maximum harspower . New Model
Is the suspension difference because of PASM? and if so - which setting were u in?
Wish I could have both
Haha! You brought these beautiful cars down my way - Bedford! Welcome 👍
It’s where the owner lives 👍🏻
"Lamborghini Artura" 😅
My bad! Not easy to talk and drive at the same time.
@@888mf4 easily done, happens a lot when watching people drive and talk. We knew what you meant.
2 of the best cars ever made yet, very underrated. Those are BMW M5 and Porsche 911 Turbo S
Hate reviewers doesn’t take adm in consideration and comparing prices. It’s more like a 200k more than turbo s.
I think that Porsche should modify the 911, so that it has a trunk (wink). To do this you would have to eliminate the rear seats and move the engine forward in a position in front of or on the rear axle. All in order to gain comfort and be able to transport more luggage (wink again).
I’ll take the turbo S every time
very good and truthworthy review !!!
This Sport classic is a very special car in my eyes 👍
They got the Sport Classic so right. It's subtle, but still says "bring it on"
I love the design.
Civilized GT2 RS/ GT2RS that you can daily
if it about exclusivity the then the Sports Classic....if it is about performance, 992 Turbo S. Honestly our a Duck tail away from the SC look. For me, I prefer the looks of the 997!!! His 4.0 is the real winner!!!
Nothing will ever be as pure as the 997 GT3 RS models. However, if you are looking to buy a modern Porsche then the 992 Turbo S ticks a lot of boxes. I personally prefer the 718 GT4 and GT4 RS.
Car Gurus has a 911 Sport Classic on sale right now for $700,000. Ya hard pass... you could buy a GT3, and GT4 RS for that much.
If it was my money, I will buy the turbo-s and with the 50k that I save, I would buy a used 991 50th anniversary model. Two itches scratched… a powerful car and a collectible car
Pretty sure the 7 speed manual can handle the torque, even reduced, and the 6 speed from the GT cars can’t. Remember, every car it comes on is NA
Well I mean if you think about it the gt3 touring would be a cheaper and better option I’d imagine
I was comparing turbo charged engines in this video. However if you want N/A then I would go for a 991.2 GT3 Touring!
@@888mf4 yes I wouldn’t say no if it was offered to me
It's a bit too detuned. A GTS in manual is much faster. My 930 with Kokeln turbo, 1 bar spring, cat delete, and some weight savings will do 4 even with the super long throw. You'd think they could do better with this.
I d love to have a 992 SC - What an amazing car
where you get these prices from 168k for a brand new turbo s when its 187k for used 2022 turbo s and brand new for 210k on autotrader
The list price for the 992 Turbo S is £168,900. I got the information from the Porsche website: www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-turbo-models/911-turbo-s/
Did you say 50,000 more than a 992 Turbo S...Okay I don't have to finish the video...my answer is no thanks.
So they are asking for MORE, to give you LESS.
LOL! No thanks!
5:02 did he really say Lamborghini Artura… I thought Mclaren made the Artura ???
It’s not like u can get a Sport Classic for an extra 50k anyway
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Buy the Turbo S... convert to RWD = winning
Yes. It's rarer and more beautiful.
911 Turbo **580hp is pefect.
That is a very dull interior the classic for some reason 🤔?
There are much brighter interiors out there for sure. This one is rather discreet.
Lamborghini Artura ???? 5:00 mins
Go Turbo not S
Too bad you couldn’t buy it for $50k more then a Turbo S
Probably not. A detuned motor is never a winning formula.
I would have preferred the Sport Classic to be a PDK gearbox with 650ps and RWD. That would have been fun. I guess we need to wait for the 992 GT2 RS for that.
@@888mf4 they say it will be hybrid and pushing +800hp
Lambo artura?
Dakar!
Very sensible advice!
"Promo SM"
you want an honest opinion or one that only your admins will approve?
No car in the world is worth 50k more than turbo s .Because there is no better car than that. But this is rare ,it will be limited production car . CARS SIMILIAR ( NOT EXACTLY) TO THAT FROM PREVIOUS 2 GENERATION NOW ARE DOUBLE THE PRICE ON THE MARKET. SO YES ITS WORTH IT ,BECAUSE YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE 200 K INCREASE OF YOUR WEALTH ,WHEN YOU BUY IT .
SC will hold its value and be worth approx double it’s list price (they are already commanding resale price.
The TurboS is already sinking like a stone price wise
A very strange concept this video. It’s like comparing brass to gold.
The Turbo S is in many way the flagship model from Porsche and costs £168,900. The 992 Sport Classic is also a Turbo Charged engine and the list price is £215,000. So on paper the Sport Classic should offer the customer more fun for more money! However in reality it doesn't. The premium really is down to the fact that it is a limited edition model. By the way, the cheapest 992 Turbo S for sale in the UK right now is a 2020 model for £167,500. Still around list price 3 years after it was launched. So you are incorrect about prices sinking!
@@888mf4 sinking from overs I should have said, that gravy train seems to be over on the S.