BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (2005) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This week we're watching BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN!! Holy wow, this is some of the best acting I've ever witnessed! Sound off below with your thoughts!!
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In an interview shortly after the release, Anne Hathaway said that Ang Lee filmed the final telephone call two different ways, once with her knowing that she was lying about what happened, and once with her telling the story about the tire iron as if it were the truth, and then during editing, Lee spliced parts of the two takes together to make her feelings in the scene seem more ambiguous.
You haven't lived until you see this movie on the big screen in NYC in the West Village. Good thing I was in the back in a dark corner cause the Anne Hathaway back seat breasts scene, I let out a 'Yea Baby' a little TOO loud. And yes, a slow burn, lots of 'Just F@#k Already!' were shouted out 40 minutes in!
heath ledger was only 25 when he filmed this. his subtle aging throughout is absolutely amazing. he was so talented and is one of my favorite actors to have ever existed. i’m so glad you enjoyed this movie!!
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Sadly, I strongly suspect that Jack DID get killed in a hate crime the way Ennis pictured - it's just that Lureen's family is very rich and very well-known, which means they would NEVER publicly admit how Jack was killed (because then they'd have to admit WHY he was killed). I think the tire-explosion story is designed to save face and protect their reputation, and Ennis knows this.
🤠 I totally agree. I've never really questioned that part of the story. It's just so obvious to me that Lee had that in mind when the film was shot and edited, so her questioning it sort of threw me for a loop. However, I can understand how some viewers might see it that way today since there is less of a stigma about it than when I grew up in the 60's and 70's. For those of us from that time period, we know without a doubt he died from a hate crime and the phone conversation was a shameful cover story.
100%. Whats scary is it was not that long ago that Matt Shephard died very similarly to Jack- and that was in the 90’s.
I feel after leaving through that time you totally get Anne is making it up.
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100%! She was telling the version she was supposed to. Even if there were murmurs in the community, that is their story.
I think maybe younger people don’t realize the stigma that went with being gay in those days. It was not nearly as common to see homosexuality out in public and I imagine very tough to live outwardly as gay.
Yeah the way she says it too like it’s a thing she’s rehearsed makes it come off as either a story they made up or that she just didn’t care at all
Anne's cold delivery of what happened to Jack always made me think she knew Jack was engaging in sexual acts with a man and to save face she made up that story. She didn't seem to be crying cuz he was dead but crying because of what she knew and how she feels she has to lie about it.
Yeah, that performance left me thinking long afterwards.
For sure. It might not have been bigots that killed him, but pursuing rough trade in Mexico, but, either way, Ennis could sense that she wasn't giving him the real story.
Totally, Ennis knew it was a cover story and was picturing what he suspected/really happened to him.
I think he told her in the end somehow. Maybe he left a letter to be found or something.
I think she knew Jack was gay for a while and was OK with it. There are tiny moments in the film (glances, looks, unspoken conversation, etc.) that hint at this. The most obvious example is her father making fun of Jack's lack of manliness at Thanksgiving & her sticking up for him. Also she's a very smart woman, and Jack probably wasn't so covert with all his "trips". She's crying because she lost her husband, the father of her child, and very likely her best friend. Furthermore, she lost him in a way that she can't even speak truthfully about. Not only does it shame her, but it shames Jack posthumously as being gay was clearly an extremely negative thing in that time. Her whimper when Ennis mentions that Brokeback was their spot is her realizing that he was the love of Jack's life, the one who shared his favorite place/memories, and I doubt she wanted to tell him what really happened as it would only traumatize Ennis even more. Better to think the love of your life died in an accident than be brutally murdered. That's just my take, but who knows
I remember watching this with my roommate when I was just out of college. Imagine 2 kids in their early-mid twenties watching this, wiping away tears and sniffling. Then my girlfriend walks in the front door right in the middle of an aggressive makeout scene and is like "WTF are you two watching??" I had to reassure her that I wasn't having a secret love affair with my roommate. lol
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I love when movies do the “show me, don’t tell me” style of story telling and so many scenes did it so well here. Non verbal acting unfortunately is something I think a lot of people miss.
