If i'm being honest lemmy is the only dude I listen to anymore for recommendations. New to riding and he's very straight forward, fun to watch and very informative. Thanks Lemmy and revzilla!
@@Wheel-1 Maybe I should have said quality over price. My point wasn't just buy the most expensive. An accident due to a cheap/crap tire is more expensive in the long run was my point.
Here Is A Sportster Tip .... when your out on the road, wondering if your tires need to be changed; reach in your pocket, and grab a quarter, ( or get a quarter, or borrow a quarter ) then, you insert the edge of the quarter into the tread where it is low ... line up the two Ls, in "quarter doLLar" if you can see the bottoms of the Ls, it is time to change your tire.
That was a sad excuse of a mention on the 777. The Shinko 777 is my favorite tire. I'm riding the piss out of a set on my FXR. They are comfortable, sticky and wear well. I ride on them like an absolute fool and they never let me down.
Lemmy I fell on this video by accident as I have a full on sports bike but you are as consistent and helpful as EVER. Bless you mate from GREAT BRITAIN:) May I tell you the michelin road pilot 3/4 Is fantastic mate:)
Thanks for video here is bottom line if you are on a Heavy Cruiser Touring bike you put lot of miles on we are being ripped off by MC. Accompanies high price low mileage that has to be an answer
I just installed the 777's on a vstar 950 - holy shit ! What a huge improvement over the stock Dunlaps ! Ride quality / cornering & absorption of bumps ( michigan we have terrible roads ) - highly recommend the 777. Been riding road bikes since the mid 80's had several different tires over the years. Speaking from experience.
Commander 2's lasted me 18,000 miles in 2yrs definitely worth getting. I'm due for a new back tire but the front one is still like new. I have a 01 Harley Softail.
@@RudeAntBankz has your rear flattened off at all? my commander 2 has worn more on the sides than the center and it looks like it humps in the center with only 6000 mi now on my 09 nighttrain
I have a victory hammer. It comes with e4s. I changed the back to a cruisetec which is so much better. Should I change the front to a cruisetec or mix match and put a dragon on it to give more grip and same mileage replacement?
Damn you getting paid good for this one dunlop's are good for going to walmart or the mailbox but for longevity or training they dont last hell the shinko 777 out lasted the dunflops and were bought and installed at the same time.
Amongst Metzeller ME888 Marathon and Bridgestone H50 Battlecruise. what would you recommend for a fully loaded roadking (Tourpak, failing lowers, etc). Focus is more on grip with reasonable mileage. Unfortunately, Commander 2 is not an option for my geography (India) else it would have been a no brainer.
Hey ! love the vids for tips and help.. question for ya.. i got a 2009 C50 Boulevard, i tried the standard Rear Dunlop that came with it.. good tire for sticking and cornering, and rode well for wet weather, but didn't like the wear life it gave me.. burned through it fast i thought 1 season &k kms!.. my question is" how is the Micheline Commander 2 for wet driving and handling, and sticking to pavement, for my C50. I just put a new front Dunlop last season does it really matter that my front wont be same brand?" Will get the same front brand when i need to change it. thanks for any help ya can give me. Bear from Pontiac,Pq,Can.
The Iron 883 uses a 100/90-19 front and 150/80B16 rear tire. I believe the Iron is coming with Michelin Scorchers as stock, and those are actually pretty good. Some of the tires in this video would work for you as well. For even more grip (but with shorter tire life), consider the Pirelli Night Dragons. If you're putting big miles on that Iron, though, consider the Michelin Commander IIs. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-front-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-rear-tires *www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-front-tires *www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-rear-tires
Michelin Commanders have been the best tires ive ever owned. Metzler #2. my 2 cents worth is based on having bought Conti's, Perelli, Dunlop (just terrible), Metzlers and MCs.
If they're available in sizes to fit your bike, then you should be fine to use them. Also, yes, they're available in both wide white wall (WWW) and narrow white stripe (NWS). -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dunlop-american-elite-tires
I have a Triumph America and getting confusing info from Bike Shops. What do you think would be my best tyre not worring about cost. Just want something that sticks to the road well that gives a smooth ride and won't flat spot in the middle to quickly with reasonable mileage capability. size tyres I have on now are front 110/80-18 16B and Rear 170/80-B15 77H . Thank you
Tires available in Sri Lanka are different than the tires available here in the United States, so we cannot provide an accurate recommendation. Try to find a quality tire from a major manufacturer like Pirelli, Metzeler, Michelin, or Bridgestone. Even IRC and Kenda would be acceptable brands. -DrewZilla
This video is exactly the same as the information on Motorcyclegear101 word for word even when describing the Pirelli Night Dragon as dweeby. I respected these guys but when you see tires being pushed on multiple sites and everyone uses the same verbage you realize they may not be telling you the truth because everything they say has been spoon fed by the manufacturer. You make me sick.
Checking the forks, neck, axle, and rim, before you get your next tire. That what I would suggest. Because something there, is off kilter, if your front tire, wears out, before your drive tire. That us, assuming, your tires are a matched set, of course, because otherwise, you have a mileage based rear, and a sticky front. That's the only way something wouldn't be off, and you'd get that result.
