Steve it might be confusing to me but as long as you know what you are doing I am a very happy old lady, who does not know a thing about woodturning. Thank you for explaining every fall into place as you work.
You're very welcome Connis. I learned to turn watching RUclips videos and lots of practice. Good luck with your turning. I'm sure you'll find it to be a lot of fun. Take care, Steve
Thank you very much. It was a fun project. I'm thinking of doing another Greek Key project sometime soon. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Steve, I admire your patience! That looks like a real patience tester. The results are beautiful so it sure looks like it was worth the labor you put into it. Very well explained with enough detail that I think even I might be able to do it. Congratulations on a wonderful job. Take care, .....Gord
Thanks much Gord. About halfway through I was asking myself why I started this in the first place. When I finished I realized why. It was a lot of work but worth it in the end. Thanks for watching and as always I appreciate your comments. Take care, Steve.
+John Gray Thanks for the comment John. I think if I try it again I'll make the Greek key larger maybe for a bowl or larger vase. There were a lot of small parts in this one which was part of the challenge. Give it a try and I'm sure you'll be successful. Take care, Steve
Hi Steve. I just wanted to tell you thanks for taking your time to make these videos. We all learn so much from you and others like yourself. I think you are an awesome craftsman. Good Luck to you.
Thank you very much Robert. I'm glad you find my videos entertaining. Hopefully you pick up a couple of trips as well. Your comment is very much appreciated. Take care, Steve
Very nice demo Steve. It's always great to see the others build their jigs. Holding down the pieces with a top block while cutting to prevent them from flying all over the shop was so simple, yet I never thought of it. Thanks. By the way, I noticed that you did not keep the grain of all the little pieces going in the same direction. I got some terrible results once while not considering the grain - many cracks eventually appeared. Something to be aware of.
That was a fantastic watch!! I haven't done any segmented turnings yet, but this is something I'd love to try....biggest issue for me is finding the time. Thank you for sharing this technique...your video was really easy to understand and the presentation was great! Happy turning!
Thank you very much Michael. Segmented turning is a lot of fun but complicated projects are time consuming. Give it a try by making a simple bowl. I'm sure you'll find it enjoyable. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Excellent work, nicely explained. I have a couple of questions for you. I’m presuming the reason you made each section separately was to have side grain on the outside to turn ?. Have you ever tried gluing the profile in one long block then cross cutting them ? Obviously that means having end grain on the perimeter of the turning. But considering your choices of timber were very tight grained woods. Would it have worked ?. The next question is, did you consider leaving each segment as a block then using the spacer block to take care of the angled corner sections ? I realise the segment would be very narrow and difficult to cut. Is it possible and have you tried it ?. I have turned wood for nearly 40 years now. Only in the past year have I ventured into segmented work. I can’t get enough of it now. All other turnings seem too simple now. Sorry so many questions. I love your work by the way. All the very best, Yours , Ricky
Hi Steve, I have my first attempt at a segmented piece in progress right now! I've watched this video 3,4,maybe 5 times and it's finally sinking into my 75 year old brain! If your ears start ringing it's only me calling you #@%$*%&!! LOL Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and talent! Tom
Tom - Good luck with your segmented piece. You picked a tough one to start with but I'm sure you'll be successful. Don't worry about calling me #@%$*%&....I've been called worse. LOL Please let me know if you have any questions. Take care, Steve
Why not use the actual blade, in lieu of the spacer, to cut the pieces to the number of pieces wide? My sled's kerf eventually gets wider than the saw's kerf.
This is exactly what I've been looking for firstly I've been trying to research this pattern and didn't know its name. So now I'm figuring out how to super downsize something like this. My current obsession is to downsize full size segmented ring bowl turning for pen blanks. I have a few normal segmented ring pen blanks under my belt but this kind of feature ring is my ultimate goal. Right now working on a plan where the straight inserts are the patterns and the wedges are the spacers. Just figuring if I can do it not with 1/4" wood but 1/16" wood. =:-O ETA: not 1/16" but 2/3 less .0267" going to have to rethink this. :-)
Good luck with your project Cliff. When you're successful in downsizing this pattern enough to fit on a pen blank please share a photo. Take care, Steve
@@slindsley1951 I have since figured it out on paper but haven't made up the rings yet. its similar to a greek key but probably has a different name . its pretty much a just a square wave. But not sure how i can share it in youtube comments.
