Hi there. The inductance is what controls the crisp of the arc which when turned up it wets out the weld very effectively on thicker material for good penetration and lower settings will make it easier to weld thinner material. Hope this helps.
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Inductance is dig it will increase the amperage when the arc is being smothered by shorter arc length. 6010 is f3 group celluolocitic deep pen mild deposition fast freezing rod. 7018 is f4 group iron powder low hydrogen mild pen mild to heavy deposition rod. When testing it's very difficult to get an idea how it's running on such thin material as the arc characteristics will change so dramatically with the temp of the base metal. Also toss toss that .030 in the toy box where it belongs. Run .035 min even better run .045 er70s6 . Type of shielding gas is also huge factor for spatter and arc stability.
found your channel about 2 months ago , the dialog sounded interesting , so I continued to watch .FINALLY a no Bullshit builder who has a good time at his work , and pulls no punches about how he describes a project , and give a great amount of information as to how , and why a process is being used .! I am a 50 yr Carpenter union member with welding as a side hobby , Tay thank you for all you are showing us !
I have the Everlast Cyclone 212. It’s been an excellent machine but I have to agree about the powerset being off, it’s almost unusable once you get to 1/8th inch and above.. I’ve been running Lincoln Super Arc L-56, so I decided to check out they’re recommended settings for .030 wire, and they are almost spot on for this welder. I usually run it around 19v/280ipm for 1/8th inch with 60-80% inductance. Other than the powerset being off, I haven’t had a single problem with my 212 and I’ve had it for almost a year now. I had the Cyclone 200e before this one and it was also an excellent machine.
Regarding the 'difficult to access in gloves' front panel dust shield: I found a deep socket of desired OD, put an extension on it for a handle and laid the socket portion in the factory finger detent. I then gently softened the area by the closed door detent with a heat gun and pushed the door closed over the socket radius. Took a couple of reheat tweaks to achieve the desired effect, but the mod looks OEM and works great. No more gloved hand vs. flat dust shield issues.
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Simply put Induction smooths out the arc while short arc mig welding. Some companies might call it dig control. Too much inductance can case the arc to be unstable and cause the weld to be porous, too little can cause the arc to be to hot and things burn up. Inductance controls the current rise every time the wire shorts out in the weld pool. Bob Moffit is cool.
Hi from VT 🍁! I’m definitely not in the target demographic for your channel and never would have thought I’d sit through 4 hours of anyone’s video but something about your spirit, sense of humor and joy in what you do is contagious and I keep coming back. Awesome job y’all
Re your problems with vertical-up welding with 7018 rod, around 45 minutes into the video. First, you can't manipulate 7018 with the whip-pause technique used for 6010. 7018 needs a steady travel speed with constant tight arc, that's why your arc kept going out when you tried to whip it like 6010. NOT a problem with the machine. Second, 7018 has a low-hydrogen flux that must be stored in a rod oven at about 350 F to prevent it from absorbing moisture from the air. Exposed to air for just a few hours at room temperature, the flux absorbs too much moisture and the rod will not burn properly. Low-hydrogen rods (7016, 7018, 7028) have inconvenient storage requirements, but they produce the highest quality weld metal, and best cosmetic appearance, of any SMAW electrode when used properly.
6010 is good for welding on rusty, dirty metal and for good penetration. 7018 is a low hydrogen wire. Keeps more of the unwanted gas in the weld. Cutting down on cracking, but you have to keep the flux dry. So better off in a rod oven to keep from getting porosity in the weld. In whitch you guys probably already know. So you get more comments. 6010 will not run very good on cheap welders. I used to weld High Pressure Steamlines and Natural Gas. 6010 first pass and consecutive passes with 7018.
I bought the everlast tig welder and have always been a big Miller guy. I based my purchase off of your work! I thank you for opening my eyes to this great machine!
Do you know what mate, I live in South Wales in the UK, and regularly watch your channel. You have had a free welder because your channel is great, and they know it, so grab them all with both arms because you deserve it. Keep going mate, Ignore any trolls, and keep doing the videos. I have a CNC plasma table in my home workshop, which is why I started watching you, and enjoy every video. You should make more of them. Have you thought of selling/sharing your DXF files. Thanks Dai
For 6010/6011 you probably have to switch to high cellulose mode. Not all inverters can run those rods, but I believe everlast has a high cellulose setting.
From what I've read, too much spatter can also be a polarity issue when MIG welding. Also, when stick welding, usually it's the rod who dictates the polarity and not the machine. So maybe the machine has a firmware bug there, but you could simply just test it yourself, and plug it the other way around, or as you would plug the miller, for instance. It should not harm the machine, I think. It would just work better or worse
Welder/fitter here. We run pretty much everything from 3/16ths to half inch at 24/440 to 26/475. We use Miller 251's and 252's so the Everlast may be different but your running way to cold. The sound should be like frying bacon. The only time we run 16-18 volts is when were doing sheet metal.
Just to let you know, I have followed Lift Arc Studios everywhere y’all put out content. I actually really want to learn how to weld and the amount of know how and knowledge that you all have is totally awesome! You are living the dream and you’re extremely fortunate to have everything you’ve got in your life Tae! ❤
High inductance will give you a nice buttery weld puddle that's easy to manipulate and wet in the toes. Low inductance will make a stiffer narrower puddle that will leave a taller thinner bead. You want to do "mig like tig"? You want high inductance. It really changes the personality of the welder
Great to see another product review and a fair assessment. As for the spatter…you might try keeping the MIG torch angled between 5° to 15° from vertical. This allows the shielding gas produced by the gun to envelop the weld area and protect it from contamination. If you hold the torch at an angle of 20° or more, it will push the gas to one side of the weld and cause the puddle to spatter. And of course material dimensions and form play a role in this technique.
Glad I found your site. Just starting this the same as you. I'm an old school welder learning these new machines. So happy I'm not the only one on this learning curve.
It just shows you how much that you have put into your shop and your information is great for us viewers. I am just a part time guy that enjoys seeing the sparks fly. LOL Thanks for all that you do for this channel and I will still watch every post that you put on the tube!
