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... Sawing the ghouls encounter, i now thinking, that it would be possible to carry a corpse to them in the Moonrise tower. The highest problem right now would be the climbing part, but i doesn't know if there is a way (with Reduce and throwing it to the top, maybe?) to help with that...
A sad fact about Quil, Alfiras failsave. She tells you, how she longs to find true love. And if you reach act 3 and killing Sarevok during the Bhaal quest, you find a dead guard in one of the cells down there, who has an unsent letter with him, where he confesses his love to her. That broke my heart.
Even tho this isnt a HUGE secret, I think it's worth noting that if you play as Astarion, instead of dreaming about the dream guardian the first time, he dreams about Cazador, letting you see him long before act 3.
Henk and Honk could have been such an amazing joke. Imagine if you found that bar and found they sell some interesting drinks that gave you buffs. You see a dialogue option for "do you sell anything else?" He grunts and says his brother does, he'll go and get him. He walks into the back room and seconds later the exact same NPC walks back out but his name is now Honk and he has the same dialogue but a different shop inventory.
Holy shit, an actual 'yoU dIdNT KnOw!!!!' video that actually talks about shit people most likely don't know. Your videos are actually worth watching. Got my sub.
Other than the dude booall in the underdark i missed like all these encounters because you have to do certain things usually killing someone which i didnt do. But yeah interesting that larien thought of these situations!
@@kevwox there are bugs that are 6 months old I read in forums where everyone reported the issue to devs and yet here I am still experiencing the same bugs. Devs on a slow roll.
You say that Henk is the laziest fail safe but I disagree. Henk says "Jableeda" while Honk clearly says "Jablooda". A very significant difference between the two characters.
I heard them talking down there after Ketheric Part 1. I was in Slayer form... so I figured dad demanded murder and pounced on them. 😂 Then I was left very confused about how to get back up. But hey. In Bhaal's name, etc.
I also found them in my 1st run but it was because I was so lost in Act 2 that I got them by accident and I never saw them again in other runs because I didn't know how I got to them! In fact, in every run I find a new thing, so much that at the end of Act 1 and 2 I do a manual saves named "bye bye Act 1" and "bye bye Act 2", like that if I want to redo Act 2 or 3 without begining a new run with an old tav can do it. I also have a save for the crèche!
Larian updated the Durge play through. If you save Alfira (by knocking her out with non-lethal blow), then the Dragonborn npc will show up and will be killed. After killing the Dragonborn, Alfira will actually leave you a note thanking you for protecting her and resisting your murderous urge. However, she says she will avoid the durge at all costs due to his violent nature.
@@PaiNtRuTube Yeah I've tried to do this little trick on multiple durges now and it doesn't work. I knock her out up at her little songwriting spot, immediately long rest, and she comes to camp anyway. Super frustrating.
Fun fact with BOOOAL: if you’re a bard, you can turn the Kuo’toa against him by loudly proclaiming that you’re the real deity and he is a fake. This will turn BOOOAL into a regular Redcap. If you keep it up, the Kuo’toa will assist you in killing him, then worship you instead.
So these are some of those encounters that Sven said only .001% of players would ever see? I just LOVE that these are options and that Larian dreamt these up, bravo.
I think the rarest scene I've seen was while playing as dark urge if you can speak to animals there's a single cat in moonrise towers that when spoken too will bring a memory back while screaming at you for the things you did to it and when you finish speaking to it you realize it's a corpse.
Having a "back up" character that is just the twin of your current one with a slight change to the name is a meme in dnd. I would believe that Honk is a nod to that
Thanks for the shout-out! Glad to have contributed to the video :) BTW, it's possible for your party members to turn into zombies too. When I was testing "what if" scenarios in the game and discovered the zombie Minthara and zombie Dror Ragzlin encounter Balthazar says something about recycling you into zombies so I wondered if he was being literal, and HE IS! You start the fight in pods and enemies will light the ritual candles in the room. Once the candles are lit you will start taking damage every turn you're still in a pod. If a character dies while in a pod, he will become a zombie. Sadly, I can't remember whether the transformation is permanent. It's possible that once you kill the zombies you can resurrect them as normal companions again, but my memory is a bit foggy on that. I would imagine that it's not permanent because I DO remember that my (tiefling) main character got turned into a zombie and that wasn't a game over. The zombie's name was simply "Tiefling" and he wore my character's face as a hat on his head. Maybe you can add your zombie self as a character most people won't encounter in a future video :p
Don't know if it's widely known but if you cast speak with dead on Gortasch after killing him you can have a chat with Bane that at least in my games is never properly voiced.
That's a leftover from a more involved Bane questline that Larian cut. That dialogue isnt voiced, because it technically isnt supposed to be in the finished game.
there is a failsafe fight in Old Garlow’s place if you never defeat the hag in act 1. Since Auntie Ethel has no reason to move from her tea house a group of bandits are using the hag survivor’s house to cover up a murder/robbery. No real reason to seek it out since the hag hair is very powerful but it’s cool that they included another encounter just in case. cool video, I didn’t know about most of these
i don't remember which house that is but in my first playthrough i killed ethel in the grove since i thought i was being a funny little metagamer and didn't know about the hair 😂😂
Is that where you find Ethel?? I've forgotten to fight her every time. 😂 I wondered who those bandits were, I figured I'd leave them to their own devices.
OOOOOOH. Yeah in my first playthrough I never went to the sunlit wetlands and I also didn't explore the tiefling area of the grove very in depth so I completely missed out on Ethel. When I got to act three I saw the bandits and that they were enemies and just went nope, not my problem lol. I really just wanted nothing to do with that hag
There is a fail-safe tiefling in act 1 that is super rare. Apparently, if you have 1 member at the Grove when you have killed all three goblin leaders, your other character gets notified by a tiefling npc that the leaders have been slaughtered. If certain tiefling npcs have been slain before this, there is a very special Tiefling that spawns to do this. He isn't mentioned anywhere else in game, nor does appear anywhere else.
The kobolds and treasure in the cemetery are actually linked to a note which you find on the body of the former owner of scratch in act 1. It mentioned being able to pay off some debts if you were to dig at a grave with a certain name on it.
There are loads of failsafe characters. One of the hobbies of players during the beta appears to be killing NPCs that are summoned in cutscenes. There are fail safes to fail safes even. Because the player base appears to have taken the idea of fail safe NPCs as a personal challenge.
Fun Fact about Quil : In Act 3 when you reach Sarevok's tribunal, in one of the prisons there is a headless corpse carrying a letter that mentions quil I was absolutely baffled when I read it lol.
Found BHOOAL on my first play through and was going there every time ever since. The rest mostly were new to me. Also you don’t need to kill Alfira, the Dragonborn bard will appear if you just knock her out before long rest and this way you save Alfira. And you can find the letter to this Dragonborn bard from admirer in Bhaal Tribunal dungeon which I thought was romantically tragic.
Just to add onto this, Alfira actually makes a specific note of this line of actions if she survives to end game. During the epilogue, she'll send the Dark Urge a letter letting them know that she could see the murderous intent in their eyes but managed to hold themselves back. She (wisely) is choosing to not disclose where she is but was thankful for them managing to exercise restraint against her.
Zombie Minthara and Dror Ragzlin is such an obscure encounter. You have to side with Tieflings in Act 1, turn bad in Act 2, and because you let Balthazar take the Nightsong, that also causes Shadowheart to permanently leave your party. The narrative "cost" of reaching the Zombie Minthara and Dror encounter is so heavy, it's no wonder few people ever find it.
I found it blind on my first playthrough. I don't think it was that rare, at least if you play blind and don't reload saves. I did play as an ambitious prideful character. I helped the grove because the absolute were trying to kill me, then let the necromancer take the nightsong because i wanted to be welcomed at the towers to get close to thorm to kill him without storming the enemy. I had to capture Isobel and a buncha people died, but they were did try to kill me when i first got there, so they can rot. The only one I felt sad for was Dammon, who helped my friend... Aniway, all this to say, I think its pretty limiting to only see "good" paths or "bad" paths in this game, its much more fun to look at every choice through your character's eyes
There is an entirely unique character for the tieflings in act 1 when all possible failsafe characters have been killed. A stand in for Zevlor when his advisor and the teacher are both dead.
