Hearing journalist hand-wave away the effects of foreign social media meddling on politics was frankly baffling. A whole bunch of bad takes from Marina on this one. One minute she’s talking about the insidious effects of the platforms attempts to keep you onboard by keeping you angry, the next she’s saying that foreign meddling doesn’t make a difference to people’s opinions. Evidence of huge numbers of bot accounts and troll farms on FB and Twitter aiming to do just that. Frankly,the whole first half of this episode was a lot of rambling nonsense from both of them. I don’t think either of these two have a great understanding of this subject. Consider sticking to talking about game shows and the charts. Also getting increasingly hard to trust their opinions as real when they’re flogging you Sky or HBO every five minutes in between bits.
@@MrOtistetrax at least when it comes to studies of the impact of social media on opinion: they find it hardly ever converts opinions, but it is good at reinforcing opinion and engaging existing members into action. So its good at making people fight juat like they both said.
They are showing their biases. When it was not musk owned and horribly left liberal biased they had no issue with it. No free speech is getting hold, we have to stop the plebs
She missed his 'Sue' pun at 32:05, and the schoolboy Wonka/w*nker quip at 32:40, too. Cocaine, tossers and lawsuits... Maybe she's being deliberately obtuse in order to keep Sky sweet.
With regards to social media being an amplifier of hate, what comes in second, is mockery and cruelness. I noticed this element early on, in the early/peak stage of Facebook. I remember I used to get recurring dreams of being back in school (because I know i am a click away of friending someone from the past) but then, I drew another connection, a lot of the thread posts that I saw of mockery and cruelness, bullying, put downs etc, reminded me of being in the school playground. It was almost like for like. From then on I just saw social media threads as a day in the life of a playground, you might get belittled on one day, bullied on another, teased the next. After I made that connection, my dreams stopped : )
As informed as both hosts are, they are massively uninformed about Mr Beast and the various scandals. One of the key cast members was grooming minors, and bought art from a known child pornographer depicting such acts, that was displayed in multiple Mr Beast streams. Could you for a moment imagine such a thing on TV? What if this was the BBC, or Netflix? But because of lack of understanding and a cloying need to like and understand the biggest new media mogul, a lot of these very serious things get missed, or like in this podcast, laughed off when it is discovered they are hiring HR, lawyers, and crisis PR teams
Literally and that is just the surface of the allegations that are coming out. Faking the whole donations (giving it to cast/crew members families/friends etc and not actual random people) etc. Deliberately encouraging children to gamble also. There is loads coming out. The guy is genuinely a sociopath and needs to be shut down. But he's YT golden boy and they won't cancel him because of pure greed.
They had the clickbait of putting it in the title as though they understood the gravity, but then they revealed Richard’s friend is a producer so must be neutral-to-positive for now. Just like other intellectual dishonesty, like having all these “anti-far-right” opinions but not being willing to say the word “Holocaust” during all this rioting and uninformed youth hysteria. They will be snarky on topics once they are ‘decided’ by the intellectual and entertainment dictators but won’t give real opinions if it could isolate them from potential fans.
I've never had Twitter, but until Musk bought it, I could use the trending page to see what was happening internationally. Once he bought it, the only stories non-users could see were about far-right politics.
I'm surprised that more attention wasn't given to the allegations surrounding the Mr Beast entourage. They are serious and evolving. The thing is, this probably won't harm the brand. As another commentator alludes to regarding xxxsniperwolf (but see also Logan Paul etc) there are plenty of RUclips personalities who commit abhorrent acts or are exposed in some way, but this does not actually seem to impact on their long-term audience. It would be interesting to hear Marina and Richard discuss the idea of accountability and the power/responsibility of RUclips and its algorithm.
Really surprised at how positive they were about Mr Beast. Some of the stories coming from the New York Times and the videos from Rosanna Pansino paint a much darker picture. "Even the people that lost are being given $1000" No, they are being filmed being given $1000 and then have it taken away to be told they will get it 'at some point'.