What a classy intro Tay , your success is the result of you being you, along with hard work and honesty . I'm an avid viewer of your channel . How you are only sitting a 28k subs is beyond me . Clean the scale off of what your welding helps with weld spatter. You need more heat,ignore the presets
6010 is an all position, cellulose deep penetrating quick freeze rod generally used as a root pass in pipe fitting. 7018 is an all position, low hydrogen rod and is a high strength high deposit rod used after the 6010 for hot pass, fill and cap passes. 6010 works wet, not afraid of water. It can actually be too dry. 7018 has to be dry stored in an oven. Polarity is important dc electrode positive like flux core. The opposite of mig and tig.
if you get the machine higher up in the cart (if you put something beneath the machine basically) remove the handle and get it closer to the wooden shelf, maybe you could then open the door because of the arched tube from the cart. i don't know if i explained it well, but i think it wouldn't hurt to try. ;)
I love this channel, it's a great mix of tech, builds, and great humor. I discovered it about 2 months ago and did the deep dive, I have now watched all of them. It's awesome to see the progress and success you have had. Keep it up and we will stay along for the ride!
I have three welding machines. A MillerTrailblazer 325, a Lincoln 210MP, and an Everlast 210EXT. I’ll admit that I’m a Miller guy, even though when I started welding I thought I was a Lincoln guy. And now that I’m rambling I’ll just say it. Everlast makes a damn nice machine. I really enjoy running it in TIG mode in my garage. In straight DC TIG I’d say my Trailblazer is much better but that does not take away from the joy that running the Everlast brings me. It’s a smooth running machine that welds better than I’m capable of putting down. I hate to say it, but my Lincoln doesn’t bring me joy. 😂 Edit: and I just realized this video is a year old and I’m late to the conversation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 “yes I painted my nails a while ago! Get over it!!” Literally as I was wonder why you painted them. Couldn’t have been perfect timing. Absolutely love how you are direct and honest. Keep at it brother.
I’m an occasional welder. If it stays stuck on the hottest August days thats good enough. I got the 211 I think. MiG and stick. Easy to use- great welds. I recommend this everlast without reservation. Best for the price and best at any price.
I’m fairly new to your channel but, I keep tuning in. You don’t take yourself too seriously but, you run a fan shop so your opinion does hold some weight. You’re easy to listen to and you and your team actually provide some pretty useful advice! Everlast have been really smart with their marketing by sending out a heap of machines to different people to get, and keep, their name out in the industry. What you do works for them and, hopefully, their products work for you. Keep it coming!
So I originally skipped the stick part because I spend most of my time doing MIG/TIG. But this video came up on my feed again and I watched through the stick part. Not a pro welder either but I'd like to point out: 38:38/44:00 Jake's not wrong - Typically, celluosic electrodes E6010/E6011 is run DCEP (DC Electrode Positive). Rutile electrodes like E6012/E6013 are typically run DCEN (DC Electrode Negative). However, for 6011, it can be run DCEP/DCEN/AC without issue. DCEN is recommended for 6011 when working on thinner base metals to prevent over-penetration as it tends to run really aggressively. 7018 tends to not like DCEN. 7018 runs better DCEP/AC - which makes sense why it was running poorly if you left it DCEN like it wanted you to set it as.
Inductance stiffens and softens your welding arc. So if you have it set at a low number typically you will get a taller / narrower weld profile. Set to a higher number you will get a flatter / wider weld profile. If you want to set it and forget it, setting it in the middle usually works good. I personally set it in the middle or at about 75%
Inductance is a property of coils and transformers. On an old school transformer welder, the big coil of the transformer results in a very high inductance but on an inverter, it uses a tiny transformer with quite low inherent inductance and uses a digital controller and transistors and/or MOSFETs to control the output waveform but here, you can modify the waveform to simulate the effect of higher or lower inductance. In general, a higher inductance means that the start is a bit softer as the inductance resists the increase in current flow, but once lit, high inductance causes current in the arc to stay more steady and constant. Most people never use this setting, but if you are used to your old Miller transformer welder, you can crank the inductance to make it feel similar...
Inductance and/or arc force is a term that is a setting dial on the dc welder. It makes the weld puddle either “fast freezing” at the lower setting or “more liquid” at the higher setting. When welding uphill you want the puddle to fast freeze. If you are welding stick/ SMAW and your rod keeps sticking to the base metal, turning the arc force up will solve that problem. Likewise if your welding pipe and welding the root pass, weld cellulose rods (those ending with a zero,6010,8010 etc.) downhill. If you turn up the arc force the molten metal right at the land of the bevel will surround the rod with little to no light/or arc being emitted. This is called a “Texas keyhole”. Drag the rod downhand keeping enough rod push that the weld puddle is being deposited interior of the pipe bevel. These machines with Inductance/Arc Force settings have been the backbone for oil field work for years.
Guys, I am new to the channel, but the arc feature ( once you get use to it ) on my 256S is better than my 200amp Lincoln. I am betting those rods set around in the shop and took on moisture and need replaced and keep in dry storage. If you don't own an oven, find a used small ice box (Curb fine) and install a 60-100 light bulb in it. Your rods will love you for it (@@)! Also, Everlast has one of the best support teams out there. I have only need them twice, but spot on. At 70 I want be buying any more welders, but If I did, it would be an Everlast for sure. Bear in TX.
I recently took a welding class at the local maker space and began watching RUclips videos.. and your channel got recommended. I recognized Tay immediately from the TV series and I was hooked watching your first video with the $226 Vevor unit. This is a great video with what feels like your honest opinion about the Everlast unit. You also admitted when you didn't completely understand the unit and what you needed to learn. I'll be back!! Keep up the great videos and giving us your honest feedback, Cheers!
So I went out to my garage and got my everlast cyclone 200e set up for some 1/8” thick tubing and ran some passes on the auto set feature. At 241IPM and 18.7 V, it does great as long as I do what I’m supposed to do. Idk why the settings would be much different on yours??
“Was like the arc was cutting out” I JUST WANNA SCREAM ITS THE GODDAMN POLARITY! I have 2 everlast welders they are great and I guess unless you are a pipe welder you cannot weld with stick SMH lol
INDUCTANCE What is Inductance? Inductance controls how fast the current rises to reach the amps that have been selected when short circuit welding. Short circuit welding is a type of metal transfer in which the wire connects with the puddle and literally shorts the circuit.
