i love your videos! im just getting started in the sound world as teenager running sound for my church (RM16AI+CS18AI). I'm trying to convice my paster to get a 32SX. your videos are so helpful to see how you mix and do soundcheck and evaluate PA requirments. I have learnt so much from you guys! watching all the way from new zealand!
That's great...glad we can help! The RM/CS series is a great platform and miss many aspects of it. The Series 3 is operationally more robust, but the platform of a CS18 controller to a rack mixer is still a superior design.
Excellent gig. Great band and over the top sound! I agree, PreSonus sound ecosystem is fantastic. I use Capture all the time. Not only are the both of you doing a great show, but creating excellent video and its content. The Sound Couple ROCKS!
Very cool. I’ve played in bands for years and have always been intrigued by sound systems although I know nothing about them. I always wanted to be a roadie for someone running sound for bands like you do. Wish I lived close by I’d offer to give you a hand just to learn.
We wouldn't be doing it if we didn't enjoy it...but sometimes it can get overwhelming with surprises, etc. Will admit, the longer we do it, the harder it gets.
We don't take song requests in my cover band. We prepare a set list that we know works and gets people dancing and singing every time. IEMs all the way, we're in the process of transitioning to IEM rehearsals, just played the second gig in a row on pure IEMs, not even a bass amp. Sound for the audience was fantastic compared to the classic monitor amp setup. So much cleaner. Great video as always !
The song request is definitely a conversation...we have experienced where bands were not asked back or fired for not playing what the client or VIP's wanted to hear...unfortunate reality and risk. Appreciate your feedback!
Loved seeing a new video! I've watched them all and some more than once. I enjoy watching someone else other than myself working lol. Especially love Stacy 's hard work and knowledge! Bart you are very lucky to have her. And thanks Bart for sharing your knowledge and experience! Both of your professionalism is top notch!
Shure you should of used the under cover covers but more whats more noticible for me is that the crowd is allowed that close to the stage/artist. All things considered a great gig once again! On to the next gig! Thanks from Sweden!
These are just small town community events and people having fun...There isn't the resources or need to formalize it more. There is the next step up that you will see more security, etc., but typically not for the types of gigs we do.
Another great video guys. Thanks. Although I work with many brands, my personal PA mixers are the Presonus ecosystem. I’ve been working with them since the original studio live boards and love it. Since going digital, the biggest advantage I’ve learned to lean on is the preset capability. I realize how much I appreciate that technology when I have to walk into a sound booth with an old Mackie VLZ, and a rack full of EQ’s and a couple midiverbs all left with the last bands settings. I have a handful of bands I work with that have members showing up a half an hour before go time. I’m pretty confident with no sound check settling the FOH mix in within the first song. The frustrating part is those first few songs being disrupting having to adjust monitor settings for them. But all in all, I guess those are pretty good first world problems to have. Keep up the good work guys.
Great lessons learned... when you get back home, do not use Armor All on the cabs (or in your car). Armor All leaves everything slippery and the coating will attract more dust/grime. Diluted simple Green works great; for Tolex/vinyl coverings on amps, Meguiar's convertible top cleaner ($10 at Walmart) works great with a brush... Power nightmares as well - love that you checked to see what else is plugged in as you never know what else is on the circuit... thanks for sharing always!
lol… we’ve run into the issue where we could’ve used the external power source and didn’t have it. Needless to say it is now part of the standard pack! 😂
Great to see you on deck again - I've been waiting for your next post. Surprised you didn't cover the subs under the stage like @ the firefighter's fundraiser gigs. A damp shammy & some microfibre cloths would come in handy for a quick clean pre bump-out. Would a low flat dolly to maneuver large road cases & subs under stages / flatbeds help avoid damaging / scratching on rough ground surfaces? Thanks again for a great show.
Good idea on the flat dolly- sometimes the stage height isn’t always conducive to this. Fortunately since there’s two of us, maneuvering them under doesn’t seem to scratch them too much. Agreed! Some sort of cleaning cloth is a must have tool at the end of the night!
Always worth checking out voltage anomalies especially with 3 phase feeds. Strange things happen if the phases arent evenly loaded. Good video. Nice driving Stacy 😎
Our band arrives 2.5 hrs early, but we run our own sound and in-ears typically. If we are not doing sound and just in-ears we arrive 1.5hrs early, and the IEM guy (me) arrives about 2 hours ahead to start interface conversations with FoH. Preference would be to have this conversation well in advance but it seems low communication standards with a lot of House Sound guys. Luckily we have 5 saved scenes for our default setups. So we only have to line level check when running our own FoH.