It really seems like they're operating on information which is like 3 weeks old, but even so, I can't imagine they pay attention to the drama on youtube. The concern is that this paints a narrow picture for people off-platform, as there's no mention of the Jake Weddle interview, which fundamentally destroys the conclusions that Mr Beast's new media empire is somehow preferable to the regulations of old media. Editorially this is a huge oversight for the credibility of this discussion
Like you guys on the whole but talking about ‘ceding control of a part of your identity to one of a number of weirdo billionaires’ whilst the Sky logo is superimposed in the corner because you’re happy for this particular part of your public presence to be underwritten by Murdoch is disappointingly un-self-aware…
I’m in America and I do check Facebook every day, but it’s because of the memories. When I first started using it years ago I put lots of pictures and updates about my children (nothing intrusive) and I enjoy checking and reminding myself of what they said or did. Then I end up scrolling and getting caught up in whatever. If I had a way to check those memories without being on the site I would probably never do social media at all…..but I trapped myself. Lol
On the subject of Twitter, Richard sounds like one of those staunch 'I'm a smoker, I like smoking and have no intentions of giving it up' types who you don't see for a while and then found out they gave up 6 months ago.
I love this show and I have no problem with them getting sponsorship from Sky if it helps the channel but the lofty comment from Marina while taking Murdoch's money is a bit clumsy
11:05. TBF I’ve had my best or at least quickest customer service response when I’ve tagged in the company if something has gone wrong. Public “shaming” or shouting on a popular social media account usually gets them scared. But I quite Twitter years ago and rarely go on FB. Both are just, yuk.
He will be fine as he makes money for RUclips, as we saw with SSSniperwolf, if you make coin for RUclips they will ignore their own rules and protect you. Same reason why DrDisrespect still has a TY channel.
@@MattFrancis1 Another RUclipsr, Jacksfilms, made a whole parody channel of her to call out the fact that her entire channel is just low-effort content theft, often reading off of a script than actually reacting, with the "reactions" often being the caption from the Tiktok video being watched but cropped off, and the creator's name cropped off as well. She then decided to dox Jack while he was live because that's something normal people do when legitimate criticisms are made about them and audiences & creators are becoming educated about the illegal activity. RUclips decided to say that "both sides" were at fault in response to the situation and let her off with a warning as children are obsessed with her videos.
38:33 "This is very new, this idea of doing shows with a thousand contestants"... Clearly Marina has forgotten ITV's 1983 epic "Ultra Quiz", with Michael Aspel, Russell Grant, Sally James and Jonathan King, along with 2,000 contestants vying to win 10,000 of the then-brand-new £1 coins, and jet-setting from Brighton to Hong Kong. And they were just copying Japanese TV, who'd been doing something similar since the seventies...
@@anthonyhollohan7651 It's an elimination gameshow with 1,000 contestants. Compare that to an elimination gameshow with 2,000 contestants in the UK more than 40 years ago. Marina said it was "this idea of doing shows with a thousand contestants" is "very new". The original Japanese show had 10,000 contestants each year from 1977 to 1992 and then as recently as 1998; the year MrBeast was born. TEN THOUSAND contestants 47 years ago. And, it turns out there was an American edition in 1981 before the UK edition with almost 1,000 contestants, filmed in Los Angeles with first prize roughly equivalent to $300,000 today. 47 years isn't "very new", and MrBeast's 1,000 contestants are a TENTH of what the Japanese had.
~32:32 "He's like sort of a Wonka of some sort," Marina said. "He's a what, sorry?," Richard replied, hinting at a mischievous smile. "A Wonka of some sort," repeated Marina, Richard's intent going totally over her head.
