Planet Coaster College - Brake Sections (Block, Trims & Friction/Magnetic)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Every coaster in the game has three types of brakes available: block brakes, trim brakes and friction or magnetic brakes. In this video I'll go over the differences and how to use them to your advantage.
I'll also go over how block brakes can be used to add multiple trains to a coaster, how trims can and should be used sparingly, and how even the flattest sections of track may not always be as flat as you think they are.
Also good stuff to learn more about brakes:
This video brings up the point to keep station timing in mind. It can be made a lot easier with mid-course brake runs, but the point is still true, and it's something I forgot to mention. If your coaster is short enough, you won't need a mid-course brake run at all.
• Block Brakes Example
Also a good explanation on blocks:
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About Planet Coaster College: PCC is a series of video guides in which I cover many aspects of making realistic and creative parks in Planet Coaster. One of my goals with the series is to make a video explaining each of the coaster types avaliable and show you how to build them, but there will also be some videos about elements of theme parks and the game in general, such as buildings and scenery. Overall, the series is directed toward already seasoned players of the games, though I do sprinkle tips that may be useful for beginners too.
I should make a great and fun coaster with tons of ejector airtime and floater airtime, then trim the hell out of it. I will call it: B&m - the ride
lol
Silver Star: The Sequel
Silvarret omfg so true, you don't get any airtime in the front seat, you only get the slightest amount of floater airtime in the back
well, you do get some ejector airtime near the end after the mcbr
Mako: The Sequel
Does anyone else wish that Frontier would add transfer tables?
I'm just waiting for linux release.
I want this just to finally be able to watch a transfer table in action. It’s one reason I’ve wanted to work a roller coaster. Just so I could watch that.
@@DAMColten Maybe in Planco 2
I also wish you could make switchtracks and droptracks.
maybe in Planco 2 at this rate but yes I do make then transfer shed look actually have purpose
They need to set it up like coasters do in real life where the lift wont run at full speed until the next zone is clear.
Beware: Covid is coming.
I made a coaster that was so aesthetically beautiful when I started, but over time, I started chipping away at the scenery to make way for expansion later. At the end it just looked like total shit.
I called the coaster No Man's Sky
ill go get the ice to put on the burn
LOL this comment made my day
Tom Clayton Roasted
Tom Clayton Ha. Haha. Hahaha. Good one.
Tom Clayton LMAO so true!
Love how u added that one tree and 2 rocks by the section u were explaining. Thanks for the video man.
xD was gonna say the same
I am sure I am speaking for everyone here. I LOVE THIS SERIES! Like if you agree so Silvarret can see it.
One of the things this game does need to add is a friction setting. It seems like brake sections aren't as useful as they should be because coasters seem to lose speed a lot quicker than they do in real life.
It depends on the coaster type, but yeah definitely.
Exactly. the friction is so overbearing that you hardly ever need to trim and it leaves MCBRs more of a blocking necessity than a brake. It just shouldn't slow down as much as it does.
I agree, I have a lot of problems with my coasters slowing down way too quickly
Agreed. I've tried to make recreations from plans, but the coaster never makes it round. I've had one run at 20mph when I know it should be going at least 40mph
Very true, dive coasters are one of the worst you have out of proportion coasters massive drop small loop. Friction setting is a must.
These brakes could make or brake how good a roller coaster is
Get out.
lol
normally using puns would be braking the rules of the internet but i will let it slide instead of blocking you and reporting you on roblox
I know this is a pun, but on a side note I went to the same ride but different park which had a block brake in the middle and it ruined the ride. It would be a full stop making you slam forward, wait a minute, then continue.
@@thetangerine5747 What ride?
@@hoppingh907 Goliath, Six Flags (Dallas I think)
Nice to see a detailed how to video, I'm all good with things like this but for newcomers and people who arent enthusiasts this is really helpful, keep it up dude
Not only are you an unbelievable builder, you can also make excellent informative and very clear instructional videos! Great job.
Decent video, as always! :p
As CoolioJoe100 already explained, trim brakes are usually not design flaws, and 90% of the time manufacturers plan them in the design - even when they are not installed eventually. Because as for all the other kind of brakes, IRL you still need a straight line in your layout in order to place a brake. So for instance, in the Mako simulation, on the Fury 325 one, you can spot the places where trim brakes will potentially be installed in the future, because there are small straigh lines on the hills.
Actually, whenever you need a straight line or not depend on the design : If the fins underneath the train are vertical (Intamin, Premier, etc.), you can do vertical curves, but no curves or rotations. If the fins are horizontal (B&M), you can't at all.
