Sorry the audio was so quiet. I definitely didn't forget to turn on the "make loud" button. Now I shall make up some excuse like I had my hearing aids turned all the way up. For the nerds that care. Davinci Resolve has a dialogue leveler thing, it kicks butt and is amazing. However, it also makes your audio lag for like 3 seconds and it makes editing unbearable. I enable the dialogue leveler as the last thing before rendering. But, this video is version 2 because I forgot to say the reported messages get cached. So to edit that in, I disabled dialogue leveler and forgot to turn it back on. Gamers, don't edit at 9pm because your brain wont work :)
Yeah 6 out of 10 minutes of the video I was messing around with everything I got to make this louder, I was certain it was an editing mistake but still tried :P Also, you think 9 PM is late? I be studying for 2 hours from 2 to 4 AM 💀
@@miciso666 Man what are you even meant to when shit like that happens? Like yeah ban the people who did it and delete it, plus reporting it obviously, but like, they’re probably gonna get away with it which sucks
@@breadstick4458theres also a way to nuke servers by sending cp links to trick discord into deleting the whole server and warn every members, there was a meme server im in that got deleted because some mfkers send stuffs for a while so the admins dont notice then edit into cp link
While I like the idea of reporting message, the lack of ANY BASIC FEATURES on the feature is baffling to look at, for a million dollar company they really suck at handling this app.
discords money is in the negatives, they are BLEEDING money, they rely on investments to stay afloat, so they really are not a million dollar company, more like negative a million
@@flamingscar5263 That's false. Their company evaluation comes in at $15 BILLION. With 1M paying users yearly; this doesn't include gifts and server boosts, which is even more money in their pockets. I'd say they're well off with cash along with partnerships and advertising.
So true, when i reported a invite rewards server i was told theres no problem with boost for nitro, CAUSE THEY DONT READ CONTEXT, then when my friend was offering art for money and sone random person that didnt even open a ticket made a scam report to discord
As someone who has never had a report of actual pedos and Nazis actually accomplish anything and who got a warning on my account from a false report made by an alt-right hate troll, this is absolutely true.
I once reported this one dude who was sending gore to children on the Minecraft discord server, and after around 3 reports and an email, they didn't respond. I replied to all the emails and they still didn't respond, this man is still not banned.
Giving badges to good reporters would be bad, because there definitely are people who would make fake accounts and post bad stuff just so they can report it with their main account. Thus creating a lot of fake reports.
I'm gonna say this: A Discord badge for good reporters is a really bad idea in the case of scam reports. Because it gives scammer a clear indicator of who NOT to try and scam
In all honesty, these are likely bots, why would I bother making a botted account check for badges? It's likely more API calls which limits my activities.
The funniest thing of all is that if the person you are trying to report deletes the message while you are in the report menu, when you try to submit the report, it gives an error
@@kiazoings if you are over 13 years old (which discord allows the youngest to be on their platform) you should have learn how to manage with "harassment" talk about even online...💀 Doxxers won't dox you for no reason, if you mess with them of course they will do bad to you. As same as IRL, if you see a criminal would you go mess with him? No, of course if you are not an idiot. Also you can request your dox to be taken down if you are under the age of 18. Scammers is maybe the most valid out of all 3 you mentioned, but still i don't think they should be punished for using idiots who are dumb enough to make their schemes work. People are trying their hardest to strip away freedom from the internet because they are too stupid to use it.
I think that the bar in the support tab in settings could be some sort of reputation system that gives your reports some trust when you're on the green bar.
a few weeks ago, i sent my irl friend his address to confirm he lived there, and as a joke he reported me for it and my account got disabled and when i sent an appeal they literally just said "sorry we're not gonna restore your account"
I believe the bar for the safety tab is planned for a "trust" factor. If it's in the red, you must've sent in a few joke reports or false flags, and you can have reports disabled, marked as low priority, or worse- ignored. While a high rating in the green means your reports are genuine and they can get on said reports quicker, knowing it's by someone with decent judgement. Akin to CS:GO hacker reports from what I've heard of that.
Maybe in the case of a cp server, instead of doing all of that unsafe stuff to report it to discord, just report it directly to the FBI, and they'll talk to discord. Just as a workaround until discord fixes their broken reporting system.
I'm afraid the fbi really wouldn't care too much more, law enforcement in general is incredibly lazy and will do the bare minimum until people get on their ass
10:20 - I think that chart would be for the status of reports, Green for a successfully solved report, yellow for pending or unresolved/unreveiwed reports, and red for rejected reports. It's one of the only things I could think the bar is for if this has to do with a report system
This seems useless tbh, i would rather have the rating under the tab of the specific report. Though, it could also be a personal user rating; which could be weaponized depending on if it shows the status of YOU or towards some goal/badge.
