Subscribed after one minute. I paint landscapes only - No creatures, no structures; just landscapes. Although I am well versed on most of the things you mentioned, it never hurts to learn it again. I am 71 years old and will never be too old to learn. Thank you for a great treatise on landscapes.
You're very welcome, Quazie. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and you are certainly never too old to learn, that's for sure. It's one of the things that keeps life interesting.
Being an artist that has not had the privilege of art school training, I was encouraged to see that I am already using these perspectives organically, without understanding them consciously. Thanks again for the education.
Jill, I am a landscape photographer and enjoyed your video since you touch on many of the common elements of Landscape Photography Composition. Thanks for presenting the subject in a systematic and organized manner, no to mention in a soothing pleasing voice.
Great masters had better eye, they did everything without guidance of camera or computer. Thts why I repeatedly go bk to their works...it pleases n calms my mind,fills with happiness
This is one of my favorite art channels I've come across. Your presentation is very good. It's very soothing, I enjoy painting to your playlist. I only wish you had more videos. I really enjoy your take on different artists and their styles, I would love to see more of that or maybe even further focus on some of your favorites.
Thank you so much, Rob. I really appreciate that. I've actually thought about doing a small series on specific Masters, but it's in competition with so many other ideas. If only I could double my time.
Really helpful! I am also an educator and have been searching for a video that explains some of the most important tenets of a good composition and you did a great job keeping the viewers attention, explaining the points simply and effectively, and bringing it all together in summary at the end. Thank you very much for this and I will be using this during my painting classes to effectively explain the key features of effective landscapes. Well done Jill!
Wow, so well done. As an educator, I am floored by the content, presentation, approach and review. Can't wait to watch more videos! Thanks for all the references too.
Even not being into painting I do understend how dependant & related is photography are. This vid exceeded my expectation far better than most of the so called pro landscape photographers in youtube. Beautifully explained without unnecessary takes of people walking around telling irrelevant stories just to lengthen the video & get more views.
Alhamdulillah. Thanks God I found this YT Channel. Very usefull. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Jill. I whatch and watch your video and write everything down. I like to paint landscape and cityscape but it is new for me about composition. Now I understand there's many things to consider to make a painting works. Thank you.
Thanks for making Carlson's landscape painting theories so much more "palette-able"! :D As you no doubt know, he and also Edgar Payne have lovely/valuable/essential books on composition and are highly recommend for the student, but be prepared for some difficult reading! They were artists not writers, so when a video like yours cuts through all that verbiage and gets to the heart of the most important aspects of landscape painting, it's very helpful; and a God send really! How many times have we seen a beautiful painting, full of details and even good light effects, but fatally flawed by a poor compositional design. Many of us have those, stored away in our studio,.... where no one can see them! LOL. Good video, Jill, thanks!!
True, Ron. Their writing does take a few cups of coffee from my experience - lol. I really appreciate your comment. It really is one of my goals - to cut through fluff and complexity in order to present the information in an easy to understand form.
What a great choice for a topic! Thanks Dianne and Jill. This video has been an eye opening for me when it comes to landscaping. I mostly paint still life. I will definitely try a landscape considering your tips and reasoning within the composition, thank you so much! I truly appreciate it!
Jill, I am so glad that RUclips displayed your video. And I am more pleased that I clicked on it and invested just under 23 minutes into the viewing. This is such a pleasing, informative, and professional video on the subject of composition. You have done a fantastic job. As one of the comments states, you have a very pleasing voice and can share information in a very pleasing method. This is great information. I will share this site with those in the Lachri Fine Art community in the Google plus world. Each artist there can gain by viewing what you have done. Thanks again for this great work.
Thank you so much, Michael! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the information. Not only was it a joy to produce, but I love the challenge of trying to present information that could be rather dry in an enjoyable manner. Learning about art should be as beautiful as the art itself.
Thank-you very much Mam. I love your work in a Landscape. I am photographer, and I am learning landscape photography by watching youtube videos daily. Your video about "Developing an Eye for Landscape Composition" helps me very much to understanding the Composition concepts in Landscape. Thank-you very much love from India
Wow. You mentioned Carlson. Few landscape painters I know today are aware of Carlson. He opened my eyes about composition of landscapes. And most importantly VALUES. I don’t consider myself a landscape painter. But when you break it down to plains and values, it applies to figure and portraiture. It fact, to me Value is more important than color. Color Is relative to every artist. Values are absolute to every artist. Where were you when I was a young student?
I agree that it can apply to other subject matter, and I love how you put it so succinctly that color can be relative by values are absolute. So true! Literally, humans see color differently, even if only slightly different. Very interesting comments...
A great lesson! I am self-taught and tried to learn from books. None of them showed in such a simple and clear way what the composition is about. You explained everything wonderfully and thanks to that it will be easier for me to paint and read the masters' pictures :)) You have a great gift and thank you for sharing it. Greetings from Poland:))
Dear Mrs Jill your voice is so smooth that clearly accompanies your videos. My sincerely congratulations for teach through your videos. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
I'm a photographer, and these ideas will be helpful composing and editing my photos. Thank you! And I always enjoy the beautiful collection of pictures you use to illustrate your ideas.
It's very useful in learning those rules, do s and don't, golden rules, symmetrical rules, Light distribution, and got new concept about triangle rule. Those are really useful tool when come to design a successful painting. Thank you for the video.