The final failsafe for Zevlor is Cerys. She normally appears in act II, so she's not entirely unique, but the double failsafe is the only way to meet her in act I
If you decide to ally with the grove and have the goblins attack, but everyone in the grove (ie all the NPC Tieflings) dies, then an entire new group of Tieflings will show up for the Tiefling party instead. I watched a “what if I do XYZ” video where they were just playing around with just how many failsafes (that only .01% of people will see) that there are, but this person managed to find something which didn’t have a failsafe if you kill the other failsafe, so they let Larian know and Larian put in a failsafe-failsafe 😂
I knew about the Golden Minotaur because I tried pickpocketing the ritual supplies and failed which (unlike many other encounters) immediately started a battle rather than the usual reprimanding. I also knew about the Thay Shadows, but what shocked me the most is that I thought I dug up every hole in the cemetary and have somehow still missed Bugthimble. I have, however, encountered a girl there that's trying to revive her mother and will spawn a bunch of zombies if you tell her how to do necromancy (which I did.)
I pickpocketed her on my Honor Mode playthrough, which thankfully succeeded. I had the other three party members far, far away when I did it because I had no idea what she would be like in battle. Looks like I took the right precautions!
@@lesfrisbeesshe was a tough fight on explorer difficulty when I was assisting my friend with completing Act 3. But we did this immediately after killing Raphael so our casters were out of spells and we were all half health lmfao. My greedy ass rogue was like “surely stealing from display cases is easier in explorer mode”
@@lesfrisbees That is when I found out about the minotaur was my first honor playthrough that I got that far, luckly I was already level 12 by then and was absolutely blastin with my sorlock main character so after some initial surprise I was able to clean up the enemies and her out so that I could use her as a vendor after going to kill Raphael. But it definitely at first made me worry I had possibly just wiped my party with the damage they did to Astarion who had all of my gold. I was like "oh no... that thing just one shot Astarion with like 40k damage..." then I realized the spells they cast do damage based on the gold in your inventory so I just dropped all my gold on the floor and absolutely destroyed them.
Theres a djinn in a bottle under i beleive sorcerers sundries if u rub the bottle youll get sucked in and he will be put out you can interact with him inside and outside the bottle i believe
Kudos, unlike most 'top 10 things you missed' videos which always have super obvious info in them, this actually has mostly new info that I've never seen even after like 8 playthroughs
Glad to hear it! I tried to find stuff that isn't super well known or things that took me like 500+ hours to notice. Still can never be sure if it' just me missing it lol
WOW. That's how good this game is. I have almost 300 hours between 4 full playthroughs and in a video that shows 10 encounters you may have missed, I missed ALL OF THEM.
I saw the gargoyles my first run because I liked exploring anywhere I could, but I avoided them since I thought they would aggro on sight. I talked to them my second playthrough out of surprise that they weren’t immediately hostile. The Necromancy of Thay, however, I saw because I was playing my oath of ancients paladin and thought he would disapprove of anything relating to undead. It was a surprise when the shadows appeared lol
Damn that makes so much sense now, every playthrough I've done always wondered if there was meant to be some sort of bigger boss fight in that room. Everytime I go there its just the zombies and dead shepard in that big room.
Ive got 922 Hours in this game, gone through several solo and multiplayer playthroughs and have missed a few of these encounters! I feel like with each playthrough theres something new I learn about or encounter! Phenomenal work from Larian
7:54 for anyone that wonders if you can save alfira from her grisly fate, you can also have quil show up at your camp instead if you knock alfira out the day before the camp encounter, while alfira is at the grove simply attack her with non lethal damage turned on to knock her unconscious leaving her with 1 health (don’t use spells or ranged attacks, they are still lethal), after the encounter with quil, you’ll find alfira still alive and well at the grove, although you’ll have to give her a gift or something for her to not be mad at you.
Honk as a failsafe is hilarious also i want to defend the Kurwin's Cauteriser, it's not amazing but it is light, which mean it can be dual wield with another light weapon if you don't have the dual wielding feat, and since the selection of light weapon is pretty slime, a +1 weapon with 1d4 extra fire dmg and the chance of burning the target is actually very good (with the knife of the undermoutain king in the other hand) I mean the sword of life stealing is probably better but c'mon, it's a flaming scimitar, that's so cool
Fair enough for sure. I just never use DW builds I did find it pretty interesting for sure, but in general I just make my melee use 2 handers. Maybe I gotta experiment with that next time
I have nearly 500 hours in the game, and this latest playthrough I've discovered some more new things in Act 3 that I didn't know about that all kinda played out as one thing leading to another: 1. Finally went to find Jaheira's house, and while talking to the rats in her basement, one of them mentioned some Fey stuff was happening at the Blushing Mermaid. So I looked it up and sure enough, Auntie Ethel and Mayrina make a comeback. 2. While looking for the house that begins the quest, I heard an explosion in one of the houses so I went to check it out, and it turns out Araj Oblodra also makes a return. Bonus: 3. You can pledge your allegiance to the cat Goddess Sharress by talking to a cat outside Sorcerous Sundries. I don't think it actually does anything though lol.
Slight correction to the Dark Urge bard NPC, you can also knock out Alfira to make the dragonborn bard spawn. This is the only way to save Alfira during the Dark Urge playthrough if you choose to resist.
I’ve heard you can save Alfira AND Quill as dark urge- if you KO Alfira before the durge long rest, then when quill shows up have another NPC kill your durge, end the day, then revive them the next morning. You’ll get some disappointed dialogue from your Butler 😃
I’m pretty sure most people know by now but to be safe: you can knock out Alfira with a non-lethal attack and she’ll survive. Quill Grootslang dies instead, and Alfira might just be mildly peeved that you KOed her the next day.
my favorite character is ratin sesescor in Act 3. he's the rat in Alexander Rainforest's house (one of the murder victims). he isn't exactly "rare" i guess, becuase he's easy enough to find and i imagine most people do that quest, but he does have a funny dialogue if you use speak with animals! another thing that i don't know how many people do is the moonshae zinfandel collection in nine-finger's office. there's a plaque that says something along the lines of "someone's vintage moonshae zinfandel collection... it looks like quite a few are missing". the bottles can be found around the guildhall! i've found bottles 1461-68, and a bottle of 1475. i don't know if there's more, and i don't think that there's any gameplay function to it, but i thought it was cool. there's also a tarnished ring at the bottom of the guildhall in the watery area at the center. you find it with a perception check. i was looking through the pared game dialogue from patch five, and it looks like there was originally an NPC named "Doozy the Dunce" who was also down there, looking for his ring. I can't find him in my game, so its possible he might still exist, but i can't find him lol. I've found him in two dialog files: the first is him looking for his ring ("Did she have to throw my ring in the muck?"). in the second, its a player interaction with him. the first time you talk to him, he'll tell you he's looking for something, but it's a personal matter. the second time you speak to him, he tells you he's still looking, then admits that he gave a ring to lady ague and she tossed it in the mud. if the player found the ring, they have the option to give it back to him.
One NPC I "spotted" in act 3 was a generic ambience NPC with no real interaction called "Arne Jacobsen". For those who don't know, Arne Jacobsen is a well known Danish designer, and I am as befuddled today as when I first saw him as to why he was put in the game. He died in 1971, so no interaction between him and Larian, maybe Larian has drawn inspiration from him, or maybe Swen has one of his designer chairs which he likes? Maybe there is someone out there who knows why he became an easter egg in BG3. It could also be that he was just generated with the same name as the designer. In any case I personally had a good laugh when I saw him in the game :)
I got the Zombies by glitching the game on my very first run. I started throwing Balthazar's skeleton corpses off the platform, at which point he started a conversation with my Tav, while the Nightsong started a conversation with Shadowheart. The Nightsong convo took priority, and Balthazar disappeared, only to be standing in that same room once i worked my way down into the hive. I doubt that still works as the game has been patched intensely now, but it's funny to hear that it's a very rare thing to encounter.
Idk if it's rare per-say or well known. But in orins bedroom there's a corpse next to her bed which is the default durge body, the white dragonborn with red shadings.
In regards to Necromancy of Thay, you can actually drop and destroy it right after you've read the final part. If you interact with it after reading, it will become soulbound again and can no longer be dropped.
i did know about quill simply because on my first playtrough i triggered the druid killing the tiefling . so i was actually chocked on my second playtrough when i saw alfira in camp, i genuinly tought i would recruit her!
I discovered the ghouls at Moonrise on my first playthrough because I SCOURED that place up and down to properly infiltrate the cult! It was such an interesting interaction and kinda stressful because I only brought one character up there 😂
RE: the moonrise tower prison... I have 400 hours in-game, and after releasing the nightsong thought I'd just pop down into the basement because i'd forgotten to get the ilithid parasite in the pit... Then yeah, I got that encounter. I was flabbergasted; couldn't believe I'd missed it on so many run throughs. Its a fun fight and gives a good chunk of EXP too so I actually do it in every subsequent run. Amazing game to have so much content that it still surprises me after so long.