7:33 Hey, that’s me! Thank you for sharing my tweet, I’m glad I was able to speak to the trust and safety side of things (and give you a glimmer of hope in doing so). There are a few things I’d like to address in your video as well, if I may. Your lack of faith in tns operators to understand what you’re reporting feels *a bit* disingenuous. Let me use your own example to explain. When you report someone for abuse and inciting violence, the first thing tns is going to look at is the link in their message. It’s great that you want to tell them what it is, but they would need to look to verify anyway! This is the case with most things people add to reports, which is why I imagine they decided they don’t need additional input. I also want to elaborate a little on the bit on what I said about Discord having a lot of info to look at that you might not realize. You bring up that you can’t tie two reports together, which might seem frustrating! However, it’s typical that someone looking at a report will be able to see things like if the user has been reported previously, how recently, what for, etc etc. A lot goes into evaluating a report, and that kind of meta info is already at the fingertips of the person reviewing. They already have more info than you do! I’ll reiterate that I get being annoyed at change, we all resist it. And I know the system isn’t perfect. There are some things that are pretty annoying (or impossible) to report right now, and I do think Discord needs to address that (though, the feedback site isn’t part of that - that’s not on Discord, it’s its own problem). But I say with sincerity that this change is going to be good in the long run.
That bar at the end of the video looks more like "reputation". The amount of times this account has been "reported". The more you get reported the lesser your reputation goes, and if it goes into the red zone discord might just delete the account. But its just a theory.
When trust & safety was still a thing a reported someone for being underage, keep in mind they had 11 years old in their about me. After a couple days I got an email back saying that they can't ban the underage user because HE DIDN'T SEND A MESSAGE SAYING HE WAS UNDER AGE. I'd once again like to remind you that IT WAS IN HIS ABOUT ME
Sucks because even with either of these systems, people will still exploit them and get your account deleted in fourteen days because discord has such a BAD trust and safety systems, and ignore your time specific ban appeals.
I think in the last part of the videos the colour would show how it shouldve been filtered, and you would be able to change from high to no filtration, and the colours would show based on what level of how acceptable it is to the system that is filtering the messages
thank you for bringing attention to the flaw in reporting cp servers. I've been terminated and made appeals but never got a response despite me being the one to report it.
Hey NTTS, you know this already but your efforts are immensely appreciated! And from a human to another, I hope you are taking good care of yourself. Have a nice day!
Even if the old reporting system wasn’t any better than the new one, and this new one is hopefully part of a revamped, more acceptable version that’s being worked on, I do feel that Discord still dropped the ball on a lot of things here! (More like dropping half of the entire basketball court actually…) they should have kept the old version, and let the community know before any big changes like this! At least with the username change, they informed us that it was happening! And as annoying as that change may have been, at least they let us know! (I will admit, that the reaction to that change was certainly a bit overwhelming though, but with as big of a user base that Discord has, that’s kind of expected. Same with any social media platform!) Even if they *had* to remove the old reporting system, the least they could do is give us a heads up! (This is just speculation here: This kinda feels like a response to the backlash they got from the username change. Since they got so much flak for that just from the announcement, it feels that they decided that the community doesn’t deserve to be notified of changes, because either way, everyone seems to dislike them. Obviously this is 100% speculation on my part, and it could be they just have so many things going on and they just mishandled the rollout, but whether it was negligence, miscommunication, or actual pettiness, Discord should have given their users SOME official notice about this change! Why couldn’t they have just kept both report options and slowly transition users over from using the old report system, to the new one that they are developing? It’s still in very early stages anyway, so they need to have a functioning option while the new one is being tested!) I know that this new one seems both easier, and better to an extent than the old report system, and hopefully it can still be somewhat useful for reporting icky behavior while the full version is being worked on, AND I know that we don’t know how Discord fully works, so they probably had to fully switch to the new report system even though it’s still in beta. BUT, That doesn’t make this mess any less annoying. I just hope that this new system can be refined and working ASAP! And I hope the current version is as decent as they say, and the discord trust and safety team are able to use it to better help users and deal with issues as well!
Discord already does not hesitate to ban entire communities and servers full of people, as well as the people in the server who also receive a ban for at best, debatable reasons while letting insane servers stay up. So truthfully, I don't t trust them any.
Maybe that progress bar is the progress of your current report being processed, like first "we noticed it", then "we're on it", then "ok we banned the person"
This reminds me a lot of reddit. Before I left that hole, I used to do a lot of manual reporting of bots. I had a bunch of browser tools to streamline the process, was active in unofficial bot defense communities, and had honed my technique to the point where I could usually guess bot status correctly just by the post and username. But over time, reddit's reporting situation got worse and worse. The site redesign moved reporting from a *real* message to admins, with full context, to a pre-made form where you had to choose a reason (which often didn't cover the situation properly) and also had to manually enter each username in specific slots with a cap on the number (horrible for reporting bot rings working together). Then over time they slowly stopped responding to reports, to the point where I could send proof of a botted and sold account posting crypto scams or whatever and it would stay up for months. Finally with the whole anti-third-party crusade recently I decided I was done. They can have their site, nice and overrun with spam. I hope they enjoy it.
I once tried to report a user a couple years ago for being extremely... well, shitty. After spending nearly two hours trying to find out how to report them, I finally found... something? I think it was that "message" to admins or whatever. Anyway, I tried to report them and got no response. That was the last time I ever used reddit lol.
one thing discord needs to add is the easy ability to report whole servers, because if the server is breaking TOS then I don't want to go in and report every single message
There's a whole lot of *no* communication from Discord lately about how their platform works. Just a few things I've actively needed to go looking for, *beyond* their blog and other socials: - Add Friend Nickname (not even everyone I asked seems to know when this started from) - Highlights (of my sample of several active communities, very few have even heard of this) - Show All Channels (people can't see entire servers sometimes and don't know why) Now reports too? Discord as a whole entity has not said jack about what changes are being made, how they're going to work, why they're being made, etc. *Any* communication at all is almost a miracle, really.