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Jack 100% died to a hate crime in this movie. Ledger should've won an Oscar for this, but at least he got one from playing the Joker.
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I can't believe this movie lost to the controversial crime drama CRASH.
Agreed, IMHO Crash was horrible
Have you seen Crash? Both were amazing movies. There’s always a winner, and there’s always a loser.
@Scott Thompson crash wasn't horrible just cringy asf.
"Controversial" is giving Crash a lot more credit than it really deserves.
I remember all the hoopla surrounding the Oscars that year. I decided to watch all the Best Picture nominees and decide for myself. In the end, I found myself agreeing with the Academy’s decisions. Brokeback Mountain absolutely deserved every award it won, and so did Crash.
Oh my god woman you are made of stone. I bawl my eyes out every time I see this film. I've always believed they were protraying how Jake actually met his end, rather than the story Anne told Ennis. This was filmed in southwestern Alberta, Canada (my province).
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Off the chart writing, acting, direction and photography... Always a pleasure when we see all those come together which sadly seems rarer each year since this movie was released.
Grew up in Texas and when this movie takes place, it really was like that. I grew up in a rural town and a young man was killed in the 70’s when he came out as gay. He was killed on the high school practice baseball field. My cousins uncle killed himself after coming out around 1980, he hid it for so long and couldn’t live with himself anymore, knowing how much he was hated by our whole town. I wasn’t born til 1993 and things have changed so much but the older generation here still has a lot of hate. The younger ones are more open minded!
I know what you mean. My brother came out as bisexual nearly 20 years ago except that not only did it take our conservative father a few years to accept it, but my brother had to keep it hidden from our grandfather while he was alive.
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one thing i wish was added as a quick flashback in the film that the short story mentions is that, ennis’ brother used to bully him and beat him up when he was younger. one day ennis goes to his father and tells him about it and his father’s advice is to use violence back so he stops bullying ennis. ennis eventually does fight back and the bullying from his brother ends after that. i think that bit could’ve added more context as to why ennis reverts to physical violence/confrontation rather than opening up or conversing more. he uses it as an outlet to get things out/expressing his own emotions in an unhealthy way.
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I got through the movie fine, fully invested, but when the music started playing in the final moments, I suddenly just started crying my eyes out.
Ugh, this movie absolutely kills me. It's so good, so beautiful, and the ending is so sad. One thing I love is when Ennis finds the shirts in the back of the closet Jacks's shirt is over Ennis's, but when Ennis has them in his closet, his shirt is over Jack's.
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I think Jack’s wife probably knew it at least suspected about his true nature for awhile and while probably morally disagreed with it stuck around not only to save embarrassment but also cause he was a good husband and father. I personally believe that he did die from a hate crime. Probably got caught propositioning some guy and those men tracked him down and then killed him. His wife lies probably to protect herself as well as her son from the scrutiny of the community. But she probably realizes when Ennis calls that this is his lover and that’s why she makes sure to tell him about how Brokeback Mountain was important to him. Because she knows he needs to hear that without revealing too much.
I went to the theater by myself to see this after reading Annie Proulx's short story (I also loved her book The Shipping News). Smuggled in a smidge of wine and cried like a baby at the end.
As did I
I did the same thing, during a matinee.
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I want to call out the brilliant score. It’s so simple, sparse, but it comes in just when it needs to and breaks your heart. When I hear it now, wherever I am, I’m back in this haunting place of a movie.
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I think what happened to Jack is purposely ambiguous. There are a lot of theories but nothing has been officially clarified and I think that's how Ang Lee wanted it to be. Because Ennis didn't really know what happened, only what he was told... he will have to live with that lingering question of whether the story he was told was the truth, or not. We the viewers are also left to wonder.... and so we see the events from his eyes, we're also left with the lingering question that we'll probably never get a real answer to. It makes us connect with his character even deeper, because we can fully understand it.