Finally someone mentioning Henk !! I was amazed too by how little the internet knows about him I'm pretty sure though there's more to him somehow... I can't remember if it's on him or in the basement below his tavern, but there's a note mentioning something about playing some music in the kitchen while the tavern is closed, and there's an NPC conveniently placed to guard the door... He's still suspicious for me, but I couldn't seem to figure out what might trigger anything in my many playthroughs Edit : and the fact the only difference in their lines is "bleed/blood"..... and they go "Ja......a"..... I need to go back there with JAheirA and Karlach maybe. Or as Karlach dating Jaheira ? Damn so many more stuff to try....
This game has so much content that players will never see :O Kind of amazing Pretty sure Henk and Honk would be a reference to VivaLaDirt in regards to laziness haha
I had the "prison full of enemies" in my playthrough. I don't know what I did differently to end up with that scenario, I just happened to do every quest I could before getting to the tower itself. There were also no story characters there, which is weird because I had a quest for checking if the duke was in the prison, but once I got there nothing happened story-wise.
I wonder what the most experience you can get in the game? Fighting the hidden kobolds at the forge in act 3, all the extra goblins, killing all the tieflings and backup tieflings, etc. All the random things that would actually maximize the experience in each act and in the entire game
For the prison portion of number 8, That was the only encounter I had when going down there as my brain was thinking "Moonrise tower will have the important story beat so I'll do it last" freeing the nightsong in the process, then thinking "I will try and sneak around the encounter" so I entered from the bottom of the tower, being met with the death shepherds, which I promptly burnt them all with a wall of fire but I didn't know there were important things to do in the prison otherwise though.
I'm sure someone has mentioned this in the coments, but the Djinn in act 3, the one at the circus, who tav can play a game with, if you pickpocket his ring and then play his game, you get transported to a rainforest looking place and meet some dinosaurs. That was a weird encounter for me in my last play through
You can knock out Alfira when playing as a Good Dark Urge, so Quill will apear in her place. This way, Alfira will be alive in act 2 and 3. Its a good way to see Quill and leave Alfira alive.
It’s a metagamey thing to do, just like the neutral route Minthara method, but better to be able to get that potent robe as Durge than be locked out altogether
@@KervynVarro it is 100% a metagame strategy-- not metagaming in the sense of "do this because it's optimal and the meta relies on it," but meta in the sense that no one knows that minthara even is a companion until they loot her camp clothing/they learn from someone else out of the game; it requires outside knowledge (and there's nothing wrong with this, i do believe minthara's intended to be a second playthrough and beyond type of companion anyway and i like the addition for that purpose.) from a roleplaying standpoint, there's little reason to knock minthara out rather than kill her, if you're choosing to side with the tieflings. the characters wouldn;t even know that she's someone they'd be able to recruit. however-- from a purely gameplay standpoint, especially from the standpoint of someone who replays the game, it definitely makes sense to use this method every time because as repeat players, we are typically trying to see as much of the game as possible
Ive seen another video of it, but some of the tieflings in the grove have rare failsafe characters for if theyre killed and cant appear at your camp to party. Some are replaced by another character, but then killing those are also failsafes for yet ANOTHER new character you cant kill beforehand. Then theres the one tiefling to move you (also in another video I learned of) for if youre in the grove with 1 party member as you kill the last goblin leader, which would normally have the tieflings relocated upon return
With regards to Alfira or Quil Grootslang dying, you can go knock out Alfira before doing the long rest that initiates the cutscene, resulting in Quil's death and Alfira remaining alive. Just be sure to use a stealth character like Astarian to knock her unconscious so you don't risk any negative outcomes with her.
hmm I tried in Honor mode and it didn't seem to work so I assumed they fixed it, but it could be one of those things that only got changed in Honor mode.
@@ProxyGateTactician where did you long rest? In my first durge playthrough, I would knock her out and long rest at the Druids grove immediately after. On a subsequent durge run, I knocked her out, travelled to Waukeen’s rest and the failsafe triggered
@@ProxyGateTactician alfira comes to your camp after you meet her and leave the grove. Do your thing at grove, before leaving knock her out and when outside take a long rest.
@@ProxyGateTactician Knocking out Alfira worked for me in Honor mode. I found out through a different playthrough that jumping down towards Karlach from the Grove causes the Cutscene with Alfira to happen immediatly (unless you recruit Karlach before recruiting Wyll, which case the confrontation between the two happens first). I knocked out Alfira and did the Karlach skip on the same day and after long resting it triggered the scene with Quil in camp.
Larian's solution to player's killing henk, is honestly the most DM thing ever lmao. "Murderhobo? That's fine! I'll just replace henk's planned scenes with ,, uhhh,,, honk!"
I've been hearing from a few die-hard Baldurs Gate 3 fans that there's actually a secret way to keep Astarion alive and in your party after he tries you bite you in the campsite. Somehow I've never found it though.
Side note -> I read that people found that character with Minthara. But I haven't been able to re-produce it. Any luck there? I really should have thrown it into the video though. Forgot about that one and it would have been a perfect fit.
Hers a nother hiden fact u can fined the fish people in EVERY act. Act 1 its in the underdark (u alredy know) act 2 neer the hospital thers a cave entereance ( not the nightsong one) that has a bunch of acid/poisen in it with a acid slime fight of u go in to the pit. Go threw the cave and ull fined the fish. Act 3 u can fined them in balders gate past the foundery where thers people having a funural. U can go past them on to the beach and in to a cave sneek past the meer peopl and ull see some dead fish people and a spetal incounter if u steeal from the treshure.
i think one that people miss a lot is if you do not discover that Astarion is a vampire, when you meet the Gur Hunter Gandrel outside Ethel's House with the right dialog options Astarion can instantly kill him in the cutscene and you get a sweet crossbow and avoid a semi annoying fight.
If you never recruit Astarion and reach Cazador, he will have a zombie Astarion for the sacrifice, which can be (somehow) revived with a revivify scroll after the fight. Sadly, he just becomes a non-aggressive Zombie who can't be added to the party
I got Quil instead of Alfira on both of my Dark Urge runs. First one was because all of the tieflings had been murdered by the druids, and the second one was because I didn't get what was supposed to be Alfira's cutscene until after the tieflings were already safely on the road to Act 2. I was like... okay, I guess I'll never see Alfira then!
If you side with Brithvar in Grymforge against Nere, if he dies in that encounter, another duergar sprints in to talk you through the same after battle dialogue that Brithvar has, even to free the deep gnomes. I've seen him twice in playthroughs. I have considered mudering him to see who is his failsafe.....
That particular Duergar I believe I saw the first time I picked this route lmao. I think it’s the one that caged and killed the Drow. I fucking hate that particular guy but I never start a fight with him in fear of aggroing the camp early
@@kevwox You can stealth kill him after you talk the spiders into leaving and it won't aggro the camp. I go area by area in Grymforge killing the duegar so there's only four or five left for the final fight.
I don’t know how many people have seen this, but in the blighted village in I think the house with the necromancy of thay, (or neighbor house) you go through the book shelves you will find a diary and shadowheart has a cut scene.
My favorite 'hidden' moment is the dark urge butler congratulating me on my depravity and shocked that I destroyed the inn "without even needing encouragement"
The Dragonborn bard is also crucial for a Dark Urge player to get the potent robe, as it can only be gotten through saving the tieflings in act 2, which is a quest given by Alfira. Right before the long rest that happens before Alfira showing up, you must knock her unconscious in Emerald Grove. This will also cause Quill to show up instead of Alfira, allowing you to do the quest in act 2 (if you didnt attack the Emerald Grove in Act 1)
Actually had Zombie Minthara in my first playthrough because I started as Durge and wanted to be an actual true soul but wanted to keep her as well. So in the end I saved her from getting killed, wanted to save her again and noticed that I'd betray the true souls. So I didn't and she became a zombie. x)
In one playthrough as a bard in act 1, i picklocked the doors to the abandoned crypt. I went through it as normal but when i exited it from the top side doors after fighting those adventurers, i got a unique dialog with the gnome and his goons. I scared them away by saying i was an evil spirit whos out to kill them
Regarding Quil, there is actually a sad little letter found in Act 3 (Spoiler): After you kill Sarevok, you can explore the area and find prison cells. In one of the cells you can find a headless corpse with a letter on it. In said letter, the guy writes to Quil, praising her talents as bard and her beautiful scales, wishing to meet up with her (as he has feelings for her). Judging by the fact he has the letter, but no mroe head on him, we can assume he never got to confess to her... So even if she doesn't show up as failsafe character, she is still referenced.