Exactly! At the very least, they should keep the description box for reports as well as all the other tools! I’m glad the reports are cached, so they actually are there for Discord support to see… but that seems to be only one positive thing in this whole system! The old one was too much work for your average user, and to an extent, I’m mildly glad (or at least I understand why) they replaced the old system. BUT THEY NEED TO KEEP THE DESCRIPTION OPTION AS A STANDARD FEATURE FOR THIS SYSTEM! Thankfully, this new system is still being developed so they still can add that back in! (And considering it seems they’re moving the whole reporting system into Discord itself rather than divided between two web pages, I’m guessing they may have to either recode that function from scratch to make it work in Discord, or at least heavily modify the old description box code to work in Discord, both app and desktop. I hope they do that and soon! Even if they can’t finish the whole system asap, they at least should focus on bringing the text description box into the system first and foremost! And above all, they should have at LEAST given everyone a heads up or something about!)
@@drewo.127 NTTS mentioned the League of Legends report system, which is honestly pretty great. Not only do you get to report people DURING a game now, but you can report people in the lobby after a game and give context; AND if you forgot to report them in the lobby, you can access their support page and send in a late report while also adding even more context (and sometimes, screenshots!). Also, if an account adds you and sends you a weird message, you can report THAT as well. Too many League players whine about their reporting system being "broken" (I think it works pretty well these days, most of my reports get handled), but honestly I'd bet money that they're the ones mucking up the community anyways. (I once saw a post of someone literally admitting to using a SLUR and complaining about their account getting banned...) You're right about Discord needing to keep a description option, as well as the fact they should've given us a warning about the changed system... The fact that Discord is *literally* worse than the infamous League of Legends Support System (gasp!!!) is astonishing.
I hate reporting messages using the report button. Some time ago, someone posted p0rn on my general channel (because the Discord automoderation filters got reset...) and instead of instantly deleting it, I had to delete it after 1 minute because I needed to click the report button, find the appropriate CATEGORY, and then submit the report...
On Twitch you can report channel points, redeems, even community challenges. You can report so much. why doesn't Discord just have an option to just right click a user, not a message, and press report, alternatively open up the big profile and also choosing report. From user based report, you can choose to report username, avatar, banner, bio, pronouns, and such. That's a step in the right direction.
itd probably lead to a lot of false reports for people that just want the badge, and a lot of false bans because T&S cant tell when something isnt true
But then they wouldn't get the badge because of not reporting adequately, so discord users will become crime hunters and go to a civil war with discord mods
@@baconofburger8784 uh, what's that gonna do? Those would be false report, 13 is also within discord's rules and there's a chance discord knows what I do and bans my main
My Discord account got straight-up terminated because they thought I was under 13. It's actually ridiculous. I'm turning 18 soon, so I thought, "Let's appeal this nonsense." I went ahead and gave them my passport and a selfie holding a paper with my username. But guess what? They said the identification was valid but they couldn't validate it because the pic of me holding the passport wasn't in the "same image as my face + holding the paper." Like, seriously? It's so obvious that my face matches the passport. It's been a week, and they haven't bothered to reply to my appeal, even though I did it all in one photo later on, just like they asked. If they don't get back to me by tomorrow, they're gonna delete my account. Great support team discord!
It should be illegal for big companies like that to not have actual people reviewing reports, and not having a text field to give extra context. My mom's old facebook account got logged into by someone and they changed her account name to something different, changed the email, but kept all the posts on her page, all her friends, I tried to report the account, but it didn't allow me to give context when I tried to report it, and facebook was like "That account is fine", it's NOT, and if I could give context, I would! I told my mom to warn her friends on her current account to report that account and to unfriend it in case it starts sending spam messages and she did. That stolen account is still up. You used to be able to call facebook or email them, but now they don't allow either. Those account takeovers are really common on facebook, and this lack of support on these companies sites in order to cut corners to save money where necessary operational expenses should be, enables cybercrime. It's wild.
i had a friend report somone about 2 months ago for being underage and discord somehow mistook the report and banned him then ignored his appeal and about a month later his account was deleted
Cant wait for discord to add a badge for reporting and then people are going to create accounts, write something bad, report with their main and get the badge.
Discord has a major transparency problem. They continue to make changed to the app without explanation. If they noticed an issue with the reporting system and this is a temporary solution, that would be great to know. But because they don't tell us why they've made changes, the users are left to assume the worst
4:44 A while back, i saw a discord staff member in the Discord Admins Community say that you can just report any of the person's messages and they can review their profile.
They won’t create a badge for this, with the same reason as they “removed” the verified bot developer badge, badge goblins are going to create fake reports to try to get the badge
Sometimes I wonder why im on such an awful platform like discord. But I like keeping other people safe and your videos help me keep myself self aware. Moderating a 40k member server and 65k member server and discord pulling all this shit is really something. Cmon discord, help us a little... I dont want younger members (13/14) to get hacked or something cause they arent aware of such links and stuff.
