ULTIMATE IN VEHICLE COMPRESSOR!! Arb Twin VS Tjm Pro Series Twin Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @mitchwatkins8564
    @mitchwatkins8564 2 года назад +11

    The TJM single has been awesome for the last 2 years so no surprise that the new twin is a good unit. Great to see a comparison.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Super happy with the tjm, the arb is definitely a great unit and if you were running big tanks the higher pressure rating on the switch would definitely help inflation times

    • @timeout3532
      @timeout3532 7 месяцев назад

      Likewise, I've had my TJM single for over 3yrs and haven't had any issues. I run 35's and front and rear TJM lockers. Wouldn't mind the twins, but seeing as the single is still good, I'll stick with it.

  • @GrabLifeByTheGourlays
    @GrabLifeByTheGourlays Год назад +2

    I just got the Y62 a few weeks ago and took it to Ontrack 4x4 who said they do TJM compressors now with their installs because of ongoing complaints from customers about ARB which I had no idea about and your comparison just confirms it! In saying that, I previously had the single ARB compressor with nil issues though it did get hot! Awesome work guys!

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +2

      Your going to love the y62 mate. I think the single arb might not get as hot around the electrical components as they aren’t in the valley like on the twin and the heat causes the issues
      The tjm are an amazing compressor still happy as a pig in 💩 now with it

    • @GrabLifeByTheGourlays
      @GrabLifeByTheGourlays Год назад +1

      @@4x4brothers good to know 🤙🏽

  • @mikemcd6093
    @mikemcd6093 11 месяцев назад +3

    Good video. After watching this imma get a TJM. The reason its slower airing up the smaller tires on the vehicle it due to the added weight of the vehicle. the compressors have to work harder to fight against the additional pressure from the weight vs the tires that are off the vehicle.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  11 месяцев назад +1

      Good choice the tjm is a great compressor and a few of our crew now run them and love it.
      Yep the answer was so obvious as to why it was slower on the car we just didn’t think of it at the time haha 🤦‍♂️

  • @mrlautomotive712
    @mrlautomotive712 5 месяцев назад +2

    I use the ARB twin pump for a decade in my service van, used daily to pump various vehicle tyres, it’s never failed and I wouldn’t touch anything else. With the ARB tank it pumps any tyre faster than the air compressor at the servos.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  5 месяцев назад +1

      They are a pretty good compressor since making this video though we have heard so many and now seen a few personally arb fail. The tjm definitely seems to be a winner if you do get a chance to look at one mate

  • @boy2424100
    @boy2424100 2 года назад +3

    Wow love it I am glad you got to the point amd gave prices on what everything costs individually awesome keep it up

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      Cheers mate appreciated. Also ended up being the relays on the arb the fault. Have heard of a few with the same issue since

    • @boy2424100
      @boy2424100 2 года назад +1

      Brother thank you for the reply back 🙏 but awesome 👌 work many thanks 😊

  • @SomervilleMetalWorks
    @SomervilleMetalWorks 2 года назад +3

    I've had no dramas with my ARB Compressor. My biggest issue with pumping up tyres is kneeling down or constantly holding a trigger or checking every 20secs where the pressure is at. I've got the ARB Lynx System even with all it flaws and it has a lot. Using an indeflate, setting pressure on lynx and pumping up 2 tyres at once, takes all the shit parts out of pumping up tyres. I've saw someone on facebook had installed quick connects in every wheel well and then individual short hoses to each tyre seems like my kind of setup, doing all 4 at once

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      I think we might have just got unlucky. Being able to do all 4 tyres at one time would be perfect and a system that monitors the pressure

  • @CocoJumbo23
    @CocoJumbo23 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi from Cyprus guys ! I 'm waiting for my TJM Pro Series Twin Air Compressor and also a TJM Pro Series Air Tank 5L at the end of February. Your video was very enlightening and cleared any doubts i had. Although i ordered TJM Pro Series Air Tank Airline Kit and TJM Pro Series Airline Kit. Can't wait to test them 😉👍

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  11 месяцев назад +1

      Gday from across the globe. You’re going to be happy with your choice mate. A few of the boys now have upgraded their compressors to one of the tjm also now. Glad the video could be of some help mate