There is an interesting location in the Underdark, nearby the entrance to the BOOAL cave. Up to high rock, which some Drow climbed to find out a quick way from the Underdark to the Surface. If u go there and pass magic or constitution check to find out a fake wall, there will be an entrance up to the secret cave on the surface. And in that cave you can find another secret entrance to somewhere. This entrance has no available options for checks or any interactions with. So its only possible to pass it via glitches. The most interesting part is that behind this door is a whole new location, which is lighted in grey as un-discovered. And this whole cave location has its own uniqie map too
Really?? I'll have to check it out. It's not the hag one right? That sound similar to what you described where you need the hag's mask to pass through the wall in the underdark.
@@ProxyGateTactician the door there looks very similar to the door for hag cave. But it has no interaction options or checks. Tbh, I didn't try one of the hag's mask to open it.
@ProxyGateTactician a buddy and I actually know what this is. It's an entrance to/exit from Ethel's tea house. You need to wear one of the masks to get through it. And do some jumping to get to it.
@@nudistofdespairto my knowledge you can't really go through that part peacefully. And letting her go just has her vanishing away. But there's 4 masks on a table next to the illusion door at the hag's lair entrance that my buddy and I used.
To fight zombie mithara, you dont have to kill/kidnap Isobel. Just let balthazar take Nightsong and sneak your way to Kethric on rooftop. He'll say you made half measures so now absolute will judge you etc.
For the Shadows of Thay - on my first playthrough I was a cleric of Lathander. I had no idea what the book unlocked and couldn't justify why a cleric of Lathander would willingly read that book, so I blew it up with a guiding bolt. I feel pretty cool about myself for having seen that part :)
5:17 there’s a unique dialogue option here for dragonborn players. I can’t fully remember but I believe it was a persuasion check saying something about disapproving their own kin to be doing such a disgraceful thing like graverobbing. He leaves the grave with the loot without a fight.
One thing about the Kobold encounter. In act I the body of previous Scratch owner has a letter to Nine Fingers describing that grave. If you read this before, you can use it as a dialogue option with the kobold to resolve encounter without a fight.
if your a cleric of lolth and you try to take the phalar aluve in the underdark by following the ritual, lolth herself will send you a warning and your tav can feel spiders crawling on theyre back
Pass the rolls that happen in the dialogue to know it's a red cap and then pass the persuasion roll. Edit: The passive rolls that happens during the dialogue.
If Zevlor were to die, there's actually a different tiefling that appears out of nowhere to replace him as a new leader of the tieflings in the Emerald Grove. And not just that, but it's not the only failsafe. There's few more replacements if you keep killing them, as well. Don't remember how many, tho.
As far as I know it's enough to knock Alfira unconscious after meeting her for the first time as Dark Urge in order to both keep her alive and see the Dragonborn fallback character.
I just started playing as dark urge with no hesitation for massacre and damn it really changes the whole storytelling. And yeah, I stopped at the end of act 1 and spoiled to myself what will happen to me in act 2 with that part of your video about zombie Minthara and Dror Ragzlin. Well, better not watch anything about the game before I finally get tired of playing all of different scenarios I have in my head
There are plenty of failsafe Tieflings who can appear if you kill some of the Tieflings before siding with them in act 1, but one specific one (whose name I can't recall) can only appear if you kill all the goblin leaders, while one of your party members is in Druid's Grove. He shows up at the goblin camp to tell you about the tieflings leaving the grove now that it's safe. The purpose of this encounter is solely so that the Tieflings can change positions from their usual locations to their "about to leave the Grove"-spots without you seeing them do it. Also, as the Dark Urge, if you knock out Alfira the day before she is supposed to show up at your camp, kill the dragonborn instead and then Alfira survives until the end of the game, you get a unique letter from her at Withers' party. Knocking out Alfira so that she survives is something I do every single time I play the Dark Urge (I can't commit to being evil), so I discovered this pretty naturally, before realizing how convoluted getting it actually is.
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... Sawing the ghouls encounter, i now thinking, that it would be possible to carry a corpse to them in the Moonrise tower. The highest problem right now would be the climbing part, but i doesn't know if there is a way (with Reduce and throwing it to the top, maybe?) to help with that...
@@Senok13 easiest way would be a cloud giant str elixir from a vendor
A sad fact about Quil, Alfiras failsave. She tells you, how she longs to find true love. And if you reach act 3 and killing Sarevok during the Bhaal quest, you find a dead guard in one of the cells down there, who has an unsent letter with him, where he confesses his love to her. That broke my heart.
My durge is happy to hear that😈
Even tho this isnt a HUGE secret, I think it's worth noting that if you play as Astarion, instead of dreaming about the dream guardian the first time, he dreams about Cazador, letting you see him long before act 3.
So there is no dream guardian for Astarion or do they just appear later?
@@Heigh_Ho appears later
Not sure if this is patched or not but you can, for some reason, trade with him lmao
@@yahia5476 lol. does he have anything interesting for trade?
@@kloklon Nope, he has nothing lol
I love that Henk says "Jableeda" while Honk says "Jablooda"
I just imagine all e's that Henk says become o's when Honk says them
mato, this makos no sonso…
Honk.
@@Luck77332 mate, this makes ne sense
About those Kobolds in the graveyard in act 3: If you play Durge you get the option to burry the Kobold alive.
lmfao
Knowing Durge, it's a wonder he didn't eat the poor thing lol
after breaking its limbs so it cant escape
😲 Wow........just.....wow. That's...something else. 😂🤣
Lovely.
Henk and Honk could have been such an amazing joke. Imagine if you found that bar and found they sell some interesting drinks that gave you buffs. You see a dialogue option for "do you sell anything else?" He grunts and says his brother does, he'll go and get him. He walks into the back room and seconds later the exact same NPC walks back out but his name is now Honk and he has the same dialogue but a different shop inventory.
Reminds me of that episode of avatar where the dude in that lake village switches hats and says he’s the bother.
Holy shit, an actual 'yoU dIdNT KnOw!!!!' video that actually talks about shit people most likely don't know. Your videos are actually worth watching. Got my sub.
I appreciate that this video also wasn’t about abusing mechanics that are just gonna get patched out soon as a dev sees it, as well
Yeah so many of those videos are stuff like: "did you know you can meet sarevok in bg3??"
Got deep nuts
Other than the dude booall in the underdark i missed like all these encounters because you have to do certain things usually killing someone which i didnt do. But yeah interesting that larien thought of these situations!
@@kevwox there are bugs that are 6 months old I read in forums where everyone reported the issue to devs and yet here I am still experiencing the same bugs. Devs on a slow roll.
You say that Henk is the laziest fail safe but I disagree. Henk says "Jableeda" while Honk clearly says "Jablooda". A very significant difference between the two characters.
I actually encountered the gargoyles at Moonrise because Ketheric pushed Shadowhart off the edge of the tower during our first fight.
rofl did they attack you instantly in that scenario?
I too encountered them, though in my case it's because I went murder hobo and didn't know where to go to continue act 2.
@@ProxyGateTactician yes, Shart had to fight them alone. Luckily they were kinda a pushover for level 8 with all her shadow powers
I heard them talking down there after Ketheric Part 1. I was in Slayer form... so I figured dad demanded murder and pounced on them. 😂 Then I was left very confused about how to get back up. But hey. In Bhaal's name, etc.
I also found them in my 1st run but it was because I was so lost in Act 2 that I got them by accident and I never saw them again in other runs because I didn't know how I got to them! In fact, in every run I find a new thing, so much that at the end of Act 1 and 2 I do a manual saves named "bye bye Act 1" and "bye bye Act 2", like that if I want to redo Act 2 or 3 without begining a new run with an old tav can do it. I also have a save for the crèche!
Larian updated the Durge play through. If you save Alfira (by knocking her out with non-lethal blow), then the Dragonborn npc will show up and will be killed.
After killing the Dragonborn, Alfira will actually leave you a note thanking you for protecting her and resisting your murderous urge. However, she says she will avoid the durge at all costs due to his violent nature.
But do you still get the robes?