Nice video. What was your In-Ear setup for the band? I don't see any monitors?! Do you use Shure for the in ear, PSM300? Do you also provide headphones for in ears or do they connect their own headphones?
Yes, we supply the PSM 300 system so the band was all IEM. The musicians should provide their own ear buds, but we have extras 😉. We haven't mentioned it lately, but just know that this is a specific arrangement that we have with the band to provide this and we are able to accommodate. The preferred method is for a band to carry their own IEM system.
Requests: We are very interactive with the audience and invite requests. Our cover band prefers the phone method of making requests because (unlike a dj) we cannot have a conversation with them while performing. Request conversations can be disruptive to the performance flow of the gig. We didn't come to the gig without a solid planned setlist. Appropriateness of requests depends on the type of gig. We acknowledge the phone waver and smile. They should go away at that point... I personally hate "Conditional Requests" where they hold the $20 over the tip jar and won't drop it until we play their song. We don't play conditional requests. Tips are not payment for requests. Tips are because you had a great time and want to buy the band a tank of gas/drink. Great show - I hate when my cables and guitar amp gets dusty...
With that voltage drop caused by the AirCon, I would bet the cable running to that power point is undersized for the total load and length of run from the transformer. Or possibly there's some loose/corroded connections somewhere in the path (which is annoyingly common in outdoor power distribution that is only occasionally used and even more occasionally maintained)
We always try to keep good records and for some reason...we just lost the info on the most recent ones we have acquired. We have gone through a lot of cables to find ones that work with our gear. We have some ProCo's and some from Amazon as well (they are 30' which makes a big difference over the more standard 25'). I think the one thing we can all share is the frustrating journey it's been for a lot of us. We now have some that work well with all of stage boxes and we are sticking to them!
Hi Bart and Stacy. Since the band is on in-ears and as a consequence they don’t hear anything other than what’s in the sound system, do they have anything to give a sense of what the crowd is doing/singing? If there are crowd mics, do you supply the microphones or does the band?
We avoid getting into pricing on our channel....our prices vary per gig and typically we don't set them. In most of our cases, we are paid by the band and they have a set production budget that we agree to.
Hey there great video! Recently 2 weeks back on November 2nd I bought a new Presonus 32SC console and I loved it and brought it out to a show first time with the new console and was awesome. Everything is great and awesome and the Tube compressor on the drums I did comes out punchier and amazing too. After doing all testing and programming the user layer is my favorite tool on there too but I hooked up my laptop to it with usb for capture 3 and record drums on it but it seems to record but there’s no audio coming out of the recording except I see signal, so is there anything I mislooked at something and any info on it would help me a lot! ❤
Not sure of your specific set up, but there a lot of good resources on FB groups and PreSonus site, RUclips, etc. Have you checked this article? support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/7059582068493-Capture-USB-Recording-Playback-Setup-Series-III
We don't set the prices for most of the gigs we do as we are hired by the bands. We are told what the production budget is and we choose whether or not to take the gig. The bands generally know what we will need so they factor that into what they charge the customers. Sorry, but we really can't provide actual numbers.
Hi guys, nice to see you again. My opinion is that I don't really like doing sound checks two or three hours before the show, it's all a waste of time and useless. If the situations are known, and unless there are particular conditions and problems, I prefer to do the sound check and start the show right after. The Band will be much more careful and precise and the sounds will be more in everyone's memory without useless corrections on the fly that only serve to take away everyone's peace of mind.
As problems with a.c. power plagued the carefully planned set-up for this gig, as usual, The Sound Couple prevailed, taking the disruption with calm grace. This was another great video that gave us insight into how a professional production company handles the unusual nature of this venue. Selfishly, because of my background as a fire protection engineer, I particularly enjoyed watching the fire department truck company dismantle the test vehicle using the “Jaws of Life.” The excellently recorded background music highlighted one of the many reasons why the PreSonus universe offers production companies such a wide range of useful options. As always, a sincere “Thank You!” to Bart and Stacy for allowing us to ride along for this gig.
That's awesome Dean! Had no idea you had that background. So glad we included this point of interest in the video. We were able to tie it all together!
When we placed the subwoofer on wooden stage, its will grounding the punch impact sound to the stage, is that right? It will transfer the noise to the mic on stand?
Hi guys. I don’t know why you fight with those 18” subs. First of all, they are rated down to 45hz and weigh 105 lbs. while the Prosonus AIR15S 15” weighs only 76 pounds and goes down to 35 hertz!! Cheaper too!! I get tired just watching you lug those things!! 😢
We need to consider priorities in the gear/tools we are investing in. For the amount that we use these subs, we think a lot about the fact that they are paid for and get the job done. Ideally, we would always be working with the gear that makes our lives easier, but the fact remains that's a relative and always moving target that can quickly impact your $$ bottom line.
