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Agreed. I understand the Statute of LImitations for some things. It assumes that if a person hasn't done anything since that they've changed as a person, etc. The whole point of "prison" isn't to punish someone, as much as it's supposed to rehabilitate, and keep them away from the public until they are. (Yes I know that's not really how it works, that's the idea of it anyway). It also allows police to officially chase another crimes, etc. However, Murder? Kidnapping? THese are two things that should never have that limitation no matter what.
I agree that we can't really forget someone did something so terrible, but at the same time, if we can't find a murderer after like 20 years, maybe its better to just forgive them so we can at least learn what actually happened, which might help in some future cases. Not much of a point in following a case where we haven't had a lead in decades.
@@andreisandulescu9042 no we shouldn’t let a murderer get off. The advances in DNA technology etc have allowed cold cases to be solved from the 50’s. The victims deserve justice, how ever long it takes. And periodic review of cold cases should always be undertaken.
@@Cramblit "Yes I know that's not really how it works, that's the idea of it anyway" Oh, but that is exactly how it works in countries with proper prison systems, where only a negligble amount of murderers, rapists and the like recidivate. When it comes to some crimes in some of these places, the recidivism rate can be as low as 0.4%, meaning that 99.6% learned from their mistakes. And besides, at the end of the day, what does it matter what crime someone has commited? Murder, kidnapping, rape... what difference does it make? Will imprisoning those criminals to make them suffer help anyone? All this kind of punitive justice does is potentially gratify the desire of revenge of those who've been harmed, but that's about it. And that's just a really toxic mindset for any society to have. Since it's normal for people to make mistakes, those should be forgiven, where possible. The desire for revenge doesn't contribute anything productive. Instead, taxes are wasted just to keep the criminals clothed, fed and warm. Rehabilitative justice, on the other hand, is actually productive. Not only does it actually allow them to repay the wrongs they did and live a normal life afterwards, but it's also beneficial from a tax perspective - which in turn benefits everyone.
I'm not often emotionally effected by true crime cases but for some reason, Lee Hyung-ho's case put a lump in my throat. He died in a pretty horrible way and his poor parents tried so hard to get him back. The failure of the police at the bridge is also pretty infuriating. If it was the uncle, I wonder how he can justify killing his sister's child. Just so sad.
The concept of hurting a defenceless child is unimaginable to me. The people who do are without souls and need to be expunged from our existence. Our instinct should be to protect and nurture a child, you have to have some shit gone wrong in your head to go against it.
@@HardWhereHero Man I can't even watch movies where kids die, IDK how people go out and physically do that shit. Feel like whatever point he wanted to make about the guy he actually had beef with just flat out doesn't matter anymore because he hurt someone that had nothing to do with it let alone a kid. I wish the worst on this guy, I really do.
@@HardWhereHero well said, and on that note, it’s horrifying wen a child’s life is taken by their own mother-and they never seem to get long jail sentences? Some are freed and then have more kids?!? Am I horrible to feel that if a mom ends their child’s life, they should have their tubes tied especially since they rarely stay in jail for a long time. If u failed as a mother, being violent to that point of ending life, they should never be allowed or trusted to conceive more babies!
The first case was so heartbreaking. How can there be a statute of limitations for murder? That's insane. I fear that Marilyn is long dead. Rest in peace to the deceased, and peace to their families.
@@oyleday0195 Someone who kills another intentionally deserves to suffer a horrific death reminiscent of what they did to the victim. I do not care how old the person is, it can be a withering grandpa on his final days or a newborn baby, murder is unforgivable.
Through the whole story of Hyung-so’s kidnapping I was thinking that it felt really personal, like the Snake really wanted his parents to suffer and jump through hoops for him more than anything else and the money was just a bonus. So when you said uncle with a grudge and financial problems I was instantly sold.
Based on her weird behaviour and unwilligness to talk about it to anyone I think another theory is even more possible. What if she wasn't exactly a victim and instead did something horrible herself? Maybe she killed someone in self defense or entirely by accident but the event was so random she was never linked to it? Or maybe the victim was never even discovered or recognized as dead by foul play. The paranoia, complete change of character, not talking about it to even best friends - this is how I imagine a person with a guilty conscience acting. Maybe there wasn't even anyone on her trail at all, but she was so convinced she's gonna be discovered, she decided to disappear?
"What if she wasn't exactly a victim and instead did something horrible herself? Maybe she killed someone in self defense or entirely by accident but the event was so random she was never linked to it? " I had similar thoughts...with the possibility of a schizophrenic manifestation with delusions that had perhaps precipitated the accident/crime/unfortunate occurrence?
Marilyn's behavior sounds a lot like a friend of mine who in his adult years is affected by schizophrenia. All down to the thoughts of being followed, running away (his family couldn't find him for a while). I'm not saying that's definitely what it is, but it really made me think of his situation.
The police………….were undercover in the wrong spot……..🤦♀️ I triple check the address when I’m meeting someone for lunch, shouldn’t a hostage negotiation potentially warrant some proofreading?!
And then they got bored and stopped paying attention when they were in the right spot. 🫠🤦♀️ Like, I'm sorry it's not interesting at the moment but, ffs, you _are_ trying to rescue a kidnapped child and this could be the only way to catch the kidnapper. It probably _was_ their one chance and it was FUBAR'd. All because the officers zoned out. Smdh
In the case of Marilyn, it really sounds she was struggling from a mental health issue. Her saying “you have no idea what I’ve been through” and having the sudden change of personality could mean she went through some sort of trauma, or she just finally had enough and suffered from depression.
Considering how many languages she spoke maybe she just felt pressured by her life. The complicated thing about these stories is we only know what we are allowed to hear. We don't know what her family was actually like to her.
hi Lazy❤ i am Québécoise, and Marilyn's case is quite infamous here in Québec. i just listened to an episode by one of my favorites podcasts ('Captives', for my fellow French speakers) this morning on the case, and they mentioned a theory that i had never thought of... marilyn's psychiatrist had mentioned that marilyn was a 'severe case', requiring hospitalization... thus, the podcast hosts came up with the theory that maybe marilyn's paranoid behaviour was all due to psychosis, or at least her mental health that was on the decline. what if she imagined a menace that made her leave impromptu? food for thoughts... anyways, thank you for covering this case❤ the coverage is appreciated and we all hope to get some closure, for marilyn and her family's sake.
C'est fou, je crois que je n'ai jamais entendu parlé de Marilyn! Comme plusieurs ont mentionné, sa disparition pourrais effectivement avoir été causé par des problèmes de santé mentale
@ Breanna Sacchetti on the contrary, it seems even more unusual bc if you’re simply a paranoid or overcautious person your head would be on a swivel. Instead, she’s like a broken shopping cart, turning one way only. I have to think her angst is directed @someone specifically.
It seems possible to me that Marilyn did something to someone, rather than someone doing something to her. Would fit with what she said to her parents and that friend...
@@tekbarrier Possibly to see if she had any access to the account? I've done the same at times...but it doesn't fit for a financial balckmail. Perhaps for something more nefarious.
sounds like the girl who went missing might have had a psychotic break and started having delusions of being followed which is why she did not want to share with anyone for fear of them also being involved with whoever she thought was out to get her, it might have been triggered by the stress of traveling
I was thinking that too, especially how no suggestion was "as awful" as what she was going through is in line with psychosis episodes. Either way, it's a tragedy
100% what I was thinking as well. If she witnessed a crime or was assaulted, she would've immediately told police or at the very least her loved ones, it makes zero logical sense not to. However, if she had a psychotic break and started having delusions of being followed, she would be totally unable to explain why she was being followed, and by who or what. Then, fearing that she would be seen as "crazy" for her explanation, she decided to bottle it up. She probably had delusions of many people, or even entities were following her and terrifying her. Since she couldn't tell reality from delusion, she was unaware that whatever she was experiencing wasn't real. In the end, she probably decided to run away thinking that it would help. The strange clothing would be explained as well: many people who have schizophrenia or are suffering from psychosis will dress contrary to the weather (such as wearing heavy jackets in hot weather, or little clothing in the extreme cold). She likely realized in the end that nothing would help her lose the people/things following her, and ended up taking her own life, which would explain why sightings shortly after her disappearance stopped. This was all triggered by her move as psychosis can be triggered by stress in individuals who are already suffering with a mental illness. I'm thinking she jumped off a bridge since no body was ever recovered and she lived very close to a large river. I think this was very preventable, she showed all the signs of someone who is suicidal and the parents should have had her hospitalized and evaluated. Locking yourself in a room and refusing to talk to anyone is extremely abnormal and in line with a suicidal person. All around tragic situation and pretty sad that everybody is jumping to drastic conclusions of "disappearing" or being the target of a criminal organization instead of the more reasonable one of a mental health issue, especially in light of the overwhelming symptoms in line with a psychotic condition like schizophrenia.
Agreed. It seems like there are several missing person stories where someone is acting bizarre, then they are never heard from again… so potentially some undiagnosed form of psychosis? Like when that young man sprinted out of an airport and was never seen again. In one case they actually found one of the missing victims several years later. He had suddenly ran out into a blizzard after consuming ridiculous amounts of sugar, went to the grocery store he worked at, then somehow managed to fall behind the dairy coolers into an almost inaccessible spot. It was never known if he had died when falling/climbing down into this crevice because if he had survived it’s likely no one would’ve heard him over the sound of industrial coolers. Also if they hadn’t renovated that store it’s likely he never would’ve been found. I always think of that case when hearing these stories as you have to wonder… what made this man climb up a wall behind a shelf of milk…? It seems logic can’t be applied to these cases if you want to find the end result as literally no one would’ve guessed that’s where he wound up.
Text messages in 1991? The first story had to have been someone within the family or friend circle. The kidnapper knew too much about the family. Knew personal phone numbers, knew their financial situation, and knew that he had a stepmother and grandfather.
The first cellphone came out in 1973. By the year 2000 we were already up to mass consumer cellphones as that was 27 years later and 1991 would be 18 years after the first. Not sure how old you are or if you remember but like Computers that existed well before the 90's (late 1800's) not everyone had one because of the cost and society takes time to adopt new tech (especially back then) but they were around. My mother had a pager in the 90's and a cellphone. I got my first cellphone around 2002-2003 but they were popular before that. For example, the Sidekick 1 was crazy popular and it's release date was 2001 and before that the black berry was crazy popular in 1999, they were essentially the Iphone or Samsung of their day, then came the 2, 3 etc. The push to talk chirp phones started in 1996 and got it's peak popularity around 2004. Just giving context to cellphone thing in 1991. I use to work in the cellphone industry, and I remember my childhood in the 90's growing up in New York. If you had a cellphone prior to like 1998, you were rich, high middle class or did certain jobs where the company gave you one, or worked in the cellphone industry back then to show it off. Things really took off after 2000 and the more modern cellphone era. People don't realize this, but we just entered the "Smart phone" era not too long ago, it has not been as long as people think and technically the first smart phone prototype was in 1992. Smart phones took off around 2006-07, that's not even far from the 90's or 2000.