@@Adrian-eq8ch as do most things. Some people are brilliant in their own right but not brilliant enough to catch the brilliance of others. Richard’s zingers come thick and fast (she wrote with a mischievous smile). Marina has ADHD and is a gem but a little self-involved, probably too busy trying to remember what she meant to say next to really be present and appreciate others around her. I also find her teenage parlance she clearly picks up from her kids and tries to drop (“cope” as a noun) irritating when juxtaposed with the tendency for whitewashing pop culture scandals and failing to recognize hugely standard lingo like 143.
i remember when mr beast was making very large donations to low watching streamers on twitch to the point many refused what he donated and sent monies back and banned him
@@vurogj Her columns are very sharply humorous, the latest on the Musk Trump attempted love in being the most recent. They’ve been making me laugh for years, sometimes out loud on public transport.
In Britain politics is all on Facebook, and Twitter is for old people? That was such a bizarre thing to say Richard. I don’t know any young people on FB! And the recent riots were mainly incited on Twitter..
@@nesrinamin8579 Well Twitter was certainly hosting the most charged conversations on the topic but but to say they’re the reason they happened is the exact sort of mental trap they were discussing in that segment. You can’t organise an effective riot on Twitter because it’s too public. The actual logistical organisation of the riots, their locations, times and targets were done using services like Telegram and yes, Facebook groups. Twitter was just where all the feelings boiled to the surface and could be seen by people outside the target audience for the messaging.
I love watching you both so much. I feel like I'm sat on the next table to yours in a brilliant pub and I'm pretending not to be listening but you ask if I could take my ear off your shoulder for a moment while you reach for a crisp.
A Tina Turner style comeback would require an incredibly stellar voice singing some big hits, so that's never happening for Perry! Shouldn't have given up the day job.
Tina Turner's comeback really just consisted of one hit pop album, and a movie made about her life. I'm no fan of Katy Perry, but Tina was never as big as her. And to be honest, in the early days it was Ike who brought most of the talent.... and unfortunately the fists.
For the musicians and performers transformed into global mega-entities by the miracle of brand stretching, it’s no longer about the music or the ‘message’. It’s only about maintaining brand visibility in order to sell more tequila, ketchup, shoes… whatever. There’s no room for genuine creativity and authenticity when an artist has been reduced to a commodity.
These 2 are so funny. Claiming that X is unpopular & that only old people using whilst simultaneously talking about the phenomenon Mr Beast who is so popular amongst youngsters. And has over 30 million followers on X.
On Katy Perry/JLo, Marina touched on this - one of the byproducts of Taylor Swifts rise to be the pre eminent musical artist of our era is its created an arena where real and authentic are what people want. It has been done with such authenticity and is so “real” that it’s shone an awkward spotlight on to people like JLo, Katy, and others and made them look rather clunky. That’s why Charli XCX etc is so popular (apart from the great music!) she is real. American Idol is about as fake as you can get in the music industry and having been associated with that for 7 years, and now to come back into a new musical landscape where she’s not seen as genuine, I guess it’s no suprise she hasn’t hit this time around.
Fea stables have been around for a while now. Were you always saying that or just feel clever parroting a youtuber even though you’d never refer to it as a lottery otherwise. The whole “promoting gambling to children” thing has just gotten really dumb. Kids have limited money. They’re not spending hundreds on chocolate or merch for the chance to win prizes, and the tiny percentage that did overspend aren’t going to become gambling addicts because a chocolate company gave away prizes. Why aren’t you talking about McDonald’s and their random happy meal toys and Monopoly game? Oh, right, you weren’t told to.
One comment - "endurance" was an 80s Japanese game show where aroind a thousand contestants were battered and abused down to a single winner.... so it's not that original.