Watching you guys amazing work all time from Nagaland, India.
Appreciate that...thanks!
i love your videos! im just getting started in the sound world as teenager running sound for my church (RM16AI+CS18AI). I'm trying to convice my paster to get a 32SX. your videos are so helpful to see how you mix and do soundcheck and evaluate PA requirments. I have learnt so much from you guys! watching all the way from new zealand!
That's great...glad we can help! The RM/CS series is a great platform and miss many aspects of it. The Series 3 is operationally more robust, but the platform of a CS18 controller to a rack mixer is still a superior design.
I’m a sound tech at my church too, greetings from Canada!
@@Jimsalos Awesome...hello!
I'm happy every time I see you again
That's awesome....glad we are here!
Excellent gig. Great band and over the top sound! I agree, PreSonus sound ecosystem is fantastic. I use Capture all the time. Not only are the both of you doing a great show, but creating excellent video and its content. The Sound Couple ROCKS!
Thank you! We try!
Hey guys, I had that same exact problem at that gig this summer. I ended up running that line to a different pole. Love the videos!!
Funny how we’re not the only ones this happens to!
Great mix and great band!
It's an absolute joy to work with this band...we are not big country music fans, but we really like their playlist!
Watching from Saudi Arabia..
That's awesome!
Very cool. I’ve played in bands for years and have always been intrigued by sound systems although I know nothing about them. I always wanted to be a roadie for someone running sound for bands like you do. Wish I lived close by I’d offer to give you a hand just to learn.
We wouldn't be doing it if we didn't enjoy it...but sometimes it can get overwhelming with surprises, etc. Will admit, the longer we do it, the harder it gets.
We don't take song requests in my cover band. We prepare a set list that we know works and gets people dancing and singing every time. IEMs all the way, we're in the process of transitioning to IEM rehearsals, just played the second gig in a row on pure IEMs, not even a bass amp. Sound for the audience was fantastic compared to the classic monitor amp setup. So much cleaner. Great video as always !
The song request is definitely a conversation...we have experienced where bands were not asked back or fired for not playing what the client or VIP's wanted to hear...unfortunate reality and risk. Appreciate your feedback!
We will play any request (as long as it’s on the setlist).
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@@SeattleSam-ul5hr Best answer !🤣
Loved seeing a new video! I've watched them all and some more than once. I enjoy watching someone else other than myself working lol. Especially love Stacy 's hard work and knowledge! Bart you are very lucky to have her. And thanks Bart for sharing your knowledge and experience! Both of your professionalism is top notch!
Thank you Troy! We are happy to share our experiences and especially knowing that it's helping others is rewarding...thanks again! We are good team!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Shure you should of used the under cover covers but more whats more noticible for me is that the crowd is allowed that close to the stage/artist. All things considered a great gig once again! On to the next gig! Thanks from Sweden!
These are just small town community events and people having fun...There isn't the resources or need to formalize it more. There is the next step up that you will see more security, etc., but typically not for the types of gigs we do.
Another great video guys. Thanks. Although I work with many brands, my personal PA mixers are the Presonus ecosystem. I’ve been working with them since the original studio live boards and love it. Since going digital, the biggest advantage I’ve learned to lean on is the preset capability. I realize how much I appreciate that technology when I have to walk into a sound booth with an old Mackie VLZ, and a rack full of EQ’s and a couple midiverbs all left with the last bands settings. I have a handful of bands I work with that have members showing up a half an hour before go time. I’m pretty confident with no sound check settling the FOH mix in within the first song. The frustrating part is those first few songs being disrupting having to adjust monitor settings for them. But all in all, I guess those are pretty good first world problems to have. Keep up the good work guys.
Thanks! We are sourced from the same playbook...first real mixer I had was the VLZ 24 channel.
Thank you for all the great info. Love your chanel!
We're glad you like it!
Great episode!
Thank you!
Great lessons learned... when you get back home, do not use Armor All on the cabs (or in your car). Armor All leaves everything slippery and the coating will attract more dust/grime. Diluted simple Green works great; for Tolex/vinyl coverings on amps, Meguiar's convertible top cleaner ($10 at Walmart) works great with a brush...
Power nightmares as well - love that you checked to see what else is plugged in as you never know what else is on the circuit... thanks for sharing always!
Thank you for sharing!
Amazing job guys!!!