@@drjonesey5unless you count mechanical calculators, computers only existed after the 1930s or 40s If we count mechanical calculaters one could make an argument of computers existing up to 1000 bc. Idk where you got late 1800s from.
@@drjonesey5 That's all fine and dandy, except that, the first text message was sent on December 3rd, 1992 by Neil Papworth. Your lesson on irrelevant facts about the history of technology doesn't really matter. It ain't possible that they were sending SMS text messages in 1991. Possibly, they mean they used alphanumeric pagers, but they were very limiting in message size, not convenient at all when trying to communicate specific detailed instructions.
The first case somewhat reminds me of the story of the Little Gregory, a terrible french case around the murder of a young child (Grégory Villemin), blackmail, family jalousies. It's still not solved today, almost 40 years later. Netflix made a fine series about it if you want to know more about it. Thank you for your hard work! Edit : The series is called "Who killed Little Gregory ?" I didn't mention it at first because I wasn't sure about the english title and then kinda forgot about my comment.
Oh, it was good, I binged it in a night! Or horrible, you know what I mean.. Easily the oddest true crime case I know, so convoluted, so many players and all of it so unexpected. Who kills 4yo kid without really any valid reason? I really hope it gets solved one day.
@@Seinsmelled It was a big, extended family. Im just guessing here, but Id say about 20-35 relatives and their partners. Confusing, but mos def worth the watch. And they used a family tree to help us watchers grasp who they meant, it made it much easier
Marilyn's story seems consistent with other documented reports of psychotic breaks. Believing somebody was "out to get her" she fled without concern for her own well-being. My guess is that while fleeing, she ended up somewhere dangerous and was killed. Exposure to the elements, becoming lost, animal attack, I don't know. Was their any any official inquiry to her mental health?
Maybe like he mentioned in the video that she saw a violent crime and it might’ve triggered anxiety or a psychotic break like you said. My guess is as good as yours whatever happened or where she went
I’m glad you covered the story of Marilyn Bergeron. It’s mainly been covered in the French media and by Quebec crime podcasts. Ive hardly found her case translated into English. I spend a lot of time in Montreal and ive been told there’s a lot of criminal/mafia activity there. The possibilities are endless for Marilyn’s case, but I definitely don’t believe she disappeared on her own. Poor girl. I Hope she’s okay.
What's funny is, I know nothing about Montreal except how to pronounce it properly and my very first thought was "mob-related." This definitely doesn't seem like a run of the mill "I saw a bad thing."
I watched the film inspired by Lee Hyung Ho's case and it was so agonizing. The suspect toyed with the poor child's parents, fooled them into thinking their child was still alive, and fed on their despair to reunite with their son. The end of the movie confirming the sad ending of this case, as it has already reached its statute of limitations, broke my heart.
There's another great movie by Bong Joon-ho about unsolved serial murders in Korea called Memories of Murder. It's like Zodiac, the film is as much about the effect the investigation had on the cops leading it as it is about the murders themselves. A teriffic movie.
That first story was just so sad. How horrible for the child and his parents. Marilyn's story makes me wonder if she got involved with someone powerful through her flight attendant's position, maybe she overheard something she wasn't supposed to know. Or maybe she was forced into a trafficking situation. Terrible that her parents may never know what became of her.
at the end of the movie Voice of A Murder, which is quite good tbh, the tapes of the calls are being played asking people to call the police if they recognise the voice. it's very chilling to listen to to them.
Marilyn was 24 at the time of her disappearance. People with schizophrenia endure the full brunt of the illness around the age of 25. Very possible this is linked to mental illness of some kind.
Case 1- I get the impression that the 'snake' may have also been a police officer. They were step ahead of the family and cops from the start. Case 2- It's likely that she's still alive and in hiding. Though what drove her to that extreme remains a mystery.
If I remember well, someone said that Marilyn saw something so disturbing, she couldn't talk about it to anybody...I heard it in a documentary about her on a French tv channel here in Quebec.
Maybe she saw something demonic/paranormal and knew nobody would have believed her. Maybe she called the city awful, cause she discovered what some dark elites are doing in it. Maybe she was working and came in contact with powerful people and their disgusting parties and practises. The only way I would refuse telling something to the police or a therapist, would be if I would know nobody would take me serious anyway, or I wouldnt trust that this information is not reaching the people who told me to shut up. She might not have believed in what she witnessed herself before that and it threw her worldview off the rails and thats why she changed too.
@@calistafalcontail I could see her getting tangled up in some dark business, perhaps even involving trafficking, but that’s going out on a limb. It’s likely to be something relatively mundane like mental illness causing paranoia. The QAnon stuff is delusional and frankly embarrassing. The whole Pizzagate thing is likely to have been a psyop meant to make discussion of shady business in “elite” circles look absurd, and gullible people like you took the bate. American suburban psychosis.
@@calistafalcontailI mean the elite kind of ppl definitely do shit like that, but I don’t think that’s what caused her to act like that. Btw you’ve seen the movie “Eyes Wide Shut” before, huh? lol. Amazing movie btw…
I was actually born and raised in Hawkesbury (it's pronounced Hawk's burry, not sure if that helps) and actually lived there at the time, around my late teens. Almost shit bricks when I heard you mention it! Had to take another look at the photos and footage but, truth be told, I can't say that I recognize her. It was big for a small town but it's usually recognizable when a new face pops in. What's weird to me is that I, at the time, was doing a co-op program, through my school, at the local English newspaper. I was also a newspaper distributor (paperboy, if you will) for a local French newspaper and I don't recall this story ever popping up in either publications. I won't discredit the possibility of some form of foul play coming about here. Hawkesbury was (not sure if it still is, left in July 2010) a hotbed for bikers, particularly Hell's Angels, as the town lies in between Ottawa and Montreal, two major cities in Canada, with Toronto being a few hours drive past Ottawa. As such, Hawkesbury was frequented with drugs shipped through by the aforementioned bikers. Not sure if this helps (and apologies for the long diatribe) but, if nothing, it might give some insight. Feel free to message if you'd like more info!
Has anyone from your area been talking about the missing woman? Cuz my friend is from Ottawa and he mentioned something about a frenzy that a rival sex trafficking ring could be lurking about.
@@KoopaBOOEY I also listen to all of them. The voice is essential for me. I particularly enjoy B. Busta's, that I only discovered few weeks ago. Let's read is pretty nice too. He also has a podcast, perfect for very long listen without draining the battery.
@@KoopaBOOEY try That Chapter also, you seem to have the same taste in what you enjoy as I do and im sure you'll love him! He's very good at the cases he covers and also puts a little humour in there too!
As a Quebecois myself (and lived in both mtl and Saguenay) hearing about this and also Claude Poirier feels wild. I don't really remember this case though, I was only around 10. I've been in Montreal for about 6 years now, some places are deffinetly unsafe
Marylin probably tried running away at first due to whatever she’d witnessed, but sounds to me like she ended up getting killed in the end. That would explain the early sightings of her, her dying her hair blonde to disguise herself, etc.
@@chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 Eh, considering that she was quite literally in the safe presence of her parents, boyfriend, and literally in her well-known house in a completely different place altogether. She seriously could have realized all of this and spit out whatever oh-so-terrible secret she had been keeping. Furthermore, I’m not saying it’s not normal to feel fear, not at all. But I do say is not normal is not thinking rationally about your safety and the apprehension of the individual responsible; A very simple and reasonable solution would be to go out into an isolated and faraway area with zero risk of overhearing, especially through electronics and pour out whatever has been flowing through your heart and soul. I mean, it’s literally at least the best option at such rate, at least comparatively so. Police will still be investigating either way, and you’re still at a risk of death for being a witness, at least PROVIDE some clues to bring justice to the crime done. But no, thanks to her childish and stupid mistake of lacking any momentary comprehension: she put herself in danger by separating herself from the only place safe to her, prevented any justice from being done, and more than likely, now others are at risk as well. Just saying, is all, it’s certainly a thought.
@@chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 And as I’ve said it’s certainly normal to feel fear under such trying circumstances, but I would at least expect that to… somewhat “fuel” the need of logical thinking of your safety and wellbeing. That said, I would expect such paralyzing fear to prevent you from separating yourself from the location safest to you possible. Which is literally what she did.
That first story it literally broke my heart how can somebody be that cruel to a innocent child I hope whoever did that to that young boy is brought to Justice and tortured if they're still alive. if not I'll hope they're rotten in hell I cannot imagine what that boy went through I was a kid around the time this happen which makes it even more terrifying R.I.P. Lee Hyung-ho you did not deserve to have your life viciously tooken away like that I hope you're in a better place
I would be so pissed if the police didn’t catch the person who kidnapped my son, not because they couldn’t, but because they stopped paying attention 3 hours after putting bait out.
@@tommyfraz. Just when he was about to leave the store, he was caught on CCTV as he ate one of the grapes he had purchased. The people looked on in sheer terror, as they witnessed his pants with the zipper down.
That last case reminded me of the case of Hannah Upp. She went missing 3 times and had no memory of the times whilst she was mmissing. She had dissociative fugue (probably not spelt correctly).
The second story definitely sounds like she's running from something she did rather than something done to her. Like other comments brought up, she might've inadvertently killed someone or gotten someone killed and ran away due to the guilt and fear of being found out.
The way she talked about the city (like she found out something dark about it and not like she did something bad) and the fact that she feels like she cant share what she has experienced or seen, makes me think it was something paranormal/demonic and dark and she doesnt wanna say it in fear of getting called crazy. She maybe struggled understanting it herself and cant fathom what exists in this world. Witnessing a ritual murder or getting tortured or knowing stuff about someone elite/powerful in that regard, make some unable to share it.
@@calistafalcontailthis is literally so insensitive lmfao. we are talking about the real world here. if she believes saw something demonic then it’s clearly a mental health problem.
Maybe Marilyn suffered a schizophrenic psychotic break. She was hearing voices that were traumatic ("so much worse.") and in her paranoia, she became convinced that she could trust no one and that someone was following her.
18:12 I find this image so eerily haunting. The mystery of what that girl had gone through and what exactly she's looking at here is unnerving to think about.
