Boss RC500 serial verse-chorus loops. It can really do it!
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2021
- Short demo of the Boss RC 500 loop station, using independent serial loops for verses and choruses.
If you want to make verse/chorus loops including the built in rhythm machine, check my other video • BOSS RC500 verse-choru...
(sorry I didn't check my hair before I shot the video...) :-P 
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Hi. Great video. Inspired me to go play around with verse/chorus. What I found out, the TRK CHAIN setting would only apply in PARALLEL mode since it affects the routing of the audio. Setting this to SERIES would feed the output of TRK1 into input of TRK 2. This has no use in case where we are only having one track at a time. I think the more useful setting is SINGL CHANGE, this can be IMMEDIATE or LOOP END. When set to LOOP END looper will switch tracks when the current track reaches end of loop. I found this to be really useful as you can hit the button to switch tracks at any time. The lights on the RC-500 flash to let you know it is primed to switch tracks at LOOP END. Your video really helped demonstrate the feature. Cheers
Fair enough and I definitely don't want to defend Boss approach for two track looping. 😅
If you want to work with more complicated loops, try the RC600. This will give you 6 independent loops in series or parallel, whatever you desire.
My approach shown here is to illustrate the fact that you can use verse-chorus looping even if you don't know the amount of measures for every part, for instance when improvising (which I do a lot).
Dude great video!! Thank you for this super simple breakdown, I can't wait to try it!
It seems like such an obvious question about this 2-track looper, but this is the only video I've found so far that actually answers it. Thanks so much!
Any time!
Thank you, works great! I added Loop End to the memory setting (I like that your video shows the Immediate feature for instant punch-in of the next track), Your video spells it out clearly and I am very grateful for this helpful presentation. I guess the RC-500 should ship with a link to your video!!! I tried the parameter guide, other videos, the manual.... but your presentation made it concise, clear, and easy:)
Thanks man! I hope it inspired you to play around with it. :-)
Brilliant! Such a clear explanation too. Many thanks👍
Tops! Thanks for the video, I bought mine a week ago, this really helped a lot!
Just bought it and so glad to find your clear explanation. Thank you!!!!!
Any time!
Wat ben je toch een geweldig persoon. Je had helemaal gelijk, heel erg bedankt.
Great video; you showed me exactly what I needed to know! Thank you
Any time, thank you!
Excellent and very well demonstrated!
Thanks! Enjoy your new knowledge!
Thanks! This is why I bought a "2 Track unit" IMO that should be the factory setting out of the box!!!!
Any time! I am glad Boss finally made this possible.
Excellent tutorial! Answers the verse/chorus question very clearly. Thanks JeeWee
@@cornelissteen1018 Thank you, any time!
wow out of all the tutorials on youtube for the RC500 yours is by far the most simple, basic, clear step by step
instruction on how to start bravo jeewee keep it coming
Any time!
Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for.
Good for you! Enjoy!
Great explanation. I had worked this out from the parameter settings guide (downloaded from Boss) but that maybe should be included with the manual 👍
THAT was awesome!
Thank you for the reply. That really helped. Great jam btw🤟
Any time, and thanx!
What an excellent video, thanks so much! 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much you are awesome
Mark from Fresno California
You are very welcome
Thanks a lot for your video! I have several looper pedals and want to upgrade them and I am looking at rc500 and rc505. Your tutorial really helps in making my decision. I like the price of rc500, but like rc505 functionality more.
Good for you! I don't have any experience with the 505, but it would definitely look appealing to me if I were a singer or so.
Maybe you should check out the RC505 mk 2 that just came out.
thank you!! Great video!
Thanks so much for sharing, great, easy to understand
You're welcome!
Finally somebody figured it out thanks
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Thank you for your content.
Any time!
Thanks to this video or another of yours I was able to work out to make a sequential song going V C V C automatically. Something maybe not mentioned in videos is Loop End function (in memory - I am not sure about in track' edit - is important when changing tracks so T1 loop finishes before starting T2, not just immediately.