Appreciate it...thanks!
nice mix of the live recording awesome
Appreciate it!
Thank You! Check the power, check the power. Hopefully you all carry the Jackery all the time.
lol… we’ve run into the issue where we could’ve used the external power source and didn’t have it. Needless to say it is now part of the standard pack! 😂
Great to see you on deck again - I've been waiting for your next post. Surprised you didn't cover the subs under the stage like @ the firefighter's fundraiser gigs. A damp shammy & some microfibre cloths would come in handy for a quick clean pre bump-out. Would a low flat dolly to maneuver large road cases & subs under stages / flatbeds help avoid damaging / scratching on rough ground surfaces? Thanks again for a great show.
Good idea on the flat dolly- sometimes the stage height isn’t always conducive to this. Fortunately since there’s two of us, maneuvering them under doesn’t seem to scratch them too much.
Agreed! Some sort of cleaning cloth is a must have tool at the end of the night!
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Always worth checking out voltage anomalies especially with 3 phase feeds. Strange things happen if the phases arent evenly loaded. Good video. Nice driving Stacy 😎
Right? Better to find out before the gig starts!
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Our band arrives 2.5 hrs early, but we run our own sound and in-ears typically. If we are not doing sound and just in-ears we arrive 1.5hrs early, and the IEM guy (me) arrives about 2 hours ahead to start interface conversations with FoH. Preference would be to have this conversation well in advance but it seems low communication standards with a lot of House Sound guys.
Luckily we have 5 saved scenes for our default setups. So we only have to line level check when running our own FoH.
Sounds like a good timeline for everyone involved!
Hey! Great video, what model is that voltage tester?
Shop around! www.amazon.com/INDUSTRIES-61-164-SureTest-Circuit-Analyzer/dp/B000E9ZCOG/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.N9Ymnjem1-r1HbzjQnxv-_Y8Y6y5NlfBrsZpKxBWRPaFeGvGRChJA_ZpaUqYk47r7YMXA_IDXRyD_sMWDUk3YTAOP9BzxcmsnhF0C8f5tQaf6mEpmKOL5dliWC6_pzFPOR_1CK3SPkXUSU1gXMesaX_eU0Ns1wxcCdpo_MIMH1IYIqGBX7kf68iDuNrcAEn7JcIylQU8te_uv1gxqMeC-P6LUNUsgTbkuTkLfa9ovWU.H_qISXj6klb3Yxa70FKW6YHju7iFMonbsbpYWa9KXRg&dib_tag=se&hvadid=651141857509&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9019541&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8599645106171625762&hvtargid=kwd-468488822&hydadcr=982_1015116309&keywords=suretest+circuit+analyzer&qid=1734312286&sr=8-3
Nice video. What was your In-Ear setup for the band? I don't see any monitors?! Do you use Shure for the in ear, PSM300? Do you also provide headphones for in ears or do they connect their own headphones?
Yes, we supply the PSM 300 system so the band was all IEM. The musicians should provide their own ear buds, but we have extras 😉. We haven't mentioned it lately, but just know that this is a specific arrangement that we have with the band to provide this and we are able to accommodate. The preferred method is for a band to carry their own IEM system.
Requests: We are very interactive with the audience and invite requests. Our cover band prefers the phone method of making requests because (unlike a dj) we cannot have a conversation with them while performing. Request conversations can be disruptive to the performance flow of the gig. We didn't come to the gig without a solid planned setlist. Appropriateness of requests depends on the type of gig. We acknowledge the phone waver and smile. They should go away at that point...
I personally hate "Conditional Requests" where they hold the $20 over the tip jar and won't drop it until we play their song. We don't play conditional requests. Tips are not payment for requests. Tips are because you had a great time and want to buy the band a tank of gas/drink.
Great show - I hate when my cables and guitar amp gets dusty...
Thank you for sharing your perspective...enlightening to us for sure!
With that voltage drop caused by the AirCon, I would bet the cable running to that power point is undersized for the total load and length of run from the transformer.
Or possibly there's some loose/corroded connections somewhere in the path (which is annoyingly common in outdoor power distribution that is only occasionally used and even more occasionally maintained)
I think you are on to something....we should have not been impacted to this degree. Something was up with the wiring.
Which Cat cable do you guys use? I always seem to have to replace that because they fail, and some never work at all......keep up the great content!
We always try to keep good records and for some reason...we just lost the info on the most recent ones we have acquired. We have gone through a lot of cables to find ones that work with our gear. We have some ProCo's and some from Amazon as well (they are 30' which makes a big difference over the more standard 25'). I think the one thing we can all share is the frustrating journey it's been for a lot of us. We now have some that work well with all of stage boxes and we are sticking to them!