Ppl using their own following and clout to try shame others?? Like the host of a medium successful podcast attacking activists coz some corporation stopped sponsoring her books and wine club meetings due to pressure 🤔🤔 🤔 nice self awareness Marina Edit: also she quoted Aristophanes when the Rick Sanchez quote of "your boos mean nothing..... I've seen what makes you cheer!!" Is more apt and modern and literlaly is from a show that include Elon musk in that episode!! But posh ppl going to posh I suppose!!! BOOOOO the environment!! Yay marina getting free wine
Twitter was always for politics though. Reason being, functionally it is text based but you can add as much context as you like you can add articles, images, videos, go into detail with information. That’s why it was uniquely useful. When people say they prefer tiktok for political discourse, where replies in comments are about 4 characters long, out of order, no ability to add articles images, heavily over policed by bots, what they are saying is that they preferred living in a bubble where they receive zero pushback to anything they are saying. The fact is the tiktok educated are a huge problem too, and they have no understanding of the echo chambers they have created for themselves. The trolls are awful of course, but unfortunately too many have grown too accustomed to being the only ones allowed to speak, and too fragile to ever question themselves, preferring instead to reject an entire platform for fear they may contaminate themselves with the perspectives of the great unwashed.
It’s “I love you” in old beeper/texting code when we used to pay by the character. If it is her number, she copied it from two generations of standard usage.
@@diamonddave2622 I didn’t doubt that you were well sourced, I just doubted that Perry has genuine personal attachment to the code when it was used for decades to mean something that’s nothing to do with her. Sort of like her attempts to say her tired girlboss feminism was irony-I don’t doubt she said it, I just doubt that it’s a legitimate explanation.
1,4,3 is the number of letters in I Love You. Take That had a song called 8 letters on the same lines. Calling Mr Beast a bit of a Wonka for the chocolate business just made me keel over.
Look at the people they have let back onto Twitter and then relate those to the UK riots. Did any of the returnees give out false information that was taken up by the easily (or wanted to be) persuaded? Yes
Did not enjoy this episode. These two talk nonstop about how traditional media (newspaper, tv etc) is dead and how everyone is online. but then they spend the whole thing laughing at the idea twitter has any real world impact or that people take it seriously. The recent race riots were coordinated and fuelled almost entirely by online discourse, particuarly twitter. So yes of course you can mock the terminally online posting about their salad or ranting about trump etc, but it clearly has huge real world impacts, hence its banning in those listed countries. young people are still very much using twitter and similar platforms hence the constant studies about the radicalising effects of algorithms on young men in particular,
In Canada we can't post any media at all. The only way about it is to post RUclips videos of news reports. For educators and researchers like me, this is a nuisance.
As your stablemate Alan Shearer says: To be early is to be on time. To be on time is to be late. To be late is F***ING UNACCEPTABLE!!! I expect better from you.
Titanium? That's one Katy passed on. Sia made the David Guetta song a hit. But as least Katy will get to perform at the AFL Grand Final this year! Lifetime achievement award for that.
Yep, from the days when we paid by the character to send a page/text (letting The Youths know, since R&M seem to be pandering to them in this episode, so clearly that’s the audience they’re seeking, and not the millennials-and-up whom they’ve already captured)
Unless you can actually play an instrument, you're not a musician. Singers and dancers are not musicians. They are performers. And they don't write their own songs. And they're auto tuned. Music today is shit. And, yes, I'm old.
After todays pod cast and can clearly see you are sponsored by Sky and therefore can only say “approved “ lines and comments and as in this cast false information that can easily be proved false by anyone I now have to unfollow. 😢
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
Hearing journalist hand-wave away the effects of foreign social media meddling on politics was frankly baffling. A whole bunch of bad takes from Marina on this one.
One minute she’s talking about the insidious effects of the platforms attempts to keep you onboard by keeping you angry, the next she’s saying that foreign meddling doesn’t make a difference to people’s opinions. Evidence of huge numbers of bot accounts and troll farms on FB and Twitter aiming to do just that.
Frankly,the whole first half of this episode was a lot of rambling nonsense from both of them. I don’t think either of these two have a great understanding of this subject. Consider sticking to talking about game shows and the charts.
Also getting increasingly hard to trust their opinions as real when they’re flogging you Sky or HBO every five minutes in between bits.