Thanks for actually mentioning the Shinko tires, even if briefly. The 777 sticks like glue and is available in black and white wall, standard and HD (heavy duty, extra plies), and even some sizes in a REFLECTIVE sidewall now!
One of the few I found that will have sizes I can pair up on my VTX 1800 and my wife's VT 1100, every other season, and not break the bank. So they wear a bit faster. That just means they grip better, which is safer.
Shinkos are on all my Harley's and I'm far far from broke ...just because you wanna save some money while buying a tire that outlast the name brands doesn't mean you are a bum DAMN...
Been running shinko 777s on my 16 RG which is a built darkhorse. The 777 is imo the Avon of the 90s but cheaper. It grips like a dragon but cost like a Kendra lol. I've got almost 70k on my bike and over 50k has been on shinkos.
I been using Dunlap on my Harley's since 92. Now I am retired and money is short so I bought a set of Shinko tires for my 98 FLSTF. I wasn't worried until I took them to Harley to be mounted and they came just d short of refusing to do it. Now I am worried. I have a set of Shinko tires in my shop for my 72 FLH I may wait to see how these do on my 98 before mounting them on the 72. i don't ride far or fast these days and my wife don't ride with me anymore. I use to do my own mounting but i am getting too old to roll around on the floor with tires these days.
What's a good choice of tire for a iron 883? I'm a new rider and I'm super paranoid about lack of grip that would cause me to wreck. I'm not gonna be riding like crazy just cruising. Also the roads were I live are not the best paved road, lots of potholes, cracks etc.. any advice would greatly be appreciated.
i have an 883 and i thrash it pretty hard, even in the corners. ive never had any issues with the stock dunlops so probably any name brand tire of equal or greater value will be fine
I can handle lower mileage tires, what I always need most is the safety of sure grip in unexpected rain, gravel scatter, leaves, and traffic "paint" that is actually melted plastic. If that's the ME888, then I'm thankful for the tip. I'd rather replace shoes more often than replace my bike from a lay down.
ME888 give worse grip than ME880 and the Commander II. If you want sticky, try an Avon Cobra, 777 Heavy Duty version, etc. Commander II is the best overall and still has good grip.
@@VndNvwYvvSvv I loved the ME880 tires that were stock on a Triumph that I had. I tried the ME888 when they came out and nearly laid it over a few times. Total garbage.
777s are a great option in that case. I run them on my VTX 1800, and more importantly, on my WIFE'S VT 1100. And I value her far more than the bikes, including ones passed down through the family, that we own. Three of which were mom's, and she passed in 2003, so they can't be replaced.
My V-Rod came with Night Dragons although I'm due to put Michelin Commanders on because I ride long distance, you will definitely love the grip they have to offer... The mileage however sucks really bad.
For my riding style Pirelli Night Dragon is probably the best. Optimal grip and handling. I predict 15-20,000 kms from the front, about half of that from the rear. This will vary how often you check pressures (36Psi front, 40Psi rear), how hard you ride and road surface. Talked to some people who's got a lot more distance of the tyres, but they ride in a very laid back way. Give it a go!
Lemmy. Thanks for the video. I have a 2003 Honda VTX 1800. I had Metzelers on there but did ride much in the last 8 years. Less than 1,000 miles on the set of tires. They dry rotted. I need to replace them. I'd like sticky, great wet weather, tires. I'd also like to put a 200 on the back instead of the stock 180 size. What do you recommend? Thanks "Mrinternational"
#TeamZilla - Thanks for this video! I went with the Commander IIs on my Low Rider S based on input from #TeamZilla on your blog, they are a good improvement over the stock Scorcher tires the bike came with, but... Us lunatics on hot rodded Dyna's need Night Dragon performance on a Commander II mileage capable tire, hopefully the tire manufactures are listening.
I'm sure they are, but right now, we as riders have a choice. More longevity, with less grip, more grip but faster.wear, or something in the middle. Until tiee compounds improve further, that's where we.are stuck. And I'd much rather repllace.a tire every.7,000.miles, than have.to replace a bike, at 5,000 miles, due to wrecking, because I wanted to not have to replace that tire, a little sooner.
@2 WheelsForever Which you want, if you are a.more aggressive rider. That west means it has the most grip it can have, which helps to keep you from laying it down, if you are hooning. If you ride more sedatetly, a tire with longer wear life, is a better option.
I've been running pirelli not dragons and they have done well. I have to say the metzler's must be the slickest tire I've ever run especially with a drive shaft, they will spin out from under you the compound so hard. Metzler's May last a while but they won't stick to nothing.
I was curious about night dragons unfortunately they don't come in the sizes I need. I own a Honda Shadow 750c, 120/90 17 (front) and 160/80 15 (rear). Currently I have a Bridgestone Exedra Max as my rear tires but find it a bit slippery, specially in road paints. What would be your suggestions for a good grip tire? Thanks
Wish I would have found this video before I ordered Metzeler tires for my Cruiser. I waited 4 months for a front tire and it never came in, I have an oddball front tire thanks Honda, so in frustration of that I ordered Commander2 got both tires in 48 hrs. I would have went straight to Michelin had I seen this video and been riding instead of waiting on tires. Good info. Thanks for the video.
