Dude, you keep calling for Kenshi nerfs but how is it that its tournament pickrate is so low? I love your content but I strongly disagree on your kenshi's opinions. If Kenshi needs a nerf then johnny, Raiden and ashrah all need to be nerfed beforehand
If you are talking about fun to play against then I agree. Still tho many people have very little knowledge about when to attack or to armor or to backdash against sento stance. On top of this, Kenshi gets bodied vs johnny and Raiden and has also a bad ashrah matchup
@@lamboronald489just cause a character doesn’t get picked in tournaments doesn’t mean they don’t need a nerf; and u must be a kenshi main.. u basically can’t armor out of sento stance (u can but has to be quite literally perfect), u have to sit there n block for about 16 seconds which stills gets u a lot of chip damage on top of which the kenshi player gets hella meter so he can js keep recalling sento n his range is insane any conversion he gets he’s going into sento stance, and on top of getting 50+% combos every hit he has mix in sento stance. to say he doesn’t need a nerf is actually absurd. i don’t want him to get nerfed cause he’s fun to play with but if he doesn’t get nerfed then they need to buff everyone instead of nerfing also literally most characters if not all have bad matchups against johnny and raiden ☠️
@@lamboronald489yeah i’m really sorry dude but your opinion is horrid 😭 everyone in the community agrees kenshi n jc need to be nerfed first. i genuinely don’t know how u can sit here n basically say kenshi doesn’t need a nerf when he quite obviously does. if you’re not a kenshi main then you must’ve never fought an actual good kenshi lmao
@@Shamg0dddnope. My point was valid and making sense. Youd only make him broken. If you want Shao to have a good mid, they better give Kitana an overhead as well. My character has no mixups.
@@Chabells_MK so you don't want Shao to have a mid because your main character doesn't have mix? A character doesn't need mix to be good but having a mid is essential. Kitana is already good your argument is invalid.
Diffff wasssup love the content never stop pls your the 2nd best scorp I’ve seen i think all of us will agree with this comment also fuck kenshi that was personal but I feel you
interesting how theyre asking about how to beat reptile but not subzero ? still downplaying that character is crazy. there are 3 reptiles in top 100 and 6 ( 3 in top 20) sub-zeros in top 100 ...
Kung lao on his own is honesty one of the weakest characters but with goro he becomes S to A. Everything becomes a guess and you really can’t react. But what balances that team out is resource management. Cause once he runs out of goro he’s crap. Also I like the rain placement, tired of people saying he’s low tier.
Yeah you don’t actually see a lot of rain in low tier play apparently people think he’s too complicated or intimidating to learn from what ketchup said and I kinda agree I hardly run into low level rain players and when I have they would really just be using the kameo and d2 all the time and a few strings but he is high tier because all his moves are safe the only things that are punishable are his specials he also only has 3 gaps in total with all of his strings really safe character but he does struggle a lot in the mid range because his projectiles are slow and all his strings don’t reach when your in mid range you just hope the opponent runs into the last hit of the string and he’s really limited with kameos with sub really being the only good one for him so really only two bad weaknesses
He’s good with Khameleon too, f2,1 into Mileena overhead is solid mixup and you can start doing the overhead before the low when they adapt, Khameleon also gives him consistent 35-40% combos if you can get the air Khameleon juggles down, he still has the Kara Grab which gives him Brownie points, and he’s got that anti air special. I personally don’t like his zoning though, he has more zoning tools than most characters and yet they’re trash, you’ll get out zoned by most other characters, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Geras, Reiko, Kitana, etc, Reiko’s stars still go through his projectile shield.