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I tend to be drawn to dialogue, so when I first saw this movie the long silences threw me at first. But by the time they were coming down off the mountain I realized I was imagining internal dialogue for them and it involved me emotionally in their characters so effectively! This movie made me weep a number of times, and the switching of the shirts always seemed as though Jack was holding Innis in his heart, and at the end, Innis is holding Jack in his heart. Also, I think that Jack's death might have been as tragic and banal as his wife described, but Innis' fear was always that something awful would happen to Jack, so I think his fear is the flash we saw. He may always wonder, given the circumstances of Jack's death, if something happened on that isolated road that only he can imagine.
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Saw this by myself in a small theater in Chealse NYC and I was a sobbing mess at the end. Strangers had to ask me if I was ok lol.
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Heath Ledgers performance here deserved an oscar, i remember watching this when it came out and thinking how much his acting reminded me of James Dean in Rebel Without A Cause of course another great actor we lost too soon, i am not sure whether Heath used his mannerisms as his guide, ironically James Dean died exactly 50 years before this movie came out
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Heath was such a talented actor. When I think of 10 Things I Hate About You, Brokeback Mountain, and then, Dark Night, I realize what range he had. For my money, he's up there with the greats as far as talent.
I saw this movie at the theater, in the West Village NYC of all places, and the problem is that at the time the 'giggle factor' the movie created in the culture really down played how serious and how great of a drama this movie is. It was the butt of jokes constantly in late night TV, and sketch comedies went crazy with this movie, as well as the Scary Movie franchise doing its thing. I think Heath was robbed of an Oscar because of the cultural zeitgeist and I'm sure Heath suspected as much. Maybe that why Heath didn't let the Oscars Lampoon the film, which they would have done to their hearts content at the expense of the film and everyone involved, just for a cheap laugh.
When this movie came out, all the homophobic dudes my age made it the punchline of many jokes. It's really sad, because this is a really beautiful film. The cast was just perfect. Some of the shots in the mountains are breathtaking, and it's a really masterfully acted love story.
Heath spoke volumes with his expression and body language.
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I love so many things about this movie but the score really stands out for me.
I've always pronounced Teton 'tee-tawn'. Also. The flashback of the guy being beaten to death is what actually happened to Jack. He was killed for being gay much like Matthew Shepherd (also in Wyoming) look it up if you don't remember, which I think you're too young to.
'Tee-tawn' is definitely the right way to say it.
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I got the impression that the beating is how he died, except that at that time people wouldn't talk about that sort of thing, just like they wouldn't talk about suicide so they would have made up a different story to explain the death.
Everyone's upset it didn't win best picture. Kudos to Ang Lee for doing this film knowing it was for a western audience with gay stigmatisim ejected into most areas of our country. Brave film.
Edit, her asking him to get in touch with his parents is acknowledgment that her Dad killed him for that outburst at Thanksgiving, is how I interpret it. She was married to him for years she would have known how to contact.
That interpretation never even occurred to me. That's pretty disturbing.
@@GrainneMhaol this is my first rewatch, but as an older person from the last time... I think that's what's happening
I definitely thought that maybe she had him killed on first watch - it was her checking her cuticles while casually telling the story (false) story of his death. She had to know that’s not really how he died.
I think it's more likely Jack just got careless. If her dad knew he was gay, he would have gotten rid of him years ago. She also seemed to like Jack despite their lack of closeness and probably suspected what he was for a long time.
Jack was beaten to death while cruising.
I see similar themes in this movie and in Ang Lee’s previous film, “Hulk”. Both films focus on a couple of people who are in love but due to situations outside their control can never end up together.