Wow Lazy doing a video about the Marilyn Bergeron disappearance! Thanks ❤️❤️❤️ I was friend with somebody in her family (a cousin I think) and they were so look-a-like… I was shocked when I discovered this story. Man I feel so much pain for her family 😔 I can’t wait until the day we find out what happened… if we do. I hope so. Plein d’amour à la famille et aux amis si quelqu’un d’entre eux me lit ❤❤❤
Statute of limitations for a young boy's murder so the murderer will never be charged what a pathetic joke that is I've always hated the statute of limitations for serious crimes and this is exactly why there should be no limits placed on murder whatsoever and it needs to be completely abolished because its completely unjust to the victims of such crimes
There have been two stories that are almost identical to Marylins. I can't help but think about Emma Fillipoff and Kaelyn louder. In both cases each girl told close family and friends that they were dealing with something that was beyond their control they exhibited behavior suggesting they thought they were being followed and they'd all been seen after they'd gone missing by other people. Obviously kaelyn's body was found later on and it was suggested that it had been suicide but there were still circumstances that weren't exactly clear. In all three cases they all seem to be struggling with their mental health. Again it could be something they're dealing with that is an extenuating circumstance or it could be a psychotic break but unfortunately it sounds like we won't ever really know.
@@GenXfrom75 yes and the creepiest thing about it is there have been reports that a guy went into a store and told the owner to take down her missing posters because she wasn't missing and that she was in fact his girlfriend. No one has been able to identify that guy. That has seriously creeped me out for years.
@@lesliemartin3 why do i feel like something fishy is going on in Canada? i mean if these girls are similar to their cases, and ARE in canada. it really makes me feel like there's a group of people behind this.
I believe the RCMP are incompetent at times. If you simply Google how many times they have dropped the ball or even down right refused to act it will make you sick. Especially when it comes to indigenous women. Just check out the trail of tears or how many women who were found dead close to Edmonton.
@@Windermed Marilyn Bergeron disappeared from Québec city, QC., and Emma Fillipoff from Victoria, BC. Both cities are closer from Mexico than from each other. One is a french speaking city and the other is an english one. I don't think those events are related at all. Plus, there's no need to have a "group of people" to make two women disappeared: they are many serial killers who made 30ish victims all by themselves.
Marilyn's case made me think she's done something horrible to someone, not the other way around. She might've killed someone or something similar, and in that case, of course you cannot tell a single soul what happened. She could've fled to save herself. Not saying I know from experience, but when you feel guilt and fear for what you've done, Marilyn's behavior certainly represents the exact actions one might take
Marilyn's case sounds so much like a case of human trafficking. She reminds me so much of Natanalie Perez's case. Her reaction to being pressed about what happened in Montreal, the fact that she potentially was with someone when she disappeared having no personal ID on her, the secretiveness about her situation out of fear of whatever she was going through...There's a good chance she's still out there but cannot escape the situation she's in without personal ID. Even if she did have that, it wouldn't be the first time a victim of kidnapping/human trafficking remained with their captors even if they could "technically" leave. It's not that simple. Police are doing her a disservice by treating her as voluntarily disappearing without any solid evidence of this.
Ahh hell no . If I had a daughter and ask her if she was raped or beaten and she said it’s much worse than that , you better bet she ain’t going nowhere till i found out what it is , not leaving the house not leaving the room not taking one step
yeah i agree i'd even go as far as to miss work if i had to if it meant that i could watch over my daughter and keep her safe until the proper authorities get involved
I think Lazy Masquerade mixed up his info a little bit. All other articles I read about this case stated that she said that to her friend with whom she went to the party, not to her parents.
I fell asleep listening to Lazy last night and I have never had such vivid, colorful, WILD dreams like that before. Hahaha. Definitely beats traditional ASMR.
To me the second case just seems like she was someone undiagnosed with schizophrenia and/or bipolar disorder, it’s obvious at the very least her running away was voluntary and was clearly in a crazed state, but the vagueness in her details and extreme paranoia seems more like something that happened with in her own head than in real life.
fun fact, the b roll of the snake you used in the first story is one of the most gentle derpy snakes you can have as a pet, they're the puppy dog of snakes and I had one in college who I loved dearly. it's a red tail boa , they'd only ever bite you on accident when you're trying to feed them bc they're goofy babies (don't ever give your snake live food unless you're alright with the live food possibly killing your pet by tearing it's eyes out ) I can't imagine what you'd have to do to one to get it to bite you for any other reason. just thought it was funny given the situation, the guy was referred to as the snake bc he was dangerous and easily deadly but the b roll used was the exact opposite type of snake. love, a snake nerd 🐍
The most intriguing case is by far Marilyn. It just leads to sooo many questions. Like it's endless . She could've accidentally saw something or did something. It can be mental health. I feel like we will never truly get real answers till she is found.
When I was studying abroad in Korea, my friend was speeding and slowed down before the speed check point. I asked if they had speed traps between the automated set ones and he told me no and that no one takes the police seriously in Korea. But on the other hand, when I had drank too much and had a bad reaction with my medication, the police stopped me and the man I was with 3 separate times to ask if he drugged me. My understanding from obtaining my Korean language minor and the cultural classes required for it is that the majority of the public distrusts the police in Korea and views them as incompetent.
Here's are the top three theories about what might have happened to Marilyn, in order of likelihood in my personal opinion (based on what we know, with help from other comments): 1. While in Montreal living alone in her apartment, she began to experience psychotic episodes. She began to realize that her mental health was deteriorating and it terrified her, she was becoming schizophrenic. This would be consistent because A) Her age is around the age this horrible disease begins to onset B) It would make sense for her to describe it as "worse" than being attacked, but not want to elaborate out of fear of losing friends and family to stigma and C) Apparently her psychiatrist had said she may require hospitalization. She didn't want to be alone in Montreal anymore so she moved back in with her parents, hoping it would help her feel "normal". It didn't, she left the house, walked the full 25k to buy that coffee, then perhaps took her own life. The following "sightings" were just coincidences in this scenario. 2. Marilyn herself committed, or was involved in, some sort of horrible crime. Perhaps she encouraged someone to try some drug, but that person ended up overdosing and dying because of her. Or something along those lines - she made a huge mistake that haunted her with guilt. Similar as above from here - she left Montreal to move back with her parents, couldn't get past it, and ran away from home. Only in this scenario, perhaps she lived and started a new life. 3. She fell victim to foul play either in the form of A) Somebody who was stalking her in Montreal, who followed her to Quebec City, but more likely B) A group of organized human traffickers whom she encountered in Montreal. She was in communication with them even when she moved back to Quebec as they were threatening her, and eventually coerced her to go with them after threatening her family and friends if she didn't comply. They drove her to the coffee shop, then she was taken to Ontario when she lives with her captors. In this scenario, she was indeed the woman who used that family's phone in Hawksbury - she was lightly dressed as she may have been forced to look "skimpy", and was drugged up, so she did not feel the cold.
It's really easy to be on the outside and hear a short video and think "Ah, that sounds like mental illness!" But it's been over a decade since her disappearance and her most recent sighting was only last year. Most likely, she is still alive. "Psychotic breaks" and "episodes" are just that- they're episodic, not permanent. While delusions and paranoia are not uncommon among those with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, it IS exceptionally uncommon for it to cause people to disappear for decades at a time. I also used to work professionally with people who have severe psychiatric disorders, and these people with such *severe* manifestations could not survive independently nor could they work. So, if Marilyn is still alive and supporting herself, she clearly has the cognitive faculties required for daily functioning...meaning her delusions are not debilitating. So, again, why would she need to disappear for a decade? It really just doesn't line up. I'm not ruling it out, but I just don't think mental illness is the primarily culprit here. My guess is that she herself was involved (perhaps involuntarily or accidentally) in some sort of crime.
I also don’t agree with the mental issue thing,also her parents tried to help her through therapy,so therapist would have found out about the things.and without diagnosis she can never survive alone hiding.
That theory is as good as any. How is some random girl from Quebec going to survive traveling through thousands upon thousands of miles of Canadian Wilderness without the mental facilities to take care of herself.
There’s literally so many cases of the exact same thing, someone suddenly starts acting strangely and secretive, then disappears. It’s absolutely paranoid delusions. Anything else is just conspiracy theorizing for entertainment value. There was no one after her and there was no crime. She probably fell farther into her mental illness after leaving and is living with a new identity, or went off somewhere alone and died.
Well obviously mental illness would not be the primary reason for her continued disappearance, just her initial one. I generally see people include two parts in the mental illness theory: the MI causing her to flee, and a bad actor or accident (or risk taking behavior, which is associated with MI) would have killed or rendered her unable to return to society. I think most people have enough common sense to know that just being mentally ill doesn’t cause complete amnesia
i’m sure if she is still alive and has schizophrenia, leaving it untreated will just make it worse. psychosis can occur with schizophrenic delusions but untreated (and even sometimes treated) schizophrenics still hear voices and experience delusions even if they aren’t in an episode.
This is a crazy theory, but what if the kidnappers had some of his accomplices dress as cops to watch over the family and purposefully botch the extraction
Supposedly the South Korean police are famously incompetent. I've watched loads of true crime stories from there where they're just a mess pretty much - I can't remember his name but I'm sure there was a serial killer in quite a small village who killed loads of people and eventually handed himself in after they never caught him for years despite him never even really trying to cover his tracks (wanted the notoriety I guess and was sick of them not catching him). What I've heard from South Koreans is basically the same - that they see their police as totally incompetent.
Ya know, I'm just thankful the true crime genre has become so popular. Because though you all are making some money doing the job. You all, also tell the victims story. And these victims NEED to be remembered. So thank you❣
Marilyn's case has intrigued me the most because of the fact I am Canadian myself It seems so off how someone can have such a quick shift in emotion She seems to have a guilty conscience with the way she was acting and she committed something bad herself Either way the story is really depressing and I hope the truth will finally be uncovered
That second story sounds like she either really witnessed something or she was starting to experience symptoms of some paranoia-based psychosis. And honestly there should be a law where the parents of a missing person could file it under a new category. This new category would be for situations where it is suspected that the missing person is suffering from psychosis and presents a danger to themselves or society if left alone by authorities. Like a mental illness equivalent of a welfare check but with the assumption that danger to self or the public is imminent unless proven otherwise.