I think Kenshi was one of the first characters made and then they subconsciously made their standards lowered with other characters. (Other than Johnny)
I think kenshi is going to be difficult to balance, mainly due to how awful he is without sento stance. Kenshi has extremely weak combos without sento stance, usually around 25% with bar whilst most the cast can get so much more using meter, but his pressure with sento active is way too strong. You can very easily get 45% from one touch, but you have nothing without sento. No idea how theyre going to fix that
@@yaasmiynbrown7095 i dont think that will help too much. Shorter time wont change the fact that he has a meterless 45% and wont change how oppressive sento is, he just has to unsummon faster
honestly i think li mei is just played wrong, stagger to get people to do d1s a lot then punish w her special move for crazy dmg and then micro duck or d1 back when they do s1 and thats her whole gameplan tbh
@@rainyzzz_1235 yes but consistently reacting and getting a kombo off of that is tuff. It’s also a bit costly, hence why her win condition is a lot tougher than others imo
@@LiterallyPaulGeorge never said it was easy, but it isnt rly that difficult its the same as punishing peoples d1s w ur d1 except ur j doing a special move, and its not costly at all cuz u can get a 40-50 percent combo w scorpion w 1 bar just off punishing a d1 and by the time ur done w the combo youve regend like half the bar
@@h4ns_1 dial-ins are only “bad” if they whiff badly on jumpers though. strings being dial in is most of the time a downside but I disagree Mileena is in that boat. Case in point, Liu kangs dial-in B124 in MK11 was one of his best strings because it was very good at picking up jumpers and U really had to play like an idiot to make it whiff badly. Thar aside, 12 being death on flawless block is far worse, she’s not that great as people would tell you 💀
@@sammythijs8641 dial-in strings are one of the worst NRS design decisions EVER. Like whats the point to take away control from the player? For what? Its downside with Mileena cause its almost impossible to hitconfirm into anything and her kit is bad in general. Her other advancing move - F2 is 18 frames on startup. Like, what? 18 frames? Adn its a HIGH. Ed, are you serious? Like i said, Mileena is terrible and she needs even more than Quan-level buffs: confirmable 2-3 hit mid string, full screen projectile, 12 should be safe no matter what, more plus frames. I'm tired being handicaped in every match so i'd probably start maining someone else. If Ed Boon hates her so much he could just delete her from MK forever.
@@h4ns_1 not saying you’re wrong but F1 really aint that bad imo, 12, f24 are arguably worse 💀 that being said, My first main was Nitara before picking up Mileena. Given how trash Nitara is i’m probably just upplaying Mileena 🥲 Not playing top tiers feels rewarding though, if it works out. Also not to dump on you but, set up your opponent to randomly block your f1 string and practice the hitconfirm. You’ll find that the window to confirm into ball roll after the first 2 hits is very generous. I never mess it up, even in the worst connections, and I really suck at single button confirms.
If Kenshi was unable to flawless block or upblock with his stance out, and if his sento stance was easier to flawless block, I think we'd see better matchups.
Ive always been confused on why everyone says kenshi is top 1 but we rarely see him in tournaments WINNING them. I could be wrong so by all means correct me if i am, but i feel like hes one of the characters that people are afraid of and just put him in top 1
That’s because the mortal Kombat community is stupid - and Kenshi was never S tier at all. He’s basically all skill no derp which is what this meta is about . Yes, most people just complain about damage and Sento sandwich - but it’s nothing compared to Cage/Lao or Raiden/Kano for example
I think it’s because he’s to variable, when u play Johnny your strong the whole game but Kenshi is only very strong when sento is out and their sandwiched
Kenshi definitely behind sindel, raiden, Jhonny, tanya, and ashrah. Because he only good when he land a hit and his neutral are not the best and no mix ups and no kameo to keep safe while all the other characters are cheap with good plus frame and kameo to keep safe. That’s how I feel when I play against them, and I’m a shao main
It’s not round over - there are gaps sometimes and you can Ex through them. Happens all the time - plus Kenshi players mis-time him always since he’s so finicky to use
@@djcrazy941026 I wouldn’t say it’s over but u getting 40% and he still has half pf sento but there are gaps u can ex or be able to block then he doesn’t have sento and is the worst character in the game