😎 I've been running the pirelli night dragons on my Wide Glide the last two sets and got 12 to 15,000 miles out of each set the front tends to dip out on the sides a little as it ages but other than that they're great
Just got my 3rd set of Michelin scorchers 😎Stock tires with great grip on rainy days I avg about 20k miles per set.Def feel all the bumps but ill take that any day with a tire that gives me about 20k miles
You are the only one in the world that thinks Scorchers are good... perhaps you should try the second gear and ride faster than 5mph to realize they sux.
I just put a set of Bridgestone tires on my 2000 Yamaha Road Star. Haven't put many miles on yet but it doesn't feel like I'm "one with the road". The installer put 36 psi in the front and 40 in the rear. I'm going to reduce those a little and see how it feels.
had the Avon Cobras stock on my Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster. they wore down and started losing the grip around the 25k kilometer mark. I had the Avon Cobra Chromes slapped on. I've had them for 3 days now and they are just as good as the stock Cobras and sticker along the sides. just my 2 cents worth!
I had a set on my VTX 1800, when dad passed it down to me. Grip was great for about 6,000 miles, then it got to the harder compound. Swapped over to the Shinkos, at that point, but Inha e the Cobra Chromes on.my Wife's PC 800. Great grip at the 3,000 mile mark, and it rides nice on them. Will update at 8,000.
Due to the wide 240mm rear tire and specific 21 inch front, there are only a few options. The Michelin Scorcher 11 Tires have good grip and decent tire life. The Bridgestone H50 are more balanced between grip and tire life. The Dunlop American Elite and Metzeler ME888 are focused even more on tire life. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-scorcher-11-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bridgestone-battlecruise-h50-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dunlop-american-elite-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-me888-marathon-ultra-tires
@justindunn2987 Well with any bike, you've got to take you time, but they suited me fine. Plenty of hungover mornings on a wet highway riding home no issues
Not sure what the best is but I know the Dunlop d404 rear tire is GARBAGE! I'll be lucky to get over 5,000 miles. Spend the extra couple bucks and get something that will last.
For tire life, go for the Michelin Commander IIs. For all-out performance, consider the Pirelli Night Dragons. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-night-dragon-tires
Fitted Metzeler ME888 Ultra 180 Rear 4000 miles ago & the 150 Front 2500 miles ago for my F6CT and I am disgusted with both of them. German made tyres! The bike has had the forks serviced and new 440 Progressive shock fitted 18,000 miles ago. The rear tyre has high feathering and cupping and the front has feathering and cupping already, Another problem was the fact that I couldn't balance the front tire after three attempts. That along with the fact that they have to be the noisiest tyres from "new" that I have ever had the displeasure to endure. I thought I had bearings gone (newbies fitted with the tires) and it was upon checking them that to my horror I saw the state of the tires. I got onto Metzeler last October and they wanted me to send the front tire back and for me to wait 6 weeks for a replacement "IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE FAULTY" "BY THEM"! That wasn't possible (fabulous weather after months of rain) nor was it possible in winter (long story). I am driving bikes for 45 years and have had all sorts of tyres on and although I have seen feathering and cupping it wasn't until reaching near end of life. This is the first time I fitted Metzeler because I heard they were a long wearing tyre but the reviews must have been posted by the company themselves. My tyres speak for them selves!! I would go back to any of my previous choices (8,000 miles +) BUT I WILL NEVER BUY Metzeler AGAIN. I am dumbfounded that a German company could manufacture such rubbish. I am absolutely disgusted with these junk tyres and the headache they have caused. PURE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A review of the same tires basically that have been out there for years is of little current value. There are lots of new tires available. How do they stack up? Not everybody wants to put a 250 dollar tire on when there are options at 2/3's the price. Are they any good?
You don’t have to have a beard to wrench, and you definitely don’t have to be a man either! For some background, here’s Lemmy’s account of the history of the BSD: _“I love telling the story of it. I was sitting around the airport with some colleagues - among them were two of the co-founders of RevZilla. We were trying to come up with some way of quantifying how difficult something was, so I suggested how many BEERS it takes to get through a job. I was misheard, and it became BEARDS, which was funny because Mike C., one of our H-D geniuses, was present, and he has a wizard-esque beard. He laughed and liked it, and believe it or not, the outline of the guy you see in the graphic is actually the outline of Mike's head!”_ Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
Measuring a job by the number of "beers" is very common in shade-tree garages. I figured it was a related system, except I don't know that any "beer" scale goes from 0 to 3. Most seem to be 5 to moonshine, or 10 to cutting torch. lol or maybe that's just me.
Any comments on the Dunlop D404 re: overall mileage and performance in the wet? I hear they're not particularly good on heavier bikes but I ride an 865cc Triumph Speedmaster.