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Friendly reminder that THIS was the source material:
Jack took the stairs two and two. They seized each other by the shoulders, hugged mightily, squeezing the breath out of each other, saying, son of a bitch, son of a bitch, then, and easily as the right key turns the lock tumblers, their mouths came together, and hard, Jack's big teeth bringing blood, his hat falling to the floor, stub ble rasping, wet saliva welling, and the door opening and Alma looking out for a few seconds at Ennis's straining shoulders and shutting the door again and still they clinched, pressing chest and groin and thigh and leg together, treading on each other's toes until they pulled apart to breathe and Ennis, not big on endearments, said what he said to his horses and daughters, little darlin.
it’s a great movie, but it’s so soul-crushing in the end
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4 minutes in and I already clicked the like button, just for your observations of the two shot. I find your channel very educational.
When you said Heath played older really well.. He never got to grow old 😭 And when his daugther is getting married.. he won't be there when/if Matilda gets married. Just breaks my heart. I adored Heath when I was a teenager, and was heartbroken when he died. I can still remember the day as if it was yesterday.
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I can't believe Heath was co-stars with siblings in two different films. Brokeback Mountain and Dark Knight. I still can't believe DARK KNIGHT was the last film and it's amazing movie of all Batman movies.
I haven't seen this movie in years. Jake Gyllenhaal is a great actor and the late heath ledger was also a great actor. Welcome to 2023 shanelle hope you and your family and friends had a great Christmas and new year
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Heath Ledger was asked to present at the Oscars with Jake with a parody of this movie, and he, no joke, said, "Hell no!"
People tried to be like, "Its just a joke." and he said, "Not to me."
We didn't just lose the Joker tied for first with Mark Hamill for best, we lost an ally that understood the assignment from day fucking one. 💔
I’ve never seen the actual movie, but just watching this commentary alone made me emotional (and I don’t cry at movies)
I watched this movie once. This reaction is the most I have seen of its since. It hurts to much.
I know hat color plays a big part as well. I forget the detailed significance but it’s def worth googling
Black hat / white hat. Early western's bad guys wore black hat. It absorbed the light in black and white film. Villains face was in shadows. While heroes wore white hat, as it also happened reflect light, making heroes face more detailed and well light. In film heroes face popped out while villains face was in shadows. In colored films, it started losing meaning but the terms left. Black hats are evil and white hats are good guys. Like in hackerworld.
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Thanks, Shanelle! 🌄 My ex-husband (still a dear friend) and I were living near Mobile, Alabama when this premiered in cinemas... and we had to drive (340ish miles) to Atlanta, Georgia to see it. Well-worth it. #ShanelleRiccio #AngLee #BrokebackMountain
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Brilliant movie. Saw it in the theater when it came out. It should have won Best Picture.
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it's a shame this didn't win best picture
if you notice the shirts at the end its like hes holding him that was heaths idea
The movie poster was actually modeled after the Titanic one, to show that they're star crossed lovers.
The ending always gets me. I tear up every time. This is a beautiful story. I love the musical themes throughout this film.
A couple of things that people may have said in the comments.
Jack was murdered. Some people have a theory the father in law was behind it.
They filmed the Anne and Heath telephone scene where she knew why he was murdered and one where she didn't know the reason he was murdered. Then edited both in.
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Cool, a sunday release! Great way to start the week! 😃This is one I DIDN'T see, but it's on my bucket list.
Good thing times have changed,
Love, Matthew Shepard
San Francisco has always been gay friendly.
Love, Harvey Milk
Stonewall changed everything.....in a.two.block radius.
In the short story, Ennis definitely got married.
Lets hear it for Ennis going thru more unemployment to go to his daughter's wedding.
Heath Ledger was robbed of an Oscar for this he completely disappears in the role Heath Ledger is gone only Ennis remains
Definitely read the eponymous short story by Annie Proulx that the film is based on. It’s even better. The writing is extremely focused and tight, with a unique narrative style perfectly suited to Ennis’ psychology. Cannot more highly recommend.