I remember when the Marilyne Bergeron story was unfolding. My mom worked at the same radio station Claude Poirier worked at, it was crazy... wasn't that story also featured on Poirier's show "Qui a tué"? It's weird to hear stories that captivated my province on your channel
From the information given in the video I personally would suggest that the most likely explanation for the case of Marilyn Bergeron is that she herself did something in Montreal she couldn´t come to peace with, which made her decide to completely leave everything behind that makes her remember. She herself denies that she has been attacked in any way and, as said in the video, says that whatever it is all about is "much worse than that". There is always the possibility that she was victim of some group or person that threatened to follow her or to hurt someone if she speaks out about something she witnessed or experienced, but this to me seems too far fetched. Based on her behaviour it is much more reasonable to assume that she is not a victim but guilty of something. She might have a very strong and heartwrenching feeling of guilt about what happened in Montreal, which is why she doesnt want to go back there and why it is such an struggle for her to speak about it. Also that she starts to emotionally crumble when her father asked her about someone hurting her doesnt have to mean that she was victim of SA or something on that line. Maybe it made her recall how she hurt someone which triggered the feeling of guilt? Because why would she very clearly deny any involvement of an aggressor or another person? If you truly were victim of something horrible that was done to you it may be that you wouldnt want to talk about the exact things that happened, but would you really make very clear, even to police, that there was no one else involved? Also her disappearing makes much more sense if you see it as voluntary, instead of some kind of "fleeing from a persecuter" or something similar. She leaves her ID and everything else behind that could identify her and only takes her credit card with her so that she can withdraw money. Thats exactly what someone would do if the intent is to go missing. Her looking around on the recording from the ATM doesnt really suggest that she fears being followed. It just seems like a nerverous behaviour you would expect from someone who has the intent to leave their old life behind with all kinds of thoughts and fears racing trough ones mind. Based on all that and that she labels whatever happened as "much more worse" than any type of assault makes me strongly believe that she may be responsible for someones death. Maybe she involuntarily killed someone in a struggle or by pure accident? That would explain her sudden change in behaviour and her disapperance, as she may fear the police finding out what happened or maybe she just wanted to start a new life out of shame. It may have seemed like the only reasonable way out for her. But the question then would be why there is no link to her and a murder. Maybe the body has not been found or it was never linked to her? And why are there no witnesses to such an event? But thats just speculation and I have no expertise to support my claim. It just explains her behaviour and all events very well in my eyes.
The way they described her as being dressed in high heels and a shirt and jeans in the middle of a frigid winter, and she just wanted to make one call that didn't connect, makes me think she's been trafficked and sold into prostitution, it's not uncommon for vulnerable girls to end up that way and it's possible whoever is trafficking her is who she was trying to call.
She could have been terrified of someone that did something really bad to her. She didn’t know how to talk about it and had a breakdown. Things do happen that way and others ways. We won’t know until she can tell us sometime it doesn’t work out that way. I wish her well
Ugh thank you for posting more. I’ve been watching/listening your videos over and over for years while doing errands or cleaning. I’m so glad you’re posting more content.
Sounds like an "If we can't have him, no one can!" kind of thing. With a little "Plus I got debts to pay and some cash wouldn't hurt" mixed in. If the uncle/maternal family _was_ involved (and, from the sounds of it, they were), then it's absolutely despicable.
In the case of Marylin, I believe she did witness something of a criminal nature in Montreal related to organised crime. They then gave her an ultimatum, come and live with them and remain unharmed as long as she adapted to their lifestyles, or be killed because they couldnt let her go after what she had discovered. They would have demonstrated there abilities in tracking and other things before telling her to make a decision. She got her affairs in order and was extremely anxious and upset about having to completely change her lifestyle but she knew it would be far better than an early demise. Eventually she arrived at the couples house in Canada and attempted to contact these people to let them know she was at the location they told her they would meet her, and the landmark she asked about directions to was where she waited for them.
The marilyn case is certainly intriguing, considering that the reason behind her behavior might have been because she killed someone or she was having a mental break. Both are very scary things to witness because nothing is more scarier than losing your sanity, which is the basis of life in general.
What she said did NOT sound like she killed someone or did anything herself...she witnessed something or was forced to do something. Maybe it was even paranormal or demonic and thats why she cant talk to anyone cause she feared being called crazy.
@@calistafalcontailI agree, also the only hint she gave to her parents and friend kind of sounds like something related with paranormal but who knows.
The first case sounds like there could be something dodgy going on with the police (The Snake knowing what was going on and the police botching the capture of him) but I could be wrong as I have a slight bias against the police
The first story broke my heart. I love true crime and have watched so many documentaries etc but that story really got to me. I’ll never understand how anybody could hurt a child.
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Statue of limitations on a murder and kidnap is terrible,no matter how much time has passed they should still be held accountable
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Agreed. I understand the Statute of LImitations for some things. It assumes that if a person hasn't done anything since that they've changed as a person, etc. The whole point of "prison" isn't to punish someone, as much as it's supposed to rehabilitate, and keep them away from the public until they are. (Yes I know that's not really how it works, that's the idea of it anyway). It also allows police to officially chase another crimes, etc.
However, Murder? Kidnapping? THese are two things that should never have that limitation no matter what.
I agree that we can't really forget someone did something so terrible, but at the same time, if we can't find a murderer after like 20 years, maybe its better to just forgive them so we can at least learn what actually happened, which might help in some future cases. Not much of a point in following a case where we haven't had a lead in decades.
@@andreisandulescu9042 no we shouldn’t let a murderer get off. The advances in DNA technology etc have allowed cold cases to be solved from the 50’s. The victims deserve justice, how ever long it takes. And periodic review of cold cases should always be undertaken.
@@Cramblit "Yes I know that's not really how it works, that's the idea of it anyway"
Oh, but that is exactly how it works in countries with proper prison systems, where only a negligble amount of murderers, rapists and the like recidivate. When it comes to some crimes in some of these places, the recidivism rate can be as low as 0.4%, meaning that 99.6% learned from their mistakes.
And besides, at the end of the day, what does it matter what crime someone has commited? Murder, kidnapping, rape... what difference does it make? Will imprisoning those criminals to make them suffer help anyone? All this kind of punitive justice does is potentially gratify the desire of revenge of those who've been harmed, but that's about it. And that's just a really toxic mindset for any society to have. Since it's normal for people to make mistakes, those should be forgiven, where possible. The desire for revenge doesn't contribute anything productive. Instead, taxes are wasted just to keep the criminals clothed, fed and warm.
Rehabilitative justice, on the other hand, is actually productive. Not only does it actually allow them to repay the wrongs they did and live a normal life afterwards, but it's also beneficial from a tax perspective - which in turn benefits everyone.
The first case is so sad and haunting 😢 but the uncle theory sounds the most believable, especially with him having financial troubles.
Idk if that's enough to find him guilty. He also has an alibi. Either way it's so sad and twisted
Seems nonsensical to have a statute of limitations of murder. Poor kid
Weren’t the bank accounts owned by him?
@@leahcimolrac1477 I believe South Korea has since changed that law. I don't think it applies retroactively though
@@Zephyrion__ they were owner by people he knew, friends I believe it Lazy said.
I'm not often emotionally effected by true crime cases but for some reason, Lee Hyung-ho's case put a lump in my throat. He died in a pretty horrible way and his poor parents tried so hard to get him back. The failure of the police at the bridge is also pretty infuriating. If it was the uncle, I wonder how he can justify killing his sister's child. Just so sad.
The police had one job....
The concept of hurting a defenceless child is unimaginable to me. The people who do are without souls and need to be expunged from our existence. Our instinct should be to protect and nurture a child, you have to have some shit gone wrong in your head to go against it.
@@HardWhereHero Man I can't even watch movies where kids die, IDK how people go out and physically do that shit. Feel like whatever point he wanted to make about the guy he actually had beef with just flat out doesn't matter anymore because he hurt someone that had nothing to do with it let alone a kid. I wish the worst on this guy, I really do.
@Dy RR same. I'm a huge horror movie fan, but kids dying is just a no, it makes me sick. No clue how anyone can hurt children, they're so innocent.
@@HardWhereHero well said, and on that note, it’s horrifying wen a child’s life is taken by their own mother-and they never seem to get long jail sentences? Some are freed and then have more kids?!? Am I horrible to feel that if a mom ends their child’s life, they should have their tubes tied especially since they rarely stay in jail for a long time. If u failed as a mother, being violent to that point of ending life, they should never be allowed or trusted to conceive more babies!
The first case was so heartbreaking. How can there be a statute of limitations for murder? That's insane. I fear that Marilyn is long dead. Rest in peace to the deceased, and peace to their families.
@Russel sprout what the fuck thats so dumb & unfair
Literally. Like someone who murders a young child should ever see the light of day again.
@Russel sprout Good thing that there isn't. They deserve to be locked up for life.
@@oyleday0195 Someone who kills another intentionally deserves to suffer a horrific death reminiscent of what they did to the victim. I do not care how old the person is, it can be a withering grandpa on his final days or a newborn baby, murder is unforgivable.
@@sokaize ok
Through the whole story of Hyung-so’s kidnapping I was thinking that it felt really personal, like the Snake really wanted his parents to suffer and jump through hoops for him more than anything else and the money was just a bonus. So when you said uncle with a grudge and financial problems I was instantly sold.
Based on her weird behaviour and unwilligness to talk about it to anyone I think another theory is even more possible. What if she wasn't exactly a victim and instead did something horrible herself? Maybe she killed someone in self defense or entirely by accident but the event was so random she was never linked to it? Or maybe the victim was never even discovered or recognized as dead by foul play. The paranoia, complete change of character, not talking about it to even best friends - this is how I imagine a person with a guilty conscience acting. Maybe there wasn't even anyone on her trail at all, but she was so convinced she's gonna be discovered, she decided to disappear?
Interesting theory, makes a lot of sense actually.
Didn’t think about that but I think it’s a pretty solid theory. I mean, I may not be what happened, but it’s a good theory nonetheless
Same thoughts here
Yeah same I was thinking - what if she killed someone? Or was present or something.
"What if she wasn't exactly a victim and instead did something horrible herself? Maybe she killed someone in self defense or entirely by accident but the event was so random she was never linked to it? "
I had similar thoughts...with the possibility of a schizophrenic manifestation with delusions that had perhaps precipitated the accident/crime/unfortunate occurrence?
Marilyn's behavior sounds a lot like a friend of mine who in his adult years is affected by schizophrenia. All down to the thoughts of being followed, running away (his family couldn't find him for a while). I'm not saying that's definitely what it is, but it really made me think of his situation.
I hope he's doing well or at least better now
It was the same with my sister, she kept trying to leave the hospital, she thought she had to go off the grid to escape the evil robots.
I was going to comment that it sounded a lot like mental illness.
It also looks a bit like methamphetamine addiction or psychosis from it
@@geckokid8265 He's on medication and doing much better, thank you!