John - That would certainly be possible. There are a lot of glue joints in each piece and I wanted to get a clamp on it before the glue started to set. It would be easy enough to glue up a couple of sub-assemblies and cut them apart when the glue dried. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Good video! The shot of the feature ring at 23:58 does not look like the final product in the vase, did you further thin it down on the top and bottom of the ring?
Perfect timing on this video. I had recently begun planning out a bowl with a Greek Key feature! How many individual keys made up that feature? It looks like you made 15 but used 12. Is that right?
You are correct. I made 15 but only used 12. I picked the 12 best for use in the ring and used the other 3 as test pieces to check my set up. I always make a few extra especially if it's something that I've never done before. Good luck with your project. Take care, Steve
Great although you did it the hardest way. However, I just was wondering if you could have come up with almost the same result if you made a cube out of these pieces then turned that in a cylindrical shape!
Hasan - I'm sure that there are other, and probably better, ways to achieve the same result. Thank you for your suggestion and for commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Nice work. Can't wait to get started. Just wondering, the stock is 1/8 wide, how deep or thick are the pieces? Just guessing they look about 1-1/2". Thank
Randy - The ring shown in the video ended up being just over 7/8 inch tall. The largest diameter of the feature ring on the finished piece is 4 inches. I'd guess the ring was about 4.25 inches before I started turning the finished piece. My word of advice would be to make a larger ring and build it into a bowl. If I had it to do over again that's what I would have done. There's a lot of small pieces in this piece and it was difficult keeping it all straight at times. Good luck with your piece. It's a difficult but satisfying project. Take care, Steve
Thanks, I think it would be best to do a bowl first with a larger ring pieces and then tackle a vase. Thanks so much. you do a great job on you videos.
Steve - The half ring method is used to glue up rings where the angles aren't exact and it won't go together in a single glue up. By using the dowels you end up with two half rings that go together perfectly. The joint between the two can then be trued up and the ring glued up with no gaps. If angles are dead on the ring will go together in one glue up with no need to use the dowels and make half rings. Hope that helps. Take care, Steve
Excellent work. Just retired from being an art teacher for 30 years, I enjoy the geometric designs in your work... Thanks for sharing..
Thanks Allen. The Greek Key was a challenge. I want to another one sometime soon to improve on the process.
Take care, Steve
Steve it might be confusing to me but as long as you know what you are doing I am a very happy old lady, who does not know a thing about woodturning. Thank you for explaining every fall into place as you work.
Kobie - Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. It's much appreciated. Take care, Steve
Great design...I love the Greek Key and I have it in my dining room floor.
Thanks again. It was a difficult but rewarding project. Take care, Steve
Thanks for the videos. As a new turner, videos like yours help a lot especially when learning to make feature rings. Thanks
You're very welcome Connis. I learned to turn watching RUclips videos and lots of practice. Good luck with your turning. I'm sure you'll find it to be a lot of fun. Take care, Steve
That Greek Vase is really beautiful and as demo's go that's a 10/10 for me. I don't think you could have made it any clearer. Thank you Steve.
Thank you very much. It was a fun project. I'm thinking of doing another Greek Key project sometime soon. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Steve, I admire your patience! That looks like a real patience tester. The results are beautiful so it sure looks like it was worth the labor you put into it. Very well explained with enough detail that I think even I might be able to do it. Congratulations on a wonderful job.
Take care,
.....Gord
Thanks much Gord. About halfway through I was asking myself why I started this in the first place. When I finished I realized why. It was a lot of work but worth it in the end. Thanks for watching and as always I appreciate your comments. Take care, Steve.
AWESOME!!!!
Thank you Donald! Take care, Steve
Very good explanation Steve. I will be trying one of these when I get a little better at turning. Beautiful work, thumbs up.
+OG Timbercraft Glad you liked the video. I appreciate the comments and the support. Take care, Steve
Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome Ron. It was a fun project. Take care, Steve
Excellent video Steve. It has inspired me to have a go at your Greek Key pattern just as soon as I can clear my other tasks.