I recently reported someone who was making fun and harassing someone i know irl bc they were using a picture of themselves as a pfp, i tried to talk to the admins and they were friends with the guy, and they just laughed at me and told me "Its discord dude, shut up or ill call a swat team on you". I know that a bunch of kids cant do shit but still reported everything to discord and... They told me to right click and report using that method... Still no punishment has been made.
Very good fun fact (probably bad): Discord has access to every message you ever sent on the tip of their fingers, they save EVERY message sent on the platform, and they can use it against you later, so remember when you said you're 12 3 years ago? yeah they have that and can ban you for it.
The report functions on apps works like a criminal getting away because somebody had to file a complaint form to a robot officer cop that takes really slow and lets the hacker criminal get away with crimes
10:27 No Mr. Text to Speech, that bar is going to turn into a Discord Credit Score. Prepare to have your credit score tank because someone led a mass report campaign against you
5:49 this is why, no matter how bad something is, I never report it. I do not want to risk getting a server I am in banned, taking me with it, just because one person sent tos violating content. If it is club penguin content tho i normally report it to ncmec
Sorry the audio was so quiet. I definitely didn't forget to turn on the "make loud" button. Now I shall make up some excuse like I had my hearing aids turned all the way up.
For the nerds that care. Davinci Resolve has a dialogue leveler thing, it kicks butt and is amazing. However, it also makes your audio lag for like 3 seconds and it makes editing unbearable. I enable the dialogue leveler as the last thing before rendering. But, this video is version 2 because I forgot to say the reported messages get cached. So to edit that in, I disabled dialogue leveler and forgot to turn it back on. Gamers, don't edit at 9pm because your brain wont work :)
Yeah 6 out of 10 minutes of the video I was messing around with everything I got to make this louder, I was certain it was an editing mistake but still tried :P
Also, you think 9 PM is late? I be studying for 2 hours from 2 to 4 AM 💀
I'm a nerd that cares
Good channel
it's alright NTTS, we still love you
I thought RUclips broken again
Removing the text field for reporting? Absolutely genius. Now they can all play a fun game of "Guess the Offender"
Next thing you know it'll be added to nitro as a feature lmao
@@zz1426 and you know there will be some people saying it's actually a good thing
@@theblasphemousgamer4888 💀🤡
@@theblasphemousgamer4888”Um um um its actually a good thing cuz now i cant be spammed with reports when i say racist shtuff! 🤓🤓🤓”
Your comment got liked 666 times, nice.
Imagine not letting people clean your app
they dont have to
yeah
same with roblox
@@danyal_assi they changed the system but false reports still exist
Yeah i reported two scammers 1 Month ago, both are still not banned.
Reddit, Twitter, Discord... it's like everyone is speedrunning to actively make their platform worse.
What the first one to go bankrupt
WHO CAN GO INSANE FIRST SPEEDRUN
twitter..
bro ask roblox community how bad their moderation suck
@@danyal_assi That's right, I totally forgot about Roblox too lol
You'd think after a guy leaked classified documents over Discord, they'd revamp and overhaul their Trust and Safety system
Yesterday a channel spammed tons of cp. 😅
@@miciso666 Man what are you even meant to when shit like that happens? Like yeah ban the people who did it and delete it, plus reporting it obviously, but like, they’re probably gonna get away with it which sucks
@@breadstick4458theres also a way to nuke servers by sending cp links to trick discord into deleting the whole server and warn every members, there was a meme server im in that got deleted because some mfkers send stuffs for a while so the admins dont notice then edit into cp link
@@weirdo2104thats smart tho
@@xAffan There are bots that log edited and deleted messages, soo server staff should have a tool to fight back
While I like the idea of reporting message, the lack of ANY BASIC FEATURES on the feature is baffling to look at, for a million dollar company they really suck at handling this app.
@@sieksa1 Than Discord? I believe it.
@@sieksa1 even that bot agrees that discord's team sucks
@@snovbirdlol
discords money is in the negatives, they are BLEEDING money, they rely on investments to stay afloat, so they really are not a million dollar company, more like negative a million
@@flamingscar5263 That's false. Their company evaluation comes in at $15 BILLION. With 1M paying users yearly; this doesn't include gifts and server boosts, which is even more money in their pockets. I'd say they're well off with cash along with partnerships and advertising.
Discord’s trust and saftey was gone before they removed trust and safety
it never existed
@@BabzaiWWP What did?
“ saftey “
Remember: No discord reports work, unless it's a false report
They don't see it till some random person reports someone for posting their age
So true, when i reported a invite rewards server i was told theres no problem with boost for nitro, CAUSE THEY DONT READ CONTEXT, then when my friend was offering art for money and sone random person that didnt even open a ticket made a scam report to discord
Or if it's out of context stuff (like joking about 12 years old for playing Fortnite)
I wish that wasn't true
As someone who has never had a report of actual pedos and Nazis actually accomplish anything and who got a warning on my account from a false report made by an alt-right hate troll, this is absolutely true.
I once reported this one dude who was sending gore to children on the Minecraft discord server, and after around 3 reports and an email, they didn't respond. I replied to all the emails and they still didn't respond, this man is still not banned.
Reminds me of how Discord still hasn't banned a cub artist despite 7 reports.
dude what 😭😭
You would of had better luck if you told them that the guy was republican lol.
@@swgclips03you need to be a bit more specific because I can see a lot of people taking that in the wrong way and not seeing the problem.