And *still* rewards you with the cloak in Act 2 :)
F*ck, that feeling when I played good dark urge and didn't do it :(
Should be noted she leaves this note during the epilogue not anytime during act 1 or 2
@@PaiNtRuTube Yeah I've tried to do this little trick on multiple durges now and it doesn't work. I knock her out up at her little songwriting spot, immediately long rest, and she comes to camp anyway. Super frustrating.
Fun fact with BOOOAL: if you’re a bard, you can turn the Kuo’toa against him by loudly proclaiming that you’re the real deity and he is a fake. This will turn BOOOAL into a regular Redcap. If you keep it up, the Kuo’toa will assist you in killing him, then worship you instead.
Based Kuo’toa
not a unic bard interaction. anyone can do that
I did that as a rogue.
I did that my first play through
@enter_feeling6042 did you just try to spell 'unique' as 'unic'??
So these are some of those encounters that Sven said only .001% of players would ever see? I just LOVE that these are options and that Larian dreamt these up, bravo.
The best part is that there is still more out there. There was one item in Divinity 2 which took like 2 years for players to discover it existed
@@ProxyGateTacticianwhat item was that i wanna google it and watch a fee videos
I think the rarest scene I've seen was while playing as dark urge if you can speak to animals there's a single cat in moonrise towers that when spoken too will bring a memory back while screaming at you for the things you did to it and when you finish speaking to it you realize it's a corpse.
oooh, interesting.
@@ProxyGateTactician DOS had a muuuuch smaller player base tho
Having a "back up" character that is just the twin of your current one with a slight change to the name is a meme in dnd. I would believe that Honk is a nod to that
Thanks for the shout-out!
Glad to have contributed to the video :)
BTW, it's possible for your party members to turn into zombies too.
When I was testing "what if" scenarios in the game and discovered the zombie Minthara and zombie Dror Ragzlin encounter Balthazar says something about recycling you into zombies so I wondered if he was being literal, and HE IS! You start the fight in pods and enemies will light the ritual candles in the room. Once the candles are lit you will start taking damage every turn you're still in a pod. If a character dies while in a pod, he will become a zombie.
Sadly, I can't remember whether the transformation is permanent. It's possible that once you kill the zombies you can resurrect them as normal companions again, but my memory is a bit foggy on that. I would imagine that it's not permanent because I DO remember that my (tiefling) main character got turned into a zombie and that wasn't a game over. The zombie's name was simply "Tiefling" and he wore my character's face as a hat on his head.
Maybe you can add your zombie self as a character most people won't encounter in a future video :p
That's awesome thanks for sharing so much cool stuff! Also awesome that you saw this video right after I posted it lol
I believe you can actually feed the Ghouls on Moonrise if you have a corpse in your inventory
Holy shit. Well, that's on the list.
Don't know if it's widely known but if you cast speak with dead on Gortasch after killing him you can have a chat with Bane that at least in my games is never properly voiced.
Huh, wonder why it isnt voiced properly. I never had that issue. Technology is weird
That's a leftover from a more involved Bane questline that Larian cut. That dialogue isnt voiced, because it technically isnt supposed to be in the finished game.
A more involved bane questline? That sounds awesome. Out of the dead three he's the only one you don't really interact with much at all.
yeah bane just does not speak for me
The missing voice is fixed in the new patch. When I realized that Bane was the one talking, it freaked me out actually, wild
there is a failsafe fight in Old Garlow’s place if you never defeat the hag in act 1. Since Auntie Ethel has no reason to move from her tea house a group of bandits are using the hag survivor’s house to cover up a murder/robbery. No real reason to seek it out since the hag hair is very powerful but it’s cool that they included another encounter just in case.
cool video, I didn’t know about most of these
i don't remember which house that is but in my first playthrough i killed ethel in the grove since i thought i was being a funny little metagamer and didn't know about the hair 😂😂
Is that where you find Ethel?? I've forgotten to fight her every time. 😂 I wondered who those bandits were, I figured I'd leave them to their own devices.
OOOOOOH. Yeah in my first playthrough I never went to the sunlit wetlands and I also didn't explore the tiefling area of the grove very in depth so I completely missed out on Ethel. When I got to act three I saw the bandits and that they were enemies and just went nope, not my problem lol. I really just wanted nothing to do with that hag
There is a fail-safe tiefling in act 1 that is super rare. Apparently, if you have 1 member at the Grove when you have killed all three goblin leaders, your other character gets notified by a tiefling npc that the leaders have been slaughtered. If certain tiefling npcs have been slain before this, there is a very special Tiefling that spawns to do this. He isn't mentioned anywhere else in game, nor does appear anywhere else.
it's super rare but it's not a "very special" tiefling.
Zevlor has like 3 spare replacements which you only see if he dies
This is the channel that posted about that lol.
The kobolds and treasure in the cemetery are actually linked to a note which you find on the body of the former owner of scratch in act 1. It mentioned being able to pay off some debts if you were to dig at a grave with a certain name on it.
There are loads of failsafe characters. One of the hobbies of players during the beta appears to be killing NPCs that are summoned in cutscenes. There are fail safes to fail safes even. Because the player base appears to have taken the idea of fail safe NPCs as a personal challenge.
Fun Fact about Quil : In Act 3 when you reach Sarevok's tribunal, in one of the prisons there is a headless corpse carrying a letter that mentions quil I was absolutely baffled when I read it lol.
I love that there is stuff that references something that 99% of people would never know
I think you can also mention Quill to the Bard in the Guild tavern. Not sure if that is Durge or Dragonborn specific.
In addition to the above references I believe when a bard performs you’ll occasionally get some “do you know any Quil pieces?” comments from observers
Not the same Quill i guess, she specificaly said she took on the name of a known person
Found BHOOAL on my first play through and was going there every time ever since. The rest mostly were new to me. Also you don’t need to kill Alfira, the Dragonborn bard will appear if you just knock her out before long rest and this way you save Alfira. And you can find the letter to this Dragonborn bard from admirer in Bhaal Tribunal dungeon which I thought was romantically tragic.
Just to add onto this, Alfira actually makes a specific note of this line of actions if she survives to end game. During the epilogue, she'll send the Dark Urge a letter letting them know that she could see the murderous intent in their eyes but managed to hold themselves back. She (wisely) is choosing to not disclose where she is but was thankful for them managing to exercise restraint against her.
@@kirantJesus. Larian is on a whole 'nother level.
@@kirantthat's fucked up lmao
Yeah this also lets you get the potent robe from Alfira in act 2 so warlocks rejoice
Zombie Minthara and Dror Ragzlin is such an obscure encounter.
You have to side with Tieflings in Act 1, turn bad in Act 2, and because you let Balthazar take the Nightsong, that also causes Shadowheart to permanently leave your party. The narrative "cost" of reaching the Zombie Minthara and Dror encounter is so heavy, it's no wonder few people ever find it.
I found it blind on my first playthrough. I don't think it was that rare, at least if you play blind and don't reload saves.
I did play as an ambitious prideful character.
I helped the grove because the absolute were trying to kill me, then let the necromancer take the nightsong because i wanted to be welcomed at the towers to get close to thorm to kill him without storming the enemy. I had to capture Isobel and a buncha people died, but they were did try to kill me when i first got there, so they can rot. The only one I felt sad for was Dammon, who helped my friend...
Aniway, all this to say, I think its pretty limiting to only see "good" paths or "bad" paths in this game, its much more fun to look at every choice through your character's eyes
There is an entirely unique character for the tieflings in act 1 when all possible failsafe characters have been killed. A stand in for Zevlor when his advisor and the teacher are both dead.
The final failsafe for Zevlor is Cerys. She normally appears in act II, so she's not entirely unique, but the double failsafe is the only way to meet her in act I
The Grove has so many failsafes it's hilarious 😂
@@nothingtoseehere9648 Larion knows about the murderhobo players XD
If you decide to ally with the grove and have the goblins attack, but everyone in the grove (ie all the NPC Tieflings) dies, then an entire new group of Tieflings will show up for the Tiefling party instead.
I watched a “what if I do XYZ” video where they were just playing around with just how many failsafes (that only .01% of people will see) that there are, but this person managed to find something which didn’t have a failsafe if you kill the other failsafe, so they let Larian know and Larian put in a failsafe-failsafe 😂
I knew about the Golden Minotaur because I tried pickpocketing the ritual supplies and failed which (unlike many other encounters) immediately started a battle rather than the usual reprimanding. I also knew about the Thay Shadows, but what shocked me the most is that I thought I dug up every hole in the cemetary and have somehow still missed Bugthimble. I have, however, encountered a girl there that's trying to revive her mother and will spawn a bunch of zombies if you tell her how to do necromancy (which I did.)