Tay, place your Everlast Cyclone welder on a 2x10 (or however wide your welder is) to lift it up slightly off the shelf of your cart. That will give you some additional clearance between the mig wire access door and the frame of the cart.
i also have had a Millermatic212 for the last 10years & its Absolutely a crutch. Autoset is fair but doesnt allow for presicse adjustment. on the other hand it makes the "Weldor" compensate where the "Welder" comes up short.
I tend to call the difficulty in first welds on the unit as honeymoon period. You and the equipment just married, it was arranged in a sense... As long as you are qualifying it all, which you have, it's all good. If you are going to try and capture a lot of welding, I'd add a flip down 'helmet' for the camera lens. And since this was a year ago, you've probably done so.... Have you done a 1 year anniv review? That works well w content. Re-Reviewing if it's valid, not just to fill time.
Well said, Tay. You are one of the few who truly understands business and fabrication. Thank you for sharing the Everlast story and for thanking the viewers. Capt. Art
well i loved watching black dog salvage because i like your dad find uses for old items in different ways so thats how i found your channel and i really enjoy restoring old buildings so that why you have my support just remember your viewers are those hard working blue collar folks that don't have time for bs reviews if you get something and try it don't sugar coat reviews for the big companies
It’s funny you complain about splatter, but ask what inductance is. Inductance is basically splatter control. In a way it’s a frequency setting. Fine tuning in a way. The higher it is, the less splatter. But hotter pool. It basically controls how often the short circuit takes place.
I have two tig mma miller welders from the small to the biggest you can get, great and fantastic welders ever. I also have a mig that is 35 years old unknown make just know British made, it still welds like the day it was new, cost way less than blue red or green.
Keep putting one foot in front of the other Tay for you are following the right path. I enjoy the content this channel puts out and always like to see some down to earth real people doing their thing. Keep up the good work.
I have a 140e. You can fine tune auto set point wire speed and voltage settings slightly but only within a certain amount. I still prefer manual control. What’s nice is they limit voltage by wire size. Overall I’m really impressed with mine for the price
My biggest problem with the digital welders I've tried is that the presets are really all over the place compared to what actually works for me and it makes initial and repeated setup more difficult. Sure, sometimes it's spot on, but I'd rather just a bunch of quickly accessible knobs I can alter as I please to get dialed in. I hate clicking multiple buttons just to change a setting. Overall, Everlast obviously makes good machines for the money. Just saying I like a little more easy control. I'm far from an expert welder though.
If nobody got you the answer - Inductance is, in the case of welding, how quickly the machine ramps to full amperage when short-circuit welding. Without inductance, it's a fast, linear ramp. With inductance, the ramp takes a bit longer, and becomes curved - like a logarithmic function. It's an electrical characteristic of a circuit that resists changes in current, and is a quality of coils. A lower inductance can be useful for achieving narrower beads.
I totally agree with you on getting lazy with the settings, I worked at a place where we had parameters you had to stay in so I got uses to going to the book for settings and then got a job somewhere else and had a hell of a time trying to set-up my machine because I just couldn't remember what I had been welding at without the book.
I own a cyclone 200e, powertig 200dv and a powerplasma 50s from Everlast. They have been amazing. All of these models were dual voltage which was mostly the apeal for buying them but I do love the features they have for the price. Would love to try the newer versions of each
I didn't go through all the comments, but if it hasn't been mentioned or you haven't figured it out already. Along with correct tip size, and gases. Your inductance plays a big part in how much spatter you get. The lower it is the crisper your arc will be. The higher it is the softer it'll be. I run mine about 65-70%. Which also happens to be what Everlast suggests. I currently own the 212 and am seriously look'n to bring the 312 into the fold.
When uphill stick welding turn up youre heat. 1/4 inch to unlimited thickness 70 to 72 on the heat is perfect. Any thickness from 1/8 to 1/4 inch turn it down to about 68 or 70 on the heat.
Tay and the gang very nice job reviewing and very helpful video this week. Tanks so much. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on. Fab on. Weld on. Keep making. God Bless.
Have been gone from the channel for a bit and forgot how much I love Tay. Gotta get you guys in the rotation for my regular viewing. Thanks for the content.
I do like the dual feed rollers, most of the small machines in this price range have single feed rollers. Glad they provided you with a machine. Btw Black Dog Salvage was an awesome show and you guys did some incredible builds
after sifting through the comments I havent seen anyone try to explain inductance. It effects the wire burnback rate. generally the higher that arc voltage the higher you want the inductance. Regarding the autoset settings, as I tend to weld hot I find them typically close. If you weld colder it will generally be too hot and fast for your style.
I have the Cyclone 262 and not loving it , the power set function is close but seems to completely lack burnback. Let off the trigger at anything less than 1/8 and it leaves the wire fused into the end of the bead. Power Set also seems to be to low on inductance , it creates SO much spatter on all the power set settings they are useless. It does pretty good after a decent amount of fiddling the Manuel settings but still takes so much time to dial in that it's a pain in the rear.
Just found your channel 26FEB23 and watched the 4 hour clean out demo, pour and build. I grew up on a commercial hog farm in East Tennessee. Old Sows and Boars will find a loose bar and try to escape to go root around. I was stick welding at 12 welding 1" pipe onto lag bolts and 2" pipe to angle to keep the breeding stock in their pens.
What do you think about their smaller TIGs? I’m looking for one but a budget friendly one. I’ve heard mixed reviews on these and pretty much every other brand.
So I've seen a couple of your fab videos in the past (recently).. anyway I watched the 4 hour (or so) remodel of your new shop. It was great! So you know what? This rambling you just did, well it earned a sub from me. I'm going to follow you and I'll probably buy a shirt at least. Thank you for putting in the hard work. You've earned the chance to showcase these products from big manufacturers. If there's ever any welders you get you don't need, I'd love one hahah!!
Thank you for the video. If you put a spacer under the welder ,you would be able to open the door. Very nice heavy duty drive system and and Mig gun. Not and expert but it almost seems like you need to change your wire brand and check your 220 amperage at the plug. Just a suggestion. Great looking product. Thanks again
Mig splatter is normally caused by voltage being to high 18 t0 20 volts is a normal range. Have been certified to API 1104 Pipeline, ASME pressure welding and ASW Structural welding code with SAMW, Mig and Flux core. In addition I was responsible for developing and testing welding procedures for Mig process, SMAW process and flux core process to comply with API 1104 high pressure pipeline welding, ASME pressure vessel code and AWS structural welding codes. The Department of Transportation gave me a high marks for the welding procedures recording forms and filing. Also trained DOT inspectors for building pipeline, I work directly with Washington DOT.
