This particular incident didn’t happen to me but we did have a case of too much power. I work for a railway in NY near Manhattan and one day the yard job decided to try and switch out an inbound stone train with a set of 4 road engines, all Sd40s and a set of our MP15s, all engines online. The different loading speeds and draft gears in the knuckles caused so much opposing force that the track underneath was pushed out and destroyed causing massive damage to the gear boxes and knuckles. So yes, there is a thing as too much power.
4:33 Here's a bit more info on these CP heritage units: There were indeed 10 of them painted, however... -5 of them were painted in the "Script" scheme (7010 - 7014,) but CP 7011 was unfortunately wrecked, and what was left of it was scrapped. -5 of them are in the "Block" scheme (7015 - 7019,) but fortunately all of them are still in service. I am commenting this before I've watched the whole video, so you might have mentioned some of the info.
Railroads have rules in place to ensure you don't have too many powered axles online when moving trains, especially when switching. The size and HP of the locomotive determines its powered axle rating, more are allowed for pulls than shoves, even less for dynamic braking, etc. it's just to eliminate wear and tear and try to prevent buff/draft forces from getting too high. The issue with switching with these big road units is they are slow. The computer takes a long time to respond to throttle movements compared to say an SD40 or GP38, ones that are designed for multi purpose use. These are built for the long haul, not yard switching
I’m not an engineer but with how old the tracks laid in a lot of rail yards are, I can imagine it’d do a great deal of damage to the roadbed and the tracks and ties themselves. A rail yard I used to work at had tracks that were laid in 1910
A lot of those boxcars come out of Cedar Rapids from the CRANDIC line. I believe the full-recycle International Paper plant on the south side uses them to transport raw materials and they might even send out the finished product that way too.
On the siding here in Albuquerque that connects the ATSF 2926 restoration site and several industrial customers (steel and lumber yards) to the main line, BNSF won’t send anything larger than four axle locomotives due to the construction and condition of the siding.
I actually caught those two KCS geeps and a pair of IPD boxcars shown in this video on a train that terminated in Davenport just a week before this video was released
Actually, one of the Maroon & Grey units were wrecked not too long ago. I’m not sure if it was deemed a total loss or not but I would have to assume yes.
That 7013 use to be an EMD SD90. At up we are only allowed to have 12 powered axle in use while switching. The main problem it can cause using More than that it kicking out a light car like an empty cement hopper or empty well or flat car.
Honestly if you find yourself east stop be peru or lasalle illinois we have 7 railroad crossing giving plently of time to hear it,a clasic rock island depot with the logo still present and iowa goes under a ex illinois central grubar line bridge
I have watched a few videos of this channel and i am noticing combustion engine locomotives and unelectrified railroads, are all/majority of locomotives in US are combustion and railroad not electrified? If yes, why?
Yes, all rail lines in the US except for some public transport and the Iowa Traction Railroad use Internal combustion. For railroads as big and remote as the ones in the US, it would basically be impossible to electrify at this point. It would be far too expensive, take way too long, and barely offer any benefits. Also, new electric freight locomotives would have to be designed and implemented which would again cost a fortune. As for smaller railroads, they don’t have the money to develop new locomotives or built catenary lines. And finally, I don’t think the US’s power grid could handle that kind of strain, as it was not built with nationwide electric railroads in mind.
the IAIS controls a QJ-class 2-10-2 steam locomotive, #6988. 6988 is currently down for repairs (if IAIS got the money to make repairs) after its last FRA 1472-day inspection. When 6988 is out on an excursion, pulling only passenger cars, typically a 700-series locomotive will be at the opposite end of the train. That way the train can be run in reverse by putting the steamer in neutral. With Chinese steam locomotives, I think they are so ancient that they don't have a true reverser. They are also good for braking, and in case the steamer suffers a catastrophic mechanical breakdown. I once asked Henry Posner, the CEO of the company that owns IAIS, why not put 513 on the opposite end of the steam excursion trains. He told me the 500-series are too powerful for that light of a train. It would tear the passenger cars apart. I'm certainly not in a position to argue.