@@JillPoyerdFineArt Art is about pleasing eyes, and its also about pleasing heart. Somehow, the value of an art piece is depends on individual's eye. I believe we all have mutual understanding on this. Thanks for sharing. I think i get the theory, and i think nature landscaping has its own rule rather than drawing people on portrait .
I know Nothing about painting but watched this video just because it was recommended...i was so surprised because i never notice these things while looking at the landscape pictures..I watched the video till the end! Very informative and you explained it really well that someone like me could understand it so nicely. 😀
Thank you for this Jill. I do photography and of late during the lockdown, I have done some Landscape work but I am sick to death of landscape photographers talking about the rule of thirds, it makes for boring photographs. I loved your shot of the tree and it was interesting to know that Troth Richards came to Cornwall & Dorset in England.
I recommend the photography of Henri Cartier-Bresson, there's a DVD about his work called the Impassioned Eye. It struck me that he did deviate from the rule of thirds some of the time, and it always worked. WHY it worked... I can't really answer but maybe you or Jill can!
@@sursurrus I think you'll find it worked because there are many Tools of composition. The rule of thirds always seemed scruffy and was based on the golden spiral. Many of the photographic vloggers use it to death and they need to open their eyes more and look at great landscape artists. It is no wonder many photographers prefer B+W, then they don't have to worry about colour spoiling their shots as in a big blob of red in the wrong place. Here is a thought, wide-angle lenses they see more than we do, so now you start trying to fill the space in, useless foreground that doesn't really add anything to the composition in fact it detracts from the main subject. I shall have a look for that DVD. Cheers
I think an additional factor to consider along side Carlson's observation of plains is that of the plains position relative to the direction of the light. Light low in the sky will hit vertical elements such as trees at an angle much more like that of a mountain, giving greater exposure than if the sun were overhead etc. Another factor would be the relative original color value of the objects which will influence their positional value . Also if you have reflective surfaces such as water falls or ice covered trees they will reflect light that normally wouldn't exist on those incline plains, giving a brighter appearance. Lots of factors influencing an otherwise very useful starting point. Thank you so much for an excellent video.❤
I loved this video!! It includes pretty much everything about composition I've seen in other videos and I learned a ton. Why does placing a large object in the center help the composition?
It's really just an optional composition design. When you place the focal element in the center, you're featuring it more like a portrait. The composition is all about that element. It should be able to carry the scene by having enough visual interest and the surrounding elements should act as a support. So, if I'm painting an amazing close up of a flower, for example. If I opt to center it in large form, I'm making the painting all about that flower and the intricacies within its form. If it's part of a set of flowers, then the painting becomes more of a story or a composition about the bouquet, rather than that specific flower (although you can still make that the focal point within the bouquet). Does that explain it better? This is true of any element or object, in my opinion.
At 1 minute i am lisening to you. I started painting after my expirience in the Coast Guard during the vietnam war. So i so much lack the wisdom that now i know i need.i will subscribe.. please ...thank you veryy much.
I great appreciate this video. As a enthusiast photographer I try to learn every day to be able to express what I perceive of the world around me. Thanks !
Dianne Mize recommended your video in one of her weekly newsletters. It was enjoyable to hear another art educator go through them. I taught pre-K through 12th grade in the public school system. I also used to paint landscapes a lot before becoming ill and losing the steadiness of my hands. Anyway this is a superb video & thanks to you and Dianne, I was able to enjoy it.
Thank you, Cheryl. I'm very sorry to hear about your hands, BTW. I lost use of my dominant arm for nearly a year and it was very challenging. I can only imagine issues with both. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video, and many thanks to Diane for her kind reference.
Just wanted to thank you for your wonderful tutorials. You have a voice that is soothing and so easy to learn from. I hope you continue to make tutorials, thanks
It would be fantastic to heart tips from you for photographers, on how they could take and edit landscape pictures to look more like paintings. Simple dodge and burn rules etc. Thank you for your videos!
Thanks for the helpful video. It was a welcome relief after having my time wasted by other videos that repeat only one simple point for 13 minutes. I would encourage a part 2, with even more depth & examples.
I absolutely love this and All of four videos. I have watched this one three times already and learn something new each time. Thank you for taking the time to create these very helpful videos. I hope that you make many, many more!!!
Thank you so much, Stacy. It's always so rewarding to hear how people enjoy them. I do have plans for more! Hope to start on a new one in the next month.
I watch this for photography purposes and I received a great deal of information thank you for sharing. I'll be watching the rest of videos for more hit and tips. Photography and painting are kinda the same art form but you have to be really gifted to use the brushes.
I don't do any fine art or painting, but I have a passion for photography and these things you shared are very helpful on composing our images with our camera. Thank you for making this video and all the best for you and your career. Cheers!
Hi Jill. This is a really beautiful production. I'm a fan of John Carlson's book. I have a request. I'm struggling with planning the colors of my paintings. Do you know of any great online resources for color compositional planning? Could you make a video on color?
Thank you so much, Ken. Regarding your question, I don't know of a specific video on that topic off-hand, although I know there are a lot of videos on color theory. The number of color theory videos is one of the reasons I haven't pursued creating one myself, but if I can think of how to approach it without "reinventing the wheel," I may eventually do it. It's a topic I would actually like to cover. If I do think of a specific resource I'll pass it on.
Carlsons theory was devised and relied heavily on Ansel Adams zone system.A study of the zone system and Adams work will prove invaluable to the landscape artist.