Now for the block brakes, that was a great explaination, I just feel like you missed one important notice about a mistake people often do: you'd be careful to have your MCBR high enough so the train is sure to clear the layout in case of a stop, even if in normal operations the train keep its speed from the previous block.
Also, when you put the final brake run, it would have been nice to end the brake run with a block section.
THERE. It's off my chest, I can sleep now. ^^
Intimidator 305 is the best example for trimbrakes. It caused many blackout at the beginning. so they installt brakes. Later they made the first curve wider, so it wouldn't cause blackout anymore
Thanks for making this video! This has really explained a lot to me since I never truly familiarized myself with the brakes and the different types.
A lot of coasters I rode that have mid-course brake runs don't slow the train down but just to run multiple trains. The real coasters also have two sets of block brakes at the end just before the station.
Beautiful explanation Silv! Blocking is kind of high-level thinking for most RCT style players, but it's crucial if you want your parks to run well and your queues to empty.
Perhaps a more straightforward way to explain block brakes is that they divide the coaster into, well, blocks. Only 1 train can occupy a block at a time. You did explain this in the video, but not in so many words. I also feel that the coaster example you used for block brakes was rather poor, I would have tried to make a less compact layout so we could more easily see the many blocks the ride was divided into.
You still explained it appropriately, I just feel like the block sections part in particular could have been more well put-together. Thanks again!
Fun fact the trim brakes on nitro at great Adventure in New Jersey are turned off and were never used again and are just there for show basically because the park thought the trim brakes took away from the speed and force you feel on the hammerhead element also because they though the ride might lose too much speed and would have a problem with valleying
Please do more of these especially about coasters
I think I need to take a *BRAKE* after this video. This was informative and I feel I can make good use of this knowledge.
Digital Unity honestly jokes like this put me on the *braking point*
"This coaster is a disaster" .... shows a almost Silver Star like design, hahaha I lold
I worked a 1972 Arrow mine train coaster with 5 blocks. Everything was manual. All brakes. All lift chains. You had to physically climb the lifts to turn them on. The stopping mechanisms in the blocks were either skid brakes, lift chains or rotating rubber tires. The brake run had trim, ready, dispatch, safety. All were completely manual. If you held the buttons down on the panel you could shoot the coaster through. Adding trains had to be manually moved on the transfer track and hand pushed into the track. All brakes were skid brakes. So you had to know the ride very well and have great timing. Block checks were only done in the morning by the morning crew so consequently if there were ever a shut down in the evening - nobody knew what to do including the supervisors. If you didn't turn the right key or press the right button it was totally screwed. I also opened the ride and did the block check.
Hey, thanks for the tutorial! I have a suggestion though. Can you make a video about coaster reliability? Everytime I build a coaster I get low reliability. I always keep an eye on the speed and G forces to make sure they're not too harsh, I smooth the track until I can't smooth no more and I do use trim brakes when necessary even though it makes the ride a lot less exciting. Sometimes I have to redesign the whole thing and if I'm lucky enough I can make the reliability average. But the rides still break down quite often. Well, it's not clear how it works and it's sooo annoying when profitable coasters break down every 5 minutes or so. Thank you :)
Personally i put the expection time at 20minutes. Normally that makes quite a difference already. Maybe once every year do a refurbish helps as well
Thank you! Block brakes make a lot more sense now. I'm not sure if you've mentioned it in another video, but for brakes there's also a second tab (which took me a while to find!) where you can control things like the Brake Target Speed and Deceleration Rate (and for block breaks, Release Speed and Release Acceleration too). You can also control how fast lifts go and how much acceleration you get from launched sections. There's an icon above the Angle Snap, Auto Tunnel, etc. that looks like a clipboard, and next to that is one that looks like a list and says "Utility Settings" when you hover over it. Really useful stuff, but a bit hidden away if you ask me! Hope that's useful for someone. :)
Thanks so much!
Red Nebula OMG thank you so much for this! (also, awesome name).
Do Coasters with higher G-Forces actually break down faster (in the game)?
i like the little tree
Great tutorial! That covered a lot of info and was very helpful.
Hopefully they patch in an option to synchronize block brakes. I've got a dueling coaster waiting for that feature to work properly.
Great vid.. thank you Silvarret.
Maybe, since this is a 'College', (instructional) you could do the heat maps explanation video next... especially since you have a note in this video about heat maps and nausea etc.
You are Silvarret... a note will *not* do. ;)
cheers
Also whilst I'm here, great videos btw Silvarret, is it possible to specify how long the train can be held on the block, I.e. You never want to hold a train at the top of the lift. Therefore can you add a new block section at the base of the lift and tell it to only move onto the lift once the next block is clear?