The QJ are not ancient, they were built in the 1980's. In fact they are newer than the 700-seires GP-38's by 10-15 years. The QJ has full reverse capability. We use the 700's on the opposite end because most of our passenger runs are out-and-back trips. The locomotive on the rear enables us to have an engineer on both ends controlling the movement, thus allowing a maximum authorized speed in both directions. Not to contradict my boss, but there is no reason we couldn't use a 500-series unit on the passenger trains, except for the fact that it would be a waste of horesepower that could be best used making money pulling freight elsewhere. They are much more fuel efficient and environmentally friendlier as well, so having them in freight service is a much better economic and environmental option.
The small portion of the Milwaukee Road that Iowa Interstate operates (and dispatches) is actually owned by the Cedar Rapids and Iowa City Railroad (Crandic). The Milwaukee did operate a portion of what is now the IAIS after the Rock Island's demise, but they didn't do so willingly. Just not much MILW heritage at IAIS.
A track warrant is a written authority to occupy the main track. They are issued to the movement (whether a train or maintenance-of-way on-track equipment) by the train dispatcher. Basically the track warrant grants authority to occupy the main track between two points. Typically the track warrant is read over the radio by the dispatcher. The train crew copies the information on to a pre-printed form and then reads it back to the dispatcher who checks it for accuracy. Once it is confirmed that the crew has copied and and read back the warrant correctly, the train dispatcher gives the OK time (the time the warrant goes into effect) and the dispatcher's initials.
A track warrant is a written authority to occupy the main track. They are issued to the movement (whether a train or maintenance-of-way on-track equipment) by the train dispatcher. Basically the track warrant grants authority to occupy the main track between two points. Typically the track warrant is read over the radio by the dispatcher. The train crew copies the information on to a pre-printed form and then reads it back to the dispatcher who checks it for accuracy. Once it is confirmed that the crew has copied and and read back the warrant correctly, the train dispatcher gives the OK time (the time the warrant goes into effect) and the dispatcher's initials.
CP does have some predecessor railroads that survived into the diesel era, the Soo Line, the Milwaukee, the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo, The Duluth, South Shore and Atlantic. I am partial to the Soo Line colors having started with the Soo, but the DSS&A scheme would look great on a modern locomotive. Anything beats CP's horrible primer gray "military scheme'. Just their way of saving money on red paint. 🤮
That's not entirely true. Cp does have at least one Fallen flag predecessor. And that the Delaware and Hudson. Cp bought the D&H in 1991. But still. Amazing video
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Hey I work at cpkc nahant yard as a carman, very cool to see my yard on your channel.
That’s super cool!
I used to work for CP and had been to Nahant when I was on the rail gang
Highlight of my day was watching this video
Same
Your accent and voice are built for narration. Doesn’t hurt that you get good footage. What ever your doing keep doing it because it’s really awesome!
Watching this at 1:30AM in the morning with no sleep. So worth it watching this video!
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@@RailfanVinceI did too but at 12:00 am rewatched with some sleep
Brother I would have done that
Lmao
if its Southern Plains Railfan i see why not stay up that late
Form of Art! Loved the paint schemes on the Iowa Interstate and CP
This particular incident didn’t happen to me but we did have a case of too much power. I work for a railway in NY near Manhattan and one day the yard job decided to try and switch out an inbound stone train with a set of 4 road engines, all Sd40s and a set of our MP15s, all engines online. The different loading speeds and draft gears in the knuckles caused so much opposing force that the track underneath was pushed out and destroyed causing massive damage to the gear boxes and knuckles. So yes, there is a thing as too much power.
Thank you; not only for the train videos, but also for the RR background stories you put along with them.
4:33 Here's a bit more info on these CP heritage units:
There were indeed 10 of them painted, however...
-5 of them were painted in the "Script" scheme (7010 - 7014,) but CP 7011 was unfortunately wrecked, and what was left of it was scrapped.
-5 of them are in the "Block" scheme (7015 - 7019,) but fortunately all of them are still in service.
I am commenting this before I've watched the whole video, so you might have mentioned some of the info.
Railroads have rules in place to ensure you don't have too many powered axles online when moving trains, especially when switching. The size and HP of the locomotive determines its powered axle rating, more are allowed for pulls than shoves, even less for dynamic braking, etc. it's just to eliminate wear and tear and try to prevent buff/draft forces from getting too high.