Ms. Jill, I keep coming back to this wonderful lesson you are teaching here! Trying to be a painter becomes very complex when you become really serious... about getting it right. Painting objects and good compositions are two different things! I've tried for years, and with all the fun and enjoyment it gives; when you want to do it better and at another level: you are this first one to know where you stand!ly I constantly search for information with strong tutorial quality, as well as information that can clearly be understood! You care about others really understanding and that is why you have so many admirers as well as perhaps good artist following you! Your explanations are soooo helpful. Do you happen to have ANY instructional materials out? Should your have a chance to respond, and I can imagine how busy you must be, and I respect your time,... please let me know how to purchase from you!!! I just love your approach and the way your interact with the people who appreciate you! Thank you Kindly! JIMI
My goodness - I can't believe this message is a year old - I never saw it! I'm so sorry. I have no idea why I never got notification. Thank you foor your very, very kind comments. I'm honored. I do actually have more instruction. I have several onlin classes on UDemy and some on SkillShare. Let me give you the links. If you see this before October you can use the Coupon code SEPTRUclips for a discount. I hope this helps! www.udemy.com/user/jill-poyerd/
Jill what a delight this video was; visually stunning and audibly peaceful and soothing. Your communication and knowledge was greatly appreciated. Do you have any videos for sale. I use oils as my painting medium.
My apologies for the late response, Sandy. I never got notification of your comment. Thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm afraid I don't have my videos for sale, but I do offer online video instruction through UDemy.com. My 2-Part Brushstrokes class does apply to oil painters as well as watercolorists.
I'm a graphic designer that mainly does book covers for rom-com writers (so usually with a single or double portrait) and i find that usually i intuitively find size and composition really quick in the mock-up's. Afterwards i try many subtle variations, but almost always to find out that i was dead on from the start. Listening to ones intuition should not be underestimated in composition, taking time to observe the elements is something i feel many people just skip when they for instance take a picture, they just point the camera and snap one.
It sounds like you truly have a natural eye, milo. But yes, I think it's helpful to slow down and consider elements. Not to be a slave to rules, but to be aware of them and then (as you said) follow your gut. Well said.
Such an enthralling and informative video. Thanks for capturing such a vast array of subjects in less than 30 minutes and providing such deep insights. Glad I came across it. Thanks and best wishes
Thank you for sharing this video, excellent demonstrations! Composition is so important not only in painting, but in photography. I learned a lot from your lesson!
Great video. This was very useful for setting up painting ideas I might have and where to place things aesthetically. Thank you! (made some google notes on it too so I can quickly get back to it).
Jill do you have a video or book recommendation about how to reverse-engineer a painting or photograph to find out what composition guides or rules an artist used? Your videos are GREAT and I want to be able to look at a painting and take it apart to learn the artists compositional techniques. Thank you!
Thank you, David. One book I know of is "Techniques of the Great Masters of Art" by Chartwell Books. I really enjoyed it. But to double check that information or take a deeper look at other specific artworks, a Google search using the artist's name and X-ray radiography (XRR) or infrared reflectography (IRR) should give you some nice leads.
Esse vídeo é simplesmente genial. Foi feito para ver e rever e rever e rever. Obrigado por esse grande presente de ensinamentos e poder de sintese em fundamentos para o nosso aprendizado artístico.
Jill I'm a beginning landscape photographer and enjoyed your thoughts on composition very much. I'm going to be on the lookout for naturally occurring triangles! I was interested in your very last comments, about when you go out scouting with your camera. I didn't see any videos about that on your page? Are you trying to compose in camera, or just record a beautiful scene? Composing in camera is what I'm working on. So anyway, Thanks!
Thank you so much for your comments, Mark. You know, I feel like I've gotten to the point where I subconsciously eye up natural triangles and designs, having painted landscapes for so long. If I was beginning again, I do think I would make a point of identifying design cues in camera. Come to think of it, even today if I'm on a shoot and a scene feels awkward, I do consciously think about it. You might find my "Part 2" video of interest, where I actually go out on a photo shoot. It's titled "The Art of Reconstructing Compositions" ruclips.net/video/6__rKadRXe8/видео.html I hope that's helpful.
Very well done tutorial. Excellent examples and clear, concise explanation. Great tips for the beginner and also a good refresher for the practicing artist as well.
I assume you mean to edit my images when prepping the compositions? Yes, I do. There are probably similar and less expensive programs these days that can do the same kind of edits, but I've been using Photoshop for years and years - really love it!
I personally don't worry about throwing paper towel with paint on it directly into the trash. It should be fine and I don't use toxic pigments. Those with solvent? Well, if there isn't much solvent (which is usually the case), I just throw it in trash as well. I usually have a separate trash bag for each painting session, so I can close it up and prevent fumes from escaping. If it's summer (aka very hot out) or if the towel has a decent amount of solvent in it, I either dowse it with water or don't throw it in the main trash until the day of pick-up. Is this what you were referring to?
Bravissima!!!! What a great tutorial of art and you Jill are so talent to teach, please keep doing it! Jill can you please tell me the music/sound you use at the end of the video? Thank you! greetings from Switzerland
Do great artist need to study composition? Or is it inherently within them? When I've looked at cave paintings ( online ) they appear to be ( some at least ) composed. It puzzles me that before the rules, even perhaps before language some people " have it ". The theory being that enabling the subconscious might have been the key. Was the primitive mind able to do that more easily?
Very interesting. It does seem that some people may take to composition more easily, but I would suggest that anyone can improve their skill no matter the natural talent. If primitive humans came to it more naturally is it because their lives were so much simpler? Hmm.