    • @CocoJumbo23
      @CocoJumbo23 11 месяцев назад

      When i have them fitted on my Challenger i will inform you 😉 Thanks mate once again for the video. Keep going 👍

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@CocoJumbo23 absolutely mate would love to hear how you find it

  • @patrickmullett7346
    @patrickmullett7346 2 года назад +4

    I replaced the part on my ARB tyre inflator that connects the the tyre valve to a “LOCK ON AIR CHUCK STANDARD VALVE” from air tec direct, found with the standard one I always had to hold pressure on it to keep air going into the tyre.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Legend mate, was having a similar issue I'll look into that one you have as well

    • @mathewcampbell8479
      @mathewcampbell8479 2 года назад +1

      I've done the same P/N H -5265-OP. It's a game changer for your back!

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      @@mathewcampbell8479 champion mate 👌

    • @peterj5751
      @peterj5751 Год назад

      Does the thread for lock on air valve match up to the one on the arb hose or do you need an adaptor of some sort? I also hate the standard air chuck for the same reasons you mention.

    • @peterj5751
      @peterj5751 Год назад

      @@mathewcampbell8479 does this screw onto the thread on the end of the tail of the arb inflator or does it need some form of adaptor?

  • @johnnumbat9782
    @johnnumbat9782 8 месяцев назад +1

    No surprise of the outcome with ARB technical fault - a camp colleague has gone through two Twin ARB compressors after both failed within a short time and he knows how to use them with quality hoses and fittings including a storage tank - he took the second one apart and discovered a lot of ‘made in China’ components - so he decided to get a TJM twin compressor this time and it’s worked very well over several mths now.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  8 месяцев назад

      Since we made this video did hear a lot of stories of people having very similar issues from the electrical components which is a bit disappointing. The tjm is absolutely faultless and would definitely choose that again every time. A fair few in our crew now run that compressor also

    • @johnnumbat9782
      @johnnumbat9782 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@4x4brothers spot on guys - It appears ARB may have some dodgy ethics too so I don’t buy any of their products.

  • @jasper287
    @jasper287 2 года назад +1

    I had the same issue with my arb twin ended up installing 2x 80amp relays and no more issues

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      I think it's the location too. Installing them external away from the heat should fix it too

  • @jimmaier3600
    @jimmaier3600 2 года назад +1

    ive had the arb for
    10 years has never let me down it must be i got a good one

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      I think we might have been unlucky, but have had a few msgs of people having the same issue with relays

  • @NasTime01
    @NasTime01 Год назад +1

    Good realistic comparison. Shame about the ARB. I did not see that coming.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +1

      We have heard the problem with the arb is fairly common since, think it might be the heat build up. Relocation of the relays externally or changing them to 80a seems to prevent the issue

  • @sydneyraj
    @sydneyraj 2 года назад +2

    Once reputation for reliability is established, large companies tend to cut costs by altering manufacturing procedures, like outsourcing for e.g. ARB might have done that.
    TJM weighing 50% more than ARB is no good as weight in every item in car quickly adds up.
    I have already done gvm upgrade to 4080kg in my Y62 S5 Patrol.
    Pick any item you carry and find an equivalent item with less weight and compare the cost. If you want the same strength and functionality it will cost heaps more.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +2

      Weight is definitely a big consideration these days with weights of cars. And I think it's a issue with where the relays sit and the heat that caused the issue. Mounting them external would fix that

  • @DarrenFJ
    @DarrenFJ 2 года назад +1

    Even faster pumping 2 tyres at once to make use of that flow rate .. I use the Maxtrax Indeflate with the Schrader valve removed (the bottleneck). I run the ARB twins under the bonnet 👍

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Thats definitely something worth looking into mate, do you find the time if you took into account running the hoses, removing the valve etc still faster ?

    • @DarrenFJ
      @DarrenFJ 2 года назад +1

      Permanently removed the valve from the Indeflate not the tires. I pump up the two fronts they end up balanced (same psi) then move around to the back.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      @@DarrenFJ ah gotcha. Might look into that setup

  • @robertgrayson3394
    @robertgrayson3394 2 года назад +1

    I Love my ARB twin but..... on my 2nd failure in 9 years now and I am considering giving the TJM twin go if I can fit it in rear qtr panel of my 200 series. First failure was fixed under warranty and was one motor. This one is both motors and its an absolute mission too remove my custom rear set up to get it out so very uneasy about putting another in there. I use mine frequently and its often doing eight tyres with OffRoad van in tow.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      After a fair bit of use since making this video mate we both agree if you can fit the tjm we would go that every time.
      It stays cool even after doing 8 tyres.
      Have heard zero reports of a failure on the tjm but since putting this out have had lots of people message us with the same problems of the relays failing.

