Maximize Your NPS Returns: Tax Benefits, Flexibility & Retirement Tips | ft. Sriram Iyer of Hdfc

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @debrajbehera4643
    @debrajbehera4643 2 месяца назад +6

    The main negative aspect of NPS is the rate of return from the annuity which is around 4% to 5 %. Very very low return from annuity. I don't understand why the rate of return from the annuity scheme is so less.

    • @sudip_curiousmind
      @sudip_curiousmind 2 месяца назад

      Not accurate, that is thevlowest return. As of today a person retiring at 60 and opting for annuity can get 6-7% or even higher on annuity depending on a number.ber of criteria a d options chosen (deferment,afe etc.)

    • @rrkatheer
      @rrkatheer 2 месяца назад

      This is after ideal period of 15-25 yrs guaranteed. Because interest rates ideally goes down in any growing economy.

    • @mjspeaking
      @mjspeaking 2 месяца назад

      ​@@sudip_curiousmind agree that returns are around 6 and 7 % when you opt for no return of the money at death. And the returns are not inflation adjusted. Pension is the product which will be chosen by someone who wants steady income , inflation adjusted with no tracking of investments.

  • @madankulkarni1715
    @madankulkarni1715 12 дней назад +2

    Shriram Iyyerji: Just answer this one question for benefit of investors
    If on the day of retirement & nps withdrawal at 60 years the market crash by 15 to 20 % say as 6 th or 7 th incidence then what options does investor have
    A) No option but to withdraw at negative returns
    B) Can wiat markets to recover

  • @amankapri
    @amankapri 2 месяца назад +4

    I was hoping there would be in-depth discussion on the annuity part more and how it's make sense for someone to invest for 30-35 years and not bother about 40% of the corpus (which will not even beat inflation).

    • @cyberbully7718
      @cyberbully7718 2 месяца назад +1

      The annuity part is one of the worst components of nps, I wish it would be scrapped in the future and the entire amount would be handed over to the subscribers.

    • @sudheerk67
      @sudheerk67 2 месяца назад

      @@amankapri They won't speak about the real evil if NPS, that is annuity. This is just a new scam run by Govt after the decadal loot of LIC is going to end soon.

  • @ddesai1080
    @ddesai1080 2 месяца назад +2

    Easiest targets are existing corporates which are on LIC Superannuation...Big bulk numbers with big bulk corpus

  • @sivarank
    @sivarank 2 месяца назад +4

    it is 33% (30+3% surcharge) tax saving for > 50 Lakh salary guys.
    NPS investment makes 49.25 % profit (100% captial money) if we compare it with Mutal fund (67% captial post 33% tax deduction).
    NPS performance is inline with Largecap MFs.
    If you are 40 year old with >50Lakh bracket. I feel, NPS make sense for me for my retirement plan.

  • @sanjaysoni5246
    @sanjaysoni5246 2 месяца назад +6

    The current NPS rules and taxation are so good that one should liquidate most other assets and invest in NPS. Most likely the FM will see this and put a cap on voluntary Unlimited contribution sooner or later. Go all in before that

  • @kishorekundala1902
    @kishorekundala1902 2 месяца назад +4

    Why doesn't NPS not allow SWP as an additional option to take pension other than the annuity option, this is a very important question that should have been asked

    • @sumitpal1975
      @sumitpal1975 2 месяца назад

      SLW ( Systematic Lumpsum Withdrawl ) is now active in NPS

    • @kishorekundala1902
      @kishorekundala1902 2 месяца назад

      @@sumitpal1975 This is available only on the 60% lumpsum withdrawable amount. I was talking about giving an option of SWP along with the annuity option on the 40% amount. They can restrict the SWP to between 3-4% of the corpus annually.

  • @patilpravinpharma
    @patilpravinpharma 2 месяца назад +4

    EPS system which is deducting 4% of basic salary for pension.
    The NPS has bigger lock in for annuity i.e. 40% of final corpus.
    Removing compulsion for annuity will make this product super attractive.
    Lockin is ok till retirement but If someone wants lumpsum of his corpus to be removed at retiment let him take it. If someone wants pension he will invest in annuity.
    One more thing which was not discussed, and I am aware of it for sure is, there are different options by which annuity principal will be returned to nominee after death of NPS annuity holder.

