FYI, the methods spoken about in this video for the RE-7B were fixed a while ago. This video does still explain how pretty much any top speed bug you ever see in the game works though.
Thank you so much for explaining this all, while some of us knew this information having it all in one video makes life easier for everyone. Keep up the awesome work, and can't wait until your next stream!
@@justinlynch3 5 years later, Rockstar's made the fix. Just limit the revs and make the gears go up really fast on hitting kerbs and bumps, a la, the Visceris and the patched cars in the Tuners update.
made a list of things id like to see added/fixed. whatdya think? Stunt races= winner based on placing + stuntcount(flips rolls, etc) Helmets in cars(allowed during race) Emblems appearing on cars without choosing it or even having the option(bug) Stock spoiler = no traction bonus, remove spoiler =traction bonus(makes no sense) Etr1 cardboard spoiler(stock spoiler flys off if u hit something) 7b/etr/tyrus tires bug Premium race payouts-podium/amount(100k, 40k, 20k) Tires and rims should be separate options Include stock rims for each vehicle Allow stock rim color change Cars stay dirty unless washed Rally races are actual rally, 1 car/time.best lap wins.
+balzarini51 its only with offroad stock tires though. and im not sure the offroad stock tires actually have proper physical properties since so much of the tire is already clipping anyway. i want them to make it so that stock vehicle tires are added to their class but i also want them to separate rims from tires so i could put like muscle rims inside offroad tires. i just feel like rim design and tire choice should be options and not a combo deal.
These glitches have happened, one would assume they would learn and do proper testing. It feels like there is no QA being done on any of these updates, which is just weird. Rockstar has released some broken stuff in the past, the GTA IV port for example, but with GTA V being mostly bugfree when it came out one could assume they learned a thing or two. It just baffles me how this is currently going on and it keeps repeating each update, how can humans be this inept??
On PC, my RE-7B reaches a top speed of 216 mph / 346 khm/h and I hope it won´t be patched cause I just love it! It´s the proper speed the RE-7B should run imho...
Wow. I really hope they're fixing this soon. I'm about to buy that sexy RE-7B but them offroad tyres are an insult. Thanks a lot for finding these kinda bugs and testing them throughoutly. Really, appreciate it.
Another quality Broughy video explaining just exactly what's going on with these cars. I still prefer if the glitch is left alone though. The cars are a lot more fun this way, and in a way this introduces some proper race tuning to the game rather than just "slap every performance part onto the car and be done with it forever".
I'd prefer a fix, the performance isn't consistent. Some people go way faster than others, even if all have the game running at 60fps. I'd rather see a car that is made to go that fast.
Honestly, you are such a good youtuber. You deserve way more subs than any of the big GTA RUclipsrs (Congrats on 80k subs btw) Just your content is always top quality and you actually care about your viewers, and sit down and take the time to explain things instead of just stating that there's something wrong. Just the time and effort you put into your videos is amazing, and I can't wait to see your channel grow even more.
Goddamn, that explains why I was having so much trouble controlling my RE-7B with stock tires. I thought there might have been a patch that made "custom" tires perform better, but nope, I was just going too damn fast and not really noticing it. Thank you so much!
During the whole video I was shaking my head in disappointment for the fuckery that is "racing" GTAV. Completely and entirely broken in almost every aspect of it. The only things you need to do to win is have one of the top cars with the right modifications on, push people off track and boom you're golden. Not even gonna bother anymore with this cancer of a mode, I'm better off shooting AI and just enjoy driving around.
I feel the same way, so I started changing, when I host the race, to non-contact. Usually the cheaters will leave! By the way, if you want a fair race in GTA on-line I am Not2muckinfuch. I'm still learning, so u may beat me. But, I would rather be beat in a race, then shot in the streets!
Fantastic video as usual, Broughy. Your fact finding is a breath of fresh air among the wealth of hearsay and myths rampant in the GTA community. very informative!
+. Broughy promised he would do the laptime testing for the tug when F&F came out, but he still hasn't uploaded it. It has become a bit of a joke really.
Haven't heard of any inside jokes but pretty sure its just that the fact that the TugBoat is so fucking slow that it's taking Broughy forever to even get around the track in the water. Also possible that the corners are too sharp for the tugboat to turn
I've played GTAO for over 1kH now and honestly, I had no idea about how they worked these top speeds and what was up with the strange 122 limit on most land vehicles, this video has enlightened me massively and although I knew about the slamming to increase the speed (because on every GTA vehicle video there's someone chatting about the slammed Rapid GT) and I had no idea it was to do with rear suspension compression and that tires actually did something and that low profile tires are actually beneficial to top speed! I will now burn the old effigies and proclaim you my new savior and leader of my pagan cult
The new RE-7B costs 2.5 mil!!!, i'm sorry but if have to pay that much for 1 car I want it to be able to reach 140+ mph. Good video btw, I like the amount of effort you put in your videos and it's certainly a lot more than Boss, Nought or Saints. They deserve your subs, you deserve their subs.
it does reach 147mph i was going in downtown los santos over bumps and i think i got a higher top speed, i swear the signs were flying past me... then i hit a car
It's a racing car not a top speed car if you race the re 7b against any car with a higher top speed you have a good chance of winning unless you can't drive or it's a race without turns
You're one of the top guys, I imagined guys like you, Frinke- and rzodkiew would all benefit from it :) I just don't understand how it hasn't made its way onto the Fact Finding series yet ... it's like, literally the #2 "How To Go Faster on GTA" after kerb boosting.