+John Gray Thanks for the comment John. I think if I try it again I'll make the Greek key larger maybe for a bowl or larger vase. There were a lot of small parts in this one which was part of the challenge. Give it a try and I'm sure you'll be successful. Take care, Steve
Hi Steve. I just wanted to tell you thanks for taking your time to make these videos. We all learn so much from you and others like yourself. I think you are an awesome craftsman. Good Luck to you.
Thank you very much Robert. I'm glad you find my videos entertaining. Hopefully you pick up a couple of trips as well. Your comment is very much appreciated. Take care, Steve
Very nice demo Steve. It's always great to see the others build their jigs. Holding down the pieces with a top block while cutting to prevent them from flying all over the shop was so simple, yet I never thought of it. Thanks. By the way, I noticed that you did not keep the grain of all the little pieces going in the same direction. I got some terrible results once while not considering the grain - many cracks eventually appeared. Something to be aware of.
Thanks for doing this video. I will have to make a feature ring like this. It looks fantastic.
Thanks Julian. It was a lot of work but worth it in the end. Give it a try and I'm sure you'll be successful. Take care, Steve
Wow, thanks for sharing your knowledge! That is very impressive work!
Thanks Jerry. It was a challenging but fun project. Take care, Steve
Excellent, looking good so far...
Cheers...
That was a fantastic watch!! I haven't done any segmented turnings yet, but this is something I'd love to try....biggest issue for me is finding the time. Thank you for sharing this technique...your video was really easy to understand and the presentation was great! Happy turning!
Thank you very much Michael. Segmented turning is a lot of fun but complicated projects are time consuming. Give it a try by making a simple bowl. I'm sure you'll find it enjoyable. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Hi Steve, thank you for sharing much appreciated
You're very welcome Andy. Take care, Steve
Good looking vase. Good job on the explanation as well
+Lynn Schmidt Thank you very much Lynn. I appreciate you watching and for the comment. Take care, Steve
Love your work
+Kelvin Robinson Thank you very much Kelvin. Take care, Steve
Great video Steve and very easy to understand. May just give that a try.
Thank Frank! Give it a try! Take care, Steve
Hey my friend, great project. Thanx for sharing.
Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching and commenting on my project/video. Take care, Steve
Hello, Steve!I haven't seen your new works for a long time...Can you tell me which breeds you used for the Greek key?Sincerely, Alexander.
Very nice! I need a bit more experience in order to attempt this. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much Don. I appreciate you watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Very intricate and beautiful Steve. All the best, Jim.
+Jimson's Stuff Thank you very much Jim. I appreciate you watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Excellent work, nicely explained. I have a couple of questions for you. I’m presuming the reason you made each section separately was to have side grain on the outside to turn ?. Have you ever tried gluing the profile in one long block then cross cutting them ? Obviously that means having end grain on the perimeter of the turning. But considering your choices of timber were very tight grained woods. Would it have worked ?. The next question is, did you consider leaving each segment as a block then using the spacer block to take care of the angled corner sections ? I realise the segment would be very narrow and difficult to cut. Is it possible and have you tried it ?. I have turned wood for nearly 40 years now. Only in the past year have I ventured into segmented work. I can’t get enough of it now. All other turnings seem too simple now. Sorry so many questions. I love your work by the way. All the very best, Yours , Ricky
Exactly what I was wondering, seems a long involved way of doing it.
Great video Steve. good info!
+Rich McNatt Rich - Glad you enjoyed my video! Take care, Steve
Marvelous
+John Walsh Thanks John! Take care, Steve
Hi Steve,
I have my first attempt at a segmented piece in progress right now!
I've watched this video 3,4,maybe 5 times and it's finally sinking into my 75 year old brain!
If your ears start ringing it's only me calling you #@%$*%&!! LOL
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and talent!
Tom
Tom - Good luck with your segmented piece. You picked a tough one to start with but I'm sure you'll be successful. Don't worry about calling me #@%$*%&....I've been called worse. LOL Please let me know if you have any questions. Take care, Steve
Really enjoyed
+Xyienced Thank you very much! Take care, Steve
Why not use the actual blade, in lieu of the spacer, to cut the pieces to the number of pieces wide? My sled's kerf eventually gets wider than the saw's kerf.