Extremely humble, great video man. Throw a tester on it, and test the amps to see how accurate it is. We have a an old Miller at work that runs cold compared to our newer Lincolns. I have a small yes welder out in my garage, and can guarantee you it's not running the amps, that I set it to.
Have you tried checking your wire tension. I can affect your weld spatter. And are welders at work we is .052 wire, 27.5 to 28 v and run about 320 to 380 amps wire speed at 550 to 600 and we pretty much weld everything at that.
I tried out several multi process welders about five years ago when I was replacing an aging Hobart and found that everlast, Vulcan, etc were all not great. The miller mp211 and Lincoln mp215 were far better,and a thousand dollars more. I don’t have a lot of space and that drive my decision to go with a no 211 or mp215, demoed both at my local weld shop and came back a couple days later to buy either one honestly but left with the Lincoln. I’ve noticed one in the background of a couple of your videos but it’s not been shown in depth, I’m curious why?
I don't have a jog button on my mig welder and if I don't turn the gas on and I don't hook up the ground cable to anything I don't waste gas or strike an arc while feeding the wire through the cable.
This video was genuine. I have an everlast & it’s great but have the same issues with figuring out the settings & the pre set sucks . I have the cyclone 200ES. Does MIG FLUX & STICK But once you figure it out the thing is definitely worth the purchase for the price . Which has gone up drastically since last yr so get them while the price is still reasonable.
Everlast can't hold a candle to Primeweld products and service. I have been welding since 1971 and own a lot of equipment from many different manufacturers and Primeweld has become my number 1 for product and service
certain rods are made for specific polarity and AC Welding, and the first two or three stipulate the Tensile strength of the steel used in the core rod, the next digits are the type of coating and this infers it's ability to freeze and assist in bead appearance or trying to hang it overhead or traveling uphill. All low hydrogen rods like 7018 8018 are usually run with AC or reverse polarity (electrode negative) There is a science to this, as all sciences, it has to be learned.
About a decade ago when Everlast first came, I bought a plasma cutter that was good for up to five eights inch. If I remember correctly I put the 220 plug on it and honestly never used it only because I was a local truck driver and I worked many hours a day at the time it was a hell of a deal, I gave it to my nephew along with a Miller 130 that I had because he wanted to start doing some car work and building things for demolition cars. I should follow up to see how It works Honestly, I do love that cart that the new machine is in. I have a brother-in-law that lives over the Philippines that he’s just starting his own welding business. I might have to reach out to the company to see if they have brokers or sellers over there.
Just an amateur piping up here... My experience with stick is that it takes a hot minute to get used to every machine. I learned on a really badly underpowered buzz box. When I finally got hold of a decent stick welder it scared me a little at first. And I melted right through the part I was welding, because I was used to my machine.
thanks for being transparent about how you got started and the influences of being on you tube .and how many people who help you along the way ..im a tradesman myself and been flirting with putting some effort into a channel . all my customers and friends tell me to get a channel going so your info is awesome.thanks i only get a few hours off on sundays to learn about you tube .
@ 36:00 it sounds like it’s running nice 👍🏻 great vids! The stick portion, 44:50 it sounds like you should try switching the polarity like he said his trailblazer runs at. She sounds like it’s backwards, despite what the settings are telling you.
33:53 I'm a beginner and noticed your left hand is holding the neck like a pool cue (stick). Can you draw on paper what pattern your right hand is doing. Kinda looks like circles that overlap on the back side. Or if anyone else can answer the question. FUNNY NOTE: 39:40 I wanted to know why you blanked out his face haha. Thanks in advance
Yes,heat "amperage" and wire speed are proportional. I was a weldor fabricator for 30 years. I always adjusted my machine by sound and weld appearance. Never used presets. I do remember welding 16 gauge galvaneal about 16 or 17 amps.20 and above put way to much heat in the metal. Nozzle looks to big to me. Nozzle for .030 should taper down to tip. Big nozzle usually for running flux core gas.AL B.
I have a very similar welder at work and I like to run 475-525 inches per minute for wire and ours are measured in trim for power but I think it’s somewhere around 21 volts, and we run .035 wire so it might not run the same for you but you could give it a try
Welder unboxing video with a beer buzz is the greatest video ever, totally unscriped. I'm now a subscriber. I'm not sure why I've never come across this channel but, glad I did. Cheers 🍾
I wish I had waited one more year. I purchased the everlast221sti in2017 and the lightning came out a few months later. But my machine does everything I could ever want it to do.
i have the pleasure of being very close to everlasts shop. they are very nice and helpful when i decide to randomly walk in their door for something and i agree, their presets are always pretty far off from where it should be. hopefully they can change that in the future
Hi there. The inductance is what controls the crisp of the arc which when turned up it wets out the weld very effectively on thicker material for good penetration and lower settings will make it easier to weld thinner material. Hope this helps.
On the welder door around 18:00 -- Don't have to cut the door, just have to raise it up a few inches. Build a drawer to put under it. You're welcome.
That was one of the most genuine thank you's I have ever witnessed here on RUclips. You really are the American Dream, come to life. I am proud of you. Keep it going!!! Backing you 100%
altho under that MOW AHEAD sign i think he peed on his wall
Your "American Dream" is a man wearing finger nail polish. God this country has gone to crap. Sad to see.
Inductance is dig it will increase the amperage when the arc is being smothered by shorter arc length. 6010 is f3 group celluolocitic deep pen mild deposition fast freezing rod. 7018 is f4 group iron powder low hydrogen mild pen mild to heavy deposition rod. When testing it's very difficult to get an idea how it's running on such thin material as the arc characteristics will change so dramatically with the temp of the base metal. Also toss toss that .030 in the toy box where it belongs. Run .035 min even better run .045 er70s6 . Type of shielding gas is also huge factor for spatter and arc stability.
found your channel about 2 months ago , the dialog sounded interesting , so I continued to watch .FINALLY a no Bullshit builder who has a good time at his work , and pulls no punches about how he describes a project , and give a great amount of information as to how , and why a process is being used .! I am a 50 yr Carpenter union member with welding as a side hobby , Tay thank you for all you are showing us !