The issue with switching with these big road units is they are slow. The computer takes a long time to respond to throttle movements compared to say an SD40 or GP38, ones that are designed for multi purpose use. These are built for the long haul, not yard switching
Great catch lately ACUs are becoming popular now you can almost see them everywhere now thanks for the background history very cool.
Huge IAIS fan!!! Awesome video!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
8:42 i love the seattle and north coast
Another Great Video thanks you! You sure Got a good eye for train spotting and yup I reckon that's abit of Abstract art
I’m not an engineer but with how old the tracks laid in a lot of rail yards are, I can imagine it’d do a great deal of damage to the roadbed and the tracks and ties themselves. A rail yard I used to work at had tracks that were laid in 1910
That CP heritage unit is definitely a sweet catch! I wish BNSF would do full repaints like that, not just sticker units.
CPKC Heritage Units are Sweet
Agreed!
Seeing WC boxcars always brings a smile to my face.
A lot of those boxcars come out of Cedar Rapids from the CRANDIC line. I believe the full-recycle International Paper plant on the south side uses them to transport raw materials and they might even send out the finished product that way too.
On the siding here in Albuquerque that connects the ATSF 2926 restoration site and several industrial customers (steel and lumber yards) to the main line, BNSF won’t send anything larger than four axle locomotives due to the construction and condition of the siding.
Rock Island heritage init is awesome ❤
I actually caught those two KCS geeps and a pair of IPD boxcars shown in this video on a train that terminated in Davenport just a week before this video was released
CP actually had several predecessor, such as the SOO Line and Milwaukee Road
Toronto Hamilton and buffalo is missing
The quad city area is one of my favorite vacation spots.
Great video so far from me in Australia!
Thank you!
Great video, and very informative!
Thank you!
Great Catches
Seattle & North Coast 🎉. Love it!
Actually, one of the Maroon & Grey units were wrecked not too long ago. I’m not sure if it was deemed a total loss or not but I would have to assume yes.
It was a total loss, the wreck was pretty severe.
I’ve seen the same Canadian pacific engine, except for its number is 7014 an awesome catch on the Rock Island engine, and caboose
Very cool and historic!
Dont worry, the CPKC paint sceme, when unveiled will probably be good. Personally, I would like to see them all grey ghosts.
I did look up the paint sceme on their web site. The front 2/3 or so was hightlighted in black and the rest in red.
Come to El Paso, and you'll see big road diesels switching almost daily on the UP and the BNSF!
That 7013 use to be an EMD SD90. At up we are only allowed to have 12 powered axle in use while switching. The main problem it can cause using More than that it kicking out a light car like an empty cement hopper or empty well or flat car.
I caught heritage unit CP 7019 up here in upstate New Yorka few summers ago, pretty cool seeing something other than the Canadian red
Nice video there SPR with all the heritage around
An amazing experience
1:23 I have actually seen that unit in the BNSF Spokane yard
I saw it at BNSF Northtown yard
Yeah no predessor, however most railroads have paint schemes of fallen flags. Defunct Soo Line, Milwaukee Road etc..
Honestly if you find yourself east stop be peru or lasalle illinois we have 7 railroad crossing giving plently of time to hear it,a clasic rock island depot with the logo still present and iowa goes under a ex illinois central grubar line bridge
I have watched a few videos of this channel and i am noticing combustion engine locomotives and unelectrified railroads, are all/majority of locomotives in US are combustion and railroad not electrified? If yes, why?
Yes, all rail lines in the US except for some public transport and the Iowa Traction Railroad use Internal combustion. For railroads as big and remote as the ones in the US, it would basically be impossible to electrify at this point. It would be far too expensive, take way too long, and barely offer any benefits. Also, new electric freight locomotives would have to be designed and implemented which would again cost a fortune. As for smaller railroads, they don’t have the money to develop new locomotives or built catenary lines. And finally, I don’t think the US’s power grid could handle that kind of strain, as it was not built with nationwide electric railroads in mind.