Cub artist's images he's sent reported several times, mind you several. Nothing has or will ever be done I guess.
Giving badges to good reporters would be bad, because there definitely are people who would make fake accounts and post bad stuff just so they can report it with their main account. Thus creating a lot of fake reports.
cobra problem
They should get an IP ban at that point 😅
people just gonna call you a snitch nobody would want that badge lmao
Not to mention the increase in malicious reports.
Discord likely logs your IP addresses as well. It's going to take someone quite inventive to get these badges from reporting their own alts.
I swear NTTS's mic volume gets quieter and quieter in every video, can't hear a thing without turning the volume to about 900%
Same lol my ears got blasted clicking on the next video I wanted to watch
I forgor to do something my bad :(
I only Realized now my volume is on max 😂😂😂😂thanks for this one lmao
same
lmao I also realized my volume is 100%
I'm gonna say this: A Discord badge for good reporters is a really bad idea in the case of scam reports. Because it gives scammer a clear indicator of who NOT to try and scam
That's what the alts are for
In all honesty, these are likely bots, why would I bother making a botted account check for badges? It's likely more API calls which limits my activities.
@@ZeldagigafanMatthew there's still quite a bit of human scammers, like fake game devs or fake artists
knowing scammers they'll prolly ignore this anyway as most of the ones i've seen barely has any functional braincells
only a few will avoid it i bet
Isn’t that even better in some ways because in that sense you can make urself even less likely to even get spam in the first place
Making a report system in-app is absolutely a good idea. The problem is they botched it here
The funniest thing of all is that if the person you are trying to report deletes the message while you are in the report menu, when you try to submit the report, it gives an error
You can't trust anyone at discord because there is no trust & safety
There are but just a handful of them are full time. Discord is one of the few large platforms that does not outsource their T&S.
its a shame discord gets worse and worse overtime, they rarely make good stuff now
Even more of a shame that people support it and still pay for nitro features that should be free
@@thechugg4372money's money
Im gonna stop buy subscriptions from now on. Until then, i need to find an actual alternative with mature communities.
it makes good stuff if you pay them your life savings
@@KemonoGamer75 there is Element
If they give a good reporter badge, they should call it "The Snitch"
i think people should be rewarded for reporting cp not insulted lol
@@chokomaru5465 for cp yeah but for everything else you should have been made fun of tbh
@@Exieledharassment, doxxing, scammers..?
@@kiazoings if you are over 13 years old (which discord allows the youngest to be on their platform) you should have learn how to manage with "harassment" talk about even online...💀
Doxxers won't dox you for no reason, if you mess with them of course they will do bad to you. As same as IRL, if you see a criminal would you go mess with him? No, of course if you are not an idiot. Also you can request your dox to be taken down if you are under the age of 18. Scammers is maybe the most valid out of all 3 you mentioned, but still i don't think they should be punished for using idiots who are dumb enough to make their schemes work. People are trying their hardest to strip away freedom from the internet because they are too stupid to use it.
Good reporter badge tiers:
The Bronze Snitch
The Silver Snitch
The Gold Snitch
The Dimond Snitch
I think that the bar in the support tab in settings could be some sort of reputation system that gives your reports some trust when you're on the green bar.
a few weeks ago, i sent my irl friend his address to confirm he lived there, and as a joke he reported me for it and my account got disabled and when i sent an appeal they literally just said "sorry we're not gonna restore your account"
Discord mods will take down jokes, yet they turn a blind eye to actual problems.
@@MeemahSN That has nothing to do with "Discord mods" thats Discord staff mate, other than that I agree
@@justespelundstaff that moderate
Bro, if they add a badge for reporting bad people, I'd be hunting down people, pokemon style.
I believe the bar for the safety tab is planned for a "trust" factor. If it's in the red, you must've sent in a few joke reports or false flags, and you can have reports disabled, marked as low priority, or worse- ignored. While a high rating in the green means your reports are genuine and they can get on said reports quicker, knowing it's by someone with decent judgement. Akin to CS:GO hacker reports from what I've heard of that.
That sounds like such a brilliant system and I have no idea why it isn't already universally-implemented.
Maybe in the case of a cp server, instead of doing all of that unsafe stuff to report it to discord, just report it directly to the FBI, and they'll talk to discord. Just as a workaround until discord fixes their broken reporting system.
maybe also reporting to cloudflare is possibly
How do I report such things to the FBI? Especially as a Canadian woman.
@@hyliastone286 that why i recommend cloudflare as goal
I'm afraid the fbi really wouldn't care too much more, law enforcement in general is incredibly lazy and will do the bare minimum until people get on their ass
10:20 - I think that chart would be for the status of reports, Green for a successfully solved report, yellow for pending or unresolved/unreveiwed reports, and red for rejected reports. It's one of the only things I could think the bar is for if this has to do with a report system
This seems useless tbh, i would rather have the rating under the tab of the specific report. Though, it could also be a personal user rating; which could be weaponized depending on if it shows the status of YOU or towards some goal/badge.
Something there report system definitely needs and maybe like blue for its sent and gray for pending
7:33 Hey, that’s me! Thank you for sharing my tweet, I’m glad I was able to speak to the trust and safety side of things (and give you a glimmer of hope in doing so). There are a few things I’d like to address in your video as well, if I may.