I have the Everlast Cyclone 212. It’s been an excellent machine but I have to agree about the powerset being off, it’s almost unusable once you get to 1/8th inch and above.. I’ve been running Lincoln Super Arc L-56, so I decided to check out they’re recommended settings for .030 wire, and they are almost spot on for this welder. I usually run it around 19v/280ipm for 1/8th inch with 60-80% inductance. Other than the powerset being off, I haven’t had a single problem with my 212 and I’ve had it for almost a year now. I had the Cyclone 200e before this one and it was also an excellent machine.
Regarding the 'difficult to access in gloves' front panel dust shield:
I found a deep socket of desired OD, put an extension on it for a handle and laid the socket portion in the factory finger detent. I then gently softened the area by the closed door detent with a heat gun and pushed the door closed over the socket radius. Took a couple of reheat tweaks to achieve the desired effect, but the mod looks OEM and works great. No more gloved hand vs. flat dust shield issues.
This is what youtube should be! I follow a few other people that started their own business and they have been kind enough to bring their audience along. And as someone that is trying to start my own business I really appreciate when you go over the business side of things.
Simply put Induction smooths out the arc while short arc mig welding. Some companies might call it dig control. Too much inductance can case the arc to be unstable and cause the weld to be porous, too little can cause the arc to be to hot and things burn up. Inductance controls the current rise every time the wire shorts out in the weld pool. Bob Moffit is cool.
Hi from VT 🍁! I’m definitely not in the target demographic for your channel and never would have thought I’d sit through 4 hours of anyone’s video but something about your spirit, sense of humor and joy in what you do is contagious and I keep coming back. Awesome job y’all
Thanks for the incredibly kind words! Happy to have you here! cheers - Tay
Re your problems with vertical-up welding with 7018 rod, around 45 minutes into the video. First, you can't manipulate 7018 with the whip-pause technique used for 6010. 7018 needs a steady travel speed with constant tight arc, that's why your arc kept going out when you tried to whip it like 6010. NOT a problem with the machine. Second, 7018 has a low-hydrogen flux that must be stored in a rod oven at about 350 F to prevent it from absorbing moisture from the air. Exposed to air for just a few hours at room temperature, the flux absorbs too much moisture and the rod will not burn properly. Low-hydrogen rods (7016, 7018, 7028) have inconvenient storage requirements, but they produce the highest quality weld metal, and best cosmetic appearance, of any SMAW electrode when used properly.
6010 is good for welding on rusty, dirty metal and for good penetration. 7018 is a low hydrogen wire. Keeps more of the unwanted gas in the weld. Cutting down on cracking, but you have to keep the flux dry. So better off in a rod oven to keep from getting porosity in the weld. In whitch you guys probably already know. So you get more comments.
6010 will not run very good on cheap welders. I used to weld High Pressure Steamlines and Natural Gas. 6010 first pass and consecutive passes with 7018.
I bought the everlast tig welder and have always been a big Miller guy. I based my purchase off of your work! I thank you for opening my eyes to this great machine!
Do you know what mate, I live in South Wales in the UK, and regularly watch your channel. You have had a free welder because your channel is great, and they know it, so grab them all with both arms because you deserve it. Keep going mate, Ignore any trolls, and keep doing the videos. I have a CNC plasma table in my home workshop, which is why I started watching you, and enjoy every video. You should make more of them. Have you thought of selling/sharing your DXF files. Thanks Dai
Youre the best! Thank you so much for the kind words, definitely encouraging to hear! We'll keep at it! cheers - Tay
For 6010/6011 you probably have to switch to high cellulose mode. Not all inverters can run those rods, but I believe everlast has a high cellulose setting.
From what I've read, too much spatter can also be a polarity issue when MIG welding.
Also, when stick welding, usually it's the rod who dictates the polarity and not the machine.
So maybe the machine has a firmware bug there, but you could simply just test it yourself, and plug it the other way around, or as you would plug the miller, for instance.
It should not harm the machine, I think. It would just work better or worse
Welder/fitter here. We run pretty much everything from 3/16ths to half inch at 24/440 to 26/475. We use Miller 251's and 252's so the Everlast may be different but your running way to cold. The sound should be like frying bacon. The only time we run 16-18 volts is when were doing sheet metal.
Just to let you know, I have followed Lift Arc Studios everywhere y’all put out content. I actually really want to learn how to weld and the amount of know how and knowledge that you all have is totally awesome! You are living the dream and you’re extremely fortunate to have everything you’ve got in your life Tae! ❤
High inductance will give you a nice buttery weld puddle that's easy to manipulate and wet in the toes. Low inductance will make a stiffer narrower puddle that will leave a taller thinner bead. You want to do "mig like tig"? You want high inductance. It really changes the personality of the welder
Great to see another product review and a fair assessment. As for the spatter…you might try keeping the MIG torch angled between 5° to 15° from vertical. This allows the shielding gas produced by the gun to envelop the weld area and protect it from contamination. If you hold the torch at an angle of 20° or more, it will push the gas to one side of the weld and cause the puddle to spatter. And of course material dimensions and form play a role in this technique.
You make great videos and your love of the craft really shows. That's why we're watching :)
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I'm avoiding that machine
Glad I found your site. Just starting this the same as you. I'm an old school welder learning these new machines. So happy I'm not the only one on this learning curve.
It just shows you how much that you have put into your shop and your information is great for us viewers. I am just a part time guy that enjoys seeing the sparks fly. LOL Thanks for all that you do for this channel and I will still watch every post that you put on the tube!
Great Job Everlast! That is how you react when you care about your customers.
What a classy intro Tay , your success is the result of you being you, along with hard work and honesty . I'm an avid viewer of your channel . How you are only sitting a 28k subs is beyond me .
Clean the scale off of what your welding helps with weld spatter. You need more heat,ignore the presets
6010 is an all position, cellulose deep penetrating quick freeze rod generally used as a root pass in pipe fitting. 7018 is an all position, low hydrogen rod and is a high strength high deposit rod used after the 6010 for hot pass, fill and cap passes. 6010 works wet, not afraid of water. It can actually be too dry. 7018 has to be dry stored in an oven. Polarity is important dc electrode positive like flux core. The opposite of mig and tig.