Exactly, you can set it to start tracks immediately or at the end of the loop. I usually prefer immediately, especially in a V/C context with no rhythm machine going.
@@JeeWeeDonkers I am not that skilled, just love to have an easy back beat preset for its measures. Sometimes I cannot get the measures I want locked-in even after write. Eg Write as 21 measures but it records at 24 and when look again at the memory it shows 24. It's kinda buggy like that.
Very helpful. Thank you for sharing.
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Great job, thanks!
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Thanks a lot man. That's what I want!!!
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Very helpful! Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Very awesome
Nice job! Clear explanation and nice catchy song, lol. Is there any way that i can prepare the trk2 on playing after the end of the trk1 instead of when i press play button? That would prepare the track and let me free for improviation maenwhile.
Yes, that is possible. You can set the tracks to start either IMMEDIATE or at END OF LOOP. In the latter case you can hit play at any convenient time during the loop and the pedal will switch when it arrives at the end of the loop.
Great explanation, I’m wondering since you can predetermine loop lengths whether this is possible without split second switching. I know one of the skills in looping is the timing of hitting buttons but this thing has the really cool auto feature🤔
Thanks for your question. I know it is possible, especially useful when you're using the rhythm machine. However, I am running into some sync problems now and then that I cannot solve yet. I am planning a video on this as soon as I have got that figured out.
Thx. Considering what to buy and not having this would be a dealbreaker.
Exactly! If you need more flexibility you may want to consider the RC600
Brilliant......
you make the best of what you got.. ;-)
U are the man!
Definitely a man. ;-)
@@JeeWeeDonkers to the point, just like a man!
@@danielsomerstein9996 😄
Thank you!
Any time!
"This is a verse this is a verse this is a verse it's still a verse...." LOL ... I love the song but thank you so much JeeWee you really helped me a lot, seriously, Thank you again. Mike.
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Appreciate your knowledge transfer
I appreciate your appreciation! ;-)
Great content, thank you for sharing. Is it possible le to have a different drum loop between track 1 and track 2? (Different drums for verse and chorus)
You're very welcome!
Regarding different drum patterns: unfortunately not. You can only choose one pattern per memorty slot. You can choose different variations of the same pattern though.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Thanks for this video. Have you made a video on how to achieve the above i.e. how to assign one rhythm variation A to track 1 and variation B to track 2? Can't work it out....
Thank you
Is it possible to immediately start the play of track 2 by hitting the Track Select button or must you always hit Track Select and then Play? I would like to instantly switch tracks with one click at any point in either track. Is this possible?
Yes you can, but you need to setup your switches differently. S1 track 1 RDPS, S2 track 2 RDPS should make that possible.
I’m using the series loops like you instructed. I’m using a rhythm beat as well and the loops lose time with the beat after a few times. Any thoughts?
Check my other RC500 video: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.html
Other Question/… how to set rhythm Independent from looppedals 1-2 ?? Thx!
You can set rhythm start/stop by assigning external control pedals. You can do this per memory slot (MEMORY - ASSIGN) or overall in the MENU - CONTROL menu.
Is there a way at to
Stop drift ? Seems like as a song progresses the guitar and the drums don’t match
Check my other video, specifying this very topic: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.htmlsi=3K5ujx269mMJio_p
This video is like dogma for me. I also programmed my foot switch to change drum beats for each track and now I can really hit that sectional looping!
Cool! I am glad you are able to do that now!
Hello, Marc! What footswitch do you use, please?
I'm very interested to see how that's done! I haven't actually purchased my loop station yet but by the time I'm done with all this classroom training, I should be well on my way. I'm also interested to know if I can pre-record an entire song (guitar only) to free me to play the second guitar parts, etc AND can I change drum tracks accordingly for the different sections?
Can this be achieved with midi program change? If I wanted to use both tracks in each loop or to chain more than 2 loops it would make this method impractical, is there any barrier to using external program change to chain loops?
On the RC500 you cannot use series and parallel loops together, not directly and not via Midi. The RC600 on the other hand will be able to do that. It has six loops that can be used in various modes.