I swore I had also. I found it on my like 6th playthrough and was shocked when he popped up. The fight was really neat
I pickpocketed her on my Honor Mode playthrough, which thankfully succeeded. I had the other three party members far, far away when I did it because I had no idea what she would be like in battle. Looks like I took the right precautions!
@@lesfrisbeesshe was a tough fight on explorer difficulty when I was assisting my friend with completing Act 3. But we did this immediately after killing Raphael so our casters were out of spells and we were all half health lmfao. My greedy ass rogue was like “surely stealing from display cases is easier in explorer mode”
@@lesfrisbees That is when I found out about the minotaur was my first honor playthrough that I got that far, luckly I was already level 12 by then and was absolutely blastin with my sorlock main character so after some initial surprise I was able to clean up the enemies and her out so that I could use her as a vendor after going to kill Raphael. But it definitely at first made me worry I had possibly just wiped my party with the damage they did to Astarion who had all of my gold. I was like "oh no... that thing just one shot Astarion with like 40k damage..." then I realized the spells they cast do damage based on the gold in your inventory so I just dropped all my gold on the floor and absolutely destroyed them.
Hahah. I taught her necromancy my first playthrough too. I was a cleric of Vlaakith.
Theres a djinn in a bottle under i beleive sorcerers sundries if u rub the bottle youll get sucked in and he will be put out you can interact with him inside and outside the bottle i believe
Kudos, unlike most 'top 10 things you missed' videos which always have super obvious info in them, this actually has mostly new info that I've never seen even after like 8 playthroughs
Glad to hear it! I tried to find stuff that isn't super well known or things that took me like 500+ hours to notice. Still can never be sure if it' just me missing it lol
Honk is honestly so lazy as to be transcendent. Like. It’s so lazy that it opens the third eye and you see the world anew. I love him.
Dude talk normal
@@myonionsmatter7843 No.
@@myonionsmatter7843 I understood them perfectly. Sounds like a skill issue
@@Zoroasterisk "him" not "them"
@@mctorus "them" being AllergyPuppy, whose gender and pronouns are unknown.
Larian really went and named the backup Githyanki prologue companion "Loser" lmao
WOW. That's how good this game is. I have almost 300 hours between 4 full playthroughs and in a video that shows 10 encounters you may have missed, I missed ALL OF THEM.
I saw the gargoyles my first run because I liked exploring anywhere I could, but I avoided them since I thought they would aggro on sight. I talked to them my second playthrough out of surprise that they weren’t immediately hostile.
The Necromancy of Thay, however, I saw because I was playing my oath of ancients paladin and thought he would disapprove of anything relating to undead. It was a surprise when the shadows appeared lol
Outside moonrise tower theres a cat named steelclaw who will give you some extra backstory if you're playing as the dark urge
yes and then you brutally murder it which made me sad because I like the cats. They all have so much personality...
@@mcpunchins is there no way to not kill it?
@@elenalizabeth theres a line about trying to remember when you saw it before, if you don't pick that I'm pretty sure you're fine
their is a dog as well in ketheric room :( but you cant take him with you
@@julienchevalier6360
Squire, yeah he was a good boy. Shame Ketheric brings him into the fight at the top of the tower though forcing you to kill it.
Damn that makes so much sense now, every playthrough I've done always wondered if there was meant to be some sort of bigger boss fight in that room. Everytime I go there its just the zombies and dead shepard in that big room.
Ive got 922 Hours in this game, gone through several solo and multiplayer playthroughs and have missed a few of these encounters! I feel like with each playthrough theres something new I learn about or encounter! Phenomenal work from Larian
I’m like the same as you 😂
I bet you’ve got some that I never found too
7:54 for anyone that wonders if you can save alfira from her grisly fate, you can also have quil show up at your camp instead if you knock alfira out the day before the camp encounter, while alfira is at the grove simply attack her with non lethal damage turned on to knock her unconscious leaving her with 1 health (don’t use spells or ranged attacks, they are still lethal), after the encounter with quil, you’ll find alfira still alive and well at the grove, although you’ll have to give her a gift or something for her to not be mad at you.
Honk as a failsafe is hilarious
also i want to defend the Kurwin's Cauteriser, it's not amazing but it is light, which mean it can be dual wield with another light weapon if you don't have the dual wielding feat, and since the selection of light weapon is pretty slime, a +1 weapon with 1d4 extra fire dmg and the chance of burning the target is actually very good (with the knife of the undermoutain king in the other hand)
I mean the sword of life stealing is probably better but c'mon, it's a flaming scimitar, that's so cool
Fair enough for sure. I just never use DW builds
I did find it pretty interesting for sure, but in general I just make my melee use 2 handers. Maybe I gotta experiment with that next time
There's that handaxe that does additional damage to burning targets, probably meant to dual wield with that
Scimitars are good for Druids as they don’t have proficiency in a lot of weapons, but can dual wield scimitars (like Jaheira does)
Finally, some love for Honk. Long time coming but much deserved.
I have nearly 500 hours in the game, and this latest playthrough I've discovered some more new things in Act 3 that I didn't know about that all kinda played out as one thing leading to another:
1. Finally went to find Jaheira's house, and while talking to the rats in her basement, one of them mentioned some Fey stuff was happening at the Blushing Mermaid. So I looked it up and sure enough, Auntie Ethel and Mayrina make a comeback.
2. While looking for the house that begins the quest, I heard an explosion in one of the houses so I went to check it out, and it turns out Araj Oblodra also makes a return.
Bonus:
3. You can pledge your allegiance to the cat Goddess Sharress by talking to a cat outside Sorcerous Sundries. I don't think it actually does anything though lol.
This was an extremely good video, I watch alot of bg3 clips and I have never heard anyone speak of most of these, bravo
Slight correction to the Dark Urge bard NPC, you can also knock out Alfira to make the dragonborn bard spawn. This is the only way to save Alfira during the Dark Urge playthrough if you choose to resist.
A bit selfish of a reason but I pretty much knocked her out for the robes. Sure Quil had to die but…
I’ve heard you can save Alfira AND Quill as dark urge- if you KO Alfira before the durge long rest, then when quill shows up have another NPC kill your durge, end the day, then revive them the next morning. You’ll get some disappointed dialogue from your Butler 😃
didnt work for mine, the party just wakes up with both my DUrge and Quill dead the next morning
I love the DOS2 soundtrack in the background.
I’m pretty sure most people know by now but to be safe: you can knock out Alfira with a non-lethal attack and she’ll survive. Quill Grootslang dies instead, and Alfira might just be mildly peeved that you KOed her the next day.
my favorite character is ratin sesescor in Act 3. he's the rat in Alexander Rainforest's house (one of the murder victims). he isn't exactly "rare" i guess, becuase he's easy enough to find and i imagine most people do that quest, but he does have a funny dialogue if you use speak with animals!
another thing that i don't know how many people do is the moonshae zinfandel collection in nine-finger's office. there's a plaque that says something along the lines of "someone's vintage moonshae zinfandel collection... it looks like quite a few are missing". the bottles can be found around the guildhall! i've found bottles 1461-68, and a bottle of 1475. i don't know if there's more, and i don't think that there's any gameplay function to it, but i thought it was cool.
there's also a tarnished ring at the bottom of the guildhall in the watery area at the center. you find it with a perception check. i was looking through the pared game dialogue from patch five, and it looks like there was originally an NPC named "Doozy the Dunce" who was also down there, looking for his ring. I can't find him in my game, so its possible he might still exist, but i can't find him lol. I've found him in two dialog files: the first is him looking for his ring ("Did she have to throw my ring in the muck?"). in the second, its a player interaction with him. the first time you talk to him, he'll tell you he's looking for something, but it's a personal matter. the second time you speak to him, he tells you he's still looking, then admits that he gave a ring to lady ague and she tossed it in the mud. if the player found the ring, they have the option to give it back to him.
One NPC I "spotted" in act 3 was a generic ambience NPC with no real interaction called "Arne Jacobsen". For those who don't know, Arne Jacobsen is a well known Danish designer, and I am as befuddled today as when I first saw him as to why he was put in the game. He died in 1971, so no interaction between him and Larian, maybe Larian has drawn inspiration from him, or maybe Swen has one of his designer chairs which he likes? Maybe there is someone out there who knows why he became an easter egg in BG3. It could also be that he was just generated with the same name as the designer. In any case I personally had a good laugh when I saw him in the game :)
I got the Zombies by glitching the game on my very first run. I started throwing Balthazar's skeleton corpses off the platform, at which point he started a conversation with my Tav, while the Nightsong started a conversation with Shadowheart. The Nightsong convo took priority, and Balthazar disappeared, only to be standing in that same room once i worked my way down into the hive.