1:44 - After listening to all episodes of the Star Vehicle podcast I feel I should clarify this to you: Wyoming is ALSO NOT the midwest.
23:23 - I agree with that sentiment. That's something that should be done so much more often! Still too many movies use oral exposition when it's capable of so much more.
I’m crying just watching these short clips. Unrequited love (or damn near it) is the most painful emotion. (I would know) This film wrecks me completely.
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That's what Ennis thinks happened to Jack due to Ennis' life experiences. But you never now for sure, so it might have happened just like Jack's wife said.
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Jack was already cruising in dangerous areas, he was beaten to death
Hopper from Stranger Things was trying to get Jake up there to the cabin with him. Didn’t realize it til a rewatch a few years ago. 😮
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This is such a fantastic movie. I went to see this in the theater when it came out, and while it hit hard, I was too young to really get some of the underlying meaning to the story. Now, I bawl every time I watch it. It's such a poignant story, and a rather timeless one at that. I'm really glad you decided to watch this. It's easily one of the late, great Heath Ledger's best roles. ❤
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I haven’t seen this in years. I forgot how many future stars were in it.
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Shanelle I’m glad you enjoyed this movie! It’s one of my favorites :) if you’re looking to react to any movies like this I’d suggest my own private Idaho with Keanu reeves & river Phoenix. Another amazing but sad movie
This is a beautiful movie. The year this movie came out, I went to a Halloween party at a gay bar - there were soooo many cowboys there that year 😆
Notice in the motel scene, Jack is Behind (ahem) Innis.
Make of that what you will but I don't think it was left to chance.
Has anyone ever told you that you bear a good resemblance to Jackie Kennedy?
i could only watch this movie once. i loved it, and the acting is brilliant and it's just beautiful. if you haven't seen Love and Other Drugs, with Anne and Jake, it's a good one to see them together again. and another Heath movie you'd probably like is A Knight's Tale.
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Was Anna Faris's husband Hopper from Stranger Things??
It's about whats not being said - Loved your quote.
I believe Michelle Williams and Heath Ledger met and fell in love during this movie.
My favorite hilarious takedown of the homophobic reaction to this movie (such as it was) was done by the Tennessee comedy team Red State Update:
DUNLAP: "But isn't Brokeback Mountain that gay movie?"
JACKIE: "Well, there was a little bit of that in there, but it's hard to mess up a good Western."
ruclips.net/video/aEooduW4eWM/видео.html
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The score and the cinematography are sublime.
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Sorry, late to the IDEA that Jack's death was a hate crime--HOW AWFUL
Lady you were way to EXCITED 🔥🔥🔥
This is a beautifully told Tragedy. Those 2 were Doomed from the start,
While Jack was the eternal optimist, Ennis saw the cliff coming, and in the end he greatly laments letting Jack go off it alone!
I saw this once and all I remember mostly is how good Michelle Williams was in this movie, the acting was top notch from everyone.
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Oh man, this movie really hits directly to the feelings... Great reaction by the way; saludos from Costa Rica. Pura vida 🤘
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I just finished watching this movie for the first time. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
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jack was prowling for dudes to hook up with and got caught by the wrong people. that's the way i took it. especialkly after they make it clear that jack craved men much more then ennis did.
“Jack i swear.”
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Just watched this recently and then The Station Agent, because I was wanting to see a little bit of Michelle Williams. Then I found out that she currently has a major role in a film that's in theaters right now.
12:00 - Yeah, I can see why. And with that lighting and all. I love 'em too.
This film just gets stronger with time and paraphrasing Bukowski, I just keep gettin' softer and softer, kid.
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Ok, I need to lighten the mood with a dumb joke from CinemaSins: between this film and The Dark Knight, Heath Ledger was Gyllenhalasexual. Yeah. I’ll see myself out.
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During the scene where Ennis gets the postcard, you jokingly made the comment on Patreon "We did more than cowboy." Soooo . . . reverse cowboy?