I feel the purpose of the downforce multiplier might have to do with the suspension to make those cars better on those tracks, but I could be crazy. Either way though, what you said made perfect sense and I'm glad you made this video! :)
That was incredibly informative. Thanks for taking the time. Now that have a grasp on how this works, I can make better choices about the tires I use for the new cars.
I placed the after market spoiler on my RE7B and all other cars following the re-release of your testing video. Fortunately, I was at work the day you originally tested the cars and didn't immediately pull the trigger. However, unlike normal, I left the stock tires on my RE7B due to the thickness of the sidewalls of them and my preference of their overall appearance. Hopefully once this glitch is patched the stock tires will perform well comparatively traction wise to other tires with thicker sidewalls.
Oh, by the way, thank you for the great work with your videos. I appreciate the facts and more appropriate testing versus wild speculation and 1 kilometer drag strip tests.
Well, they've obviously failed if that is the case since the RE-7B is one of the LEAST smooth cars over jumps. It constantly overshoots jumps if you jump at full throttle, and will even hit the ceiling of a tunnel and explode on the East Coast track.
Thanks dude. I realize the effort you put into this and tbh you deserve over 200000 subs.!!! Thank you for the contributions to the online racing community.
I know, it looks fucking retarted weaving over the whole road just to get some filthy boosts. Unfortunately it can't be patched, it's built in the engine of the game and they'd have to completely remake the game :(
+Bertomobil i feel like GTA racing would never be the same if they patched it. At this point, everyone is used to it. It would kill all the laptimes aswell
anadraps Well true most people are used it now, BUT with time it will be a much better and pure experience than before. And quite frankly who cares about the old laptimes when you get a much cooler experience than before :p
+Bertomobil hmm... I would agree to disagree with that. Every single living soul in the racing community knows about the boosting. It wouldn't make much of a difference in experience if they patched it. And it's so cool to just weave in and out of shit
Do you know there are other people with way more followers that tell utter crap ! That pisses me off! People believe these guys and there tests are so flawed. I recommend your channel to everyone!
Since we spend so much time landing of jumps now whats the best way to land with the new supercars, front wheels, back wheels or all wheels? anyone tested this yet !!
it's always been best to land a jump with the back tires hitting the ground first. You'll get a compression or "curb boost" doing it that way. Just don't let the back bumper hit the ground.
Can you upload a comparison between the RE-7B with Carbon Wing + Stock Tires and Stock Wing + Offroad Tires? I'm really curious how big the difference is
Thanks Broughy. Very good analysis. I wonder is rockstar will delete all laptimes set with the new cars when a patch comes out. If they don't do that we won't be able to beat our own laptimes on the tracks we drove it with XD.
Broughy, remember your statement about Rockstar playing RUclipsrs like DatSaintsFan and MrBossFTW like bitches? This could be the work of Rockstar. They know these RUclipsrs do drag races, and judge only off top speed. Which means the RUclipsrs and their fanbase are now fooled into thinking that the new cars are the fastest, therefore pushing microtransactions (Shark Cards). They can cover it up by claiming that they were glitches.
Wow, so new cars have a downforce Multiplier? that explains why i'm getting a lot of boost from riding walls in the new stunt races (I mean in the 360 loops and the tubes that have a turning factor to the car), Every time i get through them with the new cars, they have a pretty considerable boost to the speed. The most noticeable one, is the 360 loop, where I should be exiting at roughly the same speed, but get out of them at quite a higher speed than which i got into them (probably related to kerb boosts too). Thanks for your greatly explained videos, I think you understand gta v cars more than rockstars develepors do! XD
Why old gen? Next gen is 30fps too. Instead caps fps at 30fps, I can also say 60fps. In other words, when playing racing on PC, It would be good that the game limits the fps at 60 fps as MAX. Would be ideal. This prevents players "who think they are good drivers" reach you in a straight (same car) when you've worked better than them taking the curves of the track. It's fair? I think it is the most balanced and healthy for everyone. Anyone who disagrees I think he has a problem. Greetings. (Sorry for my english. I use a translator lol)
Amazing in-debth video. Even though it is long, it does not include any pointless banter and it actually helped me to understand this matter very well. You just earned yourself a subscriber sir.
Broughy said in stream that his internet died on the last stretch of testing the Tug. I heard him say the Tug completely ruined the Planes class and overtook the Hydra.
I dont know why I always need to smile when i watch ur videos. I guess i really enjoy proven facts. Also I really like how much effort u put in just to make it right. It makes me happy to see how ur channel is growing (i probably watched almost every video since the gta 5 pc release). I never was interested in serious racing, i just rarely played any racing games. But then i discovered ur channel and started being intrested in getting better at racing. After the video there never is a question in my head because everything is covered correctly, and thats what i love so much. So I really hope that your growth continues.
I did a Plummet stunt race last night in the 811 and got my highest land speed by a large amount. 262 mph. It was the part where you go down the giant mountain and I hit a couple slipstreams. When I hit that ramp at the end it nearly vaulted me over that whole landing section on the left/right of the road. Which is absurd. Before my record was only like 200 lol.