She's a flip flop of a person, like a walking Daily Mail
@@MrOtistetrax at least when it comes to studies of the impact of social media on opinion: they find it hardly ever converts opinions, but it is good at reinforcing opinion and engaging existing members into action. So its good at making people fight juat like they both said.
I 100% agree. Marina's the weak link of babble in this duo.
They are showing their biases. When it was not musk owned and horribly left liberal biased they had no issue with it. No free speech is getting hold, we have to stop the plebs
Social media strikes again (see the last comment)
I love how Richard's "charlie joke" just went right over Marina's head lol. 😂
I was going to say, 'RIP' Richard's charlie joke, he r/wooshed tf out of Marina with that one!
I'll be honest my first thought was King Charles, and then I got it
She missed his 'Sue' pun at 32:05, and the schoolboy Wonka/w*nker quip at 32:40, too. Cocaine, tossers and lawsuits... Maybe she's being deliberately obtuse in order to keep Sky sweet.
Katy Perry didn't sing Titanium, that was Sia. Just a slight correction for ~24:06.
With regards to social media being an amplifier of hate, what comes in second, is mockery and cruelness. I noticed this element early on, in the early/peak stage of Facebook. I remember I used to get recurring dreams of being back in school (because I know i am a click away of friending someone from the past) but then, I drew another connection, a lot of the thread posts that I saw of mockery and cruelness, bullying, put downs etc, reminded me of being in the school playground. It was almost like for like. From then on I just saw social media threads as a day in the life of a playground, you might get belittled on one day, bullied on another, teased the next. After I made that connection, my dreams stopped : )
As informed as both hosts are, they are massively uninformed about Mr Beast and the various scandals. One of the key cast members was grooming minors, and bought art from a known child pornographer depicting such acts, that was displayed in multiple Mr Beast streams.
Could you for a moment imagine such a thing on TV? What if this was the BBC, or Netflix?
But because of lack of understanding and a cloying need to like and understand the biggest new media mogul, a lot of these very serious things get missed, or like in this podcast, laughed off when it is discovered they are hiring HR, lawyers, and crisis PR teams
Absolutely.
Literally and that is just the surface of the allegations that are coming out. Faking the whole donations (giving it to cast/crew members families/friends etc and not actual random people) etc. Deliberately encouraging children to gamble also. There is loads coming out. The guy is genuinely a sociopath and needs to be shut down. But he's YT golden boy and they won't cancel him because of pure greed.
At the risk of actually using the word literally correctly, they literally stated that there was a grooming allegation.
They had the clickbait of putting it in the title as though they understood the gravity, but then they revealed Richard’s friend is a producer so must be neutral-to-positive for now. Just like other intellectual dishonesty, like having all these “anti-far-right” opinions but not being willing to say the word “Holocaust” during all this rioting and uninformed youth hysteria. They will be snarky on topics once they are ‘decided’ by the intellectual and entertainment dictators but won’t give real opinions if it could isolate them from potential fans.
This, Sorry Richard/Marina, the iceberg runs deep and these two just saw a tiny tip poking above the surface,
I've never had Twitter, but until Musk bought it, I could use the trending page to see what was happening internationally. Once he bought it, the only stories non-users could see were about far-right politics.
I'm surprised that more attention wasn't given to the allegations surrounding the Mr Beast entourage. They are serious and evolving.
The thing is, this probably won't harm the brand. As another commentator alludes to regarding xxxsniperwolf (but see also Logan Paul etc) there are plenty of RUclips personalities who commit abhorrent acts or are exposed in some way, but this does not actually seem to impact on their long-term audience. It would be interesting to hear Marina and Richard discuss the idea of accountability and the power/responsibility of RUclips and its algorithm.
I want to see a full length portrait of Richard holding a tiny kitten.
Next season of Portrait Artist of the Year
I gave video a thumbs up for cat pic alone😂
I made a joke - where do single cats go on holiday ?
Catalonia
@@tucoramirez3333 😻😻😻
Really surprised at how positive they were about Mr Beast. Some of the stories coming from the New York Times and the videos from Rosanna Pansino paint a much darker picture.