Jill, yes ma'am So much to learn, I was a good bowler until I was shown how to bowl. I draw in charcoal will definitely put your teachings into play... Thank you
You are so right about the atmosphere and partials if you live or paint in a dry dusty area and it's constantly hot with winds blowing through the dust gets stirred up and rises in the warm air giving you that haze. So if it where to rain this dust will be knocked out or the air making the objects more vivid if you look at carlsons theory alongside the science of the angle of the white light from the sun striking an object will reflect the avaliable energy of light giving it its colour this will also depend on the angle the object I.e. If a tree or afoul post I'd leaning at an angle it will,change the value of the g.
Exactly, Michael.The angle of the sun AND the angle of the object being struck both influence the way we perceive objects...all related to the light rays. I'm actually going into that a little more in a related online course I'm creating. Thanks for the input.
Glad you enjoyed it, Al. I'm afraid I don't offer individual instruction, but I do have other instructional videos on my Jill Poyerd Fine Art RUclips Channel, including a part two to this video and a trailer for a UDemy course I offer. I hope that's helpful.
I simply need to show somebody like you my pictures asking for your scathing criticism. I'm just an enthusiast ready to learn. I would appreciate your help!
I actually have some leads for you...see if these help. There's a website called WetCanvas.com. If you sign up (it's free) you can submit work for critique from the multitude of members. Here's the link: www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28 They also have a forum specifically related to composition where you may also be able to submit work: www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23 And lastly, if you work in watercolor and are a member of Facebook, there's a critique group where you can submit your work. Just look up "Watercolor Critique" on Facebook. I'm not sure if they're accepting new members, but you can check. I hope that's helpful. Getting more than one perspective on your work will be especially helpful as you can weigh the different points of view. Good luck!
Subscribed after one minute. I paint landscapes only - No creatures, no structures; just landscapes.
Although I am well versed on most of the things you mentioned, it never hurts to learn it again. I am 71 years old and will never be too old to learn. Thank you for a great treatise on landscapes.
You're very welcome, Quazie. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and you are certainly never too old to learn, that's for sure. It's one of the things that keeps life interesting.
Being an artist that has not had the privilege of art school training, I was encouraged to see that I am already using these perspectives organically, without understanding them consciously. Thanks again for the education.
You're very welcome, Kim
Jill, I am a landscape photographer and enjoyed your video since you touch on many of the common elements of Landscape Photography Composition. Thanks for presenting the subject in a systematic and organized manner, no to mention in a soothing pleasing voice.
I glad you enjoyed it, Far Ma. It's great to see that photographers are benefitting from it as well - very rewarding.
Great masters had better eye, they did everything without guidance of camera or computer. Thts why I repeatedly go bk to their works...it pleases n calms my mind,fills with happiness
There really is something special about them, isn't there? Especially seeing them in person.
the best art channel that I managed to find on youtube
Thank you so much, Michal. I'm honored.
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This is one of my favorite art channels I've come across. Your presentation is very good. It's very soothing, I enjoy painting to your playlist. I only wish you had more videos. I really enjoy your take on different artists and their styles, I would love to see more of that or maybe even further focus on some of your favorites.
Thank you so much, Rob. I really appreciate that. I've actually thought about doing a small series on specific Masters, but it's in competition with so many other ideas. If only I could double my time.
Your approach is what's needed. Don't quit.
Thank you so much, Virginia
Really helpful! I am also an educator and have been searching for a video that explains some of the most important tenets of a good composition and you did a great job keeping the viewers attention, explaining the points simply and effectively, and bringing it all together in summary at the end. Thank you very much for this and I will be using this during my painting classes to effectively explain the key features of effective landscapes. Well done Jill!
Thank you, Kathleen. Means a lot coming from a fellow instructor!
Wow, so well done. As an educator, I am floored by the content, presentation, approach and review. Can't wait to watch more videos! Thanks for all the references too.
Thank you so much, Toby! Very appreciated
Even not being into painting I do understend how dependant & related is photography are. This vid exceeded my expectation far better than most of the so called pro landscape photographers in youtube. Beautifully explained without unnecessary takes of people walking around telling irrelevant stories just to lengthen the video & get more views.
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Alhamdulillah. Thanks God I found this YT Channel. Very usefull. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Jill. I whatch and watch your video and write everything down. I like to paint landscape and cityscape but it is new for me about composition. Now I understand there's many things to consider to make a painting works. Thank you.
I'm so glad you found my channel and have enjoyed it, Henny! Welcome!
Thanks for making Carlson's landscape painting theories so much more "palette-able"! :D As you no doubt know, he and also Edgar Payne have lovely/valuable/essential books on composition and are highly recommend for the student, but be prepared for some difficult reading! They were artists not writers, so when a video like yours cuts through all that verbiage and gets to the heart of the most important aspects of landscape painting, it's very helpful; and a God send really! How many times have we seen a beautiful painting, full of details and even good light effects, but fatally flawed by a poor compositional design. Many of us have those, stored away in our studio,.... where no one can see them! LOL. Good video, Jill, thanks!!
True, Ron. Their writing does take a few cups of coffee from my experience - lol. I really appreciate your comment. It really is one of my goals - to cut through fluff and complexity in order to present the information in an easy to understand form.
Foi e mesma sensação que experimentei com Payne. Jill nos brindou com uma verdadeira aula
Learned something new today after many years of painting in oils, choose and get you angles right in the first place,many thanks.
I'm glad you benefitted from it, Jim.