I had a "fortunate" crash with the RE-7B and the left back tire was even more compressed. Got on 211,3 mph on Xbox One. Surprisingly, the traction didn't suffer as badly as I imagined. If you could do this on purpose, WR on high speed tracks would be a piece of cake.
Can u do a video like this? Example: test an upgraded t20 vs a stock proto. I would love to see this and it could become a great series. U could only do the top cars or do all of them. Thanks for the great vids over the past couple years!!😃
I have an 811, and at the front was deformed, and the front was kicking up as it was scraping the ground and I reached over 160mph on console, I'm like "Ohhh shit!!"
The re-7b is a monster, I just brought one the other day, and whilst I was playing last night I took it on a certain strip of road which had some down hill in the city and then continued on flat, considering my car was slightly bashed from many crashes, had max trans, engine turbo, spoiler, suspension, and no armor, I registered a 196mph top speed on ps4, going up and down the same strip of road i was averaging 160-170mph. It was accelerating at a ridiculus rates up hill and down hill, and I have to admit I was baffled at what was happening.
Dude first - your content is very technical and very explanatory and sensational, second - you can make a more updated video using as an example the lm-87, because these days I saw an lm-87 that arrived in front in the races with a minute and a half difference from the second place this with all of us using devest eight and torero XO.
And my friends and I played against this guy in more than 15 races already and all that he participates go from lm-87 and wins all always with a lot of advantage of the second place.
@@johnyjjsiqueira4198 the LM87 is a second a lap faster than the XO around broughy's testing track, and it isnt too far away from those two's top speed, so the driver has probably maximised that car better than others
So if I get this right: 1. the Slamvan has been patched on console but is still broken on pc 2. the 811 has not been patched on any platform yet (and reaches even more ridiculous speeds on pc than on console) 3. the new Supers are also broken at the moment with a specific setup. Is that all correct? You seem pretty confident that R* should patch this quickly, but if the 811 is still bugged I'm not sure they still care about the issue. And if it's anything like the Slamvan Custom, it may not change much for pc players. Oh well. Anyway, thanks for going over the whole issue, and congrats for hitting 80k subs :)
Hey, Broughy. just a quick tip: do some research about the parts of the car youre going to talk about. it was kind of confusing to understand and i think that if you use names like wheel arches insted of the rear of the car, people will understand better. love your videos! :)
in the RE-7B with high end tires it makes it very difficult for stunt races as it goes so fast that it clears a large majority of the jumps which can be very annoying on some tracks
Great Video, I love racing Lucky Jims Rallycross with the Audi Quattro. If you could make another great rally track like that it would be great, I know that you have made another rally race but it would be great if you could make another rally race for the Audi Quattro like Lucky Jims Rallycross. Thanks, keep up the great job.
Good explaination starting from the basics, but I think that one thing is kinda missing: A direct comparison between the RE-7B on console and the bugged version on PC. From what I know it can easily vary between 160mph (read on the speedometer, which I know is not acurate, but other people max it out at 180) to 200mph (195 being reported using the same method you have for calculating your top speeds). This thing is not only stupidly fast (which is kinda funny to drive, if it wasn'T for the worse handling) it also is pretty inconsistent. But right now I'd be happy if R* would just fix the editor they f-ed up with the last dlc.
Thanks again for a great video. I have a crucial question. Is kurb boost and fps defining how quick you are, ever gonna be fixed? Or they are "root" of game's physics?
Cant they just try to fix the suspension problem? Or in generall find a trick or something to stop the cars from taking advantage of the root kurb boost (which creates the fps apsect too)? I mean for gods sake this issue is ridiculus, and they make it even worst with cars like 811 or Annis.
DOWN-FORCE, I used that word 2 days ago, I knew I was right. I learn it modding the game actually... Since the start I understood that these cars are faster because we are supposed to make loops and stuff with them. When modding, I remember that if I add down-force, I can fly with the vehicles when upside down, just like you can do with Bikes and Motorcycles. I am sure about it, I knew it since the start, they made it for the stunts
Conversation from NODO PC: - RE-7B is amazing!!! New WR On the GOH: 2:00:105 - LOL 1:48))) its crazy! - RE-7B it's crazy car :) - it is wrong when on stock wheels it is much faster than for example on off-road tires - That's why I have 2:00 and you 1:48 lol i must change wheels.....
I honestly don't think they should take it out because it gives the option to drastically change the cars set up just like in real life. For more top speed you sacrifice cornering and vice versa. It gives a sense of variety even though we all are using the same car
I've noticed that the wheels start going into the ground even with a totally stock car when you're going at speed- so I don't think your theory of the custom spoilers activating this stat pans out. Maybe they increase it, or it's playing into the other stats that a spoiler increases (horizontal/frontal traction stats) or something entirely unrelated and weird that we don't know about. Good video, all the same.
Yes they do, but they're not being pushed down with enough force to cause this bug to appear. Only when you add the custom spoiler (and add more downforce) does the back end start to make contact with the rear wheels
Let's hope MrBossFTW sees this and makes a video about it. That way there is a bigger chance R* will see it and fix it. I also hope he quotes Broughy and tells everybody to go and subscribe.