Hi! thanks for you review.. I've a question: it's possible to set in this order? REC/OVERDUBB/PLAY like my RC1? thanks for answer...
Download the parameter guide document from Boss, a lot of things are possible 👍
@@gianthonour thank you!!
Here you go: press MEMORY, enter REC settings, scroll to REC ACTION. Then select REC -> DUB and you're all set!
@@JeeWeeDonkers thank you so much!!!
@@danieladanidonatone4901 Any time!
Can you set it up so the currently playing track ends first before playing the next track, regardless on when you press the Play button for the next track?
Yes you can. Check MEMORY - PLAY - SINGL CHANGE and set it to LOOP END.
Can you do this with rhythm machine going and different loop lengths. Seems like the more I play with rhythm on it slowly sounds off time.
Check my other video: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.htmlsi=odY3L6T0PY_Ewj_s
Hi there, thanks for your video. One question if you don't mind: is it possible to save/ record a whole song on the rc 500? Or does It only works in live mode where you have to change the tracks manually? I would like to record a whole song and save it later as mp3 or whatever. Is that possible? Cheers
That is indeed possible. Once you've recorded all the tracks you want to keep, simply save everything to a memory slot and you're done!
@@JeeWeeDonkers Thanks for the quick response. You are a star. Does it mean I record several loops and in the end manually construct a whole song together?
@@clemensmaguire2953 Absolutely!
@@JeeWeeDonkers sorry to be a nuissance but I want to be clear: i record several loops like intro, verse 1, verse 2, chorus, verse 3 and outro individually and then I can arrange the order of the loops after my liking and save everything as a song? Problem I can't find anything about that in the manual or here on RUclips. Is my question too obvious? Cheers
@@clemensmaguire2953 If I understand you correctly yuo record several tracks in various memory locations and want to pre-program those memort patches into a song. As far as I know, the RC500 doesn't allow you to do that.
What you can do, is save these various memory locations in an appropriate order, and use an external footswitch like the FS6 or 7 to scroll up and down through the saved memory slots. My old RC30 did that pretty well, however I am not sure whether the 500 allows you to keep the loops playing whily scrolling through memory slots. You might have to try that first.
How do you delete previous loops? I know if you hold the stop button, it deletes the last previous loop, but can you delete more than just the last previous loop? Like the previous 2 or 3?
There is no undo-list like in your DAW or office apps. You can either undo/redo the last recorded phrase by long-pressing Record while playing that track or clear a whole track by long pressing Stop after that particular track is stopped.
Thank you so much….
You are very very welcome!
Great demo, thank you! One question though - I would like to start recording a chorus IMMEDIATELY after stopping recording the verse (as opposed to having to hear the verse playback again before recording a chorus). Is this possible? With only one press of a button?
Yes you can. First press track change, and then start/record of track 2.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Amazing thanks!!! Much simpler than I thought :)
i made tree tracks and i want to us ex channel 9 as the bridge and the verse and chorus goes in channel 8 when i switch from loop/ chorus to brake it want fix it in this song but i handle it in another?? what do i forget? it change in one beat after i press the AB botton to the next ex..9 but if i start in in the brake its no problem to go to the verse?
I'm afraid I don't really understand what you're asking... Could you clarify please?
I made tree different wave files,,verse,chorus,and a brake,,i wanne play this tree parts in the looper,,then i need to us two presets exemple 8 and 9 to make it work,,but i struggle with this to go from channel 2 in ex,8,, and into the brake in preset number 9 ,,i have the AB pedal from Boss and switch between 8 and 9 easy,,but when i do push the knob to the Preset ex9 brake it start right away,,i would like it to pree start,so i can wait intill the preset chorus are finnish 16 beats?
Is there anyway you can switch between the tracks using only the track select switch button?
Having to hit the track select button and then the play button every time would be a pain.