Damn this my first ranking video I’ve seen and being a sindel and smoke main atm im kinda upset someone thinks she’s top tier, not because im mad she top tier but I was trying to stay away from top tiers and I don’t play her like a top tier 😂
A mid is a attack where you hit the middle of the opponent Neutral Means the middle of the match or round like when you characters first start in the match Whiff means when you use a unsafe special move or unsafe combo string (btw combo strings means the string of buttons you press) If you miss the string or special move then basically means you miss and the opponent can punish you for it wit a better move or counter special move
Maybe it's the matchup with Li Mei against scorpion but scorpion/Stryker actually feels like a really solid team id put in a tier especially online. Whenever i play Javier or Murko (who used lao though) online i have to play extremly cautious because the spear basically becomes instant and so does the teleport and you can never punish it because stryker makes it safe and even plus if they conditioned me into not trying to armor out. His anti air is insanely good, he has great range normals, his d3 poke is awesome, he has arguably the best jumpkick after johnny and his movement is insane. But his optimal playstyle is extremly boring as you only runaway the whole game which is why i ultimately dropped him
I think if you learned how to play kenshi and understand all his frames in his stances you’d say that Johnny was better. I main both characters and kenshi is much easier to counter if you know what’s going on. I don’t have an issue fighting other kenshis. I will still get fucked up by other Johnnys all day lol
Totally agree, Johnny’s pressure/ being able to poke out of stuff most other characters can’t, fatal blow, free star power, 1 frame parry… I’d rather fight Kenshi any day lol
Man I fckn hate the spot they put kenshi in. The first character I ever played in any mortal kombat game is kenshi back in mkx so I really want to play him. But now i feel scummy if I play him cuz he's so good so I'll leave him until he is nerfed🤷♂️
Maaan I get Down-1 into combo going against Scorpions how tf that make sense. Sware they need to fix a lot of stuff in this game that I’ve noticed that makes it even more like ugh damn this shit again
The problem is with mk1 is nrs are an incompetent studio that created a broken environement that doesnt allow nerfs and buffs and of either both throws everything out balance
i am a mileena main and i completely disagree with her placement? shes easily A tier with lao as her kameo, she has amazing damage/“meterless or meter burn without kameo” she can do amazing setups with lao, one of the fastest standing 1 in the game and one of the fastest pokes, she has mix ups and could deal Amazingg pressure, her enhanced air roll is very fast, she can punish every projectile in the game using ball roll ,i went 100-7 this kl season using only mileena, shes just needs a good mid starter, but overall shes amazing and people are missing out on her tbh
I disagree with a lot of things you’re saying. Most importantly though, 1. You made this tier list from the perspective of a scorpion player. You should have spoke on how the entire cast deals with a character not just scorpion.if you’re gonna do that you should’ve just made a scorpion matchup tier list. 2. If you don’t know about a character instead of placing the character where everyone else places them, make a idk tier. I would’ve respected your opinion much more if you would have done that
L take on Kenshi ngl if a player is good with Kenshi give him the props he or she deserves, he put in a LOT of time cause this character doesnt take 50 mins to learn in practice mode like Johnny
scorpion's mid is trash but subs is too. its 15 frames and can only lead to mixup with kameos. at least with scorpion mid you can cancel into DB3 + stryker and you're plus
Shao is absolutely better than geras & omni man. Farther buttons, better anti-air’s, better mix, and about the same damage. Geras’s breaker & omni man’s staggers are the only thing they have over shao.
One mid and its in awful dial-in string, no plus frames, no mixups, WORST projectile in the game, WORST armoured move in the game, special moves are super punishable on block, no overhead or low starters, no setups or gimmick strats (like combo from throws). Her jab string is PUNISHABLE if flawless blocked and that thing alone is more than enough to put her into bottom tiers. So how in the Netherrealm she's "better than that"? Shes bottom 5 and i know what i'm talking about, i'm a loyal Mileena main since day 1. And please, dont bring "bUt DaMaGe" argument. Your damage doesnt matter if you cant open up your opponent.