    • @nolan_villeneuve
      @nolan_villeneuve 25 дней назад

      Removing compulsion for annuity will make this product super attractive. -- > this. everything else is fine. this is a deal breaker for many. I guess if not removing completely they should lower the annuity percentage to 15 or 20%

  • @sanjaysoni5246
    @sanjaysoni5246 2 месяца назад +2

    More clarity on tax exemption needed about the SWP lump sum defereal

  • @autumntrader4736
    @autumntrader4736 2 месяца назад +1

    Two improvement opportunities in Tier 2 construct: 1. Taxation on redemption is at individual's tax bracket unlike MF/ Direct Equity / ULIPS. Moving corpus to Tier 1 means that it can be only used for retirement corpus and no other goal. 2. Index / passive option not available in Equity scheme

    • @TheSuperking1987
      @TheSuperking1987 Месяц назад

      Do goal based investing , retirement money in nps tier2 and tier 1 and child education/ marriages in mutual funds

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    @BaileyJames-zv2ddd 2 месяца назад +29

    I'm 39 years old, recently laid off, and in a new phase of my life. What are my best options for steady income given that I have 425K saved for retirement, 10K in an HSA, and a property that might bring in an additional 200K?

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  • @suman8368
    @suman8368 2 месяца назад +8

    The annuity plan is not attractive, as it takes 40% of the total corpus. A systematic withdrawal plan (SWP) in mutual funds seems more beneficial. Why not offer individuals the option to choose between these alternatives, or make the annuity plan more appealing?

    • @cyberbully7718
      @cyberbully7718 2 месяца назад +1

      If they added the option to choose the annuity providers would go out of business, and how a can government of crony capitalists let that happen.

    • @desaigovardhan
      @desaigovardhan 2 месяца назад

      The annuity plan for the safety net, like SWP of course...If one is happy with SWP then annuity is also the same(Compulsory of course, letting out your emotions and not misuse for you or for children but for the person who has actually saved and is old)

    • @cyberbully7718
      @cyberbully7718 2 месяца назад

      @@desaigovardhan An annuity plan is only good for a person with zero financial knowledge whatsoever to speak of but if you have a even sliver of the said knowledge you will definitely steer away from an annuity plan, but of course they are a good product for people who don't want to worry about their market return and are comfortable with paltry but assured returns of an annuity product. But the mandatory purchase of annuity in the NPS certainly is a poor decision on the part of PFRDA which has deterred many from investing in the NPS.

  • @anoshsoman1
    @anoshsoman1 2 месяца назад +1

    Nps review and revision done through this podcast

  • @akshaychougule5503
    @akshaychougule5503 2 месяца назад +13

    Annuity plan removes all the importance of NPS. This needs to be relooked..

    • @aparnadange7168
      @aparnadange7168 2 месяца назад +1

      The word pension and annuity are synonyms so that’s in the name and not hiding with Jeevan this Jeevan that . Most Jeevan products are pension products

    • @spartaautube
      @spartaautube 23 дня назад +1

      Wrong notion. You can just invest in mutual funds if you requirement is not “pension “

    • @manishagarwal527
      @manishagarwal527 3 дня назад +1

      The day you grow Old and unable to work and Earn , you will understand the value of Annuity. Please save for Old Age if you can now , safety of capital is more imp. than return

  • @SumitSharma-hf2yv
    @SumitSharma-hf2yv Месяц назад +1

    Anupam Ji, a request to you. If possible try to get Mr Sankar Naren CIO of Ipru Amc to your channel, it will definitely be great to hear his thoughts on equity.

  • @tapk1995
    @tapk1995 Месяц назад +3

    Stay away from NPS, I have invested 50L and @ 60-40 equity and debt and my growth on CAGR shows 15.5% but over last 3 yrs the profit I earned is ₹7 Lakh. It’s even less than FD return

  • @gsrahi
    @gsrahi 2 месяца назад +5

    Changing fund manager or choice in tier 1 for government employees is not possible. Please suggest/comment if it is possible.

    • @ankushdadhwal20
      @ankushdadhwal20 2 месяца назад

      it is there, kindly check

    • @gsrahi
      @gsrahi 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ankushdadhwal20 Yes, it's there. All subscribers (government, Tier I) get the privilege of having their contributions funneled into the default scheme, where a whopping 15% is daringly invested in equity and the rest sits comfortably in fixed income. Of course, subscribers have no say in this brilliant strategy, which generously delivers around 9% returns each year. What a deal!