What a great choice for a topic! Thanks Dianne and Jill. This video has been an eye opening for me when it comes to landscaping. I mostly paint still life. I will definitely try a landscape considering your tips and reasoning within the composition, thank you so much! I truly appreciate it!
I'm so glad it was helpful, Crisalinda. And how nice that it has inspired you to try your hand at landscape!
I came for the painting information and keep coming back for the voice. I have watched all of your videos many times :) Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoy my work!
Jill, I am so glad that RUclips displayed your video. And I am more pleased that I clicked on it and invested just under 23 minutes into the viewing. This is such a pleasing, informative, and professional video on the subject of composition. You have done a fantastic job. As one of the comments states, you have a very pleasing voice and can share information in a very pleasing method. This is great information. I will share this site with those in the Lachri Fine Art community in the Google plus world. Each artist there can gain by viewing what you have done. Thanks again for this great work.
Thank you so much, Michael! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the information. Not only was it a joy to produce, but I love the challenge of trying to present information that could be rather dry in an enjoyable manner. Learning about art should be as beautiful as the art itself.
Jill, my plan is to view all of these videos that you have produced. It will take time, but I will gain doing it. Thanks again.
Thank-you very much Mam. I love your work in a Landscape. I am photographer, and I am learning landscape photography by watching youtube videos daily. Your video about "Developing an Eye for Landscape Composition" helps me very much to understanding the Composition concepts in Landscape. Thank-you very much love from India
That's so wonderful to hear, Chetan - I'm very pleased to know how it has helped you.
I am a designer/photographer, best class/video ever in composition. Thank you for posting.
Thank you so much, Dania! That's a high compliment...
Wow. You mentioned Carlson. Few landscape painters I know today are aware of Carlson. He opened my eyes about composition of landscapes. And most importantly VALUES. I don’t consider myself a landscape painter. But when you break it down to plains and values, it applies to figure and portraiture. It fact, to me Value is more important than color. Color Is relative to every artist. Values are absolute to every artist. Where were you when I was a young student?
I agree that it can apply to other subject matter, and I love how you put it so succinctly that color can be relative by values are absolute. So true! Literally, humans see color differently, even if only slightly different. Very interesting comments...
A great lesson! I am self-taught and tried to learn from books. None of them showed in such a simple and clear way what the composition is about. You explained everything wonderfully and thanks to that it will be easier for me to paint and read the masters' pictures :)) You have a great gift and thank you for sharing it. Greetings from Poland:))
Thank you so much for that feedback and kind comment, chaconne04. It's very rewarding to hear how you benefitted from the video.
I learned a lot from photography books.
Dear Mrs Jill your voice is so smooth that clearly accompanies your videos. My sincerely congratulations for teach through your videos. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Thank you so much, Carlos! I appreciate that.
This is one of the most important videos in Art .
Thank you so much...
I'm a photographer, and these ideas will be helpful composing and editing my photos. Thank you! And I always enjoy the beautiful collection of pictures you use to illustrate your ideas.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I do strive to make my videos visually pleasant.
It's very useful in learning those rules, do s and don't, golden rules, symmetrical rules, Light distribution, and got new concept about triangle rule. Those are really useful tool when come to design a successful painting. Thank you for the video.
You're very welcome. It does help you see landscapes a little differently, I think.
@@JillPoyerdFineArt Art is about pleasing eyes, and its also about pleasing heart. Somehow, the value of an art piece is depends on individual's eye. I believe we all have mutual understanding on this. Thanks for sharing. I think i get the theory, and i think nature landscaping has its own rule rather than drawing people on portrait .
I know Nothing about painting but watched this video just because it was recommended...i was so surprised because i never notice these things while looking at the landscape pictures..I watched the video till the end! Very informative and you explained it really well that someone like me could understand it so nicely. 😀
I'm so glad it was helpful, smh
Thank you for this Jill. I do photography and of late during the lockdown, I have done some Landscape work but I am sick to death of landscape photographers talking about the rule of thirds, it makes for boring photographs. I loved your shot of the tree and it was interesting to know that Troth Richards came to Cornwall & Dorset in England.
I'm glad you enjoyed the material, iain. Yes, there's so much more to composition than simply the rue of thirds (which of course is good to know...)
I recommend the photography of Henri Cartier-Bresson, there's a DVD about his work called the Impassioned Eye. It struck me that he did deviate from the rule of thirds some of the time, and it always worked. WHY it worked... I can't really answer but maybe you or Jill can!
@@sursurrus I think you'll find it worked because there are many Tools of composition. The rule of thirds always seemed scruffy and was based on the golden spiral. Many of the photographic vloggers use it to death and they need to open their eyes more and look at great landscape artists. It is no wonder many photographers prefer B+W, then they don't have to worry about colour spoiling their shots as in a big blob of red in the wrong place. Here is a thought, wide-angle lenses they see more than we do, so now you start trying to fill the space in, useless foreground that doesn't really add anything to the composition in fact it detracts from the main subject. I shall have a look for that DVD. Cheers
Excellent info! I’ll try to remember before I paint next time.
I think an additional factor to consider along side Carlson's observation of plains is that of the plains position relative to the direction of the light. Light low in the sky will hit vertical elements such as trees at an angle much more like that of a mountain, giving greater exposure than if the sun were overhead etc. Another factor would be the relative original color value of the objects which will influence their positional value . Also if you have reflective surfaces such as water falls or ice covered trees they will reflect light that normally wouldn't exist on those incline plains, giving a brighter appearance. Lots of factors influencing an otherwise very useful starting point. Thank you so much for an excellent video.❤
I actually explain your first point in my online class with the same name. Good observations, Heather. Glad you enjoyed it!