I love my everlast dc inverter all in one welder. 8yrs still going strong plus two of my buddies bought them and also love them.
if you get the machine higher up in the cart (if you put something beneath the machine basically) remove the handle and get it closer to the wooden shelf, maybe you could then open the door because of the arched tube from the cart. i don't know if i explained it well, but i think it wouldn't hurt to try. ;)
I love this channel, it's a great mix of tech, builds, and great humor. I discovered it about 2 months ago and did the deep dive, I have now watched all of them. It's awesome to see the progress and success you have had. Keep it up and we will stay along for the ride!
I have three welding machines. A MillerTrailblazer 325, a Lincoln 210MP, and an Everlast 210EXT. I’ll admit that I’m a Miller guy, even though when I started welding I thought I was a Lincoln guy. And now that I’m rambling I’ll just say it. Everlast makes a damn nice machine. I really enjoy running it in TIG mode in my garage. In straight DC TIG I’d say my Trailblazer is much better but that does not take away from the joy that running the Everlast brings me. It’s a smooth running machine that welds better than I’m capable of putting down. I hate to say it, but my Lincoln doesn’t bring me joy. 😂
Edit: and I just realized this video is a year old and I’m late to the conversation.
Don't cut the door of the welder.
Just take top handle off and lift the welder 4 inches and the door will clear the frame
Could also notch/modify the tubes to accept the welder. It is a metal fab shop.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 “yes I painted my nails a while ago! Get over it!!” Literally as I was wonder why you painted them. Couldn’t have been perfect timing. Absolutely love how you are direct and honest. Keep at it brother.
Tay, we support you because of how real and down to earth you are. You earned this.
Many thanks friend!
I’m an occasional welder. If it stays stuck on the hottest August days thats good enough. I got the 211 I think. MiG and stick. Easy to use- great welds. I recommend this everlast without reservation. Best for the price and best at any price.
I’m fairly new to your channel but, I keep tuning in. You don’t take yourself too seriously but, you run a fan shop so your opinion does hold some weight. You’re easy to listen to and you and your team actually provide some pretty useful advice! Everlast have been really smart with their marketing by sending out a heap of machines to different people to get, and keep, their name out in the industry. What you do works for them and, hopefully, their products work for you. Keep it coming!
So I originally skipped the stick part because I spend most of my time doing MIG/TIG. But this video came up on my feed again and I watched through the stick part. Not a pro welder either but I'd like to point out:
38:38/44:00 Jake's not wrong - Typically, celluosic electrodes E6010/E6011 is run DCEP (DC Electrode Positive). Rutile electrodes like E6012/E6013 are typically run DCEN (DC Electrode Negative).
However, for 6011, it can be run DCEP/DCEN/AC without issue. DCEN is recommended for 6011 when working on thinner base metals to prevent over-penetration as it tends to run really aggressively.
7018 tends to not like DCEN. 7018 runs better DCEP/AC - which makes sense why it was running poorly if you left it DCEN like it wanted you to set it as.
Inductance stiffens and softens your welding arc. So if you have it set at a low number typically you will get a taller / narrower weld profile. Set to a higher number you will get a flatter / wider weld profile. If you want to set it and forget it, setting it in the middle usually works good. I personally set it in the middle or at about 75%
Inductance is a property of coils and transformers. On an old school transformer welder, the big coil of the transformer results in a very high inductance but on an inverter, it uses a tiny transformer with quite low inherent inductance and uses a digital controller and transistors and/or MOSFETs to control the output waveform but here, you can modify the waveform to simulate the effect of higher or lower inductance. In general, a higher inductance means that the start is a bit softer as the inductance resists the increase in current flow, but once lit, high inductance causes current in the arc to stay more steady and constant. Most people never use this setting, but if you are used to your old Miller transformer welder, you can crank the inductance to make it feel similar...
Inductance and/or arc force is a term that is a setting dial on the dc welder. It makes the weld puddle either “fast freezing” at the lower setting or “more liquid” at the higher setting. When welding uphill you want the puddle to fast freeze. If you are welding stick/ SMAW and your rod keeps sticking to the base metal, turning the arc force up will solve that problem. Likewise if your welding pipe and welding the root pass, weld cellulose rods (those ending with a zero,6010,8010 etc.) downhill. If you turn up the arc force the molten metal right at the land of the bevel will surround the rod with little to no light/or arc being emitted. This is called a “Texas keyhole”. Drag the rod downhand keeping enough rod push that the weld puddle is being deposited interior of the pipe bevel. These machines with Inductance/Arc Force settings have been the backbone for oil field work for years.
Congratulations to videographer, the video colors are sharp.👍
Guys, I am new to the channel, but the arc feature ( once you get use to it ) on my 256S is better than my 200amp Lincoln. I am betting those rods set around in the shop and took on moisture and need replaced and keep in dry storage. If you don't own an oven, find a used small ice box (Curb fine) and install a 60-100 light bulb in it. Your rods will love you for it (@@)! Also, Everlast has one of the best support teams out there. I have only need them twice, but spot on. At 70 I want be buying any more welders, but If I did, it would be an Everlast for sure. Bear in TX.
Hi, you can reduce spatter by increasing the inductance, this reduces the curcuit dip frequency hence less metal being banged in at a time
I recently took a welding class at the local maker space and began watching RUclips videos.. and your channel got recommended. I recognized Tay immediately from the TV series and I was hooked watching your first video with the $226 Vevor unit. This is a great video with what feels like your honest opinion about the Everlast unit. You also admitted when you didn't completely understand the unit and what you needed to learn. I'll be back!! Keep up the great videos and giving us your honest feedback, Cheers!
So I went out to my garage and got my everlast cyclone 200e set up for some 1/8” thick tubing and ran some passes on the auto set feature. At 241IPM and 18.7 V, it does great as long as I do what I’m supposed to do. Idk why the settings would be much different on yours??
“Was like the arc was cutting out” I JUST WANNA SCREAM ITS THE GODDAMN POLARITY! I have 2 everlast welders they are great and I guess unless you are a pipe welder you cannot weld with stick SMH lol
My thoughts exactly... 😆 🤣
INDUCTANCE What is Inductance? Inductance controls how fast the current rises to reach the amps that have been selected when short circuit welding. Short circuit welding is a type of metal transfer in which the wire connects with the puddle and literally shorts the circuit.
Tay, place your Everlast Cyclone welder on a 2x10 (or however wide your welder is) to lift it up slightly off the shelf of your cart. That will give you some additional clearance between the mig wire access door and the frame of the cart.