I doubt that still works as the game has been patched intensely now, but it's funny to hear that it's a very rare thing to encounter.
Bugthimble's fight plays out exactly like how Into the Breach works! That's so cool.
Idk if it's rare per-say or well known. But in orins bedroom there's a corpse next to her bed which is the default durge body, the white dragonborn with red shadings.
Yep. I get the impression that it’s like DAO and the origins technically “exist” but since they’re not the PC, they were killed off.
@@mlj3347 it was a cool detail to stumble into, I guess Orin won the 1v1! Lol
Good god Larian is insane for adding all this and I love it. I hope they never stop updating this game with fresh new content.
As someone with 500hrs and multiple completions. This brings me great joy and frustation to find things I've never seen!
In regards to Necromancy of Thay, you can actually drop and destroy it right after you've read the final part. If you interact with it after reading, it will become soulbound again and can no longer be dropped.
i did know about quill simply because on my first playtrough i triggered the druid killing the tiefling . so i was actually chocked on my second playtrough when i saw alfira in camp, i genuinly tought i would recruit her!
I discovered the ghouls at Moonrise on my first playthrough because I SCOURED that place up and down to properly infiltrate the cult! It was such an interesting interaction and kinda stressful because I only brought one character up there 😂
RE: the moonrise tower prison... I have 400 hours in-game, and after releasing the nightsong thought I'd just pop down into the basement because i'd forgotten to get the ilithid parasite in the pit... Then yeah, I got that encounter. I was flabbergasted; couldn't believe I'd missed it on so many run throughs. Its a fun fight and gives a good chunk of EXP too so I actually do it in every subsequent run. Amazing game to have so much content that it still surprises me after so long.
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Finally someone mentioning Henk !! I was amazed too by how little the internet knows about him
I'm pretty sure though there's more to him somehow... I can't remember if it's on him or in the basement below his tavern, but there's a note mentioning something about playing some music in the kitchen while the tavern is closed, and there's an NPC conveniently placed to guard the door...
He's still suspicious for me, but I couldn't seem to figure out what might trigger anything in my many playthroughs
Edit : and the fact the only difference in their lines is "bleed/blood"..... and they go "Ja......a"..... I need to go back there with JAheirA and Karlach maybe. Or as Karlach dating Jaheira ? Damn so many more stuff to try....
This game has so much content that players will never see :O
Kind of amazing
Pretty sure Henk and Honk would be a reference to VivaLaDirt in regards to laziness haha
I had the "prison full of enemies" in my playthrough. I don't know what I did differently to end up with that scenario, I just happened to do every quest I could before getting to the tower itself. There were also no story characters there, which is weird because I had a quest for checking if the duke was in the prison, but once I got there nothing happened story-wise.
I wonder what the most experience you can get in the game? Fighting the hidden kobolds at the forge in act 3, all the extra goblins, killing all the tieflings and backup tieflings, etc. All the random things that would actually maximize the experience in each act and in the entire game
That's not a "lazy" fail safe for Honk! HIS HAS A SEPARATE VOICE ACTOR, THAT'S INCREDIBLE
For the prison portion of number 8, That was the only encounter I had when going down there as my brain was thinking "Moonrise tower will have the important story beat so I'll do it last" freeing the nightsong in the process, then thinking "I will try and sneak around the encounter" so I entered from the bottom of the tower, being met with the death shepherds, which I promptly burnt them all with a wall of fire but I didn't know there were important things to do in the prison otherwise though.
Did you not then go down the big red hole and find the bodies of all those prisoners you meant to save?
I'm sure someone has mentioned this in the coments, but the Djinn in act 3, the one at the circus, who tav can play a game with, if you pickpocket his ring and then play his game, you get transported to a rainforest looking place and meet some dinosaurs. That was a weird encounter for me in my last play through
You can knock out Alfira when playing as a Good Dark Urge, so Quill will apear in her place. This way, Alfira will be alive in act 2 and 3. Its a good way to see Quill and leave Alfira alive.
It’s a metagamey thing to do, just like the neutral route Minthara method, but better to be able to get that potent robe as Durge than be locked out altogether
@@kevwox Neutral/good route Minthara actually isn't "metagamey" anymore and it does finally make sense to be able to recruit her in every playthrough
@@KervynVarro it is 100% a metagame strategy-- not metagaming in the sense of "do this because it's optimal and the meta relies on it," but meta in the sense that no one knows that minthara even is a companion until they loot her camp clothing/they learn from someone else out of the game; it requires outside knowledge (and there's nothing wrong with this, i do believe minthara's intended to be a second playthrough and beyond type of companion anyway and i like the addition for that purpose.)
from a roleplaying standpoint, there's little reason to knock minthara out rather than kill her, if you're choosing to side with the tieflings. the characters wouldn;t even know that she's someone they'd be able to recruit. however-- from a purely gameplay standpoint, especially from the standpoint of someone who replays the game, it definitely makes sense to use this method every time because as repeat players, we are typically trying to see as much of the game as possible
Ive seen another video of it, but some of the tieflings in the grove have rare failsafe characters for if theyre killed and cant appear at your camp to party. Some are replaced by another character, but then killing those are also failsafes for yet ANOTHER new character you cant kill beforehand. Then theres the one tiefling to move you (also in another video I learned of) for if youre in the grove with 1 party member as you kill the last goblin leader, which would normally have the tieflings relocated upon return
That one is also my video :) thanks for checkin my channel!
With regards to Alfira or Quil Grootslang dying, you can go knock out Alfira before doing the long rest that initiates the cutscene, resulting in Quil's death and Alfira remaining alive. Just be sure to use a stealth character like Astarian to knock her unconscious so you don't risk any negative outcomes with her.
hmm I tried in Honor mode and it didn't seem to work so I assumed they fixed it, but it could be one of those things that only got changed in Honor mode.
@@ProxyGateTactician where did you long rest? In my first durge playthrough, I would knock her out and long rest at the Druids grove immediately after. On a subsequent durge run, I knocked her out, travelled to Waukeen’s rest and the failsafe triggered
@@ProxyGateTactician alfira comes to your camp after you meet her and leave the grove. Do your thing at grove, before leaving knock her out and when outside take a long rest.
@@arjunkishore4080 I normally did it right after knocking her out in the grove yeah.
@@ProxyGateTactician Knocking out Alfira worked for me in Honor mode. I found out through a different playthrough that jumping down towards Karlach from the Grove causes the Cutscene with Alfira to happen immediatly (unless you recruit Karlach before recruiting Wyll, which case the confrontation between the two happens first).
I knocked out Alfira and did the Karlach skip on the same day and after long resting it triggered the scene with Quil in camp.
Larian's solution to player's killing henk, is honestly the most DM thing ever lmao.
"Murderhobo? That's fine! I'll just replace henk's planned scenes with ,, uhhh,,, honk!"
350 hours in this game - I knew basically none of these things. Good job
I've been hearing from a few die-hard Baldurs Gate 3 fans that there's actually a secret way to keep Astarion alive and in your party after he tries you bite you in the campsite. Somehow I've never found it though.
You can! You just don't stab him lol. Is it sarcasm
How can you not stab him though? I don't understand.@@ProxyGateTactician
Yeah, the secret is not stabbing him….
I don't understand how that's possible. How can you NOT stab him?@@mynamehere69
Also, in the Booal encounter if your a bard you can convince the fish people to turn on booal and claim his title instead. funny encounter👍👍
why nobody talks about Stalker Svignee? he is in upper city sewers when you reach high hall
Side note -> I read that people found that character with Minthara. But I haven't been able to re-produce it. Any luck there?
I really should have thrown it into the video though. Forgot about that one and it would have been a perfect fit.
@@ProxyGateTactician i killled her in act 1 and there was no minthara. not sure how to trigger it.
Quil was one of my favorite encounters. Her singing is 10/10 just like your content Proxy 😊
Hers a nother hiden fact u can fined the fish people in EVERY act. Act 1 its in the underdark (u alredy know)
act 2 neer the hospital thers a cave entereance ( not the nightsong one) that has a bunch of acid/poisen in it with a acid slime fight of u go in to the pit. Go threw the cave and ull fined the fish.