Please back your Kenshi claims with results. For as much as y'all belly ache about him, Ive yet to see him win anything on or offline.Its funny you say Kenshi players downplay, cause the ppl that complain about him, can't execute with him to lab properly 😂
Please don’t go there with that Ego foolishness🤨😐😑 clearly you weren’t the one listening… Diff was explaining that characters in Fighting Games shouldn’t have ALL Archetypes supporting them. - Zoning (Overhead Sento, safe at distance) - Rushdown attack making him immune to projectiles(run attack) - Sento stance already makes him the only puppeteer - His forward 2,2 string is annoying cause it’s safe and pushes you away. Explain why Kenshi needs all of that And of course Kenshi wouldn’t win anything when there’s JOHNNY, Ashrah and Sindel players giving Kenshi a run for his money 😑. - And not being able to lab Kenshi is a dumb statement. When there’s more complex characters like Shang, Havik, Quan, Geras. I used Kenshi(I’m a SHANG Main)…he ain’t hard at all😂💯 most Kenshi mains only use 1 character😒
Raiden is only cheap amongst lower rank levels. Once you get to the higher level (demi/elder god) the gimmick like kano sektor etc dont work unless you use them the right way. This is why you dont see Raiden winning tourneys you have to actually know how to play the game. Sindel, Johnny, Kenshi are still broken. People say Sindel is only broken with kameos well no s*** the game is kameo based there is no such thing as fighting without them so quit comparing characters without mentioning kameos and quit making tierlists without kameos
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Dude, you keep calling for Kenshi nerfs but how is it that its tournament pickrate is so low? I love your content but I strongly disagree on your kenshi's opinions. If Kenshi needs a nerf then johnny, Raiden and ashrah all need to be nerfed beforehand
If you are talking about fun to play against then I agree. Still tho many people have very little knowledge about when to attack or to armor or to backdash against sento stance. On top of this, Kenshi gets bodied vs johnny and Raiden and has also a bad ashrah matchup
@@lamboronald489just cause a character doesn’t get picked in tournaments doesn’t mean they don’t need a nerf; and u must be a kenshi main.. u basically can’t armor out of sento stance (u can but has to be quite literally perfect), u have to sit there n block for about 16 seconds which stills gets u a lot of chip damage on top of which the kenshi player gets hella meter so he can js keep recalling sento n his range is insane any conversion he gets he’s going into sento stance, and on top of getting 50+% combos every hit he has mix in sento stance.
to say he doesn’t need a nerf is actually absurd. i don’t want him to get nerfed cause he’s fun to play with but if he doesn’t get nerfed then they need to buff everyone instead of nerfing
also literally most characters if not all have bad matchups against johnny and raiden ☠️
@@lamboronald489yeah i’m really sorry dude but your opinion is horrid 😭 everyone in the community agrees kenshi n jc need to be nerfed first. i genuinely don’t know how u can sit here n basically say kenshi doesn’t need a nerf when he quite obviously does. if you’re not a kenshi main then you must’ve never fought an actual good kenshi lmao
@@wackonasthey need to nerf sento a little.; but without sento kenshi is mid .
bro didnt even bother talking about johnny cage lmao
Pretty sad that most characters haven't really moved much since launch
20:06 why was this so much louder than the rest of the video 😭
We need more videossss DIFFFFFF, always happy to see a new diff video on my feed
We need more Shang mains over here🥹 Khameleon makes him so fun man!
Yeah completely agree with where you put Shao all he needs is a better Mid because he loses against anyone who mashes on him
100% agree that he loses to mashing. All of his faster strings are highs.
He has crazy 50/50. I dont think a good mid sounds fair
@@Chabells_MK this has to be the worst argument I've ever seen
@@Shamg0dddnope. My point was valid and making sense. Youd only make him broken. If you want Shao to have a good mid, they better give Kitana an overhead as well. My character has no mixups.
@@Chabells_MK so you don't want Shao to have a mid because your main character doesn't have mix? A character doesn't need mix to be good but having a mid is essential. Kitana is already good your argument is invalid.
As a Quan main I get really happy with some match ups like sub zero and rain. Otherwise i just heavily rely on kemelion
Diffff wasssup love the content never stop pls your the 2nd best scorp I’ve seen i think all of us will agree with this comment also fuck kenshi that was personal but I feel you
My boy Havik 😢
interesting how theyre asking about how to beat reptile but not subzero ?
still downplaying that character is crazy.
there are 3 reptiles in top 100
and 6 ( 3 in top 20) sub-zeros in top 100 ...
Tbh miss you broh. 💯 keep it up ! 🎉
Shao needs a gravity fix and his armored wake up always misses if you duck or do a move that can low profile
Finally you accept that Reiko is not that bad, as you describe him. And he didn’t get any buffs since release
Kung lao on his own is honesty one of the weakest characters but with goro he becomes S to A. Everything becomes a guess and you really can’t react. But what balances that team out is resource management. Cause once he runs out of goro he’s crap. Also I like the rain placement, tired of people saying he’s low tier.