Your lack of faith in tns operators to understand what you’re reporting feels *a bit* disingenuous. Let me use your own example to explain. When you report someone for abuse and inciting violence, the first thing tns is going to look at is the link in their message. It’s great that you want to tell them what it is, but they would need to look to verify anyway! This is the case with most things people add to reports, which is why I imagine they decided they don’t need additional input.
I also want to elaborate a little on the bit on what I said about Discord having a lot of info to look at that you might not realize. You bring up that you can’t tie two reports together, which might seem frustrating! However, it’s typical that someone looking at a report will be able to see things like if the user has been reported previously, how recently, what for, etc etc. A lot goes into evaluating a report, and that kind of meta info is already at the fingertips of the person reviewing. They already have more info than you do!
I’ll reiterate that I get being annoyed at change, we all resist it. And I know the system isn’t perfect. There are some things that are pretty annoying (or impossible) to report right now, and I do think Discord needs to address that (though, the feedback site isn’t part of that - that’s not on Discord, it’s its own problem). But I say with sincerity that this change is going to be good in the long run.
Discord Moderation is worse than my grades
You should have said "worser" just to show how bad your grades English grades in particular are.
@@doginthedark what
@@doginthedark Please double-check on what you said.
@@doginthedark 💀
@@doginthedark what 💀💀💀
I reported someone on two different messages, insulting and calling for an eradication of some people and nothing, even two weeks later.
That bar at the end of the video looks more like "reputation". The amount of times this account has been "reported". The more you get reported the lesser your reputation goes, and if it goes into the red zone discord might just delete the account. But its just a theory.
A DISCORD THEORY
Why's the inherent volume so low
I think I haven't heard NTTS laugh this much before. 😅
or slur? :D
@@Shark93 *swear
@@_GhostMinerthat‘s probably because he hates talking to people 😅
(source: ruclips.net/video/DZtb0MN9Ceg/видео.html, 2:18)
Its cuteee, i enjoy listening to people laugh
When trust & safety was still a thing a reported someone for being underage, keep in mind they had 11 years old in their about me. After a couple days I got an email back saying that they can't ban the underage user because HE DIDN'T SEND A MESSAGE SAYING HE WAS UNDER AGE. I'd once again like to remind you that IT WAS IN HIS ABOUT ME
Sucks because even with either of these systems, people will still exploit them and get your account deleted in fourteen days because discord has such a BAD trust and safety systems, and ignore your time specific ban appeals.
I think in the last part of the videos the colour would show how it shouldve been filtered, and you would be able to change from high to no filtration, and the colours would show based on what level of how acceptable it is to the system that is filtering the messages
thank you for bringing attention to the flaw in reporting cp servers. I've been terminated and made appeals but never got a response despite me being the one to report it.
Hey NTTS, you know this already but your efforts are immensely appreciated! And from a human to another, I hope you are taking good care of yourself. Have a nice day!
the report system on discord is genuinely shocking how can you make it that bad lmao
10:20 i think the bar represents how less major rules are broken by the reported message
Even if the old reporting system wasn’t any better than the new one, and this new one is hopefully part of a revamped, more acceptable version that’s being worked on, I do feel that Discord still dropped the ball on a lot of things here! (More like dropping half of the entire basketball court actually…) they should have kept the old version, and let the community know before any big changes like this! At least with the username change, they informed us that it was happening! And as annoying as that change may have been, at least they let us know! (I will admit, that the reaction to that change was certainly a bit overwhelming though, but with as big of a user base that Discord has, that’s kind of expected. Same with any social media platform!) Even if they *had* to remove the old reporting system, the least they could do is give us a heads up! (This is just speculation here: This kinda feels like a response to the backlash they got from the username change. Since they got so much flak for that just from the announcement, it feels that they decided that the community doesn’t deserve to be notified of changes, because either way, everyone seems to dislike them. Obviously this is 100% speculation on my part, and it could be they just have so many things going on and they just mishandled the rollout, but whether it was negligence, miscommunication, or actual pettiness, Discord should have given their users SOME official notice about this change! Why couldn’t they have just kept both report options and slowly transition users over from using the old report system, to the new one that they are developing? It’s still in very early stages anyway, so they need to have a functioning option while the new one is being tested!)
I know that this new one seems both easier, and better to an extent than the old report system, and hopefully it can still be somewhat useful for reporting icky behavior while the full version is being worked on, AND I know that we don’t know how Discord fully works, so they probably had to fully switch to the new report system even though it’s still in beta. BUT, That doesn’t make this mess any less annoying. I just hope that this new system can be refined and working ASAP! And I hope the current version is as decent as they say, and the discord trust and safety team are able to use it to better help users and deal with issues as well!
Maybe the bar is the progress of how far the investigation has gone for one of your reports
Discord already does not hesitate to ban entire communities and servers full of people, as well as the people in the server who also receive a ban for at best, debatable reasons while letting insane servers stay up. So truthfully, I don't t trust them any.