Smart!
i also have had a Millermatic212 for the last 10years & its Absolutely a crutch. Autoset is fair but doesnt allow for presicse adjustment. on the other hand it makes the "Weldor" compensate where the "Welder" comes up short.
Good to see honest reviews Good or Bad and your comments while testing!
Doesn't the 260 have a memory to save any of the settings you like for welding different thicknesses and type of materials.
I tend to call the difficulty in first welds on the unit as honeymoon period. You and the equipment just married, it was arranged in a sense... As long as you are qualifying it all, which you have, it's all good. If you are going to try and capture a lot of welding, I'd add a flip down 'helmet' for the camera lens. And since this was a year ago, you've probably done so.... Have you done a 1 year anniv review? That works well w content. Re-Reviewing if it's valid, not just to fill time.
You said the rods were old so it might be that they have too much moisture in them. Once the cans opened they should be put into an oven
Well said, Tay. You are one of the few who truly understands business and fabrication. Thank you for sharing the Everlast story and for thanking the viewers.
Capt. Art
well i loved watching black dog salvage because i like your dad find uses for old items in different ways so thats how i found your channel and i really enjoy restoring old buildings so that why you have my support just remember your viewers are those hard working blue collar folks that don't have time for bs reviews if you get something and try it don't sugar coat reviews for the big companies
It’s funny you complain about splatter, but ask what inductance is.
Inductance is basically splatter control. In a way it’s a frequency setting. Fine tuning in a way. The higher it is, the less splatter. But hotter pool.
It basically controls how often the short circuit takes place.
I have two tig mma miller welders from the small to the biggest you can get, great and fantastic welders ever. I also have a mig that is 35 years old unknown make just know British made, it still welds like the day it was new, cost way less than blue red or green.
Keep putting one foot in front of the other Tay for you are following the right path. I enjoy the content this channel puts out and always like to see some down to earth real people doing their thing. Keep up the good work.
Your gratitude is impressive Tay. As is your candor and talent. Keep it up mate.
I have a 140e. You can fine tune auto set point wire speed and voltage settings slightly but only within a certain amount. I still prefer manual control. What’s nice is they limit voltage by wire size. Overall I’m really impressed with mine for the price
I love my 140e never given me any problems once I got it set right for what I’m doing
My biggest problem with the digital welders I've tried is that the presets are really all over the place compared to what actually works for me and it makes initial and repeated setup more difficult. Sure, sometimes it's spot on, but I'd rather just a bunch of quickly accessible knobs I can alter as I please to get dialed in. I hate clicking multiple buttons just to change a setting. Overall, Everlast obviously makes good machines for the money. Just saying I like a little more easy control. I'm far from an expert welder though.
If nobody got you the answer -
Inductance is, in the case of welding, how quickly the machine ramps to full amperage when short-circuit welding. Without inductance, it's a fast, linear ramp. With inductance, the ramp takes a bit longer, and becomes curved - like a logarithmic function.
It's an electrical characteristic of a circuit that resists changes in current, and is a quality of coils. A lower inductance can be useful for achieving narrower beads.
Regarding the power-set mode. Check the actual wire feed speed VS the reading. If it is off as mine was, it will throw off everything.
I totally agree with you on getting lazy with the settings, I worked at a place where we had parameters you had to stay in so I got uses to going to the book for settings and then got a job somewhere else and had a hell of a time trying to set-up my machine because I just couldn't remember what I had been welding at without the book.
I own a cyclone 200e, powertig 200dv and a powerplasma 50s from Everlast. They have been amazing. All of these models were dual voltage which was mostly the apeal for buying them but I do love the features they have for the price. Would love to try the newer versions of each
I didn't go through all the comments, but if it hasn't been mentioned or you haven't figured it out already. Along with correct tip size, and gases. Your inductance plays a big part in how much spatter you get. The lower it is the crisper your arc will be. The higher it is the softer it'll be. I run mine about 65-70%. Which also happens to be what Everlast suggests. I currently own the 212 and am seriously look'n to bring the 312 into the fold.
Holding a beer in one hand and a knife in the other at the same time, now that's a good recommendation for review expertise and credibility.
When uphill stick welding turn up youre heat. 1/4 inch to unlimited thickness 70 to 72 on the heat is perfect. Any thickness from 1/8 to 1/4 inch turn it down to about 68 or 70 on the heat.
Tay and the gang very nice job reviewing and very helpful video this week. Tanks so much. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on. Fab on. Weld on. Keep making. God Bless.
Have been gone from the channel for a bit and forgot how much I love Tay. Gotta get you guys in the rotation for my regular viewing. Thanks for the content.
I do like the dual feed rollers, most of the small machines in this price range have single feed rollers. Glad they provided you with a machine.
Btw Black Dog Salvage was an awesome show and you guys did some incredible builds
after sifting through the comments I havent seen anyone try to explain inductance. It effects the wire burnback rate. generally the higher that arc voltage the higher you want the inductance. Regarding the autoset settings, as I tend to weld hot I find them typically close. If you weld colder it will generally be too hot and fast for your style.
I have the Cyclone 262 and not loving it , the power set function is close but seems to completely lack burnback. Let off the trigger at anything less than 1/8 and it leaves the wire fused into the end of the bead. Power Set also seems to be to low on inductance , it creates SO much spatter on all the power set settings they are useless. It does pretty good after a decent amount of fiddling the Manuel settings but still takes so much time to dial in that it's a pain in the rear.
Just found your channel 26FEB23 and watched the 4 hour clean out demo, pour and build. I grew up on a commercial hog farm in East Tennessee. Old Sows and Boars will find a loose bar and try to escape to go root around. I was stick welding at 12 welding 1" pipe onto lag bolts and 2" pipe to angle to keep the breeding stock in their pens.
What do you think about their smaller TIGs? I’m looking for one but a budget friendly one. I’ve heard mixed reviews on these and pretty much every other brand.
So I've seen a couple of your fab videos in the past (recently).. anyway I watched the 4 hour (or so) remodel of your new shop. It was great! So you know what? This rambling you just did, well it earned a sub from me. I'm going to follow you and I'll probably buy a shirt at least. Thank you for putting in the hard work. You've earned the chance to showcase these products from big manufacturers. If there's ever any welders you get you don't need, I'd love one hahah!!