The police………….were undercover in the wrong spot……..🤦♀️
I triple check the address when I’m meeting someone for lunch, shouldn’t a hostage negotiation potentially warrant some proofreading?!
All bets are off with illegal activity; the rules change according to whim. In this case the objective was to torture the family.
And then they got bored and stopped paying attention when they were in the right spot. 🫠🤦♀️ Like, I'm sorry it's not interesting at the moment but, ffs, you _are_ trying to rescue a kidnapped child and this could be the only way to catch the kidnapper. It probably _was_ their one chance and it was FUBAR'd. All because the officers zoned out. Smdh
@@TheKillerqueen40 It's like they forgot what they signed up for. Just bloody shameful.
Maybe the police f****d up on purpose?
@@ahkarisoftpaws Most people in jobs tbh. So many lazy people out there (me included, but I work at smth not dangerous)
In the case of Marilyn, it really sounds she was struggling from a mental health issue. Her saying “you have no idea what I’ve been through” and having the sudden change of personality could mean she went through some sort of trauma, or she just finally had enough and suffered from depression.
That's what I was thinking, that she just believed it was so impossible to be helped due to mental illness
But what kind of traumatic incident?
She probably killed someone on self defense or something
Considering how many languages she spoke maybe she just felt pressured by her life. The complicated thing about these stories is we only know what we are allowed to hear. We don't know what her family was actually like to her.
@@rjmaxx1258 they could’ve been abusive.
hi Lazy❤ i am Québécoise, and Marilyn's case is quite infamous here in Québec. i just listened to an episode by one of my favorites podcasts ('Captives', for my fellow French speakers) this morning on the case, and they mentioned a theory that i had never thought of... marilyn's psychiatrist had mentioned that marilyn was a 'severe case', requiring hospitalization... thus, the podcast hosts came up with the theory that maybe marilyn's paranoid behaviour was all due to psychosis, or at least her mental health that was on the decline. what if she imagined a menace that made her leave impromptu? food for thoughts... anyways, thank you for covering this case❤ the coverage is appreciated and we all hope to get some closure, for marilyn and her family's sake.
C'est fou, je crois que je n'ai jamais entendu parlé de Marilyn!
Comme plusieurs ont mentionné, sa disparition pourrais effectivement avoir été causé par des problèmes de santé mentale
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cela me rappelle le cas d'Elisa Lam, personne ne savait ce qui s'était passé jusqu'à ce qu'on découvre qu'elle souffrait d'une maladie mentale
Looking behind you at an ATM isn't suspicious by itself. I look over my shoulder all the time while withdrawing money from an ATM.
My thoughts exactly.
Same, you never know who could be watching you.
She wasn't even looking behind her in that photo she was looking to the side, which isn't suspicious either.
@ Breanna Sacchetti on the contrary, it seems even more unusual bc if you’re simply a paranoid or overcautious person your head would be on a swivel. Instead, she’s like a broken shopping cart, turning one way only. I have to think her angst is directed @someone specifically.
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It seems possible to me that Marilyn did something to someone, rather than someone doing something to her. Would fit with what she said to her parents and that friend...
I wonder if she was made to participate in something terrible, then had people using that information to control her.
That's a good theory. Blackmail seems a prevalent element, especially with the footage of her going to an ATM under someone's control
@@johnhein2539 But then why would she only try to take out $60?
@@tekbarrier Possibly to see if she had any access to the account?
I've done the same at times...but it doesn't fit for a financial balckmail. Perhaps for something more nefarious.
@@spiritmatter1553 Great theories re she may havae done something terrible. If it wasn't by choice I hope she finds peace one day.
sounds like the girl who went missing might have had a psychotic break and started having delusions of being followed which is why she did not want to share with anyone for fear of them also being involved with whoever she thought was out to get her, it might have been triggered by the stress of traveling
That's my theory as well
I was thinking that too, especially how no suggestion was "as awful" as what she was going through is in line with psychosis episodes. Either way, it's a tragedy
This is exactly what I'm thinking with the whole looking over her shoulder, etc. Especially if people saw her happy later on.
100% what I was thinking as well. If she witnessed a crime or was assaulted, she would've immediately told police or at the very least her loved ones, it makes zero logical sense not to. However, if she had a psychotic break and started having delusions of being followed, she would be totally unable to explain why she was being followed, and by who or what. Then, fearing that she would be seen as "crazy" for her explanation, she decided to bottle it up. She probably had delusions of many people, or even entities were following her and terrifying her. Since she couldn't tell reality from delusion, she was unaware that whatever she was experiencing wasn't real. In the end, she probably decided to run away thinking that it would help. The strange clothing would be explained as well: many people who have schizophrenia or are suffering from psychosis will dress contrary to the weather (such as wearing heavy jackets in hot weather, or little clothing in the extreme cold). She likely realized in the end that nothing would help her lose the people/things following her, and ended up taking her own life, which would explain why sightings shortly after her disappearance stopped. This was all triggered by her move as psychosis can be triggered by stress in individuals who are already suffering with a mental illness. I'm thinking she jumped off a bridge since no body was ever recovered and she lived very close to a large river. I think this was very preventable, she showed all the signs of someone who is suicidal and the parents should have had her hospitalized and evaluated. Locking yourself in a room and refusing to talk to anyone is extremely abnormal and in line with a suicidal person. All around tragic situation and pretty sad that everybody is jumping to drastic conclusions of "disappearing" or being the target of a criminal organization instead of the more reasonable one of a mental health issue, especially in light of the overwhelming symptoms in line with a psychotic condition like schizophrenia.
Agreed. It seems like there are several missing person stories where someone is acting bizarre, then they are never heard from again… so potentially some undiagnosed form of psychosis? Like when that young man sprinted out of an airport and was never seen again.
In one case they actually found one of the missing victims several years later. He had suddenly ran out into a blizzard after consuming ridiculous amounts of sugar, went to the grocery store he worked at, then somehow managed to fall behind the dairy coolers into an almost inaccessible spot. It was never known if he had died when falling/climbing down into this crevice because if he had survived it’s likely no one would’ve heard him over the sound of industrial coolers. Also if they hadn’t renovated that store it’s likely he never would’ve been found. I always think of that case when hearing these stories as you have to wonder… what made this man climb up a wall behind a shelf of milk…? It seems logic can’t be applied to these cases if you want to find the end result as literally no one would’ve guessed that’s where he wound up.
That first case is so heartbreaking. That poor boy :(
Text messages in 1991?
The first story had to have been someone within the family or friend circle. The kidnapper knew too much about the family. Knew personal phone numbers, knew their financial situation, and knew that he had a stepmother and grandfather.
The first cellphone came out in 1973. By the year 2000 we were already up to mass consumer cellphones as that was 27 years later and 1991 would be 18 years after the first. Not sure how old you are or if you remember but like Computers that existed well before the 90's (late 1800's) not everyone had one because of the cost and society takes time to adopt new tech (especially back then) but they were around.
My mother had a pager in the 90's and a cellphone. I got my first cellphone around 2002-2003 but they were popular before that. For example, the Sidekick 1 was crazy popular and it's release date was 2001 and before that the black berry was crazy popular in 1999, they were essentially the Iphone or Samsung of their day, then came the 2, 3 etc. The push to talk chirp phones started in 1996 and got it's peak popularity around 2004. Just giving context to cellphone thing in 1991. I use to work in the cellphone industry, and I remember my childhood in the 90's growing up in New York.
If you had a cellphone prior to like 1998, you were rich, high middle class or did certain jobs where the company gave you one, or worked in the cellphone industry back then to show it off. Things really took off after 2000 and the more modern cellphone era. People don't realize this, but we just entered the "Smart phone" era not too long ago, it has not been as long as people think and technically the first smart phone prototype was in 1992. Smart phones took off around 2006-07, that's not even far from the 90's or 2000.
@@drjonesey5unless you count mechanical calculators, computers only existed after the 1930s or 40s
If we count mechanical calculaters one could make an argument of computers existing up to 1000 bc. Idk where you got late 1800s from.
@@drjonesey5 That's all fine and dandy, except that, the first text message was sent on December 3rd, 1992 by Neil Papworth. Your lesson on irrelevant facts about the history of technology doesn't really matter. It ain't possible that they were sending SMS text messages in 1991. Possibly, they mean they used alphanumeric pagers, but they were very limiting in message size, not convenient at all when trying to communicate specific detailed instructions.
Shut up mate, no one was texting in 91 you nob.@drjonesey5
@@iammine8117my bday lol now I feel really old.
The first case somewhat reminds me of the story of the Little Gregory, a terrible french case around the murder of a young child (Grégory Villemin), blackmail, family jalousies. It's still not solved today, almost 40 years later. Netflix made a fine series about it if you want to know more about it.
Thank you for your hard work!
Edit : The series is called "Who killed Little Gregory ?" I didn't mention it at first because I wasn't sure about the english title and then kinda forgot about my comment.
Oh, it was good, I binged it in a night! Or horrible, you know what I mean.. Easily the oddest true crime case I know, so convoluted, so many players and all of it so unexpected. Who kills 4yo kid without really any valid reason? I really hope it gets solved one day.
@@janemiettinen5176 Me too, it's such a cruel and heart breaking story...
@@janemiettinen5176 how many players were there
What's the title of this series?
@@Seinsmelled It was a big, extended family. Im just guessing here, but Id say about 20-35 relatives and their partners. Confusing, but mos def worth the watch. And they used a family tree to help us watchers grasp who they meant, it made it much easier
Marilyn's story seems consistent with other documented reports of psychotic breaks. Believing somebody was "out to get her" she fled without concern for her own well-being. My guess is that while fleeing, she ended up somewhere dangerous and was killed. Exposure to the elements, becoming lost, animal attack, I don't know. Was their any any official inquiry to her mental health?
Who are you asking? This isn’t a google search bar.
@@williamwinstrop3918 anybody who might know something that I don’t about it. Wow. Imagine that. Somebody knowing the answer!
@@MrMan-sy4ev What an asshole. I don't know what's wrong with people lately
I think she committed superfly.
Maybe like he mentioned in the video that she saw a violent crime and it might’ve triggered anxiety or a psychotic break like you said. My guess is as good as yours whatever happened or where she went
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Calm down
@@pvsweetypie they seem pretty calm to me 🤷♂️
I know, I genuinely get so excited every time I see him post a video!
Woah, just calm down already.
man these lazy videos keep getting more insane
I’m glad you covered the story of Marilyn Bergeron. It’s mainly been covered in the French media and by Quebec crime podcasts. Ive hardly found her case translated into English. I spend a lot of time in Montreal and ive been told there’s a lot of criminal/mafia activity there. The possibilities are endless for Marilyn’s case, but I definitely don’t believe she disappeared on her own. Poor girl. I Hope she’s okay.