Maybe that progress bar is the progress of your current report being processed, like first "we noticed it", then "we're on it", then "ok we banned the person"
This reminds me a lot of reddit. Before I left that hole, I used to do a lot of manual reporting of bots. I had a bunch of browser tools to streamline the process, was active in unofficial bot defense communities, and had honed my technique to the point where I could usually guess bot status correctly just by the post and username. But over time, reddit's reporting situation got worse and worse. The site redesign moved reporting from a *real* message to admins, with full context, to a pre-made form where you had to choose a reason (which often didn't cover the situation properly) and also had to manually enter each username in specific slots with a cap on the number (horrible for reporting bot rings working together). Then over time they slowly stopped responding to reports, to the point where I could send proof of a botted and sold account posting crypto scams or whatever and it would stay up for months. Finally with the whole anti-third-party crusade recently I decided I was done. They can have their site, nice and overrun with spam. I hope they enjoy it.
I once tried to report a user a couple years ago for being extremely... well, shitty. After spending nearly two hours trying to find out how to report them, I finally found... something? I think it was that "message" to admins or whatever. Anyway, I tried to report them and got no response. That was the last time I ever used reddit lol.
one thing discord needs to add is the easy ability to report whole servers, because if the server is breaking TOS then I don't want to go in and report every single message
Everyone: Complaining how bad Discord Trust & Safety is
Discord: Removes it
There's a whole lot of *no* communication from Discord lately about how their platform works.
Just a few things I've actively needed to go looking for, *beyond* their blog and other socials:
- Add Friend Nickname (not even everyone I asked seems to know when this started from)
- Highlights (of my sample of several active communities, very few have even heard of this)
- Show All Channels (people can't see entire servers sometimes and don't know why)
Now reports too? Discord as a whole entity has not said jack about what changes are being made, how they're going to work, why they're being made, etc. *Any* communication at all is almost a miracle, really.
I think a combination of the two reporting systems would be more ideal... maybe?
They should make it that U can talk to an actual employee of discord.
Exactly! At the very least, they should keep the description box for reports as well as all the other tools!
I’m glad the reports are cached, so they actually are there for Discord support to see… but that seems to be only one positive thing in this whole system! The old one was too much work for your average user, and to an extent, I’m mildly glad (or at least I understand why) they replaced the old system. BUT THEY NEED TO KEEP THE DESCRIPTION OPTION AS A STANDARD FEATURE FOR THIS SYSTEM! Thankfully, this new system is still being developed so they still can add that back in! (And considering it seems they’re moving the whole reporting system into Discord itself rather than divided between two web pages, I’m guessing they may have to either recode that function from scratch to make it work in Discord, or at least heavily modify the old description box code to work in Discord, both app and desktop. I hope they do that and soon! Even if they can’t finish the whole system asap, they at least should focus on bringing the text description box into the system first and foremost! And above all, they should have at LEAST given everyone a heads up or something about!)
@@drewo.127 NTTS mentioned the League of Legends report system, which is honestly pretty great. Not only do you get to report people DURING a game now, but you can report people in the lobby after a game and give context; AND if you forgot to report them in the lobby, you can access their support page and send in a late report while also adding even more context (and sometimes, screenshots!). Also, if an account adds you and sends you a weird message, you can report THAT as well.
Too many League players whine about their reporting system being "broken" (I think it works pretty well these days, most of my reports get handled), but honestly I'd bet money that they're the ones mucking up the community anyways. (I once saw a post of someone literally admitting to using a SLUR and complaining about their account getting banned...)
You're right about Discord needing to keep a description option, as well as the fact they should've given us a warning about the changed system... The fact that Discord is *literally* worse than the infamous League of Legends Support System (gasp!!!) is astonishing.
I hate reporting messages using the report button. Some time ago, someone posted p0rn on my general channel (because the Discord automoderation filters got reset...) and instead of instantly deleting it, I had to delete it after 1 minute because I needed to click the report button, find the appropriate CATEGORY, and then submit the report...
On Twitch you can report channel points, redeems, even community challenges. You can report so much. why doesn't Discord just have an option to just right click a user, not a message, and press report, alternatively open up the big profile and also choosing report. From user based report, you can choose to report username, avatar, banner, bio, pronouns, and such. That's a step in the right direction.
The LoL instant report Feedback, feels better then winning your challenger promos
Fun fact: It's always been a thing, the report message button.
I was the first one to make a video about this but not in this much detail!, thank you so much for making this s**t public!!! ❤
A naked man fears no pickpocket.
The moment when you try to report multiple messages but can't because need to wait for bit of a time to report again.
funny enough i think giving out a badge to users for properly reporting others would boost reports tenfold
itd probably lead to a lot of false reports for people that just want the badge, and a lot of false bans because T&S cant tell when something isnt true
I don't think they want 10x the reports tho
But then they wouldn't get the badge because of not reporting adequately, so discord users will become crime hunters and go to a civil war with discord mods
@mariotheundying just make alt account, say that you are 13, and report it with your main account??
@@baconofburger8784 uh, what's that gonna do? Those would be false report, 13 is also within discord's rules and there's a chance discord knows what I do and bans my main
My Discord account got straight-up terminated because they thought I was under 13. It's actually ridiculous. I'm turning 18 soon, so I thought, "Let's appeal this nonsense." I went ahead and gave them my passport and a selfie holding a paper with my username. But guess what? They said the identification was valid but they couldn't validate it because the pic of me holding the passport wasn't in the "same image as my face + holding the paper." Like, seriously? It's so obvious that my face matches the passport. It's been a week, and they haven't bothered to reply to my appeal, even though I did it all in one photo later on, just like they asked. If they don't get back to me by tomorrow, they're gonna delete my account. Great support team discord!