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he switched the shirts around 😭😭😭💔
I didn't really like Ennis's character because I felt like he emotionally abused his wife and Jack. I understand he was under a lot of pressure to keep his relationship secret but he could have been nicer to both of them. It just left a bad flavor in my mouth. I was hoping for a more loving relationship between the two men.
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This story is so heart breaking
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We drink coffee ! Sweet tea is too sweet for me.
We do like sweet n low if it’s not true sweet tea
Crazy! I watched this movie the other day like 2 days ago seriously! I like 1:00 a.m. I started it made it to when they left the mountain and then I went to bed woke up and then finished it. Seen it a bunch of times such a beautiful movie. And the soundtrack is incredible
Love your reactions! - if you haven’t seen it already I’m sure you’d LOVE the movie Far From Heaven. It’s beautiful and heartbreaking as well.
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Well, as I stated in my 1st comment: never watched this one, but have heard about it. I'll check it out this weekend. From this extended synopsis of a video, the only thing that seems wrong to me was to rush the beginning of their relationship. But I'll withhold my judgement till I watch it in full. Welp, that was fun. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and new year, see you next week (hopefully)!😊
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I have a friend who was in the bar band in the pub scene. For a while one of his other friends as a joke hacked IMDB to make him the second billed actor. LOL. It’s been fixed.
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Heartbreaking movie (and reaction). This reminds me of James Dean and Giant, his third and last movie. We get to see James Dean turn into the old man he never got to be. Same thing here, with Ledger. This is THE Heath Ledger performance, holy smokes. And everyone else in the movie, too, definitely Jake, Anne, Michelle, Randy Quaid, Linda Cardenelli.... One of the few movies I ever saw in the theatre, going in blind! I asked my date what she wanted to see and she picked this. I had no idea going in what it was about. Was blown away. I was shocked to see that the gay community has mixed feelings about the film. It was DEFINITELY groundbreaking, no question about it. I still think it's one of the most moving films I've ever seen, and definitely one of the most moving love stories I've ever seen. THANKS, SHANELLE!!!!! (PS: Keeping the great Peter Bogdonavich film "Paper Moon" on your radar; a movie that was practically made for Shanelle Riccio! If I had the money, I would sponsor a reaction to it!!!! One day! "Paper Moon", it'll be one of your faves EVER!
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they're married with children and you want them to continue their relationship? At some point its not about them, their kids and wives are more important than their love affair.
it's not good for anyone, let alone their children and wife if they continue a relationship that is clearly one sided. It's hard, but it's the best for everyone. Being in a relationship that you don't want to be in won't do good for anyone involved.
Not condoning cheating either, you just have to understand the time period too. Jack and Ennis weren't the only victims of the times, but, by extension, their wives were too. Nothing is ever black and white in these movies. There are always moral grey grounds.
3:26 - It may well be, but there are TONS of places like that all over the american west so they had options. Guess we'll see in the trivia section.
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My shock when I found out it was a homosexual love movie instead of a cowboy adventure. But I’m glad I stayed watching it cause it got GOOOOD
Goddamn this movie broke my heart
12:12 - Well I lived in N.M. (New Mexico) and at least there they do. I'm guessing Texas is the same. Although now that you mention it in the american soutwest they brew ice tea in the sun, so that's popular too.
14:40 - Oh cut it out with the looks you, let 'em be happy! 🤣
Jack was beaten to death while out cruising. I know love is love, but this movie is about two guys who f----ed up their lives, cheated on their wives. One ends up dead, the other alone forever. ....BTW, I watched the Oscars live, the year Brokeback was up for Best Picture. Jack Nicholson opened the envelope to announce the winner, and looked as stunned as everyone else...."Crash", a garbage movie, won. Everybody knew Brokeback was 100x better, but......Hollywood wasn't ready; can you believe it?
9:17 - Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the time the other contestants lasted, and there may be a lower limit.