This is exactly what I've been looking for firstly I've been trying to research this pattern and didn't know its name. So now I'm figuring out how to super downsize something like this. My current obsession is to downsize full size segmented ring bowl turning for pen blanks. I have a few normal segmented ring pen blanks under my belt but this kind of feature ring is my ultimate goal.
Right now working on a plan where the straight inserts are the patterns and the wedges are the spacers. Just figuring if I can do it not with 1/4" wood but 1/16" wood. =:-O
ETA: not 1/16" but 2/3 less .0267" going to have to rethink this. :-)
Good luck with your project Cliff. When you're successful in downsizing this pattern enough to fit on a pen blank please share a photo. Take care, Steve
@@slindsley1951 I have since figured it out on paper but haven't made up the rings yet. its similar to a greek key but probably has a different name . its pretty much a just a square wave. But not sure how i can share it in youtube comments.
Cliff - Feel free to send me an e-mail to slindsley@gmail.com.
@@slindsley1951 will do I have a box of thin wood shorts that will be here thursday. I have no idea whats in it. I hope i get some good stuff. :-)
@@slindsley1951 email sent but only a pattern
Steve: One question, Why did you build each segment by itself and not just make a sandwich and cut the pieces from the sandwich?
John - That would certainly be possible. There are a lot of glue joints in each piece and I wanted to get a clamp on it before the glue started to set. It would be easy enough to glue up a couple of sub-assemblies and cut them apart when the glue dried. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Good video! The shot of the feature ring at 23:58 does not look like the final product in the vase, did you further thin it down on the top and bottom of the ring?
Perfect timing on this video. I had recently begun planning out a bowl with a Greek Key feature! How many individual keys made up that feature? It looks like you made 15 but used 12. Is that right?
You are correct. I made 15 but only used 12. I picked the 12 best for use in the ring and used the other 3 as test pieces to check my set up. I always make a few extra especially if it's something that I've never done before. Good luck with your project. Take care, Steve
good job
Thank you very much Randy.
Great although you did it the hardest way. However, I just was wondering if you could have come up with almost the same result if you made a cube out of these pieces then turned that in a cylindrical shape!
Hasan - I'm sure that there are other, and probably better, ways to achieve the same result. Thank you for your suggestion and for commenting on my video. Take care, Steve
Never mind. Question answered on final video.
+James Goodin No problem James. Glad your question was answered. Take care, Steve
Nice work. Can't wait to get started. Just wondering, the stock is 1/8 wide, how deep or thick are the pieces? Just guessing they look about 1-1/2". Thank
Scott - I apologize for my delay in answering. The pieces were 1 1/4 inches wide. Take care, Steve
How tall are the segments and diamature of the feature ring for the Greek Key vase. I'm going to try it. Any other tips would be a great help. Thanks
Randy - The ring shown in the video ended up being just over 7/8 inch tall. The largest diameter of the feature ring on the finished piece is 4 inches. I'd guess the ring was about 4.25 inches before I started turning the finished piece. My word of advice would be to make a larger ring and build it into a bowl. If I had it to do over again that's what I would have done. There's a lot of small pieces in this piece and it was difficult keeping it all straight at times. Good luck with your piece. It's a difficult but satisfying project. Take care, Steve
Thanks, I think it would be best to do a bowl first with a larger ring pieces and then tackle a vase.
Thanks so much. you do a great job on you videos.
Thank you very much Randy. Good luck with your project. Take care, Steve
Would someone explain to me the reason for gluing up the rings with two dowels at 180 degrees?
Steve - The half ring method is used to glue up rings where the angles aren't exact and it won't go together in a single glue up. By using the dowels you end up with two half rings that go together perfectly. The joint between the two can then be trued up and the ring glued up with no gaps. If angles are dead on the ring will go together in one glue up with no need to use the dowels and make half rings. Hope that helps. Take care, Steve
I like to wood design
I think be cool if make same vase but see inlay greek monster and a hero do battle.
Rodney - That would be cool but beyond my capabilities. Take care, Steve
Steve I copied yours It is my favorite segmented piece of many I have made. Chuck Bury
Charles - Glad to hear my piece was an inspiration to you. It was a fun but challenging project. Take care, Steve
If you have no patience,don't even try to make this piece.I have friends that say I don't have the patience to even try this.
Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. Making the feature ring was definately a challenge. Take care, Steve