"Even the people that lost are being given $1000"
No, they are being filmed being given $1000 and then have it taken away to be told they will get it 'at some point'.
They said last week that reality show winnings are always withheld until after full airing, if that makes a difference on this.
Totally agree, it seems their knowledge on this is completely surface level and mainly from an obviously biased source at Amazon.
It really seems like they're operating on information which is like 3 weeks old, but even so, I can't imagine they pay attention to the drama on youtube.
The concern is that this paints a narrow picture for people off-platform, as there's no mention of the Jake Weddle interview, which fundamentally destroys the conclusions that Mr Beast's new media empire is somehow preferable to the regulations of old media.
Editorially this is a huge oversight for the credibility of this discussion
Learning Marina has never blocked someone is the deepest insight into her personality in the history of this podcast.
Yea weird... How do you filter the trash from your feed if you aren't constantly blocking every second corporate marketing account??
31:52 'youtubers don't get scrutinised in the same way' - bit of an understatement don't you think?
Richard Osman should read his own audiobook. He has a soothing voice.
Soporific, one might say
Like you guys on the whole but talking about ‘ceding control of a part of your identity to one of a number of weirdo billionaires’ whilst the Sky logo is superimposed in the corner because you’re happy for this particular part of your public presence to be underwritten by Murdoch is disappointingly un-self-aware…
I’m in America and I do check Facebook every day, but it’s because of the memories. When I first started using it years ago I put lots of pictures and updates about my children (nothing intrusive) and I enjoy checking and reminding myself of what they said or did. Then I end up scrolling and getting caught up in whatever. If I had a way to check those memories without being on the site I would probably never do social media at all…..but I trapped myself. Lol
On the subject of Twitter, Richard sounds like one of those staunch 'I'm a smoker, I like smoking and have no intentions of giving it up' types who you don't see for a while and then found out they gave up 6 months ago.
I love this show and I have no problem with them getting sponsorship from Sky if it helps the channel but the lofty comment from Marina while taking Murdoch's money is a bit clumsy
Murdoch doesn't own sky anymore
11:05. TBF I’ve had my best or at least quickest customer service response when I’ve tagged in the company if something has gone wrong. Public “shaming” or shouting on a popular social media account usually gets them scared.
But I quite Twitter years ago and rarely go on FB. Both are just, yuk.
He will be fine as he makes money for RUclips, as we saw with SSSniperwolf, if you make coin for RUclips they will ignore their own rules and protect you. Same reason why DrDisrespect still has a TY channel.
Yup absolutely correct. Money talks
"both sides" smh
what did SSSniperwolf do?
@@MattFrancis1 she doxxed, copyright and harassed people
@@MattFrancis1 Another RUclipsr, Jacksfilms, made a whole parody channel of her to call out the fact that her entire channel is just low-effort content theft, often reading off of a script than actually reacting, with the "reactions" often being the caption from the Tiktok video being watched but cropped off, and the creator's name cropped off as well.
She then decided to dox Jack while he was live because that's something normal people do when legitimate criticisms are made about them and audiences & creators are becoming educated about the illegal activity.
RUclips decided to say that "both sides" were at fault in response to the situation and let her off with a warning as children are obsessed with her videos.
38:33 "This is very new, this idea of doing shows with a thousand contestants"... Clearly Marina has forgotten ITV's 1983 epic "Ultra Quiz", with Michael Aspel, Russell Grant, Sally James and Jonathan King, along with 2,000 contestants vying to win 10,000 of the then-brand-new £1 coins, and jet-setting from Brighton to Hong Kong. And they were just copying Japanese TV, who'd been doing something similar since the seventies...
its new for its style with that muich people
@@anthonyhollohan7651 It's an elimination gameshow with 1,000 contestants. Compare that to an elimination gameshow with 2,000 contestants in the UK more than 40 years ago. Marina said it was "this idea of doing shows with a thousand contestants" is "very new".