@@thesoundcoupleI use LYXPro locking shielded CAT6 with my PreSonus ecosystem. After fails with other brands, these work!
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may i know, you can put all three sub woofer close together?
We believe that putting them closer allows them to couple better - there providing more output.
Hi Bart and Stacy. Since the band is on in-ears and as a consequence they don’t hear anything other than what’s in the sound system, do they have anything to give a sense of what the crowd is doing/singing? If there are crowd mics, do you supply the microphones or does the band?
We don't supply any crowd mics for the bands we run on ears....This is a topic that we see discussed a lot but we have never had a band ask for it.
If you don't mind me asking what are your rates for a full set of equipment.
We don't really get into pricing on our channel...most of the gigs come to us with a production amount directly from the bands we work with.
have you ever discussed pricing in a video?
We avoid getting into pricing on our channel....our prices vary per gig and typically we don't set them. In most of our cases, we are paid by the band and they have a set production budget that we agree to.
Hey there great video! Recently 2 weeks back on November 2nd I bought a new Presonus 32SC console and I loved it and brought it out to a show first time with the new console and was awesome. Everything is great and awesome and the Tube compressor on the drums I did comes out punchier and amazing too. After doing all testing and programming the user layer is my favorite tool on there too but I hooked up my laptop to it with usb for capture 3 and record drums on it but it seems to record but there’s no audio coming out of the recording except I see signal, so is there anything I mislooked at something and any info on it would help me a lot! ❤
Not sure of your specific set up, but there a lot of good resources on FB groups and PreSonus site, RUclips, etc. Have you checked this article? support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/7059582068493-Capture-USB-Recording-Playback-Setup-Series-III
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any idea sir of your cost? your services per gig/setup? ..
We don't set the prices for most of the gigs we do as we are hired by the bands. We are told what the production budget is and we choose whether or not to take the gig. The bands generally know what we will need so they factor that into what they charge the customers. Sorry, but we really can't provide actual numbers.
Hi guys, nice to see you again. My opinion is that I don't really like doing sound checks two or three hours before the show, it's all a waste of time and useless. If the situations are known, and unless there are particular conditions and problems, I prefer to do the sound check and start the show right after. The Band will be much more careful and precise and the sounds will be more in everyone's memory without useless corrections on the fly that only serve to take away everyone's peace of mind.
Thank you for sharing...valid points for sure.
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Thank you!
As problems with a.c. power plagued the carefully planned set-up for this gig, as usual, The Sound Couple prevailed, taking the disruption with calm grace. This was another great video that gave us insight into how a professional production company handles the unusual nature of this venue.
Selfishly, because of my background as a fire protection engineer, I particularly enjoyed watching the fire department truck company dismantle the test vehicle using the “Jaws of Life.” The excellently recorded background music highlighted one of the many reasons why the PreSonus universe offers production companies such a wide range of useful options.
As always, a sincere “Thank You!” to Bart and Stacy for allowing us to ride along for this gig.
That's awesome Dean! Had no idea you had that background. So glad we included this point of interest in the video. We were able to tie it all together!
I usually hate when DJing and people put their phones in my face. It's worse than Covid Breath lol😂
Can totally relate!
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When we placed the subwoofer on wooden stage, its will grounding the punch impact sound to the stage, is that right? It will transfer the noise to the mic on stand?
Technically yes. In our case, we never get any comments from the bands we work with that it causes any issues for them on stage.
I enjoy your videos a lot.
Thank you!
Hi guys. I don’t know why you fight with those 18” subs. First of all, they are rated down to 45hz and weigh 105 lbs. while the Prosonus AIR15S 15” weighs only 76 pounds and goes down to 35 hertz!! Cheaper too!! I get tired just watching you lug those things!! 😢
We need to consider priorities in the gear/tools we are investing in. For the amount that we use these subs, we think a lot about the fact that they are paid for and get the job done. Ideally, we would always be working with the gear that makes our lives easier, but the fact remains that's a relative and always moving target that can quickly impact your $$ bottom line.
@@thesoundcouple I totally get it! We do this for the love of doing sound and for the love of music... not for the love of emptying our wallets!
@@williamthesoundguybalestri1745 Better said!
At 4:27pm timeline youre shaking the camera too much. Its causing a headache. Try to reduce that in future videos. Otherwise, its a beautiful video.
Appreciate the feedback....yes, sometimes we forget to keep a steady hand when are in the midst of things but your point is well taken 😊