OMG I WANT THIS GAME SOOOO BAD
And trust me you will NOT be disappointed!! You can create what ever you can think of without any limitations!
I am not quite sure if you did make a video on this but maybe the way to build coasters as smooth as possible would be very nice
Watch his wooden coaster tutorial. He explains smoothness very well there.
In PC, Trim Brakes are also MUCH more expensive than Friction/Magnetic Brakes, and they murder your Reliability score if you use them too much. I think a single tiny flat section of Trims is like $500. You really only want to use them when they're needed.
Is this a on line co-op game where more than one can play in the same game and help each other out at the same time?
thanks for everything dude your videos have been great and very inspiring! thanks to your videos my builds in planet coaster have improved greatly and i am curious what you think of it? (small timelapses on my channel) Cheers!
The one thing that constantly screws up block timing are the guests. Loading a train full often takes longer than the running time of the coaster but having it run half empty isn't really economical. So that is a factor one has to consider.
These video's are really helpfull! Thank you silv
awesome video....was getting frustrated at my trains stopping at the top of the lifts
What if you build the station and when you build more in the station the cart gets bigger
Still using this content years later
Excellent tutorial on brakes, thank you.
I hate when the coasters at my home park are only running one train, yet pretty much completely stop at the mid course brake run.
Can you do some building techniques next? I'm so bad at it!!
nice video!!!
Great vid!
You watched a 14 minute video in 2 minutes? wow!
Just to add, if you don't care about realism, the gameplay reason to use regular brakes (instead of trim brakes for everything) is that regular brakes cost less and can be set to have a higher deceleration rate.
Can you do a video on paths?
Had quite a few requests for this, so I've put it on the list. Any pointers as to what you want me to cover most? It's a pretty broad topic, I'm not too sure how to cover it.
I would like to see a tutorial about how to make paths that function well and blend seamlessly with scenery (like in Suzaku). Paths that create a central plaza/ courtyard too. Also, maybe custom light posts and fences?
YES...sometimes I have troubles connecting paths and at times the outsides of the paths and rails turn red and when the do these "RED POSTS" pop up in the middle and I have know idea what they are for and what to do with them. Do you have any idea? Thanks Silva!
What does it mean when the game won't let you press the BLOCK BREAKS option.
when are you going to continue fantasy valley?
or are you going to continue fantasy valley?
Thanks for this! The game doesnt really explain it terribly well.
Can you disable the lift hill as a block? My 2nd train always have to wait at the top of the hill and I don't want to add an extra block brake in the middle of my track. Is there a solution?
I hate block brakes. I used to operate a rollercoaster and you had to constantly ensure that cars were moving through the station. If we had a person taking there time getting out of the back car and I had already sent the front car out I had to ensure that the back car got out of that position otherwise the whole coaster would shut down and then take ages to get it running again.
I have 3 block brakes but I can only have 1 train. I’m so confused
This can make or brake your coaster.
Trim breaks cannot do tight inversions or very tight banks.
If you go down and then lifted up, can you also stop it for about 10 seconds on a part that the track is lifting you up?
For those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy. At the end of a block zone is a method to stop the train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another.
Ik snap er geen snars meer van. Ik heb je Hybrid coaster tutorial gekeken en op 20:50 heb je het over die remmen aan het eind, inclusief block brakes. Ik heb dat overgenomen in al mijn coasters, want ik dacht dat dat slim zou zijn. Nu zeg je in deze video dat block brakes aan het einde hebben een "disaster" is. Hoe zou het dan moeten?
Block brakes enkel op het einde is vaak een probleem, maar dit is alleen bij lange banen zoals B&M hypercoasters die meestal in het midden een block brake section hebben. Hybrid achtbanen hebben eigenlijk nooit block brakes in het midden en zijn vaak kort genoeg om ze niet nodig te hebben. Regel is in het algemeen dat zolang de treintjes niet bovenaan de lifthill hoeven te wachten (of heel erg lang in het station) dat je geen block brakes halverwege de baan nodig hebt.
Silvarret Thanks voor de info!
Je bent gewoon Nederlands! perfect Engels!
Ahhh thank you so much you saved me I want to make a theme park that revolves around mining like underground stuff and I wanted to make the coaster go under ground and then come to a complete stop and then something happens and they catch speed and fly out from underground I wanted to make something like (Expedition Everest from Disney)
California Screamin' at Disney California Adventure in Anaheim uses a trim break before the loop. The coaster runs a little faster when it comes into the approach so it can be trimmed for very accurate entry speeds. I don't know if it was a fix or built into design, the track layout seems to point towards the latter. It's not very offensive and it doesn't really affect the pace to me.