    • @robertgrayson3394
      @robertgrayson3394 2 года назад +1

      @@4x4brothers Cheers mate, I am definitely going to try and go this way.

  • @mikemorgan4670
    @mikemorgan4670 2 года назад +1

    Hey Bros!! Really good comparison test, realistic scenario. Totally surprised the ARB choaked out.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Cheers mate, yeah we figured best to test how they would be used. I think we were just unlucky with the relays hey

    • @mikemorgan4670
      @mikemorgan4670 2 года назад

      @@4x4brothers Fair enough. Let us know what the final verdict and solution is for the ARB?

  • @granthugo8472
    @granthugo8472 2 года назад +2

    Is the “lack of performance” going to on vehicle tyres have something to do with 3.5t of weight sitting on them?

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Did think about that too after we finished editing the video. I think it's either the weight or pressure sensors one of them two that made the smaller tyres slower.
      I should have taken one off and tried the difference

  • @stevesallaussieadventures5648
    @stevesallaussieadventures5648 2 года назад +1

    I’m all for the arb 👌

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      Is a great compressor for it's size

  • @LockyourHubs4WDing
    @LockyourHubs4WDing 2 года назад +3

    Great review Gents!
    Very similar results to what I got. It was a shame the ARB relay quit, though I think it's an unusual failure for them.
    I still like the ARB with a tanks for better performance (I use two old 9kg fire extinguishers under the sills. ) Though I wonder if you could swap out the pressure switch in the TJM to even up the playing field with tanks.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +4

      Cheers mate. We have had a msg with someone with the same relay issue but like we said there are so many of them out there the percentage of failed would be very low we would think.
      If you have the room for tanks arb with higher pressure is a big advantage but we have also seen tests done and with a smaller tank makes zero difference so if space is tight they ain't really worth having hey.
      Would definitely be interesting to see if you could up the pressure on the tjm

    • @MrScotjon
      @MrScotjon 2 года назад +2

      @@4x4brothers I've just had this issue for the 2nd time on my compressor, so it doesn't seem that rare. Not sure if it's the same motor that is running on. I notice your compressor also has the surges in between filling tyres. I've also had mine blow fuses twice, so it seems to have a few strange gremlins. Mine doesn't get used much, only 2 or 3 times a year.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      @@MrScotjon yeah seems like a pretty common problem. A fix people have been doing is upgrading the relays to 80a ones or moving them external of the compressor away from the heat

    • @toddhoffmaster6057
      @toddhoffmaster6057 Год назад

      @@4x4brothers My dual ARB is having the same issue of intermittent working. The relay is not sticking on - but it actually is shutting off after it builds up heat. Luckily it only does it on 1 compressor. I am going to do what you suggested and order some 80a relays and then swap them out. Fingers crossed that this fixes the problem.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад

      @@toddhoffmaster6057 bit of a pain hey, even if you can try mount them external away from the heat of the compressor

  • @stephenh7965
    @stephenh7965 2 года назад +2

    Never had an issue with my ARB double and given the quality of the parts they use that's really weird. I am not a fan of any tank in the system it's almost always going to be empty so you are pumping up the tank and the tyre at the same time. If you want to run some air tools then having a tank is useful.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      They are definitely a good product for how compact they are too. Do a pretty good job at inflation.
      Tanks are only good if they are quite big otherwise like you say makes no difference to inflating as you have to fill the tank

  • @patrollocal
    @patrollocal 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the review lads. Been wondering about the TJM. Look forward to hearing how Mick goes with ARB and what the fault was.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +3

      The TJM twin was kicking ass mate, the fault was the relays on the ARB compressor. Took it back and they fixed it under warranty, it’s fitted in the Nav now so hopefully it lasts

    • @patrollocal
      @patrollocal 2 года назад +2

      @@4x4brothers Awesome. Glad to hear its back in the Nav and working away. I reckon you will be fine with the ARB. Plenty of them out there and with a smaller footprint and price compared to the TJM, you can't go wrong. Dave just has too much disposable income :P

    • @robertmillar2037
      @robertmillar2037 2 года назад +2

      My arb twin is a bit hit and miss.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      @@patrollocal haha na was just brother rivalry and Dave drew the short straw to buy the more expensive one 🤣

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      @@robertmillar2037 what dramas have you had mate?