If you reprogram your buttons 1 and 2 to Rec/Play/Dub Stop etc for each track respectively, you will be able to achieve just that.
will these steps have to be repeated for each memory slot? I obviously want to do two separate tracks for each memory slot
You can copy all your edited parameters in any memory slot to another: once you have a combination that works for you, you can save it to other memory slots as well.
For example, I have presets for RC20 style (rec-dub-play), RC30 style (rec-play-dub) and for serial looping saved in separate memory slots.
Hey, it seems you lose the ability to have the rhythm (drum track) match the beat when you record with loop.s off. Is this correct? Do you have any tips that would help with that?
Correct, this is one of the nasty things I haven't overcome yet. Others refer to it as a bug Boss needs toe fix in the next firmware update.
@@JeeWeeDonkers thanks for confirming. That's really unfortunate, fingers crossed it gets addressed
Hi, nice video! I followed your settings and it's really close to what I'm trying to achieve.
When I have loop sync off it seems my guitar part gradually gets out of sync with the built-in rhythm. I'd like to have a 4 measure loop on track 1 and an 8 measure loop on track 2. I want track 2 to always start at the beginning of the loop whenever I switch from track 1, and I want everything to stay in sync with the rhythm. Maybe I need Loop.S off and quantize on. Appreciate any guidance you can give.
Hi, you could check my other RC500 video, which deals with exactly this problem.
Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.html
Thank you. Perhaps you can do a video using a midi control pedal with the RC. BTW, your video is outstanding.
Thanx!
Although I do use a Morningstar MIDI controller, I haven't had it hooked up to the RC yet. You might want to check Paul's video on the subject. I will post a link asap.
Here's one: ruclips.net/video/3Rr_9mdK1Rc/видео.html
And this one is cool too. ruclips.net/video/oHE8GH75Ipk/видео.html
is it possible to change the percussion for each of the 2 independent tracks?
Unfortunately no. Once a rhythm pattern has been recorded, it is fixed to that patch. One can only change variation A or B (or take out/blend in certain percussion instruments via Assigns).
@@JeeWeeDonkers Thanx for responding. Dankevel.
how can I have two independent loops with different measure.....but in time with drum rythms
Please check my other video: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.html
There are limitations to the differences in number of measures, but in most cases this works.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Many thanks !!Just saw it and already tried it but unfortunately there is no success I'd the loops have completely different measure! Let's hope they will fix it in the future with an update. Please can you tell me if ... there is a way to have a break/fill in rythm drums with external foot switch ?
Notice after I saved with the instructions you gave played back in a warbled sort of way
is there a global setting for this or you have to do this for each memory separately?
There's no global settings for this, but you can save the basic settings in a memory slot and work from there every time you start a serial loop concept.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Thanks I appreciate the video and your response good sir!
Crazy that the boomerang has been able to do this for 10 years.
Absolutely true! But the boomerangs were hard to get in Europa, I must say.
I’ve repeated this process multiple times now and it still won’t switch tracks. Any advice on what I should do?
Check your control settings. If the pedal you try to assign for track change has another global function, that global function prevails. The settings can be found in menu - control, I believe.