PCpro Gamer you may lower the settings but no one else will. Therefore you are at a disadvantage. Especially if you pc can run anything more than 30 fps
FYI, the methods spoken about in this video for the RE-7B were fixed a while ago. This video does still explain how pretty much any top speed bug you ever see in the game works though.
Also the same to the classic Visceris right?
Thanks for the update.
900r doesn't seem to be working
Thank you so much for explaining this all, while some of us knew this information having it all in one video makes life easier for everyone. Keep up the awesome work, and can't wait until your next stream!
So what if R* did a patch that entirely wiped out the effect of curb boosting? So hitting a curb doesn't give a engine rev, hence no extra speed.
you would find out who the real racers were as it would be down to lines and not curb boosts
@@justinlynch3 5 years later, Rockstar's made the fix. Just limit the revs and make the gears go up really fast on hitting kerbs and bumps, a la, the Visceris and the patched cars in the Tuners update.
Broughy! Can you stop being such a beast? Thank you
Haha, well thanks :)
+Broughy1322 I only have one question. For the new stunt races would you use the stock tyres or the off-road tyres?
+Broughy1322 In other words is it better to have the high top speed or the easier cornering?
You want the top speed
+Broughy1322 so what set up did you get the best times on your truck? Carbon tail with stock tires or something else?
made a list of things id like to see added/fixed. whatdya think?
Stunt races= winner based on placing + stuntcount(flips rolls, etc)
Helmets in cars(allowed during race)
Emblems appearing on cars without choosing it or even having the option(bug)
Stock spoiler = no traction bonus, remove spoiler =traction bonus(makes no sense)
Etr1 cardboard spoiler(stock spoiler flys off if u hit something)
7b/etr/tyrus tires bug
Premium race payouts-podium/amount(100k, 40k, 20k)
Tires and rims should be separate options
Include stock rims for each vehicle
Allow stock rim color change
Cars stay dirty unless washed
Rally races are actual rally, 1 car/time.best lap wins.
offroad tires are physically smaller diameter theb stock. most noticeable on merrywether mesa and trophy trucks
+balzarini51 its only with offroad stock tires though. and im not sure the offroad stock tires actually have proper physical properties since so much of the tire is already clipping anyway.
i want them to make it so that stock vehicle tires are added to their class but i also want them to separate rims from tires so i could put like muscle rims inside offroad tires. i just feel like rim design and tire choice should be options and not a combo deal.
If I wot 1st in a race and lost it because somebody did flips and I didn't I would be pissed.
its a stunt race. not a standard race... the fact you arent judged by stunts defeats the whole purpose of calling it a stunt race.
I like the car stays dirty unless washed idea.
These glitches have happened, one would assume they would learn and do proper testing. It feels like there is no QA being done on any of these updates, which is just weird. Rockstar has released some broken stuff in the past, the GTA IV port for example, but with GTA V being mostly bugfree when it came out one could assume they learned a thing or two. It just baffles me how this is currently going on and it keeps repeating each update, how can humans be this inept??
how can humans be inept? the same way code can be corrupted
Broughy - I've followed your work for a while now & am constantly amazed at the level of detail you guys put into this research.
+1
Thanks! :)
On PC, my RE-7B reaches a top speed of 216 mph / 346 khm/h and I hope it won´t be patched cause I just love it! It´s the proper speed the RE-7B should run imho...
Wow. I really hope they're fixing this soon. I'm about to buy that sexy RE-7B but them offroad tyres are an insult. Thanks a lot for finding these kinda bugs and testing them throughoutly. Really, appreciate it.
Another quality Broughy video explaining just exactly what's going on with these cars.
I still prefer if the glitch is left alone though. The cars are a lot more fun this way, and in a way this introduces some proper race tuning to the game rather than just "slap every performance part onto the car and be done with it forever".
I'd prefer a fix, the performance isn't consistent. Some people go way faster than others, even if all have the game running at 60fps. I'd rather see a car that is made to go that fast.
Rockstar should just make all [sports/super] cars faster already.
Honestly curb boosting in these Premium races with randoms is the best thing ever 😂
Yeah, I love randoms saying "What the fuck are you doing? You can't drive or what?" and their shock when I overtake them. I'm such a scum
+Six Pac I know it's great especially when you're on a straight in a 9F with a massacro right in front of you and you still fly past 😂
The best part is when they say you're using a hacked car lmfao
Honestly, you are such a good youtuber. You deserve way more subs than any of the big GTA RUclipsrs (Congrats on 80k subs btw) Just your content is always top quality and you actually care about your viewers, and sit down and take the time to explain things instead of just stating that there's something wrong. Just the time and effort you put into your videos is amazing, and I can't wait to see your channel grow even more.
Thanks I appreciate that so much :)
this explains why when i stanced my 811 if was jiggling everywhere but was like a fucking jet man.
Goddamn, that explains why I was having so much trouble controlling my RE-7B with stock tires. I thought there might have been a patch that made "custom" tires perform better, but nope, I was just going too damn fast and not really noticing it. Thank you so much!
Happy to help!
During the whole video I was shaking my head in disappointment for the fuckery that is "racing" GTAV. Completely and entirely broken in almost every aspect of it. The only things you need to do to win is have one of the top cars with the right modifications on, push people off track and boom you're golden. Not even gonna bother anymore with this cancer of a mode, I'm better off shooting AI and just enjoy driving around.