Jill ,keep up the excellent work, very informative.do more.
Thank you, Maxime. Working on one as I write this...
I loved this video!! It includes pretty much everything about composition I've seen in other videos and I learned a ton.
Why does placing a large object in the center help the composition?
It's really just an optional composition design. When you place the focal element in the center, you're featuring it more like a portrait. The composition is all about that element. It should be able to carry the scene by having enough visual interest and the surrounding elements should act as a support. So, if I'm painting an amazing close up of a flower, for example. If I opt to center it in large form, I'm making the painting all about that flower and the intricacies within its form. If it's part of a set of flowers, then the painting becomes more of a story or a composition about the bouquet, rather than that specific flower (although you can still make that the focal point within the bouquet). Does that explain it better? This is true of any element or object, in my opinion.
Thank you,thank you, thank you...simple, clear considerate and visual
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Heide!
Please keep posting these exceptionally informative videos.
Thank you, Frances - Many more planned, it just takes a while to produce.
I just can't believe how much knowledge I can get from one video of yours, thank you a lot for sharing this video with us
You're very welcome, Silent Voice
At 1 minute i am lisening to you. I started painting after my expirience in the Coast Guard during the vietnam war. So i so much lack the wisdom that now i know i need.i will subscribe.. please ...thank you veryy much.
Composition, value. Yes tell us.
I'm so glad it's been helpful, David.
Your instructional videos are an absolute delight. Ty very much as it’s clear you’ve put a good deal of effort into them.
I great appreciate this video. As a enthusiast photographer I try to learn every day to be able to express what I perceive of the world around me. Thanks !
You're very welcome, Riccardo - glad you enjoyed it!
I have shared these videos with my painting friends. Incredibly well done. Thank you!
That's so kind of you, Josephine. I'm glad you found it helpful.
God bless for all the hard work, research and focus for a solid foundation every fine artist really must know.
Thank you, Kenneth. I appreciate that.
Dianne Mize recommended your video in one of her weekly newsletters. It was enjoyable to hear another art educator go through them. I taught pre-K through 12th grade in the public school system. I also used to paint landscapes a lot before becoming ill and losing the steadiness of my hands. Anyway this is a superb video & thanks to you and Dianne, I was able to enjoy it.
Thank you, Cheryl. I'm very sorry to hear about your hands, BTW. I lost use of my dominant arm for nearly a year and it was very challenging. I can only imagine issues with both. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video, and many thanks to Diane for her kind reference.
That was a fantastic presentation on composition even to the photographer ...many thanks...
You're very welcome, Mark
Wow I learned so much, this was so pleasing and calming to watch! I can’t wait to watch more of your videos
Thank you, Carol. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Informative, not just for painters but for photographers also. Absolutely love it. Thank you
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This is just the video I needed. I am a becoming a big fan of your work. Thank you so much
Just wanted to thank you for your wonderful tutorials. You have a voice that is soothing and so easy to learn from. I hope you continue to make tutorials, thanks
You're very welcome, John. All intentions are to continue! Aiming to release a new one by Summer 2017
The narration is good, the content is interesting and the voice is angel material. Thanks for sharing this.
That is so very kind of you, Norbert
It would be fantastic to heart tips from you for photographers, on how they could take and edit landscape pictures to look more like paintings. Simple dodge and burn rules etc. Thank you for your videos!
You know, I don't feel quite expert enough in photography to truly do so. But thank you for the compliment.
Thank you Jill - very helpful and delightful instruction on composition.
You're welcome, Caz. So glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the helpful video. It was a welcome relief after having my time wasted by other videos that repeat only one simple point for 13 minutes. I would encourage a part 2, with even more depth & examples.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Cc
These tips are great, don't stop, come back and upload more interesting stuff.
Thank you so much, MindGem. Yes, there are many more planned once I finish up a project I"m working on. So glad you enjoyed it.
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I absolutely love this and All of four videos. I have watched this one three times already and learn something new each time. Thank you for taking the time to create these very helpful videos. I hope that you make many, many more!!!
Thank you so much, Stacy. It's always so rewarding to hear how people enjoy them. I do have plans for more! Hope to start on a new one in the next month.
Jill Poyerd Fine Art You are very welcome. I look forward to seeing what you do next!! Hope you and yours have a safe and happy new year!!!
@@stacyhannon4081 And you as well : )
I watch this for photography purposes and I received a great deal of information thank you for sharing. I'll be watching the rest of videos for more hit and tips. Photography and painting are kinda the same art form but you have to be really gifted to use the brushes.
They do have many commonalities, I agree. Both certainly rely on the skilled placement of the visual elements.
Excelente exposición de criterios de composición, ilustrada con ejemplos muy claros.
I don't do any fine art or painting, but I have a passion for photography and these things you shared are very helpful on composing our images with our camera. Thank you for making this video and all the best for you and your career. Cheers!
Hi Jill. This is a really beautiful production. I'm a fan of John Carlson's book.
I have a request. I'm struggling with planning the colors of my paintings. Do you know of any great online resources for color compositional planning? Could you make a video on color?
Thank you so much, Ken. Regarding your question, I don't know of a specific video on that topic off-hand, although I know there are a lot of videos on color theory. The number of color theory videos is one of the reasons I haven't pursued creating one myself, but if I can think of how to approach it without "reinventing the wheel," I may eventually do it. It's a topic I would actually like to cover. If I do think of a specific resource I'll pass it on.