They work pretty well in the rain and have pretty good overall mileage, and the Speedmaster is light enough for them, so they could be a good choice. -DrewZilla
Remember you can't diss the 404 on a Harley Davidson it is not designed for the Harley Davidson heavier cruisers. I installed 404's on my BMW R1200 CL and by R1200 C. They have been excellent on both bikes. Averaging 15,000 miles even before I considered replacing them. They give good wet road traction and will perform quite nicely all around.. They are a lot of Bang for the buck! Just order the right Dunlop 'Series' for your particular bike. Ride safe....
If i'm being honest lemmy is the only dude I listen to anymore for recommendations. New to riding and he's very straight forward, fun to watch and very informative. Thanks Lemmy and revzilla!
grip over milage every time, keeps you shiny side up
Cheaper to buy an expensive sticky tire than a cheap ass tire and paying to fix your bike after it lost traction ;)
@@KrisHarrisnNeti exactly that
@@KrisHarrisnNeti Expensive doesn't always mean better .
@@Wheel-1 Maybe I should have said quality over price. My point wasn't just buy the most expensive. An accident due to a cheap/crap tire is more expensive in the long run was my point.
Agreed
Here Is A Sportster Tip .... when your out on the road, wondering if your tires need to be changed; reach in your pocket, and grab a quarter, ( or get a quarter, or borrow a quarter )
then, you insert the edge of the quarter into the tread where it is low ... line up the two Ls, in "quarter doLLar" if you can see the bottoms of the Ls, it is time to change your tire.
The Commander II is no joke. I've got close to 11K on my Dyna Wide Glide and it's just now starting to see a very small flat spot on the rear.
TJ yea, they are great tires.
🙂
You mentioned what longevity of the Commander tire has but never mentioned the performance.
The performance of the commander tire is an amazing tire
Wet weather performance ?
best mc tire on market
Shinko is suprising good
That was a sad excuse of a mention on the 777. The Shinko 777 is my favorite tire. I'm riding the piss out of a set on my FXR. They are comfortable, sticky and wear well. I ride on them like an absolute fool and they never let me down.
Vegan Driver Shinko 777 the finest tire for a cruiser I ever ride so far. Grippy and longevity.
Lmao. Those are the shittiest tires in the world. Dont be a cheapskate
@@dynapatrick894 Why? You didnt really make any good points as to why their crappy.
@@ProChaos514 put em on your bike and see 😂
@@dynapatrick894 I do, and i freaking love them. There not long distance tires, their ripping around town tires, aka point A to B fast tires lol
Lemmy I fell on this video by accident as I have a full on sports bike but you are as consistent and helpful as EVER.
Bless you mate from GREAT BRITAIN:)
May I tell you the michelin road pilot 3/4 Is fantastic mate:)
Thanks for video here is bottom line if you are on a Heavy Cruiser Touring bike you put lot of miles on we are being ripped off by MC. Accompanies high price low mileage that has to be an answer
I just installed the 777's on a vstar 950 - holy shit ! What a huge improvement over the stock Dunlaps ! Ride quality / cornering & absorption of bumps ( michigan we have terrible roads ) - highly recommend the 777. Been riding road bikes since the mid 80's had several different tires over the years. Speaking from experience.
I got 15k on my stock OEM dunlop on my road king probably could of went longer. They handled great in curves and rain.
I have a 99 RKC are you talking about the front or back tire or both? Thanks, Hawk.
I ride a 1800cc power cruiser with 18 inch rims. Avon's all day.
I got a 1900 and im running the avon and love them
Michelin Commanders #1. Metzler #2.
i HAVE A 09 FATBOB WITH COMMANDER ll WITH 23000 KMS. STILL 2 32s LEFT REPLACING WITH BRIDGESTONE BATTLE CRUISE TIRES NEXT YEAR
Michelin in the wet are too slippery. I love. Metzler.That's all I buy.
I got about 6000 miles on my rear tire. What have you got on yours? Metzler.
Exactly what I was looking for!
Commander ll all day every day!! I might throw a night dragon on the front of my dyna for a little more grip
bikeboy0012 how gripy is it compared to a shinko 777?
@@jaysmith722 a lot
No way anyone is getting 25K on the Commander IIs on a big touring bike. If they are super easy on them, they get around 10K miles on a rear tire.
many chanels have one suggestion in common and it the Commander 2 so i guess i got my tires
Commander 2's lasted me 18,000 miles in 2yrs definitely worth getting. I'm due for a new back tire but the front one is still like new. I have a 01 Harley Softail.
@@RudeAntBankz has your rear flattened off at all? my commander 2 has worn more on the sides than the center and it looks like it humps in the center with only 6000 mi now on my 09 nighttrain
@@chrismurphy5564 I've put on only around 2k miles on my 2nd commander 2 back tire. It seems to be holding up well so far.
The elite 4 gets the mileage but sidewall cracks within 20 months on mine
I have a victory hammer. It comes with e4s. I changed the back to a cruisetec which is so much better. Should I change the front to a cruisetec or mix match and put a dragon on it to give more grip and same mileage replacement?