I feel the same way, so I started changing, when I host the race, to non-contact. Usually the cheaters will leave! By the way, if you want a fair race in GTA on-line I am Not2muckinfuch. I'm still learning, so u may beat me. But, I would rather be beat in a race, then shot in the streets!
MidnightChampion The premium races aren't as bad because it's non-contact and you get a nice reward if you win
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Find friends.... Our crew is a fair racing crew. Dont curb... Create races... Race clean... Ps4..
Kraft Zero in regular race lap time,is very bad,but in stunt races,if you can drive it without spinning out or crashing,you can demolish everyone
Fantastic video as usual, Broughy. Your fact finding is a breath of fresh air among the wealth of hearsay and myths rampant in the GTA community. very informative!
Thanks I appreciate that
Does the glitch work on the tug? I hear it just finished the third corner.
I keep seeing these "tugboat corner" comments, was it a stream moment that I missed?
+. Broughy promised he would do the laptime testing for the tug when F&F came out, but he still hasn't uploaded it. It has become a bit of a joke really.
Haven't heard of any inside jokes but pretty sure its just that the fact that the TugBoat is so fucking slow that it's taking Broughy forever to even get around the track in the water. Also possible that the corners are too sharp for the tugboat to turn
I simply can't test the tugboat because I can't get it into a race (due to trainers not working any longer on PC) But it has become a running joke :)
Be patient it's still going round the track
I've played GTAO for over 1kH now and honestly, I had no idea about how they worked these top speeds and what was up with the strange 122 limit on most land vehicles, this video has enlightened me massively and although I knew about the slamming to increase the speed (because on every GTA vehicle video there's someone chatting about the slammed Rapid GT) and I had no idea it was to do with rear suspension compression and that tires actually did something and that low profile tires are actually beneficial to top speed! I will now burn the old effigies and proclaim you my new savior and leader of my pagan cult
Haha
The new RE-7B costs 2.5 mil!!!, i'm sorry but if have to pay that much for 1 car I want it to be able to reach 140+ mph.
Good video btw, I like the amount of effort you put in your videos and it's certainly a lot more than Boss, Nought or Saints. They deserve your subs, you deserve their subs.
it does reach 147mph i was going in downtown los santos over bumps and i think i got a higher top speed, i swear the signs were flying past me... then i hit a car
It's a racing car not a top speed car if you race the re 7b against any car with a higher top speed you have a good chance of winning unless you can't drive or it's a race without turns
Max Anderson There's a glitch with the spoiler upgrade and the stock tyres make you go faster up to 150mph which is bloody good if yo have it
80k! Well deserved man glad your chanel's quality is just as good now as when you started. Thanks for all ya hard work.
Cheers! :D
Well explained Mr. Broughy, but I am yet to hear you utter the words "short-shift" on this channel!
You're one of the top guys, I imagined guys like you, Frinke- and rzodkiew would all benefit from it :) I just don't understand how it hasn't made its way onto the Fact Finding series yet ... it's like, literally the #2 "How To Go Faster on GTA" after kerb boosting.
Broughy refers to it as the Mid-Drive Speed Boost. Check Discussion #42 and Fact Finding #14
we all know it does nothing Cirrus so there is no point covering it
+ScourgeOTG short shift and mid drive are two totally different things.
Fucks sakes ishan xD
broughy I look forward every day to watching ur videos. you gave me the chance to become a better racer and sound smarter to my friends. thanks m8
You're very welcome! Cheers :)
R* really needs to see this video and finally fix Grand Theft Auto Onlines suspension bugs, thanks for the informative video : )
You're welcome :)
I feel the purpose of the downforce multiplier might have to do with the suspension to make those cars better on those tracks, but I could be crazy. Either way though, what you said made perfect sense and I'm glad you made this video! :)
Cheers!
I second, when is tugboat lap time coming?
That was incredibly informative. Thanks for taking the time. Now that have a grasp on how this works, I can make better choices about the tires I use for the new cars.
Glad to help :)
i always thought that the omni turned funny midair
the downforce multiplier explains this!
Fantastic video, answered so many of the 'what the...?' questions my friends and I had about cars and their performance!
Glad to help!
The broughy cam sometimes look like a broughy photo haha! The amounts of focus! @ 15:03
Thanks man, I came here from a reddit recommendation, have not been let down at all! Keep it up!
Thanks! :)
congrats on 80k subs
Thanks :)
wow thanks for explaining this. I always knew racing was broken in gta buy not why.
Nice video as always, thanks for explaining all of this
I placed the after market spoiler on my RE7B and all other cars following the re-release of your testing video. Fortunately, I was at work the day you originally tested the cars and didn't immediately pull the trigger. However, unlike normal, I left the stock tires on my RE7B due to the thickness of the sidewalls of them and my preference of their overall appearance. Hopefully once this glitch is patched the stock tires will perform well comparatively traction wise to other tires with thicker sidewalls.
Oh, by the way, thank you for the great work with your videos. I appreciate the facts and more appropriate testing versus wild speculation and 1 kilometer drag strip tests.
Think they put the downforce multiplier for the stunt races to make the cars smooth over jumps.