    • @gsrahi
      @gsrahi 2 месяца назад

      @@ankushdadhwal20 Yes, it's there. All subscribers (government, Tier I) get the privilege of having their contributions funneled into the default scheme, where a whopping 15% is daringly invested in equity and the rest sits comfortably in fixed income. Of course, subscribers have no say in this brilliant strategy, which generously delivers around 9% returns each year. What a deal!

    • @gsrahi
      @gsrahi 2 месяца назад

      @@ankushdadhwal20 For government employees in Tier 1, the default choice is fixed between SBI, UTI, and LIC, with no option to switch providers. The portfolio is divided, with 15% invested in equities and 85% in government securities

    • @RakeshYadav-ec9dy
      @RakeshYadav-ec9dy 2 месяца назад

      It's depend on employers.​@@gsrahi

  • @rahulparekh6381
    @rahulparekh6381 Месяц назад +1

    There is no guarantee that maturity amount would be tax free. Now a days budget is unpredictable

  • @rmittal2503
    @rmittal2503 2 месяца назад +7

    Disappointing, that 40% annuity was not even discussed which is major issue to address

    • @mjspeaking
      @mjspeaking 2 месяца назад +1

      This is the biggest problem in the NPS structure. On that 40% annuity, people are getting somewhere around 6 to 7 % returns with no money back at death. This must improve.

  • @mystictilopa2812
    @mystictilopa2812 2 месяца назад +4

    Annuity is the real problem in NPS. This problem nullifies the importance of NPS.

    • @Ranger2479
      @Ranger2479 2 месяца назад

      But its pension, not investment, are you really dumb or just kidding?

  • @rrkatheer
    @rrkatheer 2 месяца назад

    Very useful insights about NPS that I have ever gone through anywhere.

  • @milindaeron
    @milindaeron 2 месяца назад +3

    Under which section the deduction on employer's contribution to PF can be claimed?

    • @rahulparekh6381
      @rahulparekh6381 Месяц назад

      u/s 80CCD (1B) this is for ordinary public nps. Not employer.

  • @rbharadwaj16
    @rbharadwaj16 2 месяца назад +12

    In all honesty, there hasn't been anything new here that was discussed with regards to NPS, probably because it's pretty much the same story of NPS being a "con" heavy product. To really make this product viable -
    1) Make it an Index fund, preferably that follows Nifty50/Sensex. Can probably further lower the cost.
    2) Annuity plan that is bought into should be inflation linked. So much gyan about retirement without providing an inflation coverage makes no sense.
    3) People understand now that this is a retirement product and don't need a forceful lock in. At least the product should allow 80-90% withdrawal of entire corpus in case of emergencies. What's the point of retirement if you cannnot treat your family's emergency when needed?
    4) The introduction of UPS means, NPS will be taking a back seat from a government's POV. This clearly tells that NPS is not a solution for retirement problems that India is going to face in the future!

    • @guharup
      @guharup 2 месяца назад +1

      Point 3 is nonsense and point 4 is conjecture

    • @002nrv
      @002nrv 2 месяца назад

      How much low cost you need, it's is already low then MF index cost

    • @rbharadwaj16
      @rbharadwaj16 2 месяца назад +1

      @@002nrv the essence of the msg here is not to make it further low cost. The focus is to make it an Index fund and by doing so, if the by product is further lowering of cost, then why not?

    • @codedusting
      @codedusting 2 месяца назад

      There's no future in India in my estimation. It's going the US way in the worst possible way.

    • @sivarank
      @sivarank 2 месяца назад

      it is 33% (30+3% surcharge) tax saving for > 50 Lakh salary guys.
      NPS investment makes 49.25 % profit (100% captial money) if we compare it with Mutal fund (67% captial post 33% tax deduction).
      NPS performance is inline with Largecap MFs.
      I am 40 year old with >50Lakh bracket. I feel, NPS make sense for me for my retirement plan.

  • @tapk1995
    @tapk1995 Месяц назад +1

    Why give 40% to insurance for annuity? Who said it will not go bust? Why can’t Govt Sita ji take that 40% and pay pension

  • @Florencewalter-o4s
    @Florencewalter-o4s 2 месяца назад +8

    I retired at age 53, so I am in my early 60s. Many of them resisted me because they couldn't understand the idea of not working if it wasn't necessary. I considered the phases of my life. I worked very hard to achieve what I have now, but in my last years, I owe it to myself to "stop and smell the roses." In my instance, I departed the nation after retiring and currently reside in Latin America. It made it possible for me to appreciate my new surroundings while escaping all the bad things that were going on in America. Nobody that I know of regrets retiring has yet to come to me.