Carlsons theory was devised and relied heavily on Ansel Adams zone system.A study of the zone system and Adams work will prove invaluable to the landscape artist.
Ms. Jill, I thank you so kindly! This is very helpful, no matter how good or otherwise you paint! i will continue to follow your input! Thanks again!
You're very welcome, Jimmie
Ms. Jill, I keep coming back to this wonderful lesson you are teaching here! Trying to be a painter becomes very complex when you become really serious... about getting it right. Painting objects and good compositions are two different things! I've tried for years, and with all the fun and enjoyment it gives; when you want to do it better and at another level: you are this first one to know where you stand!ly
I constantly search for information with strong tutorial quality, as well as information that can clearly be understood! You care about others really understanding and that is why you have so many admirers as well as perhaps good artist following you! Your explanations are soooo helpful. Do you happen to have ANY instructional materials out? Should your have a chance to respond, and I can imagine how busy you must be, and I respect your time,... please let me know how to purchase from you!!! I just love your approach and the way your interact with the people who appreciate you! Thank you Kindly! JIMI
My goodness - I can't believe this message is a year old - I never saw it! I'm so sorry. I have no idea why I never got notification. Thank you foor your very, very kind comments. I'm honored. I do actually have more instruction. I have several onlin classes on UDemy and some on SkillShare. Let me give you the links. If you see this before October you can use the Coupon code SEPTRUclips for a discount. I hope this helps!
www.udemy.com/user/jill-poyerd/
This is an outstanding tutorial, thank you so much, I have learnt more about composition here than in all my previous learning combined.
That's wonderful to hear, Debra - I'm so pleased to know how much it's helped you
I just saw the painting from Aelbert Cuyp of my hometown Dordrecht. Got me a little proud haha. Great video, thanks!
And you should be proud! A lot of great talent from that beautiful town...
This video is so very excellent, a pleasure to view and hear!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Joane
Jill what a delight this video was; visually stunning and audibly peaceful and soothing. Your communication and knowledge was greatly appreciated. Do you have any videos for sale. I use oils as my painting medium.
My apologies for the late response, Sandy. I never got notification of your comment. Thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm afraid I don't have my videos for sale, but I do offer online video instruction through UDemy.com. My 2-Part Brushstrokes class does apply to oil painters as well as watercolorists.
I'm a graphic designer that mainly does book covers for rom-com writers (so usually with a single or double portrait) and i find that usually i intuitively find size and composition really quick in the mock-up's. Afterwards i try many subtle variations, but almost always to find out that i was dead on from the start. Listening to ones intuition should not be underestimated in composition, taking time to observe the elements is something i feel many people just skip when they for instance take a picture, they just point the camera and snap one.
It sounds like you truly have a natural eye, milo. But yes, I think it's helpful to slow down and consider elements. Not to be a slave to rules, but to be aware of them and then (as you said) follow your gut. Well said.
Such an enthralling and informative video. Thanks for capturing such a vast array of subjects in less than 30 minutes and providing such deep insights. Glad I came across it. Thanks and best wishes
Very glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing this video, excellent demonstrations! Composition is so important not only in painting, but in photography. I learned a lot from your lesson!
You're very welcome, Baoren. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. This was very useful for setting up painting ideas I might have and where to place things aesthetically. Thank you! (made some google notes on it too so I can quickly get back to it).
Jill do you have a video or book recommendation about how to reverse-engineer a painting or photograph to find out what composition guides or rules an artist used? Your videos are GREAT and I want to be able to look at a painting and take it apart to learn the artists compositional techniques. Thank you!
Thank you, David. One book I know of is "Techniques of the Great Masters of Art" by Chartwell Books. I really enjoyed it. But to double check that information or take a deeper look at other specific artworks, a Google search using the artist's name and X-ray radiography (XRR) or infrared reflectography (IRR) should give you some nice leads.
Thank you Jill... for everything... you are so awesome!
Thank you so much, Gary
Esse vídeo é simplesmente genial. Foi feito para ver e rever e rever e rever. Obrigado por esse grande presente de ensinamentos e poder de sintese em fundamentos para o nosso aprendizado artístico.
Fico muito feliz que tenha gostado Alexandre
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I'm a beginning landscape photographer and enjoyed your thoughts on composition very much. I'm going to be on the lookout for naturally occurring triangles!
I was interested in your very last comments, about when you go out scouting with your camera. I didn't see any videos about that on your page? Are you trying to compose in camera, or just record a beautiful scene? Composing in camera is what I'm working on. So anyway, Thanks!
Thank you so much for your comments, Mark. You know, I feel like I've gotten to the point where I subconsciously eye up natural triangles and designs, having painted landscapes for so long. If I was beginning again, I do think I would make a point of identifying design cues in camera. Come to think of it, even today if I'm on a shoot and a scene feels awkward, I do consciously think about it. You might find my "Part 2" video of interest, where I actually go out on a photo shoot. It's titled "The Art of Reconstructing Compositions" ruclips.net/video/6__rKadRXe8/видео.html I hope that's helpful.
Awesome video. I really like the part of exercise. Thank you very much
Brilliant!! This has really helped me. Thank you
So pleased to see this video. I just stumbled on a treasure.
Excellent video and subject matter. Thanks Jill.
You're very welcome, Larry
A wonderful video that makes all the elements apprehensible. Love your choices of art for examples. Very helpful and supportive. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, Christine - you're very welcome
Your voice is so soothing.