It works man! Great. I've got the rc 500 for 2 hours now and it works. One question: can you tell me if it is possible to get my guitar parts / bass parts (my recordings and overdubbs) in time? I tried quantize . It was off and i turned it to measure. But it doen't change anything. There are often some timing issues .That is my own playing of course but I thought that it would be possible to quantize the recordings . In looping in general (with a single track looper too) it is difficult to be just in perfect time when you hit the record button. And the drumtrack seemed to be independent from my guitar recordings. So if the recording was pretty good (in time) and i change channel to 2 and hit the button just a hair to late it doesn sync (quantize ) in time. I had a hope it did. Hope you cab help me. Thanks. Are you Dutch btw ? Donkers sound Dutch ;) I am. If you are you can answer in Duch if you want. Regards Mike
Ha Mike, ik loop soms ook tegen wat synchronisatiefouten aan als ik de rhythm machine gebruik, ik zit daar nog een beetje mee te pielen. Als ik je een antwoord kan geven, laat ik het je weten.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Top, dank je. Ik heb wat zitten googlen en kwam iets over de functie loop s. (loop sync) tegen. Die kun je aanzetten . Ga ik nu proberen en kijken of dat helpt. Mocht jij iets ontdekken waardoor de opgenomen partijen perfect synchroniseren...ik hoor het graag. Groet,Mike
@@JeeWeeDonkers Hey JeeWee, ik ben ook aan het pielen geweest maar bleef aanlopen tegen het sync probleem soms. Soms ook niet. Ik heb wat contact gehad met Lindsay. Allereerst moet je in memory -rec-de quantize op "measure"zetten.(en de settings die jij al had ondekt. Loop s off etc. ) Daarna als volgt:
Hi Mike, once you have set everything as previously described, go into T1 and T2 and make sure MEASURE is set to AUTO on both tracks. Then save to a memory slot (example memory slot 10) This tells the looper to record loops of whatever length you like in sync with the rhythm, time signature and bpm set in other settings. They can be the same length, one can be shorter, one can be longer, doesn't matter, rhythm will sync, it will work perfectly. Great for a verse, chorus situation. Now, use this memory slot as your template for new recordings. What I mean by template, is don't record anything over it and save over it. Instead, useing our example of saving this template in memory slot 10 do this. Go into memory slot 10, immediately save it to another memory slot, say memory slot 11. Then record into that memory slot. This leaves your template in memory slot 10 unchanged. The reason to do this is that as soon as you record a loop the T1 and T2 setting in MEASURE will change to the number of measures you record ( because by recording we are telling the looper how many measures T1 and T2 are) So this works great for the first song, say T1 is 8 measures and T2 is 4 measures. But when you change to the next song, unless by coincidence they line up and T1 is 8 measures and T2 is 4 measures, things will get very, very messy. This is not a fault at all with the looper, its just a matter of understanding what is happening, depending on how we program it. The other way to clear the T1 and T2 measure lengths is to hold the right footswitch down until the light turns purple, then hold the centre button down to clear it back to the original template settings. Hope this helps
@@mikevanleeuwen2858 Cool, thanx for this. I haven't fumbled with quantize yet, but if that's the trick... I will test this myself as well.
@@mikevanleeuwen2858 Hey Mike, this has nearlynailed it, but you also need set T2 MEASURE to FREE and MEMORY - REC - LOOP LENGTH to AUTO. Only then you can make synchronized loops with different lengths.
When that is all set, it works brilliantly.
I will make a video asap!
I have had it for 4 hours and can’t figure out vers chorus correctly yet..I also use the 30 for long time
I sure hope the video was of any help.
Looks like i need an upgrade. Whats this badboy cost?
This one will set you back around €260
Is this possible with an RC-30 as well?
No, it is the reason why I bought myself the RC500
Indeed it isn't
Does this mean the drums will no longer auto detect your playing bpm ?
If you want them to start right away, no. There's nothing the drums can set the tempo on, right?
If you start recording a loop without drums and kick them in later, auto detection will function as normal.
@@JeeWeeDonkers thanks for the quick reply. So does that mean the drums will be at the chorus tempo or versus tempo?
That depends in what you record first. The RC will determine the tempo from the first recording.
Bit I also suggest you check this other video of mine, in which drums are included. ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.html
What is the purpose of switching from parallel to series looping?
The fact that you can switch to either loop sounding separately and that they can have different lengths definitely is sufficient purpose for me. The good thing about parallel loops is that you can have them play together, but sometimes you dont need just that.
@@JeeWeeDonkers thanks for the reply. But I think you're referring to switching from multi to single loops.
@@JeeWeeDonkers based on the manual and what I've been able to ascertain, switching to series just means that the output of track 1 runs through track 2. It's the signal chain. Different from what you're talking about - playing back loops consecutively vs concurrently.
Too bad boss doesn't provide a better instruction manual.
@@BadMofoMusicCritic I'm not sure whether the output of one loop if fed into the other in series mode, but I totally agree that the manual could be more clear indeed.
Hi. Please how i save the set? Thank You!