    • @William-y1d-l5c
      @William-y1d-l5c 2 месяца назад

      Nice way to retire. For me, I believe retirees who struggle to meet their basic needs are the ones who could not accumulate enough money during their active years to meet their needs. Retirement choices determine a lot of things. My wife and I both spent same number of years in the civil service, she invested through a wealth manager and myself through the 401k. We both still earning after our retirement fund has grown way more than it would have with just the 401(k). Haha.

    • @duanec.sutherland5292
      @duanec.sutherland5292 2 месяца назад

      It's unfortunate most people don't have such information. I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than a million dollars by just investing through an advisor, and I don't have to do much work. Doesn't matter if the economy is misbehaving; great wealth managers will always make returns.

    • @LavernSTERN
      @LavernSTERN 2 месяца назад

      I think this is something I should do, but I've been stalling for a long time now. I don't really know which firm to work with; I feel they are all the same but it seems you’ve got it all worked out with the firm you work with so i surely wouldn’t mind a recommendation.

    • @duanec.sutherland5292
      @duanec.sutherland5292 2 месяца назад

      I definitely share your sentiment about these firms. Finding financial advisors like Kathie Daisy Bosco who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.

    • @LavernSTERN
      @LavernSTERN 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.

  • @vkumar6693
    @vkumar6693 2 месяца назад

    This discussion on NPS was very informative and helpful sir. Thank you very much 🙏.
    I will definitely go for contributing to NPS. And even thinking of starting the NPS Vatsalya scheme for both my children.

  • @stevencolaco4931
    @stevencolaco4931 Месяц назад

    Pls share date for all the analysis for listerners to understand the facts.Is the gentleman saying NPS is better than investing in mutual funds?

  • @pramodmahapatra7066
    @pramodmahapatra7066 Месяц назад

    Worth watching 👍

    • @pradeep2kedar
      @pradeep2kedar 21 день назад +1

      Worth watching, but not for investing 😂

  • @kaushiksarkar7201
    @kaushiksarkar7201 Месяц назад +1

    Returns comes out as 11% CAGR

  • @18hourgaming66
    @18hourgaming66 11 дней назад

    When you move from Tier 2 to Tier 1 you have to pay tax at your marginal tax rate because it is considered withdrawl. There is no free lunch here.

  • @hamzajafri7764
    @hamzajafri7764 2 месяца назад

    Great content 👍

  • @rohankaikiniyt
    @rohankaikiniyt 2 месяца назад +1

    A bit disappointing to see that you didn't address the 40% annuity component options..
    Also, while discussing the lock in period, you only addressed the upside of staying invested i.e higher returns. What about cases where people don't have access to their corpus in certain unforseen circumstances, over and above the emergency fund?
    Just got a one-sided view.

  • @Ranger2479
    @Ranger2479 2 месяца назад +2

    I don't know why everybody going dumb all of a sudden. Its a pension system guys, not an investment portfolio. Why do you even expect lump sum withdrawl? Its giving 60% which is more than enough for one. And 60 years lock-in is the best feature, so that you can't spend money for not needed things. And if you talking about emergencies, without already creating an emergency fund, I have nothing to say you.

    • @rrkatheer
      @rrkatheer 2 месяца назад

      True

    • @mjspeaking
      @mjspeaking 2 месяца назад +1

      Very well said. This is one product for a given purpose; and when you build a portfolio you can build emergency fund. That has nothing to do with pension.

    • @Ranger2479
      @Ranger2479 2 месяца назад

      @@mjspeaking Exactly right? This is why pre planning is always needed before implementation.

  • @ds-qw2cl
    @ds-qw2cl 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic

  • @maasanjana
    @maasanjana 2 месяца назад

    Wonderful conversation. Thank you.

  • @vineetunny6719
    @vineetunny6719 2 месяца назад

    What is taxation on tier 2

  • @themboys304
    @themboys304 2 месяца назад +23

    So let me get this straight, I invest all my life till the age of 60 only to discover, I don't have access or control over 40% of that money. Welcome to NPS!

    • @sudip_curiousmind
      @sudip_curiousmind 2 месяца назад +4

      Well different products have different advantages and disadvantages, in a another comparable product like equity MF you will straightway pay 12.5% of the gains as capital gains tax.