What's funny is, I know nothing about Montreal except how to pronounce it properly and my very first thought was "mob-related." This definitely doesn't seem like a run of the mill "I saw a bad thing."
@@ninamason9001 nah I bet that the poor gal had a psychotic episode
I watched the film inspired by Lee Hyung Ho's case and it was so agonizing. The suspect toyed with the poor child's parents, fooled them into thinking their child was still alive, and fed on their despair to reunite with their son. The end of the movie confirming the sad ending of this case, as it has already reached its statute of limitations, broke my heart.
What is the name of the flim I would like to watch it
There's another great movie by Bong Joon-ho about unsolved serial murders in Korea called Memories of Murder. It's like Zodiac, the film is as much about the effect the investigation had on the cops leading it as it is about the murders themselves. A teriffic movie.
@@asjissus4392 sorry it took me long to reply. it's Voice of A Murderer.
@@davidlean1060 yes, good movie. Intense.
I think the uncle was involved in what happened to the boy tragically the most dangerous people can come from those within your inner circle
Like Rich Porter's brother case
Yes, this a sad self-evident truth.
You’re most likely to be murdered to by ur family or someone u know
Nothing like Lazy Masquerade Afternoons
Yes. He never fails to deliver. Always a good watch
It's 2:13 am here
I second that
Ha ha nice
Night 00:45
I feel so bad for the family that kidnapper went too far just for money this will haunted him forever in his miserable life.
What a terrible torture for the family but, unfortunately, in these cases the child is 'disposed' of right away.
I highly doubt someone like him even cares about it
I doubt it was just for money, the crime seems too cruel for that. If I were to guess, I would say it was a revenge or a sick sadist's doing.
@@ivyg6178 If it was just for money they wouldn't have killed the child immediately. This was plain sadistic torture
@@krthecarguy5150 Exactly my point :(
That first story was just so sad. How horrible for the child and his parents.
Marilyn's story makes me wonder if she got involved with someone powerful through her flight attendant's position, maybe she overheard something she wasn't supposed to know. Or maybe she was forced into a trafficking situation. Terrible that her parents may never know what became of her.
That's exactly what I thought. Even if she wasn't trafficked herself, she might have witnessed it or been involved somehow.
at the end of the movie Voice of A Murder, which is quite good tbh, the tapes of the calls are being played asking people to call the police if they recognise the voice. it's very chilling to listen to to them.
The last girl reminds me of that guy who fled the airport running suddenly to never be seen again, in her case it appears it was just slower...
I know the story you are talking about. I often think of it from time to time. It's so bizarre
What’s it called?
@@SadEyes1412 Lars Mittank is the name of the man.
I was thinking the same thing. Some sort of head trauma from an accidental in her time while in Montreal and suffering from delusions and memory loss
Marilyn was 24 at the time of her disappearance. People with schizophrenia endure the full brunt of the illness around the age of 25. Very possible this is linked to mental illness of some kind.
Case 1- I get the impression that the 'snake' may have also been a police officer. They were step ahead of the family and cops from the start.
Case 2- It's likely that she's still alive and in hiding. Though what drove her to that extreme remains a mystery.
I theorize the kidnapper was some disgruntled business partner who hated the father’s legacy or something.
I feel it was a officer too tbh
if he was a police officer i feel he wouldnt go to such extreme lengths just for money 😅 i think the uncle theory is more believable
If I remember well, someone said that Marilyn saw something so disturbing, she couldn't talk about it to anybody...I heard it in a documentary about her on a French tv channel here in Quebec.
Maybe she saw something demonic/paranormal and knew nobody would have believed her. Maybe she called the city awful, cause she discovered what some dark elites are doing in it. Maybe she was working and came in contact with powerful people and their disgusting parties and practises. The only way I would refuse telling something to the police or a therapist, would be if I would know nobody would take me serious anyway, or I wouldnt trust that this information is not reaching the people who told me to shut up. She might not have believed in what she witnessed herself before that and it threw her worldview off the rails and thats why she changed too.
@@calistafalcontail I could see her getting tangled up in some dark business, perhaps even involving trafficking, but that’s going out on a limb. It’s likely to be something relatively mundane like mental illness causing paranoia.
The QAnon stuff is delusional and frankly embarrassing. The whole Pizzagate thing is likely to have been a psyop meant to make discussion of shady business in “elite” circles look absurd, and gullible people like you took the bate. American suburban psychosis.
@@calistafalcontail Please go touch grass, for your own sake.
@@calistafalcontailI mean the elite kind of ppl definitely do shit like that, but I don’t think that’s what caused her to act like that. Btw you’ve seen the movie “Eyes Wide Shut” before, huh? lol. Amazing movie btw…
I was actually born and raised in Hawkesbury (it's pronounced Hawk's burry, not sure if that helps) and actually lived there at the time, around my late teens. Almost shit bricks when I heard you mention it!
Had to take another look at the photos and footage but, truth be told, I can't say that I recognize her. It was big for a small town but it's usually recognizable when a new face pops in.
What's weird to me is that I, at the time, was doing a co-op program, through my school, at the local English newspaper. I was also a newspaper distributor (paperboy, if you will) for a local French newspaper and I don't recall this story ever popping up in either publications.
I won't discredit the possibility of some form of foul play coming about here. Hawkesbury was (not sure if it still is, left in July 2010) a hotbed for bikers, particularly Hell's Angels, as the town lies in between Ottawa and Montreal, two major cities in Canada, with Toronto being a few hours drive past Ottawa. As such, Hawkesbury was frequented with drugs shipped through by the aforementioned bikers.
Not sure if this helps (and apologies for the long diatribe) but, if nothing, it might give some insight. Feel free to message if you'd like more info!
Has anyone from your area been talking about the missing woman? Cuz my friend is from Ottawa and he mentioned something about a frenzy that a rival sex trafficking ring could be lurking about.
I actually live in Ottawa these days (have for the last 12 years) and, apart from the broad story, I haven't heard much of it.
As I mentioned in my other comment, I've heard that the Quebec biker war in the 1990s was especially violent.
It's not a diatribe, it's a story, haha. I'm sure that the info is much appreciated.
@@musicinthewildwood I know but I always feel a little selfish when my comment becomes a frickin' thesis that could make university professors blush 😆
Lazy has gotten me through the darkest times. A few minutes to shut down and relax
Keep your head up, hope you have some better days soon! 🥺
Lazy, Be.Busta and my new horror RUclipsr I found, MrBallen, all have gotten me well through the pandemic
@@KoopaBOOEY I also listen to all of them. The voice is essential for me. I particularly enjoy B. Busta's, that I only discovered few weeks ago.
Let's read is pretty nice too. He also has a podcast, perfect for very long listen without draining the battery.
@@Guigui_82 I love let’s read. Joel’s voice is so calming and he’s pretty funny in his live streams.
@@KoopaBOOEY try That Chapter also, you seem to have the same taste in what you enjoy as I do and im sure you'll love him! He's very good at the cases he covers and also puts a little humour in there too!
As a Quebecois myself (and lived in both mtl and Saguenay) hearing about this and also Claude Poirier feels wild. I don't really remember this case though, I was only around 10. I've been in Montreal for about 6 years now, some places are deffinetly unsafe
J'avais même pas compris que c'était Saguenay haha j'essaie de trouver la ville depuis tantôt 😂
Same, I got chills when I realized he said Saguenay ahaha. I'm not used to hear cases from Quebec on these channels
Same. I’m in Montréal and I’ve never heard of this woman’s case.
@@justinenollet7711 yeah j'ai eu à faire un double take quand il a dit ça 😅
@@noemielvelrn1264 same, the only case we tend to hear of is Magnotta and even then they don't always specify where it happened
Marylin probably tried running away at first due to whatever she’d witnessed, but sounds to me like she ended up getting killed in the end. That would explain the early sightings of her, her dying her hair blonde to disguise herself, etc.
All of this could have been solved if she just told someone. Christ.
@@sfdko3291 if you were in fear you wouldn't probably speak so easily about telling someone
@@chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 Eh, considering that she was quite literally in the safe presence of her parents, boyfriend, and literally in her well-known house in a completely different place altogether. She seriously could have realized all of this and spit out whatever oh-so-terrible secret she had been keeping.
Furthermore, I’m not saying it’s not normal to feel fear, not at all. But I do say is not normal is not thinking rationally about your safety and the apprehension of the individual responsible; A very simple and reasonable solution would be to go out into an isolated and faraway area with zero risk of overhearing, especially through electronics and pour out whatever has been flowing through your heart and soul.
I mean, it’s literally at least the best option at such rate, at least comparatively so. Police will still be investigating either way, and you’re still at a risk of death for being a witness, at least PROVIDE some clues to bring justice to the crime done. But no, thanks to her childish and stupid mistake of lacking any momentary comprehension: she put herself in danger by separating herself from the only place safe to her, prevented any justice from being done, and more than likely, now others are at risk as well.
Just saying, is all, it’s certainly a thought.
@@reliableboi2847 as I've said when you are in fear of your life of any potential danger, you don't think clearly or logical at all
@@chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 And as I’ve said it’s certainly normal to feel fear under such trying circumstances, but I would at least expect that to… somewhat “fuel” the need of logical thinking of your safety and wellbeing.
That said, I would expect such paralyzing fear to prevent you from separating yourself from the location safest to you possible. Which is literally what she did.
That first story it literally broke my heart how can somebody be that cruel to a innocent child I hope whoever did that to that young boy is brought to Justice and tortured if they're still alive. if not I'll hope they're rotten in hell I cannot imagine what that boy went through I was a kid around the time this happen which makes it even more terrifying R.I.P. Lee Hyung-ho you did not deserve to have your life viciously tooken away like that I hope you're in a better place
@Te_legram.OverlordDVD what is it?
I would be so pissed if the police didn’t catch the person who kidnapped my son, not because they couldn’t, but because they stopped paying attention 3 hours after putting bait out.
The child was most likely already dead by then
I'm having a lazy Wednesday evening so it's perfect for a lazy masquerade video!
Rest In Peace to those that passed away. I hope the missing people are okay.
But their not okay tho that's like why their missing
@@Stopcommentingthesamecomments they're *
@@Stopcommentingthesamecomments Didn't you watch the end of the video? Some people disappear voluntarily and they're happier that way
@@poopieinmybuthole3379 omg I will there their ther"yee all over u
@@tekbarrier didn't u watch the end of the video she clearly wasn't ok
this guy can read your grocery list and you’d still get shivers
Yes but yo mama
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especially with this bidenflation.