Press Exit and Enter simultaneously, then choose Write and choose the memory slot you want to save to.
@@JeeWeeDonkers yes sir just sortered out ! Thank You Man!
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Thank you!
With this settings it goes out of sync with rythm. Try stoping rythm while playback and then hit play (not in tempo) - it will be out of sync with recording(((. I can't solve this and it seems nobody can.
Did you check my video Sync to the Rhythm? That might work for you as well.
@@JeeWeeDonkers Yes, I watched both. Maybe i don't understand smth important, but the problem is: I have chorus of 16 measures and verse of 4 mesures - before rec it was as you recomend auto and free on tracks 1 and two correspondingly. If loop.sync is "on" then after my verse is over the chorus starts from the 5th measure - not from the first. If i switch-off loop.sync then it starts from the beginning, but if I stop the drums - and then hit them on again - it goes out of sync. So that you could understand - I'm trying to make Believer by imagine dragons - there you have to stop the rythm at the first measure of chorus.
Why not have those usefull and current settings already programmed in the machine?...of course you need to be able to do indpendent verse-chorus with a two track looper!!...
Absolutely true! A couple of pre-programmed patches for certain types of use would be extremely handy to get started.
I've been using an RC-20XL for live performances for years. My first one took a dump and I borrowed an RC-30 to check out. I hated it with a deep, abiding hate. It sucks. I've been using a used RC-20XL that my wife bought me and I'm always interested in what's on the horizon. As I'm typing this, you're chattering on this is the verse, this is the verse, and my head is hurting. Imma just go find another clean RC-20XL. Have fun, though.
Enjoy your RC20, they're great pieces of gear. The most important thing is that you can do your thing with it.
I just noticed after I go through the steps you have mentioned and then I go to play it back it’s worbbly
That doesn't sound good... Can you explain a bit more what you hear?
@@JeeWeeDonkers yes thank you for responding I go through the instructions for serial loop 1 loops off ,2 loop off,play mode single, trackchain,series -save it. switches between the two tracks very well as long as I don’t turn off the RC 500 or save then turn off. When I turn the RC 500 back on after being off, one of the tracks comes back wobbly or worbley, as though one of the tracks is out of sync just like when you turn the BPM after you recorded something on drums kind of warbles. Please help I just bought this RC 500 and I wanted to work well
@@ziggy9497 I tried to replicate your problem, and indeed after turning off the device, the loop tempo has been changed, affecting the recorded sound in a modulated of wobbly manner. I think the problem you describe only occurs when you record with the rhythm machine off.
You can overcome this problem by selecting TEMPO.S OFF on both tracks. In that way a (either user or device enforced) tempo setting will not affect the recorded audio of the tracks.
@@JeeWeeDonkers wow after work I’m going to give that a try thank you may I’ll let you know how it works out?
@@ziggy9497 please do!
If you record on top of a rhythm section it will go out of sync. I tried 10000 times. Do you know why?
Check this other video of mine: ruclips.net/video/S-pqgi_PvXs/видео.html
Thanks much man. Ill check it out
When I do that, the sync with my Beatbuddy pedal goes away.
That's too bad. Unfortunately I can't help you with this, I have no experience with the BeatBuddy
Great explanation! Forgive me for also appreciating your wonderful Mandy Potempkin accent. He obviously stole yours, unless you both hail from Chicago.
Any time!
Now all I need to do is google Mandy Potempkin.. ;-)
@@JeeWeeDonkers princess bride movie: “my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die..”
@@JeeWeeDonkers darn-Patinkin is the right spelling. RUclips’ autocorrect.
@@Firstinversion899 I found him. Now I try to hear my accent.. ;-)
@@JeeWeeDonkers yeah, somehow I heard yours as his attempt at a Spaniard. I think I’m the only one. Great accent anyway!
Some some people used to say give me the bridge y’all
Ha! I'm afraid this looper isn't up to that!
But to be honest, I usually stop all tracks and play a bridge live, tapdancing my way to the chorus or verse following the bridge.