Kung is top 10
Facts this guy don't know what he's talking about 😂. Bro said kung lao is boring when this guy plays scorpion 🥱😴
He's btop 10 even without Goro. Safe armoured move, instant recovery on divekick, fast projectile, safe mixups (not full combo, but still).
Great job man.
Frankly i agree with your choses for most character.
Moreover you provite great informations..
keep up the good work man.
Scorpin and subzero still at the bottom who would have guessed
I've moved on to T8 guys, but nice to see Scorpion is still doo doo. Waiting for Takeda, but hopefully Scorpion gets a buff
Yeah you don’t actually see a lot of rain in low tier play apparently people think he’s too complicated or intimidating to learn from what ketchup said and I kinda agree I hardly run into low level rain players and when I have they would really just be using the kameo and d2 all the time and a few strings but he is high tier because all his moves are safe the only things that are punishable are his specials he also only has 3 gaps in total with all of his strings really safe character but he does struggle a lot in the mid range because his projectiles are slow and all his strings don’t reach when your in mid range you just hope the opponent runs into the last hit of the string and he’s really limited with kameos with sub really being the only good one for him so really only two bad weaknesses
He’s good with Khameleon too, f2,1 into Mileena overhead is solid mixup and you can start doing the overhead before the low when they adapt, Khameleon also gives him consistent 35-40% combos if you can get the air Khameleon juggles down, he still has the Kara Grab which gives him Brownie points, and he’s got that anti air special.
I personally don’t like his zoning though, he has more zoning tools than most characters and yet they’re trash, you’ll get out zoned by most other characters, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Geras, Reiko, Kitana, etc, Reiko’s stars still go through his projectile shield.
Perfect tier list but I'd put Tanya where Geras is lowkey
I think Kenshi was one of the first characters made and then they subconsciously made their standards lowered with other characters. (Other than Johnny)
I think kenshi is going to be difficult to balance, mainly due to how awful he is without sento stance. Kenshi has extremely weak combos without sento stance, usually around 25% with bar whilst most the cast can get so much more using meter, but his pressure with sento active is way too strong. You can very easily get 45% from one touch, but you have nothing without sento. No idea how theyre going to fix that
Just shorten the sento time
@@yaasmiynbrown7095 i dont think that will help too much. Shorter time wont change the fact that he has a meterless 45% and wont change how oppressive sento is, he just has to unsummon faster
@@yaasmiynbrown7095sentos time has already been shorten once 😩😩
Did Diff skip over the Johnny Cage tier placement explanation?
Bro just skipped over Johnny. Lol
I just want to play Li mei but it’s too much work compared to everyone else
No it’s not
@@lukebrunker264 but it is. Everyone else has much easier win conditions
honestly i think li mei is just played wrong, stagger to get people to do d1s a lot then punish w her special move for crazy dmg and then micro duck or d1 back when they do s1 and thats her whole gameplan tbh
@@rainyzzz_1235 yes but consistently reacting and getting a kombo off of that is tuff. It’s also a bit costly, hence why her win condition is a lot tougher than others imo
@@LiterallyPaulGeorge never said it was easy, but it isnt rly that difficult its the same as punishing peoples d1s w ur d1 except ur j doing a special move, and its not costly at all cuz u can get a 40-50 percent combo w scorpion w 1 bar just off punishing a d1 and by the time ur done w the combo youve regend like half the bar
Wow. Mileena's f1 is so bad I actually thought it was a high
What’s so bad about it though?
Safe hitconfirmable mid without gaps, it still picks up jumps for a combo too
@@sammythijs8641 "hitconfirmable" dial-in combo lmao. Get out. I main Mileena since day 1 and she's bottom 5.
@@h4ns_1 dial-ins are only “bad” if they whiff badly on jumpers though.
strings being dial in is most of the time a downside but I disagree Mileena is in that boat.
Case in point, Liu kangs dial-in B124 in MK11 was one of his best strings because it was very good at picking up jumpers and U really had to play like an idiot to make it whiff badly.