Act 3 u can fined them in balders gate past the foundery where thers people having a funural. U can go past them on to the beach and in to a cave sneek past the meer peopl and ull see some dead fish people and a spetal incounter if u steeal from the treshure.
If ur having truble finding any of these just respond here and i can try and help.
i think one that people miss a lot is if you do not discover that Astarion is a vampire, when you meet the Gur Hunter Gandrel outside Ethel's House with the right dialog options Astarion can instantly kill him in the cutscene and you get a sweet crossbow and avoid a semi annoying fight.
Oh so THAT'S the wiki's notes on "Choose correct dialouge to kill hunter".
If you never recruit Astarion and reach Cazador, he will have a zombie Astarion for the sacrifice, which can be (somehow) revived with a revivify scroll after the fight. Sadly, he just becomes a non-aggressive Zombie who can't be added to the party
Didnt realize I could revive him lol i'll have to try that next time
you can assert dominance on astarion if you kill him at the first encounter then revive him as well
I got Quil instead of Alfira on both of my Dark Urge runs. First one was because all of the tieflings had been murdered by the druids, and the second one was because I didn't get what was supposed to be Alfira's cutscene until after the tieflings were already safely on the road to Act 2. I was like... okay, I guess I'll never see Alfira then!
0:11 how the heck did you get Alfira as a Companion? Is that a mod?
It's not Alfira, it's a PC
If you side with Brithvar in Grymforge against Nere, if he dies in that encounter, another duergar sprints in to talk you through the same after battle dialogue that Brithvar has, even to free the deep gnomes. I've seen him twice in playthroughs. I have considered mudering him to see who is his failsafe.....
That particular Duergar I believe I saw the first time I picked this route lmao. I think it’s the one that caged and killed the Drow. I fucking hate that particular guy but I never start a fight with him in fear of aggroing the camp early
@@kevwox You can stealth kill him after you talk the spiders into leaving and it won't aggro the camp. I go area by area in Grymforge killing the duegar so there's only four or five left for the final fight.
i do have to say, a lot of people find the dragonborn bard by knocking out alfria, which saves her.
Knocking out Alfira will also make Quill show up, making it the only way to save the former as dark urge.
I don’t know how many people have seen this, but in the blighted village in I think the house with the necromancy of thay, (or neighbor house) you go through the book shelves you will find a diary and shadowheart has a cut scene.
5:10 Fun Fact: if you're a dragonborn you can basically just tell Bugthimble to go away
My favorite 'hidden' moment is the dark urge butler congratulating me on my depravity and shocked that I destroyed the inn "without even needing encouragement"
The Dragonborn bard is also crucial for a Dark Urge player to get the potent robe, as it can only be gotten through saving the tieflings in act 2, which is a quest given by Alfira. Right before the long rest that happens before Alfira showing up, you must knock her unconscious in Emerald Grove. This will also cause Quill to show up instead of Alfira, allowing you to do the quest in act 2 (if you didnt attack the Emerald Grove in Act 1)
Actually had Zombie Minthara in my first playthrough because I started as Durge and wanted to be an actual true soul but wanted to keep her as well.
So in the end I saved her from getting killed, wanted to save her again and noticed that I'd betray the true souls. So I didn't and she became a zombie. x)
In one playthrough as a bard in act 1, i picklocked the doors to the abandoned crypt. I went through it as normal but when i exited it from the top side doors after fighting those adventurers, i got a unique dialog with the gnome and his goons. I scared them away by saying i was an evil spirit whos out to kill them
Regarding Quil, there is actually a sad little letter found in Act 3 (Spoiler): After you kill Sarevok, you can explore the area and find prison cells. In one of the cells you can find a headless corpse with a letter on it. In said letter, the guy writes to Quil, praising her talents as bard and her beautiful scales, wishing to meet up with her (as he has feelings for her). Judging by the fact he has the letter, but no mroe head on him, we can assume he never got to confess to her... So even if she doesn't show up as failsafe character, she is still referenced.
I had no idea the Zhentarim boss was a replacement, I have seen her in literally every playthrough so far
So you always killed Roah Moonglow hahaha
@ProxyGateTactician I mean... she always dies. Sometimes I don't even know how
There is an interesting location in the Underdark, nearby the entrance to the BOOAL cave. Up to high rock, which some Drow climbed to find out a quick way from the Underdark to the Surface. If u go there and pass magic or constitution check to find out a fake wall, there will be an entrance up to the secret cave on the surface. And in that cave you can find another secret entrance to somewhere. This entrance has no available options for checks or any interactions with. So its only possible to pass it via glitches. The most interesting part is that behind this door is a whole new location, which is lighted in grey as un-discovered. And this whole cave location has its own uniqie map too
Really?? I'll have to check it out. It's not the hag one right? That sound similar to what you described where you need the hag's mask to pass through the wall in the underdark.
@@ProxyGateTactician the door there looks very similar to the door for hag cave. But it has no interaction options or checks. Tbh, I didn't try one of the hag's mask to open it.
@ProxyGateTactician a buddy and I actually know what this is. It's an entrance to/exit from Ethel's tea house. You need to wear one of the masks to get through it. And do some jumping to get to it.
That area is the Hag's Lair. I assume the Hag would open that path for you if you help her.
@@nudistofdespairto my knowledge you can't really go through that part peacefully. And letting her go just has her vanishing away. But there's 4 masks on a table next to the illusion door at the hag's lair entrance that my buddy and I used.
To fight zombie mithara, you dont have to kill/kidnap Isobel. Just let balthazar take Nightsong and sneak your way to Kethric on rooftop. He'll say you made half measures so now absolute will judge you etc.
For the Shadows of Thay - on my first playthrough I was a cleric of Lathander. I had no idea what the book unlocked and couldn't justify why a cleric of Lathander would willingly read that book, so I blew it up with a guiding bolt. I feel pretty cool about myself for having seen that part :)
5:17 there’s a unique dialogue option here for dragonborn players. I can’t fully remember but I believe it was a persuasion check saying something about disapproving their own kin to be doing such a disgraceful thing like graverobbing.
He leaves the grave with the loot without a fight.
One thing about the Kobold encounter. In act I the body of previous Scratch owner has a letter to Nine Fingers describing that grave. If you read this before, you can use it as a dialogue option with the kobold to resolve encounter without a fight.
if your a cleric of lolth and you try to take the phalar aluve in the underdark by following the ritual, lolth herself will send you a warning and your tav can feel spiders crawling on theyre back
6:23 there is also a way to persuade the kua toa to stop praying for boaaal and make them start praying for you, dont know how to achive it
Pass the rolls that happen in the dialogue to know it's a red cap and then pass the persuasion roll.
Edit: The passive rolls that happens during the dialogue.
If Zevlor were to die, there's actually a different tiefling that appears out of nowhere to replace him as a new leader of the tieflings in the Emerald Grove.
And not just that, but it's not the only failsafe. There's few more replacements if you keep killing them, as well. Don't remember how many, tho.
Yep it’s from my other video :)
As far as I know it's enough to knock Alfira unconscious after meeting her for the first time as Dark Urge in order to both keep her alive and see the Dragonborn fallback character.
I just started playing as dark urge with no hesitation for massacre and damn it really changes the whole storytelling. And yeah, I stopped at the end of act 1 and spoiled to myself what will happen to me in act 2 with that part of your video about zombie Minthara and Dror Ragzlin. Well, better not watch anything about the game before I finally get tired of playing all of different scenarios I have in my head
There are plenty of failsafe Tieflings who can appear if you kill some of the Tieflings before siding with them in act 1, but one specific one (whose name I can't recall) can only appear if you kill all the goblin leaders, while one of your party members is in Druid's Grove. He shows up at the goblin camp to tell you about the tieflings leaving the grove now that it's safe. The purpose of this encounter is solely so that the Tieflings can change positions from their usual locations to their "about to leave the Grove"-spots without you seeing them do it.
Also, as the Dark Urge, if you knock out Alfira the day before she is supposed to show up at your camp, kill the dragonborn instead and then Alfira survives until the end of the game, you get a unique letter from her at Withers' party. Knocking out Alfira so that she survives is something I do every single time I play the Dark Urge (I can't commit to being evil), so I discovered this pretty naturally, before realizing how convoluted getting it actually is.
"most player wouldn't see her" every dark urge that plays as a second play through knock up alfira to save her and murder this poor dragonborn
Bro that’s so funny you got two people outta that zhentarim summon, and to make it worse they at 1 health right off the bat