The original Japanese show had 10,000 contestants each year from 1977 to 1992 and then as recently as 1998; the year MrBeast was born. TEN THOUSAND contestants 47 years ago.
And, it turns out there was an American edition in 1981 before the UK edition with almost 1,000 contestants, filmed in Los Angeles with first prize roughly equivalent to $300,000 today.
47 years isn't "very new", and MrBeast's 1,000 contestants are a TENTH of what the Japanese had.
What about the new £1 coins featuring big ears ?
~32:32
"He's like sort of a Wonka of some sort," Marina said.
"He's a what, sorry?," Richard replied, hinting at a mischievous smile.
"A Wonka of some sort," repeated Marina, Richard's intent going totally over her head.
@@Adrian-eq8ch as do most things. Some people are brilliant in their own right but not brilliant enough to catch the brilliance of others. Richard’s zingers come thick and fast (she wrote with a mischievous smile). Marina has ADHD and is a gem but a little self-involved, probably too busy trying to remember what she meant to say next to really be present and appreciate others around her. I also find her teenage parlance she clearly picks up from her kids and tries to drop (“cope” as a noun) irritating when juxtaposed with the tendency for whitewashing pop culture scandals and failing to recognize hugely standard lingo like 143.
i remember when mr beast was making very large donations to low watching streamers on twitch to the point many refused what he donated and sent monies back and banned him
24:14 titanium is not a katy perry song
Oh no. That Charlie joke went totally unappreciated.
We liked the "I can imagine Charlie on that yacht" joke.
A joke that Marina showed no signs of getting. Brilliant.
Nasty bit of drug humour from Osman there. lovely stuff
came straight to comments to see if anyone flagged that, was not disappointed
@@vurogj Her columns are very sharply humorous, the latest on the Musk Trump attempted love in being the most recent.
They’ve been making me laugh for years, sometimes out loud on public transport.
In Britain politics is all on Facebook, and Twitter is for old people? That was such a bizarre thing to say Richard. I don’t know any young people on FB! And the recent riots were mainly incited on Twitter..
@@nesrinamin8579
Well Twitter was certainly hosting the most charged conversations on the topic but but to say they’re the reason they happened is the exact sort of mental trap they were discussing in that segment. You can’t organise an effective riot on Twitter because it’s too public.
The actual logistical organisation of the riots, their locations, times and targets were done using services like Telegram and yes, Facebook groups. Twitter was just where all the feelings boiled to the surface and could be seen by people outside the target audience for the messaging.
I use Boomerbook to msg my boomers, that's it...
Kids are on Tiktok etc
Twitter is where overly serious activists go to get trolled by libertarians
@@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV there’s something between “kids” and “old people” surely…
@@nesrinamin8579 Adults who are gamers communicate with Steam...
Adults who don't game presumably use smoke signals or telephones or something... :)
Oh, the 31 bus was my local bus when I lived in London.
No by and large this episode
I love watching you both so much. I feel like I'm sat on the next table to yours in a brilliant pub and I'm pretending not to be listening but you ask if I could take my ear off your shoulder for a moment while you reach for a crisp.
What flavour ?
@@tucoramirez3333 She wouldn't give me one but I think they might actually have been Worcester sauce flavour Twiglets!
Richard loves charlie, Marina's never tried it.
I dunno. I find the entire concept behind these game show extravaganzas to be completely abhorrent.
17:10 - "To be insulted by you is to be garlanded with undies."
Aristophanes for the OnlyFans generation.
A Tina Turner style comeback would require an incredibly stellar voice singing some big hits, so that's never happening for Perry! Shouldn't have given up the day job.
Tina Turner's comeback really just consisted of one hit pop album, and a movie made about her life. I'm no fan of Katy Perry, but Tina was never as big as her. And to be honest, in the early days it was Ike who brought most of the talent.... and unfortunately the fists.
It's amazing that anyone is still using Twitter.