Thar aside, 12 being death on flawless block is far worse, she’s not that great as people would tell you 💀
@@sammythijs8641 dial-in strings are one of the worst NRS design decisions EVER. Like whats the point to take away control from the player? For what? Its downside with Mileena cause its almost impossible to hitconfirm into anything and her kit is bad in general. Her other advancing move - F2 is 18 frames on startup. Like, what? 18 frames? Adn its a HIGH. Ed, are you serious? Like i said, Mileena is terrible and she needs even more than Quan-level buffs: confirmable 2-3 hit mid string, full screen projectile, 12 should be safe no matter what, more plus frames. I'm tired being handicaped in every match so i'd probably start maining someone else. If Ed Boon hates her so much he could just delete her from MK forever.
@@h4ns_1 not saying you’re wrong but F1 really aint that bad imo, 12, f24 are arguably worse 💀 that being said, My first main was Nitara before picking up Mileena. Given how trash Nitara is i’m probably just upplaying Mileena 🥲
Not playing top tiers feels rewarding though, if it works out.
Also not to dump on you but, set up your opponent to randomly block your f1 string and practice the hitconfirm.
You’ll find that the window to confirm into ball roll after the first 2 hits is very generous. I never mess it up, even in the worst connections, and I really suck at single button confirms.
If Kenshi was unable to flawless block or upblock with his stance out, and if his sento stance was easier to flawless block, I think we'd see better matchups.
Ive always been confused on why everyone says kenshi is top 1 but we rarely see him in tournaments WINNING them. I could be wrong so by all means correct me if i am, but i feel like hes one of the characters that people are afraid of and just put him in top 1
That’s because the mortal Kombat community is stupid - and Kenshi was never S tier at all. He’s basically all skill no derp which is what this meta is about . Yes, most people just complain about damage and Sento sandwich - but it’s nothing compared to Cage/Lao or Raiden/Kano for example
That's what I say all the time!
I think it’s because he’s to variable, when u play Johnny your strong the whole game but Kenshi is only very strong when sento is out and their sandwiched
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Kenshi definitely behind sindel, raiden, Jhonny, tanya, and ashrah. Because he only good when he land a hit and his neutral are not the best and no mix ups and no kameo to keep safe while all the other characters are cheap with good plus frame and kameo to keep safe. That’s how I feel when I play against them, and I’m a shao main
But that 1 hit is basically round over against a good kenshi. No other character gives you that win condition. I would have him second behind sindel
It’s not round over - there are gaps sometimes and you can Ex through them. Happens all the time - plus Kenshi players mis-time him always since he’s so finicky to use
@@djcrazy941026 I wouldn’t say it’s over but u getting 40% and he still has half pf sento but there are gaps u can ex or be able to block then he doesn’t have sento and is the worst character in the game
Damn this my first ranking video I’ve seen and being a sindel and smoke main atm im kinda upset someone thinks she’s top tier, not because im mad she top tier but I was trying to stay away from top tiers and I don’t play her like a top tier 😂
24:15 basically no mid and poke game. Seriously how can they give noncancelable mid with gap to him?
As a Reptile main I agree
Playing Kung lao is like a blocking simulator and his damage is good
Im new to the game and I really need help understanding these terms. What is:
Mid:
Neutral:
Whiff:
A mid is a attack where you hit the middle of the opponent
Neutral
Means the middle of the match or round like when you characters first start in the match
Whiff means when you use a unsafe special move or unsafe combo string (btw combo strings means the string of buttons you press)
If you miss the string or special move then basically means you miss and the opponent can punish you for it wit a better move or counter special move
Havik is bottom 3 fr, if you know anything about the matchup hes useless
It's the most satisfying thing, beating meta with Reptile. Baraka players especially are so predictable😂
Maybe it's the matchup with Li Mei against scorpion but scorpion/Stryker actually feels like a really solid team id put in a tier especially online. Whenever i play Javier or Murko (who used lao though) online i have to play extremly cautious because the spear basically becomes instant and so does the teleport and you can never punish it because stryker makes it safe and even plus if they conditioned me into not trying to armor out. His anti air is insanely good, he has great range normals, his d3 poke is awesome, he has arguably the best jumpkick after johnny and his movement is insane. But his optimal playstyle is extremly boring as you only runaway the whole game which is why i ultimately dropped him
I think if you learned how to play kenshi and understand all his frames in his stances you’d say that Johnny was better. I main both characters and kenshi is much easier to counter if you know what’s going on. I don’t have an issue fighting other kenshis. I will still get fucked up by other Johnnys all day lol
Totally agree, Johnny’s pressure/ being able to poke out of stuff most other characters can’t, fatal blow, free star power, 1 frame parry… I’d rather fight Kenshi any day lol
Man I fckn hate the spot they put kenshi in.