Shinkos are not bad tires
Damn you getting paid good for this one dunlop's are good for going to walmart or the mailbox but for longevity or training they dont last hell the shinko 777 out lasted the dunflops and were bought and installed at the same time.
Amongst Metzeller ME888 Marathon and Bridgestone H50 Battlecruise. what would you recommend for a fully loaded roadking (Tourpak, failing lowers, etc). Focus is more on grip with reasonable mileage. Unfortunately, Commander 2 is not an option for my geography (India) else it would have been a no brainer.
What Tires would you recommend for a 26" front, and stock rear??
damn good looking helmet revzilla sent me fells good all around
I have a 2021 Yamaha Bolt R Spec, front 100/90-19 & Rear 150/80-16
I want whitewalls but with good grip!
Please help
"treat your motorcycle like a rental" damn son, it's even scary to think of treating the bike like that!
Hey ! love the vids for tips and help..
question for ya.. i got a 2009 C50 Boulevard, i tried the standard Rear Dunlop that came with it.. good tire for sticking and cornering, and rode well for wet weather, but didn't like the wear life it gave me.. burned through it fast i thought 1 season &k kms!.. my question is" how is the Micheline Commander 2 for wet driving and handling, and sticking to pavement, for my C50.
I just put a new front Dunlop last season does it really matter that my front wont be same brand?" Will get the same front brand when i need to change it.
thanks for any help ya can give me.
Bear from Pontiac,Pq,Can.
Any recommendations for tyres that would have a better chance of slowing me down in wet weather and reduce the likelihood of loosing control
For a cruiser tire with really good wet grip, look at the Metzeler Cruistec Tires. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-cruisetec-tires
Metzler 880 marathons are my favorite touring tire
Can't get them anymore...
Trying the 888's
What tires, and tire size would you recommend for a 2017 Iron 883?
The Iron 883 uses a 100/90-19 front and 150/80B16 rear tire. I believe the Iron is coming with Michelin Scorchers as stock, and those are actually pretty good. Some of the tires in this video would work for you as well. For even more grip (but with shorter tire life), consider the Pirelli Night Dragons. If you're putting big miles on that Iron, though, consider the Michelin Commander IIs. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-front-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-rear-tires
*www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-front-tires
*www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-rear-tires
Brody rear tire
Lenny what's the widest tire you can put on a Harleydavidson 2020 Slim 16" stock rim .
280
2004 VTX 1300s . Been looking at 777's but heard comments about speed wobble. Any thoughts?
Michelin Commanders have been the best tires ive ever owned. Metzler #2.
my 2 cents worth is based on having bought Conti's, Perelli, Dunlop (just terrible), Metzlers and MCs.
I own a Yamaha Road Star cruiser. What's your opinion on installing Dunlop American Elites? And does the Dunlop AE come in a white wall?
If they're available in sizes to fit your bike, then you should be fine to use them. Also, yes, they're available in both wide white wall (WWW) and narrow white stripe (NWS). -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dunlop-american-elite-tires
I have a Triumph America and getting confusing info from Bike Shops. What do you think would be my best tyre not worring about cost. Just want something that sticks to the road well that gives a smooth ride and won't flat spot in the middle to quickly with reasonable mileage capability. size tyres I have on now are front 110/80-18 16B and Rear 170/80-B15 77H . Thank you
Michelin Commander IIs are a really good option. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-tires
Hi. What's the better choice for my 2017" moto Guzzi Eldorado?
I recommend the Metzeler ME888, since they're available in both standard black walls as well as white walls. -DrewZilla
*bit.ly/BestCruiser_ME888
I'm looking for a 3 season tire cause I want to ride from 40F to 100F. What would be a good tire including rain?
It really depends on your specific bike and its tire sizes. What year/make/model of bike do you have? -DrewZilla
Fine I get it the Night Dragon is a tire for me and I should probably stop riding my Fatboy like it's an GSXR #nevergonnahappen
GN 125 suzuki what is your recomandetion for rear tyre in srilanka
Tires available in Sri Lanka are different than the tires available here in the United States, so we cannot provide an accurate recommendation. Try to find a quality tire from a major manufacturer like Pirelli, Metzeler, Michelin, or Bridgestone. Even IRC and Kenda would be acceptable brands. -DrewZilla
i need the tyre size @@RevZilla
I thought I was about to see the tire version of man v food
The metzeler 888 is supposed to be a excellent choice
Metzeler marathon 888 ultra👍
Good tire IF you don’t ride aggressive and are just focused on how much milage to get but the commander still beats it out 👍
Aquaman
The commander is about the worst tire for wet roads just FYI.
Lol no it's not
@Trying tolearn so you're saying traveling down the highway at 55 in 6th gear on a road glide is normal to break the back tire loose on???
Commander 11 average grip in the dry, in the wet they are nothing but a joke
This video is exactly the same as the information on Motorcyclegear101 word for word even when describing the Pirelli Night Dragon as dweeby. I respected these guys but when you see tires being pushed on multiple sites and everyone uses the same verbage you realize they may not be telling you the truth because everything they say has been spoon fed by the manufacturer. You make me sick.