  • @TravelExplore4x4
    @TravelExplore4x4 2 года назад +1

    Good work guys. I had wondered if it was worth the TJM but not sure how that fits in the rear quarter of the Y62.
    Also the difference with pumping the tyres up on the car could be because the weight of the car putting the extra pressure on the tyres.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      Cheers mate.
      Bloody good compressor the tjm. It's definitely alot bigger. Would be interesting to see if it fits in that rear quarter. Be a good out of the way place

    • @jakeyoungker
      @jakeyoungker Год назад +1

      Pressure is pressure when it comes to compressors. The vehicle sitting on its tires does not make it harder to inflate to the set psi however if you raise the vehicle up the pressure may drop a few PSI

    • @TravelExplore4x4
      @TravelExplore4x4 Год назад +1

      @@jakeyoungker yep I agree that pressure is pressure. My thought was that if you have more weight on something and you are trying to pump it up to a certain PSI that compressor is working harder to push the air in as the extra weight is trying to force the air out of the tyre at the same time.
      So filling up a tyre with no weight on it I thought would be easier on the compressor so means it would go a bit quicker. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @furai333
      @furai333 Год назад

      ​@@TravelExplore4x4 No you're right, I had this issue with a ride on mower, took forever to pump up a flat tyre sitting on the ground, soon as we jacked it up off the ground it was done in under a minute. Try it with a wheelbarrow wheel flat and loaded up vs empty. If it wasn't the sensor restrictions definitely would be the weight of the vehicle. Mine does 2:30 for two tyres on an indeflate from 20-40psi on the car. Couldn't be happier with it.

  • @jimmaier
    @jimmaier 7 месяцев назад +1

    arb for ten years never a problem. runs air lockers, air tools, air jack and just keeps going

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  7 месяцев назад

      Single or the twin mate? Most of the issues we have come across are the twins and more so a bit newer than 10 years so I wonder if something changed in the building process

  • @chiimchim7987
    @chiimchim7987 5 месяцев назад +1

    How is the Tjm holding up? Is the arb still in use, was it fixed and now still going? Im asking because im about to buy a dual compressor, was going get arb, but watching this has made me reconsider. What was warranty like with arb for the compressor. Sorry for questions, just want to make right choice. Where did you mount your tjm in your patrol. Thanks in advance for answers

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  5 месяцев назад +1

      Gday mate.
      The arb is still in the Nav and got fixed under warranty no issues. Since the ep we have seen 2 other arb dual comps fail personally and been told of a heap more also. The tjm on the other hand haven’t heard one bad word said about it and I absolutely love it in the patrol. It’s quiet, don’t get hot and pretty fast. A few more of the crew have purchased tjm since and all couldn’t be happier. I’ve got it mounted on the back of the drawer system and a braided line to the rear of the car. The braided line that comes off the compressor don’t get hot and you can touch it after pumping up the car tyres no issue. Hope this helps mate

    • @chiimchim7987
      @chiimchim7987 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@4x4brothers thanks so much for replying, yeah it does help, tjm for the go by the sounds of things. I'm glad I asked, was going get arb next week, now I won't.
      Thanks again for reply

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@chiimchim7987 don’t let us put you off if it works better for your setup still a good unit. Tjm just better 😂

  • @DarrenBoxhall
    @DarrenBoxhall Год назад +1

    I worked for Arb, compressors coming back under warranty all over the place

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +1

      It seems to be the design and the heat. If the relays were in a different location might stop some of the issue?