You could also buy an RC300 or 505 for that... Three (or five) channels!
But then again, how many bridges would one want to loop, right?
@@JeeWeeDonkers Do you keep time by tapping your foot? Does it take ractise to get back to the chorus in correct time?
@@PrsOrianthiSE It sure does take some practice to get the timing just right, but some people have more difficulty picking it up than others. Tapping your foot always helps!
I had easier control over the RC30's big switches than I have now with the RC500, I have to admit.
dude
Ok, now show us, how to do this with the rhythm section in sync. Cheers
That's the problem....
@@zurutxo So, it can't do it, as the titel suggests. But there is a much better way to achieve the verse/chorus approach. All you need is an additional footswitch to controll patch up/down. Then use one patch for your verse and the next patch number for chorus. When you change the patch, the current loop runs until the end, then starts the loop on the next patch immediately, vice versa. The benefit is, you have total conrol over everything without compromises.
@@LothyBluesCave Using subsequent patches require recording on forehand, otherwise you lose the recorded content of a track as soon as you switch to another.
I will give it a shot with the internal rhythm module, but I admit I hardly ever use that. If you are referring to an external (human) rhythm section: that is ALWAYS a problem using a looper ;-)
@@JeeWeeDonkers According to parameter guide, problem appears to be that QUANTIZE will only work on tracks with LOOP.S set to ON. If you have LOOP.S set to ON then, you get into the loop length mess. If LOOP.S is set to OFF then you don't have QUANTIZE and your timing would need to be perfect to align with rhythm. I think there needs to be a way to allow quantize to RHYTHM on record, but still have tracks always start from beginning. This kinda also means you can only switch tracks when current on ends, which I think makes sense if you want to stay in sync with rhythm.
I may have made a mistake in purchasing the 500. My songs will benefit from the 600.
I am sorry if that is the case. Some looping ambitions require more than the 500 can offer.
it's pity you cannot change it in only one click unfortunately
Define "it" 🤔
@@JeeWeeDonkers I meant one click to stop the verse and start the chorus immediately, and vice versa. it's undoable to clisk ''track slct'' then ''recplay'' while singing.
oh no... ! with two kicks?
Thought that if track 2 is playing, and you hit the track select switch, it would automatically jump back to track 1 when track 2 is finished.
But you have to kick track 1 button too?
Wow, can´t believe this! If so, quite disappointing actually...
it's not a matter of disappointment really, it's a matter of preference. you can program it that way too.
Why are they playing around with 2 track still? This should be 4. This is just silly. The RC-600 has 3 but it's very large and very expensive. I just don't get the thinking. I feel like I'm in the 1900's.
The 300 is way better
In what respect? It has one more channel, so is it 50% better because of that? ;-)
??? WAY TOO COMPLICATED. This is not standard musical language. Obviously the people at Boss who make these loopers aren't real musicians --- they are computer programmers and electronics technicians. Someone needs to explain to them that what musicians need is a looper with BAR STRUCTURES that are the basis of 99% of popular music. Whether it's 8 bar-12-bar-16 bar- folk/blues/country/rock and roll, or 32 bar form of classic jazz standards etc, they need to speak musically. What you are demonstrating with "Verse-Chorus" is way too limited. We need the ability to create song forms easily, and this is not the way. We need to write "A-B-A" or "A-B-C-A" or "A-B-A-B" or "A-B-C-D" or other standard variations including "Intro" and "Outro" etc.
Fair enough and I definitely don't want to defend Boss approach for two track looping. 😅
If you want to work with more complicated loops, try the RC600. This will give you 6 independent loops in series or parallel, whatever you desire. Or get yourself a Sheeran unit for triple the price.
My approach shown here is to illustrate the fact that you can use verse-chorus looping even if you don't know the amount of measures for every part, for instance when improvising (which I do a lot).
I don't use pre recorded loops. Intros and outros - even bridges - aren't usually played multiple times, so I don't needs loops for that.
@@livepoetssociety-NL and by the way, this 👆🏼 is me too.