The first character I ever played in any mortal kombat game is kenshi back in mkx so I really want to play him. But now i feel scummy if I play him cuz he's so good so I'll leave him until he is nerfed🤷♂️
Use what you like bro 😂 just try not to be super cheesy
Maaan I get Down-1 into combo going against Scorpions how tf that make sense. Sware they need to fix a lot of stuff in this game that I’ve noticed that makes it even more like ugh damn this shit again
Shao is A-tier.
im a shang main, when crossplay comes in I want to 1v1 hehe
bro even ninjakilla get caught by baraka
what do u mean u cant punish f2 after u duck if u cant punish that on duck thats a skill issue(ashrah)
I’m totally fine with fighting kenshis,he’s not easy to play so I kinda respect it. I hate fighting sub zero the most
Damn you really broke it down
Was this list considering all Kameo options? No possible way Havik is B tier.
havik sucks
He is lol
Sento need not be free. It should cost two bars or something he lose nothing for summoning sento and with Kameos he can do it safely.
Kenshi needs a complete overhaul. Sento is just dumb.
Just give nitara 950 health and make her wake up a GOD MID 😤
Youre downplaying Mileena and Lao.
Lao doesn’t need buffs. That safe armor needs to go.
The problem is with mk1 is nrs are an incompetent studio that created a broken environement that doesnt allow nerfs and buffs and of either both throws everything out balance
I think Scorpion and Subzero needs buff and make them in the middle like not top tier and not c tier but a skilled player can make it to s
Oh boy, it's diffin time!
Its crazy how milenna is OP in other MK game now she’s not so much
Baraka is S tier
Rain🌧️
sub is A tier he does not need a buff whatsoever and i’m a rieko main so i gotta say some characters are kinda hard counters like reptile and lui kang
I'm sorry but scorpion is better than sub
If they nerf Stryker, imma cry….. pls buff kameos
i am a mileena main and i completely disagree with her placement? shes easily A tier with lao as her kameo, she has amazing damage/“meterless or meter burn without kameo” she can do amazing setups with lao, one of the fastest standing 1 in the game and one of the fastest pokes, she has mix ups and could deal Amazingg pressure, her enhanced air roll is very fast, she can punish every projectile in the game using ball roll ,i went 100-7 this kl season using only mileena, shes just needs a good mid starter, but overall shes amazing and people are missing out on her tbh
I disagree with a lot of things you’re saying. Most importantly though, 1. You made this tier list from the perspective of a scorpion player. You should have spoke on how the entire cast deals with a character not just scorpion.if you’re gonna do that you should’ve just made a scorpion matchup tier list. 2. If you don’t know about a character instead of placing the character where everyone else places them, make a idk tier. I would’ve respected your opinion much more if you would have done that
Quan chi is demonic w sareena, lao and frost
Can we be honest with khameleon everyone is s tier
L take on Kenshi ngl
if a player is good with Kenshi give him the props he or she deserves, he put in a LOT of time cause this character doesnt take 50 mins to learn in practice mode like Johnny
Yeah sure, lets just give every Kenshi main instant win because "they put a lot of time". Its so fun to sit and block 30 seconds long blockstrings.
@@h4ns_1 im not saying give em instant wins but players put in a lot of time with him just for him to get nerfed and have him be even harder to play
scorpion's mid is trash but subs is too. its 15 frames and can only lead to mixup with kameos. at least with scorpion mid you can cancel into DB3 + stryker and you're plus
Am I the only one who thinks that Smoke needs a damage nerf?
Shao is absolutely better than geras & omni man. Farther buttons, better anti-air’s, better mix, and about the same damage. Geras’s breaker & omni man’s staggers are the only thing they have over shao.