  • @rohanbicknell
    @rohanbicknell 2 года назад +1

    Make sure you let us know where you end up mounting it as I would love to fit a TJM in the rear quarter for my Y62

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      I ended up mounting it on the back of the drawers had a perfect size spot when I moved around a few things. Would be good to get it in the rear quarter like the arb fits in there

  • @alisadventures9234
    @alisadventures9234 Год назад

    How accurate is the TJM digital tyre inflator I am looking to get one.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +1

      Reads exact to the tpms in the car mate
      Definitely rate the tjm compressor gear

  • @JPB23_406
    @JPB23_406 2 года назад +1

    I would expect on vehicle tires to inflate slightly slower than off of the vehicle with no weight

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Yeah that's probably correct mate and something we didn't think of at the time.

  • @ianwatson3315
    @ianwatson3315 Год назад +3

    Is life that short it matters how long it takes to inflate a tyre🤔

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад

      Not at all but always good to know. Especially if you are on a time frame for a trip and need multiple air up/downs

    • @KIPHONE-qe7kx
      @KIPHONE-qe7kx 11 месяцев назад +1

      Clearly dont live in the Pilbara try pumping up 37's after a day on the beach from 10psi back to 50 takes like an hour with a single tank in 45° heat.... Speed is everything in the right situation

  • @chiimchim7987
    @chiimchim7987 2 года назад +1

    I've been deciding between both these compressors actually, still a hard choice as ARB has had this for many years. Do you know if TJM is aussie built like the ARB? It's a hard choice between the two really

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      ARB definitely has a great reputation due the number of products out there, we think the TJM will be a great compressor. Time will tell!! Not too sure on where it is made, either way both a great brand.

  • @boy2424100
    @boy2424100 2 года назад +2

    Tyres that are not on the vehicle that would play a big part as tyres that are on the vehicle downward pressure

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      Yeah have had a few people mention that so you might be right mate, at least it was consistent for both compressors

    • @boy2424100
      @boy2424100 2 года назад +1

      @@4x4brothers thanks for the reply back 👍 your a legend keep up the awesome videos think positive

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад +1

      @@boy2424100 thanks for watching the videos mate appreciate the support 👍

    • @PKrangerdanger
      @PKrangerdanger 2 года назад +1

      Another classic case of All the gear and no idea

  • @colmherbie8261
    @colmherbie8261 Год назад +1

    the vehicle tyres pump up slower due to extra weight from the 4wd

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +1

      Yep definitely mate thought of that properly afterwards too was just one of those things at the time slipped over our heads 🤦‍♂️

  • @TheShootman980
    @TheShootman980 2 года назад +2

    you guys might want to invest in a mic so there's less muffled noise and echo.

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Have a rode mic on the camera, used a different one to normal. When filming under the carport

  • @danielpetersen753
    @danielpetersen753 2 года назад +2

    Add a air tank and arb wins the race, can't say I've had any problems with arb as of yet

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      Has to be a decent size tank otherwise it actually makes zero difference. Have seen tests done on this.
      Have had a few msgs about relay problems getting to hot in the location they are in

    • @danielpetersen753
      @danielpetersen753 2 года назад

      Yeah they definitely get hot so could see a problem there after awhile

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  2 года назад

      @@danielpetersen753 have had suggested mounting external is a good fix

  • @jimmyd6819
    @jimmyd6819 Год назад +1

    Had the worst luck with arb compressors over the years

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад

      After a lot of use now rate the Tjm very highly would definitely recommend it. Great unit

    • @jimmyd6819
      @jimmyd6819 Год назад +1

      Yeah that's good to hear, i cant say I've had a brand new one fail tho

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад

      Yeah we were very surprised it failed so fast too

  • @arjones2330
    @arjones2330 6 месяцев назад

    Don't buy the arb. If your a gear snob fine. It's not the best out their. Or the fastest or longest lasting. $250 for a compressor plus a really nice 4 tire hose kit another $200 and your better off. Tons of options

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah it definitely seems arb have dropped a bit in the quality of their product

  • @Mick_Jackson
    @Mick_Jackson Год назад

    The tyres on the ground pumped up quicker because they didn't have the weight of the car sitting on top of them.. that's why it took a little longer when you did the tyres that were on the car. You guys aren't too bright aye, too much green

    • @4x4brothers
      @4x4brothers  Год назад +2

      Just one of those things we didn't think of at the time but since makes sense. Either way it dont change anything for the purpose of the video as it's a constant across both