This would have been so much easier explained and illustrated if you had just used the word "section" instead of "block" when referring to a portion of track, and had just made a simple oval coaster with a hill or two. It would also help people to understand that the whole reason for blocks is to prevent an even worse catastrophe by preventing the rear trains into smashing into the train in front of them should train in front have a failure. Basically, trains don't get the go-ahead to start onto the next section of track before it's been cleared by the train in front of it.
Its weird that the twist coaster (I don't know the exact name) with the spinning cars n'ignore the block sections. There can be like 2 or 3 trains in the same block section wtf.
I need to @ this vid at a few RUclips (CTOP, Keralis, Nothernlion, Flabaliki)
the Coaster look like the new one at a Dianey land or something, I know there was a new one a built, but u dint know where.
Worked on a BnM hyper for a while now, everyone hates a particular trim break before a hypothetical pop of airtime
Having any type of trim brake on a curve is not realistic since the brake fin or brake shoes on the vehicle chassis are straight. None of those brakes can be used on curved track.
I thought the regular brakes also have a release speed setting although only offers very low values, so they don't need to be on slope? Or am i wrong?
So how should I attempt to make a coaster with no MCBR?
How does Fury 325 and other gigas work if they don't have a MCBR yet they run 3 trains!
Our trim would stop the train cold. Was so much fun to run because it was totally up to you! It didn't automatically stop.
5:35 Here we have a coaster that is a disaster and not necessarily because I made it XD silvarret you make great coasters what are you talking about
How did you do that with your wooden coaster? I can't see any blockbrakes in the middle of the track
I wish they would make triggered brakes that hold the car until a trigger has been activated.
How do you even make lifthills as block sections on PS4?
Block brakes have to be put in a place that the train will complete circuit when released.
Why don't I find you in the featured creators / celebrity ?
THANK YOU brakes are confusing
So at the end of the coaster, the friction brakes go right after the block breaks?
That ride is way too slow. Cool layout though.
Btw I can put cat walk for breaks
Trim Brakes is the definition of B&M Rollercoasters
its a fantastic tutorial abaut how to make bettercoasters.
its super
I really wanted a new computer for Christmas to get Planet Coaster- until the requirements needed 8GB of RAM!! I'm really sad that I'm not getting Planet Coaster, because if I DID get it, I'm basically paying about $700.00 for the game. I wish the game didn't need so many gigabytes. :(
Believe it or not, I read this whole comment. *laughs* Thank you for replying because I just needed to say that out loud.
Hoi
Can the the speed of the breaking be set like in rct123?
How can I have multiple trains on it though...
Just wanted to say thanks for all your great tutorials including this one. They are very well done. It's nice to know something about the history and actual use of characteristics of coaster types in addition to all the tips on how to make them. I also find these tutorials present info on several skill levels so that I can do the beginner parts then come back for the more advanced lessons. Great job.
I hope someday you do a video on that so-called "famiiy" coaster with the cars that spin horizontally. That one is totally baffling me.
Plz make more of these videos. They are so helpful
Something worth mentioning in relation to block sections, is the time it takes to fully load a train - thus, even if you have longer sections where trains are waiting when you test, it might not be a problem ones you open the coaster.
great lesson. thanks for sharing
Great video man, really helpful! I especially found the block brakes section helpful, something I was finding really tricky and confusing, so thankyou!!
Pls just show the settings for it
Can't wait to graduate Planet Coaster College!
Love your vids, keep up the good work!
Are there any planet coaster tutorials that are actually planet coaster tutorials? I am so tired of hearing about "real life" when I try to watch videos on the video game I'm playing.
I love the intro for planet coaster college
I realize this was 5 years ago haha but here I am! Anyway, I wish you went into more depth with the trim brakes as I'm having a hard time getting the settings correct for it to slow my coaster down properly.
Good video..Left a like
Can you please do a tutorial on how to make a River Rapids ride with a high excitement level? I also think it would be great if you could do a tutorial on how to do realistic tunnels in rides.
This video was very helpful. Was wondering why my coasters would pause on top of the lift hill but now I know.
I know this video is out for a couple of years, but what you haven't talked about is the "power" of the breakes. Well I assume you just have to figure it out how to set them up but sometimes I wonder if it makes any sense if for example you put 5 block segments together you put higher brake speeds on top or at the end of this. (20, 18, 15 etc.)
It would be nice if anyone can tell ;)
Fair point, I should've mentioned this. You're right, that's how it's done.