I saw 7013’s sister 7014 In Las Vegas,Nevada back on December 22,2022
Heritage Units were the Best thing out of the Railroads in a long time. Not sure Why CSX was also Slow with Painting Heritage Locomotives ? 🤔🤪
Hey man, next time you come by if at all, I’d love to help you track trains in the area.
There is only 9 of those CPKC heritage units left at 7011 derailed and got scrapped
i’ve seen 513 a few weeks ago
switching with wide bodies is a pain... but doable (track warrant territory = dark territory basically)
I grew up with this railroad..👉🏻
the IAIS controls a QJ-class 2-10-2 steam locomotive, #6988. 6988 is currently down for repairs (if IAIS got the money to make repairs) after its last FRA 1472-day inspection. When 6988 is out on an excursion, pulling only passenger cars, typically a 700-series locomotive will be at the opposite end of the train. That way the train can be run in reverse by putting the steamer in neutral. With Chinese steam locomotives, I think they are so ancient that they don't have a true reverser. They are also good for braking, and in case the steamer suffers a catastrophic mechanical breakdown. I once asked Henry Posner, the CEO of the company that owns IAIS, why not put 513 on the opposite end of the steam excursion trains. He told me the 500-series are too powerful for that light of a train. It would tear the passenger cars apart. I'm certainly not in a position to argue.
The QJ are not ancient, they were built in the 1980's. In fact they are newer than the 700-seires GP-38's by 10-15 years. The QJ has full reverse capability. We use the 700's on the opposite end because most of our passenger runs are out-and-back trips. The locomotive on the rear enables us to have an engineer on both ends controlling the movement, thus allowing a maximum authorized speed in both directions. Not to contradict my boss, but there is no reason we couldn't use a 500-series unit on the passenger trains, except for the fact that it would be a waste of horesepower that could be best used making money pulling freight elsewhere. They are much more fuel efficient and environmentally friendlier as well, so having them in freight service is a much better economic and environmental option.
How did the heritage unit thing start?
I wish Iowa Interstate would make heritage unit for The Milwaukee Road as I have not seen one on any video.
The Milwaukee didn’t contribute to Iowa Interstates creation. Like many small railroads, their tracks, are almost 100% former Rock Island.
The small portion of the Milwaukee Road that Iowa Interstate operates (and dispatches) is actually owned by the Cedar Rapids and Iowa City Railroad (Crandic). The Milwaukee did operate a portion of what is now the IAIS after the Rock Island's demise, but they didn't do so willingly. Just not much MILW heritage at IAIS.
There aren't any action red/multimark heritage units
Zoomed in photo of a locomotive.
What is track warrants? Robert
A track warrant is a written authority to occupy the main track. They are issued to the movement (whether a train or maintenance-of-way on-track equipment) by the train dispatcher. Basically the track warrant grants authority to occupy the main track between two points. Typically the track warrant is read over the radio by the dispatcher. The train crew copies the information on to a pre-printed form and then reads it back to the dispatcher who checks it for accuracy. Once it is confirmed that the crew has copied and and read back the warrant correctly, the train dispatcher gives the OK time (the time the warrant goes into effect) and the dispatcher's initials.
CPKC could buy the Iowa Interstate in the near future.
What is a track warrant
A track warrant is a written authority to occupy the main track. They are issued to the movement (whether a train or maintenance-of-way on-track equipment) by the train dispatcher. Basically the track warrant grants authority to occupy the main track between two points. Typically the track warrant is read over the radio by the dispatcher. The train crew copies the information on to a pre-printed form and then reads it back to the dispatcher who checks it for accuracy. Once it is confirmed that the crew has copied and and read back the warrant correctly, the train dispatcher gives the OK time (the time the warrant goes into effect) and the dispatcher's initials.
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CP does have some predecessor railroads that survived into the diesel era, the Soo Line, the Milwaukee, the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo, The Duluth, South Shore and Atlantic. I am partial to the Soo Line colors having started with the Soo, but the DSS&A scheme would look great on a modern locomotive. Anything beats CP's horrible primer gray "military scheme'. Just their way of saving money on red paint. 🤮
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That's not entirely true. Cp does have at least one Fallen flag predecessor. And that the Delaware and Hudson. Cp bought the D&H in 1991.
But still. Amazing video
Why so much graffiti on rail cars?
I HATE this video!