I tend to win the majority of stunt races in my Osiris
PTMxCh00bX osiris is pretty low and has very good traction around the corners. Same as the etr1. But the osiris doesn't have nearly as much wheelspin
+Bhupinder Sidhu new cars are rwd
Well, they've obviously failed if that is the case since the RE-7B is one of the LEAST smooth cars over jumps. It constantly overshoots jumps if you jump at full throttle, and will even hit the ceiling of a tunnel and explode on the East Coast track.
Mattoropael I didnt purchase that one coz it looks shit in my opinion 😂
Thanks dude. I realize the effort you put into this and tbh you deserve over 200000 subs.!!! Thank you for the contributions to the online racing community.
Thanks I appreciate that :)
Is there a rant incoming?
Ur welcome btw.
Curb Boosting is stupid, so unrealistic. Hope it gets patched.
I know, it looks fucking retarted weaving over the whole road just to get some filthy boosts. Unfortunately it can't be patched, it's built in the engine of the game and they'd have to completely remake the game :(
+Bertomobil i feel like GTA racing would never be the same if they patched it. At this point, everyone is used to it. It would kill all the laptimes aswell
anadraps Well true most people are used it now, BUT with time it will be a much better and pure experience than before. And quite frankly who cares about the old laptimes when you get a much cooler experience than before :p
+Bertomobil hmm... I would agree to disagree with that. Every single living soul in the racing community knows about the boosting. It wouldn't make much of a difference in experience if they patched it. And it's so cool to just weave in and out of shit
3 years later still not patched
4:50 watching all those guys crash at the same time made me lol so hard
22:46 "AEOAEOAEOAEO"
Do you know there are other people with way more followers that tell utter crap ! That pisses me off! People believe these guys and there tests are so flawed. I recommend your channel to everyone!
Since we spend so much time landing of jumps now whats the best way to land with the new supercars, front wheels, back wheels or all wheels? anyone tested this yet !!
it's always been best to land a jump with the back tires hitting the ground first. You'll get a compression or "curb boost" doing it that way. Just don't let the back bumper hit the ground.
yep for all cars except the Osiris. maybe the new supercars are the same
Awesome video as always Broughy, keep up the good work mate.
Just to make sure, is offroad tires and carbon parts a must in my racing cars?
Thanks
Off-road wheels yes if they help the car (check the relevant video link in the description). Carbon parts have no effect.
Can you upload a comparison between the RE-7B with Carbon Wing + Stock Tires and Stock Wing + Offroad Tires? I'm really curious how big the difference is
Or can you tell me the different lap times?
Stock Wing + Offroad tyres yields the same results as shown here from "Most Other Setups (True Top Speed)" section. Comparison is the same.
And if you want lap times then Stock wing would be multiple seconds off the pace due to lack of added grip for cornering speeds
+Broughy1322 Thanks for the quick response :D
+Broughy1322 which setup would you recommend
Thanks Broughy. Very good analysis.
I wonder is rockstar will delete all laptimes set with the new cars when a patch comes out. If they don't do that we won't be able to beat our own laptimes on the tracks we drove it with XD.
They probably won't XD
Broughy, remember your statement about Rockstar playing RUclipsrs like DatSaintsFan and MrBossFTW like bitches? This could be the work of Rockstar. They know these RUclipsrs do drag races, and judge only off top speed. Which means the RUclipsrs and their fanbase are now fooled into thinking that the new cars are the fastest, therefore pushing microtransactions (Shark Cards). They can cover it up by claiming that they were glitches.
Ugh... What did Dan thought before? Someone get a petition to RE-HIRE Leslie Benzies back to RockStar!!
that's good then cos it means rockstar are making money of his fanbase lol GG rockstar
Just to let you know that your presentation was brilliant.
Well thanks I appreciate that! :)
So that's why the car bottom clips through the ground when you pick up speed.
Exactly
Wow, so new cars have a downforce Multiplier? that explains why i'm getting a lot of boost from riding walls in the new stunt races (I mean in the 360 loops and the tubes that have a turning factor to the car), Every time i get through them with the new cars, they have a pretty considerable boost to the speed. The most noticeable one, is the 360 loop, where I should be exiting at roughly the same speed, but get out of them at quite a higher speed than which i got into them (probably related to kerb boosts too). Thanks for your greatly explained videos, I think you understand gta v cars more than rockstars develepors do! XD
INB4 rockstar caps the PC framerate to 30 to balance racing.
This is absolutely necessary.
+sainters If you really think 30fps is the way to go, go play on PS3/360. Think I'll stick to uncapped framerate thanks.
Executortus look at his profile picture.
Why old gen? Next gen is 30fps too. Instead caps fps at 30fps, I can also say 60fps. In other words, when playing racing on PC, It would be good that the game limits the fps at 60 fps as MAX. Would be ideal. This prevents players "who think they are good drivers" reach you in a straight (same car) when you've worked better than them taking the curves of the track. It's fair? I think it is the most balanced and healthy for everyone. Anyone who disagrees I think he has a problem.
Greetings.
(Sorry for my english. I use a translator lol)
Lmfao imagine if they did. "Ayo peps hav ben reicing wei to quik so we chenged it ayo."
Awesome video giving a good explanation of this whole situation, keep up the good work!