Jump right off the gate with the insults on the Shinko, classy.
Close your eyes...It's Kermit The Frog...seriously...
Nailed it on the Pirelli Night Dragons. If you crash, it ain't cause of lack of grip. Mileage, about 8500 on the rear, 10 to 12k be on the front
What would you recommend for a 07 Softail ?? I can't get good mileage out of any front tire, real good on real tire..
Checking the forks, neck, axle, and rim, before you get your next tire. That what I would suggest. Because something there, is off kilter, if your front tire, wears out, before your drive tire.
That us, assuming, your tires are a matched set, of course, because otherwise, you have a mileage based rear, and a sticky front. That's the only way something wouldn't be off, and you'd get that result.
Thanks for actually mentioning the Shinko tires, even if briefly. The 777 sticks like glue and is available in black and white wall, standard and HD (heavy duty, extra plies), and even some sizes in a REFLECTIVE sidewall now!
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One of the few I found that will have sizes I can pair up on my VTX 1800 and my wife's VT 1100, every other season, and not break the bank. So they wear a bit faster. That just means they grip better, which is safer.
Love Shinko 777 whitewalls on my Vulcan 1500.
Since the Shinko is cheap, you get to pay all that labor for a rear tire swap more frequently. Ask me how I know...
How does it do in the wet?
Shinkos are on all my Harley's and I'm far far from broke ...just because you wanna save some money while buying a tire that outlast the name brands doesn't mean you are a bum DAMN...
Been running shinko 777s on my 16 RG which is a built darkhorse. The 777 is imo the Avon of the 90s but cheaper. It grips like a dragon but cost like a Kendra lol. I've got almost 70k on my bike and over 50k has been on shinkos.
I been using Dunlap on my Harley's since 92. Now I am retired and money is short so I bought a set of Shinko tires for my 98 FLSTF. I wasn't worried until I took them to Harley to be mounted and they came just d short of refusing to do it. Now I am worried. I have a set of Shinko tires in my shop for my 72 FLH I may wait to see how these do on my 98 before mounting them on the 72. i don't ride far or fast these days and my wife don't ride with me anymore. I use to do my own mounting but i am getting too old to roll around on the floor with tires these days.
"Enter the night dragon." Really? Really bruh???
What's a good choice of tire for a iron 883? I'm a new rider and I'm super paranoid about lack of grip that would cause me to wreck. I'm not gonna be riding like crazy just cruising. Also the roads were I live are not the best paved road, lots of potholes, cracks etc.. any advice would greatly be appreciated.
i have an 883 and i thrash it pretty hard, even in the corners. ive never had any issues with the stock dunlops so probably any name brand tire of equal or greater value will be fine
@@stufoo thanks for the info I really appreciate it. You rock bro 🤙
avon cobras all day
I can handle lower mileage tires, what I always need most is the safety of sure grip in unexpected rain, gravel scatter, leaves, and traffic "paint" that is actually melted plastic. If that's the ME888, then I'm thankful for the tip. I'd rather replace shoes more often than replace my bike from a lay down.
ME888 give worse grip than ME880 and the Commander II. If you want sticky, try an Avon Cobra, 777 Heavy Duty version, etc. Commander II is the best overall and still has good grip.
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I loved the ME880 tires that were stock on a Triumph that I had. I tried the ME888 when they came out and nearly laid it over a few times. Total garbage.
Similar experience, had fresh me888 on my forty eight and now my roadking special. Slips like mad on wet roads. Avoid at all cost.
777s are a great option in that case. I run them on my VTX 1800, and more importantly, on my WIFE'S VT 1100.
And I value her far more than the bikes, including ones passed down through the family, that we own. Three of which were mom's, and she passed in 2003, so they can't be replaced.
My experience so far for rear tyres:
Dunlop 404 5k (average grip)
Pirelli Route 66: 8k (least grip)
Avon Cobra 8k (excellent grip)
Shinko 777 4k (excellent grip)
Pirelli Night Dragon TBA..
My V-Rod came with Night Dragons although I'm due to put Michelin Commanders on because I ride long distance, you will definitely love the grip they have to offer... The mileage however sucks really bad.
Are those the miles you got out of them?
Any update on the Pirelli Night Dragons?
For my riding style Pirelli Night Dragon is probably the best. Optimal grip and handling. I predict 15-20,000 kms from the front, about half of that from the rear. This will vary how often you check pressures (36Psi front, 40Psi rear), how hard you ride and road surface. Talked to some people who's got a lot more distance of the tyres, but they ride in a very laid back way. Give it a go!
Howdy! Thisizlemmywithrevzilla here to talk to you today...
Lemmy. Thanks for the video. I have a 2003 Honda VTX 1800. I had Metzelers on there but did ride much in the last 8 years. Less than 1,000 miles on the set of tires. They dry rotted. I need to replace them. I'd like sticky, great wet weather, tires. I'd also like to put a 200 on the back instead of the stock 180 size. What do you recommend? Thanks "Mrinternational"
#TeamZilla - Thanks for this video! I went with the Commander IIs on my Low Rider S based on input from #TeamZilla on your blog, they are a good improvement over the stock Scorcher tires the bike came with, but...