Thank you for the video. If you put a spacer under the welder ,you would be able to open the door. Very nice heavy duty drive system and and Mig gun. Not and expert but it almost seems like you need to change your wire brand and check your 220 amperage at the plug. Just a suggestion. Great looking product. Thanks again
Mig splatter is normally caused by voltage being to high 18 t0 20 volts is a normal range. Have been certified to API 1104 Pipeline, ASME pressure welding and ASW Structural welding code with SAMW, Mig and Flux core. In addition I was responsible for developing and testing welding procedures for Mig process, SMAW process and flux core process to comply with API 1104 high pressure pipeline welding, ASME pressure vessel code and AWS structural welding codes. The Department of Transportation gave me a high marks for the welding procedures recording forms and filing. Also trained DOT inspectors for building pipeline, I work directly with Washington DOT.
Extremely humble, great video man. Throw a tester on it, and test the amps to see how accurate it is. We have a an old Miller at work that runs cold compared to our newer Lincolns. I have a small yes welder out in my garage, and can guarantee you it's not running the amps, that I set it to.
Have you tried checking your wire tension. I can affect your weld spatter. And are welders at work we is .052 wire, 27.5 to 28 v and run about 320 to 380 amps wire speed at 550 to 600 and we pretty much weld everything at that.
what is the brand of 90 deg clamp you use for holding parts when welding ?
I tried out several multi process welders about five years ago when I was replacing an aging Hobart and found that everlast, Vulcan, etc were all not great. The miller mp211 and Lincoln mp215 were far better,and a thousand dollars more.
I don’t have a lot of space and that drive my decision to go with a no 211 or mp215, demoed both at my local weld shop and came back a couple days later to buy either one honestly but left with the Lincoln.
I’ve noticed one in the background of a couple of your videos but it’s not been shown in depth, I’m curious why?
I don't have a jog button on my mig welder and if I don't turn the gas on and I don't hook up the ground cable to anything I don't waste gas or strike an arc while feeding the wire through the cable.
This video was genuine. I have an everlast & it’s great but have the same issues with figuring out the settings & the pre set sucks . I have the cyclone 200ES. Does MIG FLUX & STICK But once you figure it out the thing is definitely worth the purchase for the price . Which has gone up drastically since last yr so get them while the price is still reasonable.
One youtuber to another wonderful video
Everlast can't hold a candle to Primeweld products and service. I have been welding since 1971 and own a lot of equipment from many different manufacturers and Primeweld has become my number 1 for product and service
I was interested in buying their mig 285 and have had no luck with them returning emails on technical questions.
certain rods are made for specific polarity and AC Welding, and the first two or three stipulate the Tensile strength of the steel used in the core rod, the next digits are the type of coating and this infers it's ability to freeze and assist in bead appearance or trying to hang it overhead or traveling uphill. All low hydrogen rods like 7018 8018 are usually run with AC or reverse polarity (electrode negative) There is a science to this, as all sciences, it has to be learned.
Bob Moffet is THE welding guru 🤘👍
Great vid guys, you have some fun hours of learning ahead enjoy ✌️
He also does a brilliant and totally simple explanation into inductance settings
You are a good dude like your father. That's why you succeed.
About a decade ago when Everlast first came, I bought a plasma cutter that was good for up to five eights inch. If I remember correctly I put the 220 plug on it and honestly never used it only because I was a local truck driver and I worked many hours a day at the time it was a hell of a deal, I gave it to my nephew along with a Miller 130 that I had because he wanted to start doing some car work and building things for demolition cars. I should follow up to see how It works Honestly, I do love that cart that the new machine is in. I have a brother-in-law that lives over the Philippines that he’s just starting his own welding business. I might have to reach out to the company to see if they have brokers or sellers over there.
Just an amateur piping up here... My experience with stick is that it takes a hot minute to get used to every machine. I learned on a really badly underpowered buzz box. When I finally got hold of a decent stick welder it scared me a little at first. And I melted right through the part I was welding, because I was used to my machine.
thanks for being transparent about how you got started and the influences of being on you tube .and how many people who help you along the way ..im a tradesman myself and been flirting with putting some effort into a channel . all my customers and friends tell me to get a channel going so your info is awesome.thanks i only get a few hours off on sundays to learn about you tube .
I own a Everlast PowerPRO 256 which I've had for 10 years, and other than an occasional hi-freq start issue it has been bullet-proof.
Awesome story dude!!!! i love hearing stories like this! You can do anything you set your mind to!!
@ 36:00 it sounds like it’s running nice 👍🏻 great vids! The stick portion, 44:50 it sounds like you should try switching the polarity like he said his trailblazer runs at. She sounds like it’s backwards, despite what the settings are telling you.
Polarity backwards 100%
Inductance is the tendency of an electrical conductor to oppose a change in the electric current flowing through it.
33:53 I'm a beginner and noticed your left hand is holding the neck like a pool cue (stick).
Can you draw on paper what pattern your right hand is doing.
Kinda looks like circles that overlap on the back side.
Or if anyone else can answer the question.
FUNNY NOTE: 39:40 I wanted to know why you blanked out his face haha.
Thanks in advance
Yes,heat "amperage" and wire speed are proportional. I was a weldor fabricator for 30 years. I always adjusted my machine by sound and weld appearance. Never used presets. I do remember welding 16 gauge galvaneal about 16 or 17 amps.20 and above put way to much heat in the metal. Nozzle looks to big to me. Nozzle for .030 should taper down to tip. Big nozzle usually for running flux core gas.AL B.
I have both an everlast i-Mig 200 and 210ext. Both have been rock solid badass machines.
I have a very similar welder at work and I like to run 475-525 inches per minute for wire and ours are measured in trim for power but I think it’s somewhere around 21 volts, and we run .035 wire so it might not run the same for you but you could give it a try
That’s really low for 0.35 wire with that wire feed. We were running 27-29V for that range for 3/8-1/2” structural welds
Welder unboxing video with a beer buzz is the greatest video ever, totally unscriped. I'm now a subscriber. I'm not sure why I've never come across this channel but, glad I did. Cheers 🍾
I wish I had waited one more year. I purchased the everlast221sti in2017 and the lightning came out a few months later. But my machine does everything I could ever want it to do.
i have the pleasure of being very close to everlasts shop. they are very nice and helpful when i decide to randomly walk in their door for something
and i agree, their presets are always pretty far off from where it should be. hopefully they can change that in the future