Fuck finding is always a g
Amazing in-debth video. Even though it is long, it does not include any pointless banter and it actually helped me to understand this matter very well. You just earned yourself a subscriber sir.
Cheers! Glad to help :)
it's funny how you now have almost 100k subs I remember back when you were around 20k-30k wild how much you've grown over the past couple of years
When's the next testing video? Kappa
great video Broughy you covered everything that I needed to know about these topspeed bugs
ooh yay
God damn it
Weren't you previously "MrClickbaitFTW" or is that someone else?
We all knew broughys channel was gonna blow up and it's starting to
When is the tug boat lap time?
its still on the first corner.
DNF
well by now the tug on the second turn of broughys test track😂
+Brandon Burslie nah, just got news that it's. On its 3rd and it's about to finish the 3rd lap
Broughy said in stream that his internet died on the last stretch of testing the Tug. I heard him say the Tug completely ruined the Planes class and overtook the Hydra.
I dont know why I always need to smile when i watch ur videos. I guess i really enjoy proven facts. Also I really like how much effort u put in just to make it right. It makes me happy to see how ur channel is growing (i probably watched almost every video since the gta 5 pc release). I never was interested in serious racing, i just rarely played any racing games. But then i discovered ur channel and started being intrested in getting better at racing. After the video there never is a question in my head because everything is covered correctly, and thats what i love so much. So I really hope that your growth continues.
Thank you so much I appreciate that! :)
Broo-ggy how do i install ze kerb-boosts in mi adder???!!!111
Lel
ez just gitta git gud
U bui super rims and ram kn0bs of ze track!!!!!!11111111111111111
+PCpro Gamer no u bui dollar rim u stooppid
Quentin Rosen U bui chrom color too scumbag!
I did a Plummet stunt race last night in the 811 and got my highest land speed by a large amount. 262 mph. It was the part where you go down the giant mountain and I hit a couple slipstreams. When I hit that ramp at the end it nearly vaulted me over that whole landing section on the left/right of the road. Which is absurd. Before my record was only like 200 lol.
147mph :o
you can reach the 200 mph limit on pc with constant 60 fps
+Norbert Somogyi 😥
There isn't a 200 MPH limit. The physics engine's speed cap is about 333.5 MPH.
+Norbert Somogyi 180 mph on Xbox One.
Johnny362000 someone on NoDo forums said that, I don't know much about gamefiles. (or this can reach THAT limit? that'd be even more ridiculous..)
I had a "fortunate" crash with the RE-7B and the left back tire was even more compressed. Got on 211,3 mph on Xbox One. Surprisingly, the traction didn't suffer as badly as I imagined. If you could do this on purpose, WR on high speed tracks would be a piece of cake.
Holy shit you know so much ha
I hate that people say "Great Video Broughy" In like 2 mins since the upload. The Vid is 24mins. Definitely watched it ;)
Haha yeah I noticed that XD Cheers!
+Broughy1322 Np :)
+Albion 2177 so many suck ups haha
+Snoop Doge ikr lol
Can u do a video like this?
Example: test an upgraded t20 vs a stock proto.
I would love to see this and it could become a great series. U could only do the top cars or do all of them. Thanks for the great vids over the past couple years!!😃
Maybe, we shall see. Cheers!
I have an 811, and at the front was deformed, and the front was kicking up as it was scraping the ground and I reached over 160mph on console, I'm like "Ohhh shit!!"
The re-7b is a monster, I just brought one the other day, and whilst I was playing last night I took it on a certain strip of road which had some down hill in the city and then continued on flat, considering my car was slightly bashed from many crashes, had max trans, engine turbo, spoiler, suspension, and no armor, I registered a 196mph top speed on ps4, going up and down the same strip of road i was averaging 160-170mph. It was accelerating at a ridiculus rates up hill and down hill, and I have to admit I was baffled at what was happening.
Quick note this was using stock tyres!
This dude deserves more subs
Spreadsheet guy here, thanks ;P Awsome vid!
Awesome video Brough! One question: what are the top speeds of the ETR1 and Tyrus using this bug?
I'm not sure in all honestly. They're not that much quicker though. Maybe 5mph at a guess
***** Allright, not enough to really bother. Thanks!
Hello broughy, wich tire type do you think is best for the new Rockstar created stunt races? i was thinking Tuner?
nice video Broughy, always helpful as usual.
Dude first - your content is very technical and very explanatory and sensational, second - you can make a more updated video using as an example the lm-87, because these days I saw an lm-87 that arrived in front in the races with a minute and a half difference from the second place this with all of us using devest eight and torero XO.
And my friends and I played against this guy in more than 15 races already and all that he participates go from lm-87 and wins all always with a lot of advantage of the second place.
@@johnyjjsiqueira4198 the LM87 is a second a lap faster than the XO around broughy's testing track, and it isnt too far away from those two's top speed, so the driver has probably maximised that car better than others
Great video! Must say you're vids have helped me become a better gta racer! Much appreciated!
Glad to help!
This is why they pay you the big bucks. Very informative Broughy.
Haha they don't pay me the big bucks XD Thanks though!
No problem lol.
So if I get this right:
1. the Slamvan has been patched on console but is still broken on pc
2. the 811 has not been patched on any platform yet (and reaches even more ridiculous speeds on pc than on console)
3. the new Supers are also broken at the moment with a specific setup.