Us lunatics on hot rodded Dyna's need Night Dragon performance on a Commander II mileage capable tire, hopefully the tire manufactures are listening.
you made the right call. everytime i try something else bc of cost, i kick myself
I'm sure they are, but right now, we as riders have a choice. More longevity, with less grip, more grip but faster.wear, or something in the middle. Until tiee compounds improve further, that's where we.are stuck.
And I'd much rather repllace.a tire every.7,000.miles, than have.to replace a bike, at 5,000 miles, due to wrecking, because I wanted to not have to replace that tire, a little sooner.
cheaper with more grip always a win in my book.
Love my Night Dragons ^^
@2 WheelsForever Which you want, if you are a.more aggressive rider. That west means it has the most grip it can have, which helps to keep you from laying it down, if you are hooning. If you ride more sedatetly, a tire with longer wear life, is a better option.
i only got 3500mi out of a set before they were cupped and smooth!
I will never listen to someone with a nose ring.
Great video Lemmy! 🤘🏻☠️🤘🏻 thank you, brother!
I've been running pirelli not dragons and they have done well. I have to say the metzler's must be the slickest tire I've ever run especially with a drive shaft, they will spin out from under you the compound so hard. Metzler's May last a while but they won't stick to nothing.
I agree. I bought a 2016 Roadmaster and that is what I am taking off. Trying to figure out which tire to get.
Shinko has the most white wall options, end of story.
elete 4 is not the tire that Elite3 was 2_3 k less for me 13 vs 15 for #3
secretly wheelie at background
I was curious about night dragons unfortunately they don't come in the sizes I need. I own a Honda Shadow 750c, 120/90 17 (front) and 160/80 15 (rear). Currently I have a Bridgestone Exedra Max as my rear tires but find it a bit slippery, specially in road paints.
What would be your suggestions for a good grip tire?
Thanks
now in 2021, what would you recommend for a 2014 iron 883?
Wish I would have found this video before I ordered Metzeler tires for my Cruiser. I waited 4 months for a front tire and it never came in, I have an oddball front tire thanks Honda, so in frustration of that I ordered Commander2 got both tires in 48 hrs. I would have went straight to Michelin had I seen this video and been riding instead of waiting on tires. Good info. Thanks for the video.
😎 I've been running the pirelli night dragons on my Wide Glide the last two sets and got 12 to 15,000 miles out of each set the front tends to dip out on the sides a little as it ages but other than that they're great
Just got my 3rd set of Michelin scorchers 😎Stock tires with great grip on rainy days I avg about 20k miles per set.Def feel all the bumps but ill take that any day with a tire that gives me about 20k miles
El Mas Chingon those tires are known for having terrible grip, especially in the wet. I have one in the front and can’t wait to ditch it
You are the only one in the world that thinks Scorchers are good... perhaps you should try the second gear and ride faster than 5mph to realize they sux.
I just put a set of Bridgestone tires on my 2000 Yamaha Road Star. Haven't put many miles on yet but it doesn't feel like I'm "one with the road". The installer put 36 psi in the front and 40 in the rear. I'm going to reduce those a little and see how it feels.
How zooted is this geezer? Please don't tryn tell me he's not blazed af. Lemmy? More like Stemmy!
what are the best tires for someone who is a beginner? what has the strongest middle rubber as I find myself not cornering too hard often.
You forgot shinko 777s are for wheelies
because, eleventy gagillion!
I like dunlop or metzeler
Sir,I got a Shinko tire on my Deuce,it only holds air for a day or two,valve stems are good,any advice?Have you heard anything about the Shinko tire?
Spray soapy water all over it and see where it bubbles at
Dunlop or metzler for me
Hey man, why dont you have any tire specs on your website? Nothing about diameter, tread width etc. Sometimes we need that info!
I'll make that suggestion to the team, but we don't always have that information readily available to us. -DrewZilla
had the Avon Cobras stock on my Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster. they wore down and started losing the grip around the 25k kilometer mark. I had the Avon Cobra Chromes slapped on. I've had them for 3 days now and they are just as good as the stock Cobras and sticker along the sides. just my 2 cents worth!
I had a set on my VTX 1800, when dad passed it down to me. Grip was great for about 6,000 miles, then it got to the harder compound. Swapped over to the Shinkos, at that point, but Inha e the Cobra Chromes on.my Wife's PC 800. Great grip at the 3,000 mile mark, and it rides nice on them. Will update at 8,000.
What would you recommend for a 2015 Honda Shadow Phantom?
Get the Shinko’s you won’t have a problem.
What would you recommend for a 2018 Harley Breakout? 🤔
Due to the wide 240mm rear tire and specific 21 inch front, there are only a few options. The Michelin Scorcher 11 Tires have good grip and decent tire life. The Bridgestone H50 are more balanced between grip and tire life. The Dunlop American Elite and Metzeler ME888 are focused even more on tire life. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-scorcher-11-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bridgestone-battlecruise-h50-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dunlop-american-elite-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-me888-marathon-ultra-tires
Ive got a set of 888's metzlers on my 1250 harley, and i love to power on it, very happy with the performance of the tire and the longevity.