First he went to the dairy section, and saw the price of eggs. After that, it was all…downhill.
@@tommyfraz. Just when he was about to leave the store, he was caught on CCTV as he ate one of the grapes he had purchased. The people looked on in sheer terror, as they witnessed his pants with the zipper down.
Marilyn’s case has always haunted me. I hope one day we can know the truth about what happened to her.
Same. She was so charming… It breaks my heart knowing she’ll never be found. I think she was followed.
@@feverdream__9 honestly reading something like that always feels weird
That last case reminded me of the case of Hannah Upp. She went missing 3 times and had no memory of the times whilst she was mmissing. She had dissociative fugue (probably not spelt correctly).
The uncle is probably the killer for the first one. He was able to take the boy because he was his uncle so he trusted him
Such compelling evidence. You should be a detective. Have you considered becoming a private eye?
@@pvsweetypie I have not. Where can I apply for that?
@@pvsweetypie Also that complement means a lot to me, thank you 🥺
@@MrSaurus bro he is joking
@@yousefharraz1170 Dang it. I wanted to become a private eye
If it was most likely his uncle that killed him I wonder if his mother was also in on his killing? Rip little guy 😢
Bro I love you having that picture as your avatar. I used to send that pic to all my friends in high school over 10 years ago lol
@@NIN1 lol what’s the story on that pic
@@Lost_Angeles its a freakishly pregnant woman with her husband holding her around the neck while aiming a firearm directly at the camera lol
@@NIN1 Lol it always made me laugh about how seriously cool he thought he looked and his wife was so proud 😂
@@NutsItsBerserkinTime LOL 😂
The second story definitely sounds like she's running from something she did rather than something done to her. Like other comments brought up, she might've inadvertently killed someone or gotten someone killed and ran away due to the guilt and fear of being found out.
The way she talked about the city (like she found out something dark about it and not like she did something bad) and the fact that she feels like she cant share what she has experienced or seen, makes me think it was something paranormal/demonic and dark and she doesnt wanna say it in fear of getting called crazy. She maybe struggled understanting it herself and cant fathom what exists in this world. Witnessing a ritual murder or getting tortured or knowing stuff about someone elite/powerful in that regard, make some unable to share it.
@@calistafalcontail Paranormal/demonic things don't exist.
@@calistafalcontailthis is literally so insensitive lmfao. we are talking about the real world here. if she believes saw something demonic then it’s clearly a mental health problem.
@@user-qv5sm5dw1v Bacteria and viruses are biological creatures which are part of nature.
Mythological beings like demons and ghosts are not.
Maybe Marilyn suffered a schizophrenic psychotic break. She was hearing voices that were traumatic ("so much worse.") and in her paranoia, she became convinced that she could trust no one and that someone was following her.
these stories are scary as they are important. Thank you for spreading awareness!!
18:12 I find this image so eerily haunting. The mystery of what that girl had gone through and what exactly she's looking at here is unnerving to think about.
Yess nothing like a cold rainy day and Lazy Masquerade videos 🤗
I will never understand the 'statute of limitations' thing, which pretty much doesn't exist here in the UK.
Wow Lazy doing a video about the Marilyn Bergeron disappearance! Thanks ❤️❤️❤️ I was friend with somebody in her family (a cousin I think) and they were so look-a-like… I was shocked when I discovered this story. Man I feel so much pain for her family 😔 I can’t wait until the day we find out what happened… if we do. I hope so.
Plein d’amour à la famille et aux amis si quelqu’un d’entre eux me lit ❤❤❤
Statute of limitations for a young boy's murder so the murderer will never be charged what a pathetic joke that is I've always hated the statute of limitations for serious crimes and this is exactly why there should be no limits placed on murder whatsoever and it needs to be completely abolished because its completely unjust to the victims of such crimes
Pretty sure in the US there are no statute of limitations on murder
Marilyn's case reminds me a lot of the case of Tami Lynn Leppert, regarding the possibility of witnessing a crime or being attacked.
Wow just glanced at that. She was so young. I hope she is alive.
i thought the same thing!
Me too
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There have been two stories that are almost identical to Marylins. I can't help but think about Emma Fillipoff and Kaelyn louder. In both cases each girl told close family and friends that they were dealing with something that was beyond their control they exhibited behavior suggesting they thought they were being followed and they'd all been seen after they'd gone missing by other people. Obviously kaelyn's body was found later on and it was suggested that it had been suicide but there were still circumstances that weren't exactly clear. In all three cases they all seem to be struggling with their mental health. Again it could be something they're dealing with that is an extenuating circumstance or it could be a psychotic break but unfortunately it sounds like we won't ever really know.
Emma Fillipoff immediately came to mind. I think that case is Canadian, as well?
@@GenXfrom75 yes and the creepiest thing about it is there have been reports that a guy went into a store and told the owner to take down her missing posters because she wasn't missing and that she was in fact his girlfriend. No one has been able to identify that guy. That has seriously creeped me out for years.
@@lesliemartin3 why do i feel like something fishy is going on in Canada?
i mean if these girls are similar to their cases, and ARE in canada. it really makes me feel like there's a group of people behind this.
I believe the RCMP are incompetent at times. If you simply Google how many times they have dropped the ball or even down right refused to act it will make you sick. Especially when it comes to indigenous women. Just check out the trail of tears or how many women who were found dead close to Edmonton.
@@Windermed Marilyn Bergeron disappeared from Québec city, QC., and Emma Fillipoff from Victoria, BC. Both cities are closer from Mexico than from each other. One is a french speaking city and the other is an english one. I don't think those events are related at all. Plus, there's no need to have a "group of people" to make two women disappeared: they are many serial killers who made 30ish victims all by themselves.
Marilyn's case made me think she's done something horrible to someone, not the other way around. She might've killed someone or something similar, and in that case, of course you cannot tell a single soul what happened. She could've fled to save herself. Not saying I know from experience, but when you feel guilt and fear for what you've done, Marilyn's behavior certainly represents the exact actions one might take
Marilyn's case sounds so much like a case of human trafficking. She reminds me so much of Natanalie Perez's case. Her reaction to being pressed about what happened in Montreal, the fact that she potentially was with someone when she disappeared having no personal ID on her, the secretiveness about her situation out of fear of whatever she was going through...There's a good chance she's still out there but cannot escape the situation she's in without personal ID. Even if she did have that, it wouldn't be the first time a victim of kidnapping/human trafficking remained with their captors even if they could "technically" leave. It's not that simple. Police are doing her a disservice by treating her as voluntarily disappearing without any solid evidence of this.
She has the right to privacy… what do you expect police to do? Bust down everyone’s door and conduct a forceful search of their homes!??
then thats her fault. if she got into something she should have told someone
Ahh hell no . If I had a daughter and ask her if she was raped or beaten and she said it’s much worse than that , you better bet she ain’t going nowhere till i found out what it is , not leaving the house not leaving the room not taking one step
That was my immediate thought too like r u kidding me
For real! I have 3 daughters and I swear NOT 1 OF THEM WOULD LEAVE
yeah i agree
i'd even go as far as to miss work if i had to if it meant that i could watch over my daughter and keep her safe until the proper authorities get involved
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I think Lazy Masquerade mixed up his info a little bit. All other articles I read about this case stated that she said that to her friend with whom she went to the party, not to her parents.
Well I'm never lazy for a new Lazy vid!
There's something about your videos that just appeal to me so hard :)
Awesome voice for narration too .
I fell asleep listening to Lazy last night and I have never had such vivid, colorful, WILD dreams like that before. Hahaha. Definitely beats traditional ASMR.
Same here! That and a couple of other horror narrators - a bunch of spooky bedtime stories told by soothing voices.
To me the second case just seems like she was someone undiagnosed with schizophrenia and/or bipolar disorder, it’s obvious at the very least her running away was voluntary and was clearly in a crazed state, but the vagueness in her details and extreme paranoia seems more like something that happened with in her own head than in real life.
You are very naive and clearly lacking in intellect
There should NEVER be a statute of limitations for murder.Period .
fun fact, the b roll of the snake you used in the first story is one of the most gentle derpy snakes you can have as a pet, they're the puppy dog of snakes and I had one in college who I loved dearly. it's a red tail boa , they'd only ever bite you on accident when you're trying to feed them bc they're goofy babies (don't ever give your snake live food unless you're alright with the live food possibly killing your pet by tearing it's eyes out ) I can't imagine what you'd have to do to one to get it to bite you for any other reason. just thought it was funny given the situation, the guy was referred to as the snake bc he was dangerous and easily deadly but the b roll used was the exact opposite type of snake. love, a snake nerd 🐍
The most intriguing case is by far Marilyn. It just leads to sooo many questions. Like it's endless . She could've accidentally saw something or did something. It can be mental health. I feel like we will never truly get real answers till she is found.
Man, I love your channel. You're very good at telling stories and using the proper visual cues for them to kickstart the imagination.
0:17 17 seconds in and you already got me screaming in fear, amazing stuff
Underrated comment, you got me giggling at 1 am
Lazy is my all time favorite channel, definitely helps me unwind listening to him narrate this stories
This just made my long shift at work bearable! Thanks Lazy!
I hear ya there
Hey lazy! Hope you and yours are doing well so far in 2023. Thank you for making such top notch content! It always makes my work days better ☺️
When I was studying abroad in Korea, my friend was speeding and slowed down before the speed check point. I asked if they had speed traps between the automated set ones and he told me no and that no one takes the police seriously in Korea. But on the other hand, when I had drank too much and had a bad reaction with my medication, the police stopped me and the man I was with 3 separate times to ask if he drugged me. My understanding from obtaining my Korean language minor and the cultural classes required for it is that the majority of the public distrusts the police in Korea and views them as incompetent.
Here's are the top three theories about what might have happened to Marilyn, in order of likelihood in my personal opinion (based on what we know, with help from other comments):
1. While in Montreal living alone in her apartment, she began to experience psychotic episodes. She began to realize that her mental health was deteriorating and it terrified her, she was becoming schizophrenic. This would be consistent because A) Her age is around the age this horrible disease begins to onset B) It would make sense for her to describe it as "worse" than being attacked, but not want to elaborate out of fear of losing friends and family to stigma and C) Apparently her psychiatrist had said she may require hospitalization. She didn't want to be alone in Montreal anymore so she moved back in with her parents, hoping it would help her feel "normal". It didn't, she left the house, walked the full 25k to buy that coffee, then perhaps took her own life. The following "sightings" were just coincidences in this scenario.