Hi Jill, Good job. Thank you.❤
I forgot that I have watched this video until I heard this very beautiful voice. Its one you don't forget.
haha so true me too
Excellent content n beautiful narration.
Thank you, Tariq
Very well done tutorial. Excellent examples and clear, concise explanation. Great tips for the beginner and also a good refresher for the practicing artist as well.
Thanks for the great video, which enriched us with valuable information about compositions
I'm glad you enjoyed it, essam
I'm a photographer and really enjoyed this😊
Very well done. Did you use Photoshop??
I assume you mean to edit my images when prepping the compositions? Yes, I do. There are probably similar and less expensive programs these days that can do the same kind of edits, but I've been using Photoshop for years and years - really love it!
Thank you for your response and teaching. Well done. Stay blest
How do you dispose of oil paint and medium soaked paper towels, and the paint sludge from oil paint safely?
I personally don't worry about throwing paper towel with paint on it directly into the trash. It should be fine and I don't use toxic pigments. Those with solvent? Well, if there isn't much solvent (which is usually the case), I just throw it in trash as well. I usually have a separate trash bag for each painting session, so I can close it up and prevent fumes from escaping. If it's summer (aka very hot out) or if the towel has a decent amount of solvent in it, I either dowse it with water or don't throw it in the main trash until the day of pick-up. Is this what you were referring to?
Thank you so much Jill for such detailed description in such a beautiful voice.☺️
You're very welcome, Skye - and thank you.
Very inspiring. Thanks very much, educational and uplifting
Bravissima!!!! What a great tutorial of art and you Jill are so talent to teach, please keep doing it! Jill can you please tell me the music/sound you use at the end of the video? Thank you! greetings from Switzerland
Thank you so much, Ornella! (...Switzerland is so beautiful). The music at the end is called "In the City of Angels" by Olive Musique.
thank you so much!
Do great artist need to study composition? Or is it inherently within them? When I've looked at cave paintings ( online ) they appear to be ( some at least ) composed. It puzzles me that before the rules, even perhaps before language some people
" have it ". The theory being that enabling the subconscious might have been the key. Was the primitive mind able to do that more easily?
Very interesting. It does seem that some people may take to composition more easily, but I would suggest that anyone can improve their skill no matter the natural talent. If primitive humans came to it more naturally is it because their lives were so much simpler? Hmm.
I'm going to have to watch this two or three more times. I wonder if I could listen in my sleep and have it cement in ☺.
You never know! Glad you enjoyed it...
Thank you Jill for a very informative tutorial. I really enjoyed watching it.😎🇦🇺🦘
Glad you enjoyed it, Dave!
This is serious teaching thanks a lot for your time, my respect
Your videos are simultaneously informative and relaxing! Great job! Are you a Utah artist?
Thank you, Rogue's Odyssey. No, I currently live on the East Coast. Utah looks like such an amazing state - on my wish list for some day.
Jill, yes ma'am So much to learn, I was a good bowler until I was shown how to bowl. I draw in charcoal will definitely put your teachings into play... Thank you
You are so right about the atmosphere and partials if you live or paint in a dry dusty area and it's constantly hot with winds blowing through the dust gets stirred up and rises in the warm air giving you that haze. So if it where to rain this dust will be knocked out or the air making the objects more vivid if you look at carlsons theory alongside the science of the angle of the white light from the sun striking an object will reflect the avaliable energy of light giving it its colour this will also depend on the angle the object I.e. If a tree or afoul post I'd leaning at an angle it will,change the value of the g.
Exactly, Michael.The angle of the sun AND the angle of the object being struck both influence the way we perceive objects...all related to the light rays. I'm actually going into that a little more in a related online course I'm creating. Thanks for the input.
Thank you a lot for such valuable information!
Valuable information! Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it, Ernst
Just a thought, central focal point is easier in painting , which can still balance a picture/painting, rather than photography
That may be true, especially because in painting we can move or adjust elements.
Very helpful, thanks. Is there anyway I can get personal training by you?
Glad you enjoyed it, Al. I'm afraid I don't offer individual instruction, but I do have other instructional videos on my Jill Poyerd Fine Art RUclips Channel, including a part two to this video and a trailer for a UDemy course I offer. I hope that's helpful.
I simply need to show somebody like you my pictures asking for your scathing criticism. I'm just an enthusiast ready to learn. I would appreciate your help!
I actually have some leads for you...see if these help. There's a website called WetCanvas.com. If you sign up (it's free) you can submit work for critique from the multitude of members. Here's the link: www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28
They also have a forum specifically related to composition where you may also be able to submit work: www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23
And lastly, if you work in watercolor and are a member of Facebook, there's a critique group where you can submit your work. Just look up "Watercolor Critique" on Facebook. I'm not sure if they're accepting new members, but you can check.
I hope that's helpful. Getting more than one perspective on your work will be especially helpful as you can weigh the different points of view. Good luck!
Thanks a lot for your help!
You're very welcome, Al
Total philosefia. Keep on sharing.
You have a great voice. You should do audio books.
Thank you, Erik
Erik Westerveld No entiendo lo que dice la señorita del video, pero tambien iba a comentar lo mismo sobre su voz.
jaja muy bien.
Yes it's very relaxing 😃💙💚🧡
@@JillPoyerdFineArt jill , you always deserve the best compliments . We always learn from you . You make all your admirers proud of you , indeed !
Amazing video, thank you so much!
Love this very informative video! Very useful even for digital artists
Thank you!