How’s does it do in casual wet roads or mild rain? Planning on putting this on my rear (street glide special)
You’ve got a Vrod or a revmax? I ask because I wanted some night dragons for my Vrod but can’t find a front wheel for it
@justindunn2987 Well with any bike, you've got to take you time, but they suited me fine. Plenty of hungover mornings on a wet highway riding home no issues
@Charger73_504 No its a 93 sportster, with 1250 Buell heads on it.
Not sure what the best is but I know the Dunlop d404 rear tire is GARBAGE! I'll be lucky to get over 5,000 miles. Spend the extra couple bucks and get something that will last.
Tyler Ford I know the feeling I had d404 on my Honda magna 5k was about the max. I changed the front every 2 seasons and the rear every seasons
Tyler Ford, I second that, only got 3800 miles of of it on my Vulcan 900 classic
Do any of you use the Michelin Commander II on your road glide?
We sell a ton of Commander IIs to Road Glide riders, but some prefer the Dunlops or Metzelers. -DrewZilla
on my Ultra Limited. Commanders are best tires ive ever owned and were recommended by my shop
so what would be the recommended tire for a Night Rod Special?
For tire life, go for the Michelin Commander IIs. For all-out performance, consider the Pirelli Night Dragons. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-commander-ii-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-night-dragon-tires
I’ve had the Scorcher tires (stock) and liked them and the night dragons were great but wore out twice as fast. I liked both for grip though.
Fitted Metzeler ME888 Ultra 180 Rear 4000 miles ago & the 150 Front 2500 miles ago for my F6CT and I am disgusted with both of them. German made tyres! The bike has had the forks serviced and new 440 Progressive shock fitted 18,000 miles ago. The rear tyre has high feathering and cupping and the front has feathering and cupping already, Another problem was the fact that I couldn't balance the front tire after three attempts. That along with the fact that they have to be the noisiest tyres from "new" that I have ever had the displeasure to endure. I thought I had bearings gone (newbies fitted with the tires) and it was upon checking them that to my horror I saw the state of the tires. I got onto Metzeler last October and they wanted me to send the front tire back and for me to wait 6 weeks for a replacement "IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE FAULTY" "BY THEM"! That wasn't possible (fabulous weather after months of rain) nor was it possible in winter (long story). I am driving bikes for 45 years and have had all sorts of tyres on and although I have seen feathering and cupping it wasn't until reaching near end of life. This is the first time I fitted Metzeler because I heard they were a long wearing tyre but the reviews must have been posted by the company themselves. My tyres speak for them selves!! I would go back to any of my previous choices (8,000 miles +) BUT I WILL NEVER BUY Metzeler AGAIN. I am dumbfounded that a German company could manufacture such rubbish.
I am absolutely disgusted with these junk tyres and the headache they have caused. PURE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A review of the same tires basically that have been out there for years is of little current value. There are lots of new tires available. How do they stack up? Not everybody wants to put a 250 dollar tire on when there are options at 2/3's the price. Are they any good?
Where can I learn more about bikes
I loved my metzeler
Night dragons not a bad name imo
I will say the beard difficulty system is super cringe ...
You don’t have to have a beard to wrench, and you definitely don’t have to be a man either! For some background, here’s Lemmy’s account of the history of the BSD: _“I love telling the story of it. I was sitting around the airport with some colleagues - among them were two of the co-founders of RevZilla. We were trying to come up with some way of quantifying how difficult something was, so I suggested how many BEERS it takes to get through a job. I was misheard, and it became BEARDS, which was funny because Mike C., one of our H-D geniuses, was present, and he has a wizard-esque beard. He laughed and liked it, and believe it or not, the outline of the guy you see in the graphic is actually the outline of Mike's head!”_
Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
Haha well I withdraw my statement after reading that story ! I do like beers tho, cheers
I also like beers! -DrewZilla
Measuring a job by the number of "beers" is very common in shade-tree garages. I figured it was a related system, except I don't know that any "beer" scale goes from 0 to 3. Most seem to be 5 to moonshine, or 10 to cutting torch. lol or maybe that's just me.
Any comments on the Dunlop D404 re: overall mileage and performance in the wet? I hear they're not particularly good on heavier bikes but I ride an 865cc Triumph Speedmaster.
They work pretty well in the rain and have pretty good overall mileage, and the Speedmaster is light enough for them, so they could be a good choice. -DrewZilla
Remember you can't diss the 404 on a Harley Davidson it is not designed for the Harley Davidson heavier cruisers. I installed 404's on my BMW R1200 CL and by R1200 C. They have been excellent on both bikes. Averaging 15,000 miles even before I considered replacing them. They give good wet road traction and will perform quite nicely all around.. They are a lot of Bang for the buck! Just order the right Dunlop 'Series' for your particular bike. Ride safe....
I got elite 4 dunlops for my 2023 goldwing