2. Marilyn herself committed, or was involved in, some sort of horrible crime. Perhaps she encouraged someone to try some drug, but that person ended up overdosing and dying because of her. Or something along those lines - she made a huge mistake that haunted her with guilt. Similar as above from here - she left Montreal to move back with her parents, couldn't get past it, and ran away from home. Only in this scenario, perhaps she lived and started a new life.
3. She fell victim to foul play either in the form of A) Somebody who was stalking her in Montreal, who followed her to Quebec City, but more likely B) A group of organized human traffickers whom she encountered in Montreal. She was in communication with them even when she moved back to Quebec as they were threatening her, and eventually coerced her to go with them after threatening her family and friends if she didn't comply. They drove her to the coffee shop, then she was taken to Ontario when she lives with her captors. In this scenario, she was indeed the woman who used that family's phone in Hawksbury - she was lightly dressed as she may have been forced to look "skimpy", and was drugged up, so she did not feel the cold.
It's really easy to be on the outside and hear a short video and think "Ah, that sounds like mental illness!"
But it's been over a decade since her disappearance and her most recent sighting was only last year. Most likely, she is still alive. "Psychotic breaks" and "episodes" are just that- they're episodic, not permanent. While delusions and paranoia are not uncommon among those with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, it IS exceptionally uncommon for it to cause people to disappear for decades at a time.
I also used to work professionally with people who have severe psychiatric disorders, and these people with such *severe* manifestations could not survive independently nor could they work. So, if Marilyn is still alive and supporting herself, she clearly has the cognitive faculties required for daily functioning...meaning her delusions are not debilitating. So, again, why would she need to disappear for a decade?
It really just doesn't line up. I'm not ruling it out, but I just don't think mental illness is the primarily culprit here.
My guess is that she herself was involved (perhaps involuntarily or accidentally) in some sort of crime.
I also don’t agree with the mental issue thing,also her parents tried to help her through therapy,so therapist would have found out about the things.and without diagnosis she can never survive alone hiding.
That theory is as good as any. How is some random girl from Quebec going to survive traveling through thousands upon thousands of miles of Canadian Wilderness without the mental facilities to take care of herself.
There’s literally so many cases of the exact same thing, someone suddenly starts acting strangely and secretive, then disappears. It’s absolutely paranoid delusions. Anything else is just conspiracy theorizing for entertainment value. There was no one after her and there was no crime. She probably fell farther into her mental illness after leaving and is living with a new identity, or went off somewhere alone and died.
Well obviously mental illness would not be the primary reason for her continued disappearance, just her initial one. I generally see people include two parts in the mental illness theory: the MI causing her to flee, and a bad actor or accident (or risk taking behavior, which is associated with MI) would have killed or rendered her unable to return to society. I think most people have enough common sense to know that just being mentally ill doesn’t cause complete amnesia
i’m sure if she is still alive and has schizophrenia, leaving it untreated will just make it worse. psychosis can occur with schizophrenic delusions but untreated (and even sometimes treated) schizophrenics still hear voices and experience delusions even if they aren’t in an episode.
The cops were 3-4 minutes late?!? How? How can you be that bad at your job that you're late to a known location and time?
This is a crazy theory, but what if the kidnappers had some of his accomplices dress as cops to watch over the family and purposefully botch the extraction
Supposedly the South Korean police are famously incompetent. I've watched loads of true crime stories from there where they're just a mess pretty much - I can't remember his name but I'm sure there was a serial killer in quite a small village who killed loads of people and eventually handed himself in after they never caught him for years despite him never even really trying to cover his tracks (wanted the notoriety I guess and was sick of them not catching him). What I've heard from South Koreans is basically the same - that they see their police as totally incompetent.
Ya know, I'm just thankful the true crime genre has become so popular. Because though you all are making some money doing the job. You all, also tell the victims story. And these victims NEED to be remembered. So thank you❣
For sure there is more to Marilyn's story than intentional disappearance
Marilyn's case has intrigued me the most because of the fact I am Canadian myself
It seems so off how someone can have such a quick shift in emotion
She seems to have a guilty conscience with the way she was acting and she committed something bad herself
Either way the story is really depressing and I hope the truth will finally be uncovered
That second story sounds like she either really witnessed something or she was starting to experience symptoms of some paranoia-based psychosis. And honestly there should be a law where the parents of a missing person could file it under a new category. This new category would be for situations where it is suspected that the missing person is suffering from psychosis and presents a danger to themselves or society if left alone by authorities. Like a mental illness equivalent of a welfare check but with the assumption that danger to self or the public is imminent unless proven otherwise.
I can't believe there's a statute of limitations on murder in Korea. There shouldn't be a statute on any violent crimes anywhere.
Right?! 💔
As of 2015 there is no longer a statute of limitations on murder in South Korea. It is also retroactive, thank goodness. 😊
@@louniece1650 so if they find the guy, he could be charged?
@@tekbarrier Yes. I'm so grateful that they changed the law and made it retroactive. No more time limitations whatsoever.
Japan also have a statute of limitations on murder. SMH.
Great that I can listen to the video before I head into work!
Love the content ♡
Always putting out amazing videos ^^
Oh my word! I can't believe one of our stories was narrated by Lazy! YaY! I am from Quebec, I remember this story. Well done Lazy! 🤩
I remember when the Marilyne Bergeron story was unfolding. My mom worked at the same radio station Claude Poirier worked at, it was crazy... wasn't that story also featured on Poirier's show "Qui a tué"? It's weird to hear stories that captivated my province on your channel
From the information given in the video I personally would suggest that the most likely explanation for the case of Marilyn Bergeron is that she herself did something in Montreal she couldn´t come to peace with, which made her decide to completely leave everything behind that makes her remember. She herself denies that she has been attacked in any way and, as said in the video, says that whatever it is all about is "much worse than that". There is always the possibility that she was victim of some group or person that threatened to follow her or to hurt someone if she speaks out about something she witnessed or experienced, but this to me seems too far fetched.
Based on her behaviour it is much more reasonable to assume that she is not a victim but guilty of something. She might have a very strong and heartwrenching feeling of guilt about what happened in Montreal, which is why she doesnt want to go back there and why it is such an struggle for her to speak about it. Also that she starts to emotionally crumble when her father asked her about someone hurting her doesnt have to mean that she was victim of SA or something on that line. Maybe it made her recall how she hurt someone which triggered the feeling of guilt? Because why would she very clearly deny any involvement of an aggressor or another person? If you truly were victim of something horrible that was done to you it may be that you wouldnt want to talk about the exact things that happened, but would you really make very clear, even to police, that there was no one else involved?
Also her disappearing makes much more sense if you see it as voluntary, instead of some kind of "fleeing from a persecuter" or something similar. She leaves her ID and everything else behind that could identify her and only takes her credit card with her so that she can withdraw money. Thats exactly what someone would do if the intent is to go missing. Her looking around on the recording from the ATM doesnt really suggest that she fears being followed. It just seems like a nerverous behaviour you would expect from someone who has the intent to leave their old life behind with all kinds of thoughts and fears racing trough ones mind.
Based on all that and that she labels whatever happened as "much more worse" than any type of assault makes me strongly believe that she may be responsible for someones death. Maybe she involuntarily killed someone in a struggle or by pure accident? That would explain her sudden change in behaviour and her disapperance, as she may fear the police finding out what happened or maybe she just wanted to start a new life out of shame. It may have seemed like the only reasonable way out for her.
But the question then would be why there is no link to her and a murder. Maybe the body has not been found or it was never linked to her? And why are there no witnesses to such an event?
But thats just speculation and I have no expertise to support my claim. It just explains her behaviour and all events very well in my eyes.
Feels much more likely that she was suffering from a psychotic episode honestly…
The way they described her as being dressed in high heels and a shirt and jeans in the middle of a frigid winter, and she just wanted to make one call that didn't connect, makes me think she's been trafficked and sold into prostitution, it's not uncommon for vulnerable girls to end up that way and it's possible whoever is trafficking her is who she was trying to call.
She could have been terrified of someone that did something really bad to her. She didn’t know how to talk about it and had a breakdown. Things do happen that way and others ways. We won’t know until she can tell us sometime it doesn’t work out that way. I wish her well
Ugh thank you for posting more. I’ve been watching/listening your videos over and over for years while doing errands or cleaning. I’m so glad you’re posting more content.
Glad to see consistency on this channel again Lazy you are one of the greats!!
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Lazy has been putting up some quality content as of late. Cheers buddy
I always use the reflection of the ATM machine to watch behind me and am always ready to react accordingly.
In much of the world, the statute of limitations for murder is disgusting.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the uncle that did this. That’s just insane to go after your own nephew..
Sounds like an "If we can't have him, no one can!" kind of thing. With a little "Plus I got debts to pay and some cash wouldn't hurt" mixed in. If the uncle/maternal family _was_ involved (and, from the sounds of it, they were), then it's absolutely despicable.
@@TheKillerqueen40 Sounds about right
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In the case of Marylin, I believe she did witness something of a criminal nature in Montreal related to organised crime. They then gave her an ultimatum, come and live with them and remain unharmed as long as she adapted to their lifestyles, or be killed because they couldnt let her go after what she had discovered. They would have demonstrated there abilities in tracking and other things before telling her to make a decision. She got her affairs in order and was extremely anxious and upset about having to completely change her lifestyle but she knew it would be far better than an early demise. Eventually she arrived at the couples house in Canada and attempted to contact these people to let them know she was at the location they told her they would meet her, and the landmark she asked about directions to was where she waited for them.
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The marilyn case is certainly intriguing, considering that the reason behind her behavior might have been because she killed someone or she was having a mental break. Both are very scary things to witness because nothing is more scarier than losing your sanity, which is the basis of life in general.
What she said did NOT sound like she killed someone or did anything herself...she witnessed something or was forced to do something. Maybe it was even paranormal or demonic and thats why she cant talk to anyone cause she feared being called crazy.
@@calistafalcontailI agree, also the only hint she gave to her parents and friend kind of sounds like something related with paranormal but who knows.
In the middle of a slow day at work?? And 27 minutes long? Hell yeah!
The first case sounds like there could be something dodgy going on with the police (The Snake knowing what was going on and the police botching the capture of him) but I could be wrong as I have a slight bias against the police
The first story broke my heart. I love true crime and have watched so many documentaries etc but that story really got to me. I’ll never understand how anybody could hurt a child.
I used to get so excited when I saw a new Nukes video posted, but I’ve slowly stopped clicking on his right away with the growing number of fake ghost videos that he adds in now.
Your videos have definitely taken that role for me! I’m still a nukes fan don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to show hate, and your videos have always been great, but lately they have been my go-to and I click as soon as I see a new video! ❤