My character is never getting buffed😂🦎
Diff!❤
I like it but kinda disagree with Mileena she should be higher than Nitara
Baraka is def not a
Barake+stryker is beyond broken
I agree with it all but putting shao that low. He def A
Subzero here be winning tournaments... please stop moving him to bot tier 😅
only buff shao needs is maybe make f1 a mid
Buff Kitana. Period.
Kenshi could do with some little nerfs but to me I would rather Kenshi top 1 than brain dead raiden or Jonny
I think they just need to cut back on how long sento is out.
@@jaxfanTrue but sentos time as already been shorten once
I really don't get all the Kenshi hate. He's by far the weakest of the top tiers.
Geras is the best character in game period
What’s A tier is that good or bad 💀
S is the best
A is good
B is like decent
C needs a little help, but not terrible
Baraka mid low attack is the gayest thing since doomsday overhead low in injustice
Whatever number I am im here
I’m a havik main and top 70 in rank and top 50 in casual the last time I checked, havik best kameo choice is khameleon
Li Mei in front of Shao, Kung Lao and Mileena? Cmon diff.. i respect your opnion, but thats not right man.. Mileena i undestand, but Shao and Lao? Nah
Bro u forgot about johnny
I’d buff sub scorp havik Mileena
I’m a reptile main but I’m quitting MK because he needs buffs and he won’t get them.
lol weakkkkk
bro your volume is so low....
No no no no diff my li Mei does not do NEAR 50% damage my Li Mei does 50%+ damage with every single combo. Li Meis damage shits on maleenas damage
mileena is for sure better than that. Should be before Rain. Personally I think she's where you have Tanya.
One mid and its in awful dial-in string, no plus frames, no mixups, WORST projectile in the game, WORST armoured move in the game, special moves are super punishable on block, no overhead or low starters, no setups or gimmick strats (like combo from throws). Her jab string is PUNISHABLE if flawless blocked and that thing alone is more than enough to put her into bottom tiers. So how in the Netherrealm she's "better than that"? Shes bottom 5 and i know what i'm talking about, i'm a loyal Mileena main since day 1. And please, dont bring "bUt DaMaGe" argument. Your damage doesnt matter if you cant open up your opponent.
Shao in B🫠
Please back your Kenshi claims with results. For as much as y'all belly ache about him, Ive yet to see him win anything on or offline.Its funny you say Kenshi players downplay, cause the ppl that complain about him, can't execute with him to lab properly 😂
Please don’t go there with that Ego foolishness🤨😐😑 clearly you weren’t the one listening…
Diff was explaining that characters in Fighting Games shouldn’t have ALL Archetypes supporting them.
- Zoning (Overhead Sento, safe at distance)
- Rushdown attack making him immune to projectiles(run attack)
- Sento stance already makes him the only puppeteer
- His forward 2,2 string is annoying cause it’s safe and pushes you away.
Explain why Kenshi needs all of that
And of course Kenshi wouldn’t win anything when there’s JOHNNY, Ashrah and Sindel players giving Kenshi a run for his money 😑.
- And not being able to lab Kenshi is a dumb statement. When there’s more complex characters like Shang, Havik, Quan, Geras. I used Kenshi(I’m a SHANG Main)…he ain’t hard at all😂💯 most Kenshi mains only use 1 character😒
its diffin time
Raiden is only cheap amongst lower rank levels. Once you get to the higher level (demi/elder god) the gimmick like kano sektor etc dont work unless you use them the right way. This is why you dont see Raiden winning tourneys you have to actually know how to play the game. Sindel, Johnny, Kenshi are still broken. People say Sindel is only broken with kameos well no s*** the game is kameo based there is no such thing as fighting without them so quit comparing characters without mentioning kameos and quit making tierlists without kameos
Homie made the dumbest tier list I’ve ever seen
#buffKitana
Nah i main her and she doesn’t need any buffs
Buff Kitana!
@@mewfishmeowsclesI main her too and she needs buffs.
@@SL33PIN_ she’s a really solid character already. She has her flaws, but so does everyone and so should everyone
MAKE RAIDEN GREAT AGAIN
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Subzero mid way worse than scope😂
Did my girl Melina wrong