    • @themboys304
      @themboys304 2 месяца назад

      @@sudip_curiousmind I agree with the technicality of your comment.
      However, you could avoid LTCG of 12.5% through strategies such as repurposing for real estate there are sections that help with that and also reduce tax via cleverly using SWP.
      However, 40% of annuity even after so many years of investing is a bit odd. The control should be over the individual. Plus the returns at a long term in NPS considering lockin and annuity are relatively low.
      But you are right different instruments has its own advantages or disadvantages and based on pur needs it is up to us to decide. I hope the government amends the NPS instrument to make it more lucrative.

    • @sumanpaulchowdhury8333
      @sumanpaulchowdhury8333 2 месяца назад +4

      It's NPS. Don't you see the word Pension? Whenever there is pension there is a kind of annuity. The money is not for investment but for a security during your retirement. You are getting 60% that's enough. Don't go for it if you don't want pension.... it's as simple as that. There are lots of other options. Go for that....NPS is not for investment. The only thing is it's Market linked..if you wish.

    • @Hindustanibahubali
      @Hindustanibahubali 2 месяца назад

      @@themboys304 nobody is forcing you to invest? Anyone ?

    • @tarundel26
      @tarundel26 2 месяца назад +4

      Only to discover??? Man! You mean you will invest for 60 years without knowing that 40% will be pension 😂. So it is schemes fault or yours? I can only say, Please get educated 😊

  • @easwarandevaraj7085
    @easwarandevaraj7085 2 месяца назад

    Is premature exit possible in tier 1 after 10 years

  • @sudheerk67
    @sudheerk67 2 месяца назад +10

    You may do a 100 podcats. But the elephant in the room, Super Annuity is a horrendous thing nobody can defend with honesty.
    Whatever retuns and tax saving you do is totally nullified by this Annuity devil.

    • @anweshsingh9164
      @anweshsingh9164 2 месяца назад +1

      This is true and they are not talking about it.
      6 percent annuity rate is very low and it does not increase with inflation.
      Example- if you were getting 30000 when you turn 60 , even after 15 years( you turn 75) your pension will be again 30000…
      This is the biggest flaw in NPS.

  • @owaislatief8805
    @owaislatief8805 2 месяца назад

    To ur logic one can get 42% more units in nps then what abt elss which more returns n lock in of only 3 yrs

  • @TynKiTan
    @TynKiTan 2 месяца назад +8

    This video is just like an LIC uncle bragging about benefits of taking a ULIP from LIC which yields only 4% and claiming that its tax free and will help you attain nirvana in the future 😂

  • @sushilshewale5660
    @sushilshewale5660 2 месяца назад +2

    No one will tell you if in case Rahul Gandagi and Other Chor comes in to central power then, mark my word your Corpus will go down by atleast 60-65% , reason- to distribute your welth in one community...
    So your money is growing and safe till BJP in Power...

    • @TheSuperking1987
      @TheSuperking1987 Месяц назад +1

      Nps became available to all citizens from 2009 and bjp was not in power at that time. Bjp came after 2014

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    @Denafelix41 2 месяца назад +6

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      @stepJekins-c9t 2 месяца назад

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      @LlamasJoe 2 месяца назад

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      @christopher56-x7j 2 месяца назад

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  • @abhiprop4038
    @abhiprop4038 Месяц назад

    Our beloved nirmala madem will put 30percent plus 5percent cess once she senses money in nps corpus😂😂😂

  • @ShafiqueM
    @ShafiqueM Месяц назад

    Maturity age should be decreased to 50 years.

  • @sanjaysoni5246
    @sanjaysoni5246 2 месяца назад

    The Honourable guest has got a lot of things wrong, especially about the Tier 2 to Tier 1 move. It is not tax free. Immediately, you will have to pay tax on your gains or marginal rates. This needs to be corrected

    • @sumanpaulchowdhury8333
      @sumanpaulchowdhury8333 2 месяца назад +2

      Sir, please go through the website of NPS. The transfer is tax free. You don't have to sale your units to transfer it to Tier 1 from tire 2 . So no tax to be paid on capital gains. I did that last year and I didn't pay any tax.

  • @sushilshewale5660
    @sushilshewale5660 2 месяца назад +1

    No one will tell you if in case Rahul Gandagi and Other Chor comes in to central power then, mark my word your Corpus will go down by atleast 60-65% , reason- to distribute your welth in one community...
    So your money is growing and safe till BJP in Power...