It's sad when League of Legends is a better example of something that discord is doing
I had to experience discord's horrible report system on the desktop app when I was reporting someone for a steam scam.
When even NTTS breaks down at discord stupidity, its over.
It should be illegal for big companies like that to not have actual people reviewing reports, and not having a text field to give extra context. My mom's old facebook account got logged into by someone and they changed her account name to something different, changed the email, but kept all the posts on her page, all her friends, I tried to report the account, but it didn't allow me to give context when I tried to report it, and facebook was like "That account is fine", it's NOT, and if I could give context, I would! I told my mom to warn her friends on her current account to report that account and to unfriend it in case it starts sending spam messages and she did. That stolen account is still up. You used to be able to call facebook or email them, but now they don't allow either. Those account takeovers are really common on facebook, and this lack of support on these companies sites in order to cut corners to save money where necessary operational expenses should be, enables cybercrime. It's wild.
i had a friend report somone about 2 months ago for being underage and discord somehow mistook the report and banned him then ignored his appeal and about a month later his account was deleted
Reminds me of the time I reported a server run and filled with pedos, and discord did litterly nothing.
Could you try to turn up the volume when recording?
I'm at max youtube volume + system volume and I can barely hear the sound in this video...
Your league comparison is spot on
3:49 ntts don't send that to the discord server 90% of the members are gonna get banned
Cant wait for discord to add a badge for reporting and then people are going to create accounts, write something bad, report with their main and get the badge.
I swear your videos are progressively getting quieter
at first i thought it's on my end that's so quiet
2:53 this guy has finally become the top g.
always a good day when ntts posts
Discord is so absurd that i got banned for a 6 year old joke i said i was 6 they reported me and now i have to prove my ID 💀💀
Why is the volume so low
Weee! More stuff from the higher Ups to make my experience on Discord worse!! 🥳
Discord not trying to put report as a nitro feature
Don't give them ideas.
NAHH
That would cause actual legal trouble.
Such quality efforts on their end, and the expect us to actually pay for nitro in a serious manner.
Discord is destroying their platform by each day
Discord has a major transparency problem. They continue to make changed to the app without explanation. If they noticed an issue with the reporting system and this is a temporary solution, that would be great to know. But because they don't tell us why they've made changes, the users are left to assume the worst
why is the audio so quiet?
Same...
oh i thought it was just me
4:44 A while back, i saw a discord staff member in the Discord Admins Community say that you can just report any of the person's messages and they can review their profile.
You know discord messed up when ntts posts
Discord is too busy ruining their app to run the trust and safety center
the discord staff watching furry porn instead of doing their job
I remember reporting a "very bad NSFW" server in the past through trust and safety. No joke, I got FULL ON ignored. No update message, nothing.
thank you for your amazing content, NTTS
Seeing old videoes is always funny. 10:20 is clearly the good standing meter now.
ah yes, moderation.
They won’t create a badge for this, with the same reason as they “removed” the verified bot developer badge, badge goblins are going to create fake reports to try to get the badge
Speedrunning failure any %, failing so fast Steven He's jealous.
Discord Trust & Safety when they have to do their job: 😢😭
Sometimes I wonder why im on such an awful platform like discord. But I like keeping other people safe and your videos help me keep myself self aware. Moderating a 40k member server and 65k member server and discord pulling all this shit is really something. Cmon discord, help us a little... I dont want younger members (13/14) to get hacked or something cause they arent aware of such links and stuff.
I recently reported someone who was making fun and harassing someone i know irl bc they were using a picture of themselves as a pfp, i tried to talk to the admins and they were friends with the guy, and they just laughed at me and told me "Its discord dude, shut up or ill call a swat team on you". I know that a bunch of kids cant do shit but still reported everything to discord and... They told me to right click and report using that method... Still no punishment has been made.
the quietest video on planet earth god damn
It’s not
Now I can with that one dude that said that Discord is speedrunning the "ruining my company" or something in one of your videos.
Very good fun fact (probably bad): Discord has access to every message you ever sent on the tip of their fingers, they save EVERY message sent on the platform, and they can use it against you later, so remember when you said you're 12 3 years ago? yeah they have that and can ban you for it.
ive been an avid watcher of your channel for a year, and im finally 18; being 18 sucks. thats all i have to say
The report functions on apps works like a criminal getting away because somebody had to file a complaint form to a robot officer cop that takes really slow and lets the hacker criminal get away with crimes
Really taking after roblox with this one
that badge would make the reporters targets to get trusted accounts
the reporters would be smarter than usual discord users, but still discord users
10:27
No Mr. Text to Speech, that bar is going to turn into a Discord Credit Score. Prepare to have your credit score tank because someone led a mass report campaign against you
Next they will ban you from discord for reporting someone on discord
I cranked up the volume for this video, only to go play minecraft afterwards and have a creeper blow up my base and my speakers. Thanks!
5:49 this is why, no matter how bad something is, I never report it. I do not want to risk getting a server I am in banned, taking me with it, just because one person sent tos violating content. If it is club penguin content tho i normally report it to ncmec
i like the kiss that im always guaranteed to get at the end. makes me feel a little more loved each time.