Is that all correct?
You seem pretty confident that R* should patch this quickly, but if the 811 is still bugged I'm not sure they still care about the issue. And if it's anything like the Slamvan Custom, it may not change much for pc players. Oh well.
Anyway, thanks for going over the whole issue, and congrats for hitting 80k subs :)
Another great f*ckfinding video! Appreciate all the hard work Brough ❤️ I just have 1 question: does the no spoiler option on the omnis add traction?
Yes it does. Cheers! :)
PC "Master Race", now i get it!
Another great video, broughy!
Hey, Broughy. just a quick tip: do some research about the parts of the car youre going to talk about. it was kind of confusing to understand and i think that if you use names like wheel arches insted of the rear of the car, people will understand better. love your videos! :)
This is such a well made video :)
Thanks! :)
in the RE-7B with high end tires it makes it very difficult for stunt races as it goes so fast that it clears a large majority of the jumps which can be very annoying on some tracks
haha and i just wondered why my Re-7b beats everything at top speed challenge
Another great video mate! Keep up the great work!
thanks for explaining this , great video very informative . keep up the good work 👌
Cheers! :D
Great Video, I love racing Lucky Jims Rallycross with the Audi Quattro. If you could make another great rally track like that it would be great, I know that you have made another rally race but it would be great if you could make another rally race for the Audi Quattro like Lucky Jims Rallycross. Thanks, keep up the great job.
I must have raced Lucky Jims Rallycross 5 times today at 10 laps each time with my friend, over and over again trying to beat each others lap times.
this was really well done.. learned alot from this dude
Cheers, glad to help :)
22:40 - 23:18
and THATS why we love you Broughy
Good explaination starting from the basics, but I think that one thing is kinda missing: A direct comparison between the RE-7B on console and the bugged version on PC. From what I know it can easily vary between 160mph (read on the speedometer, which I know is not acurate, but other people max it out at 180) to 200mph (195 being reported using the same method you have for calculating your top speeds). This thing is not only stupidly fast (which is kinda funny to drive, if it wasn'T for the worse handling) it also is pretty inconsistent. But right now I'd be happy if R* would just fix the editor they f-ed up with the last dlc.
Thanks again for a great video. I have a crucial question. Is kurb boost and fps defining how quick you are, ever gonna be fixed? Or they are "root" of game's physics?
They're rooted in the game engine. Will never be fixed unless we get a complete overhaul for GTA 6. Was the same in GTA 4.
Cant they just try to fix the suspension problem? Or in generall find a trick or something to stop the cars from taking advantage of the root kurb boost (which creates the fps apsect too)? I mean for gods sake this issue is ridiculus, and they make it even worst with cars like 811 or Annis.
How come you are gaining subs so slow? You deserve millions of subs unlike most of these other youtubers
Well thanks I appreciate the kind words :)
DOWN-FORCE, I used that word 2 days ago, I knew I was right. I learn it modding the game actually...
Since the start I understood that these cars are faster because we are supposed to make loops and stuff with them.
When modding, I remember that if I add down-force, I can fly with the vehicles when upside down, just like you can do with Bikes and Motorcycles.
I am sure about it, I knew it since the start, they made it for the stunts
Great video as always
Fuck all the other gta channels. This is the best for car information. Great video!
Conversation from NODO PC:
- RE-7B is amazing!!! New WR On the GOH: 2:00:105
- LOL 1:48))) its crazy!
- RE-7B it's crazy car :)
- it is wrong when on stock wheels it is much faster than for example on off-road tires
- That's why I have 2:00 and you 1:48 lol i must change wheels.....
I honestly don't think they should take it out because it gives the option to drastically change the cars set up just like in real life. For more top speed you sacrifice cornering and vice versa. It gives a sense of variety even though we all are using the same car
I've noticed that the wheels start going into the ground even with a totally stock car when you're going at speed- so I don't think your theory of the custom spoilers activating this stat pans out. Maybe they increase it, or it's playing into the other stats that a spoiler increases (horizontal/frontal traction stats) or something entirely unrelated and weird that we don't know about. Good video, all the same.
Yes they do, but they're not being pushed down with enough force to cause this bug to appear. Only when you add the custom spoiler (and add more downforce) does the back end start to make contact with the rear wheels
I don't know why this car physics porn is so exciting. Nice video, Brougy!
Haha cheers!
Let's hope MrBossFTW sees this and makes a video about it. That way there is a bigger chance R* will see it and fix it. I also hope he quotes Broughy and tells everybody to go and subscribe.
That probably won't happen. BUT Lowering his view rate may p***** him off.
PC master race right guys? :D..... :).... :I....:(...;(
PC is extremely broken.
That pretty much makes it pay to win.
The better you PC is the more expensive it is.
Therefore it becomes pay to win.
Not really, just lower the graphics settings, and profit, unless you want to play gta 5 on a toaster
PCpro Gamer you may lower the settings but no one else will. Therefore you are at a disadvantage. Especially if you pc can run anything more than 30 fps
Why did the PC gamer cross the road?
To take out another bank loan.
Shawn Smith I play on ps4 and pc :/
I KNEW IT. THE RE-7B DOES HAVE AMAZING DOWNFORCE.