People should be using Mastodon instead 🙂
Only leftists think that
You haven't done your proper research on the whole Mr Beast situation.
typical of the show tbh
they dont care and are not gonna talk ab out everything on their show
An Amazon show is “legacy media” now?
That's not what he said. Listen again.
Do comedians on panel shows chat beforehand to set up their best/favourite one liners? Not sure I want to know the answer, could spoil the magic
They have writers and re-takes.
@@OrangeBananaPear thanks Richard and Marina
@@2smokindukes I expect @OrangeBananaPear was expecting rather better than this tame effort when he/she teed you up.
I made a joke - where do single cats go on holiday ?
Catalonia
40:22 sounds like what they need is a squeaky wheel spotter; a Debbie Downer- someone in the company who sees problems before they arise.
For the musicians and performers transformed into global mega-entities by the miracle of brand stretching, it’s no longer about the music or the ‘message’. It’s only about maintaining brand visibility in order to sell more tequila, ketchup, shoes… whatever. There’s no room for genuine creativity and authenticity when an artist has been reduced to a commodity.
Love the Rene analogy
These 2 are so funny. Claiming that X is unpopular & that only old people using whilst simultaneously talking about the phenomenon Mr Beast who is so popular amongst youngsters. And has over 30 million followers on X.
I heard from someone in a youtube message that Twitter is only big in UK, USA and Japan. But much less use in the rest of the world.
@craigfoulkes it's banned in a lot of countries due lack of free speech. UK not too far behind to be honest
25:12 don't worry Ricky.. I noticed.. it can be our little thing x
On Katy Perry/JLo, Marina touched on this - one of the byproducts of Taylor Swifts rise to be the pre eminent musical artist of our era is its created an arena where real and authentic are what people want. It has been done with such authenticity and is so “real” that it’s shone an awkward spotlight on to people like JLo, Katy, and others and made them look rather clunky. That’s why Charli XCX etc is so popular (apart from the great music!) she is real. American Idol is about as fake as you can get in the music industry and having been associated with that for 7 years, and now to come back into a new musical landscape where she’s not seen as genuine, I guess it’s no suprise she hasn’t hit this time around.
RUclips channel podcast darn't say anything bad about MrBeast RUclips's golden goose 🤔
Great for Richard that he can turn up to work in his vest.
32:33 feastables is a lottery with a free chocolate bar included
Fea stables have been around for a while now. Were you always saying that or just feel clever parroting a youtuber even though you’d never refer to it as a lottery otherwise. The whole “promoting gambling to children” thing has just gotten really dumb. Kids have limited money. They’re not spending hundreds on chocolate or merch for the chance to win prizes, and the tiny percentage that did overspend aren’t going to become gambling addicts because a chocolate company gave away prizes. Why aren’t you talking about McDonald’s and their random happy meal toys and Monopoly game? Oh, right, you weren’t told to.
143 = I Love You - the number of letters in each word...
Marina banging on about Charlie XCX is like your Gran banging on about Madonna’s new pop disc 😂
One comment - "endurance" was an 80s Japanese game show where aroind a thousand contestants were battered and abused down to a single winner.... so it's not that original.
Ppl using their own following and clout to try shame others?? Like the host of a medium successful podcast attacking activists coz some corporation stopped sponsoring her books and wine club meetings due to pressure 🤔🤔 🤔 nice self awareness Marina
Edit: also she quoted Aristophanes when the Rick Sanchez quote of "your boos mean nothing..... I've seen what makes you cheer!!" Is more apt and modern and literlaly is from a show that include Elon musk in that episode!! But posh ppl going to posh I suppose!!! BOOOOO the environment!! Yay marina getting free wine
I think Charli XCX first entered the "hit parade" in 2012
Have I missed an episode? When did Amazon become "legacy"?
J Lo famously did not sing her own songs.
Didnt even cover the accusations of awarding prizes to friends and family and rigging competitions about Mr Beast.
hes allowed to gives his friends and family prizes if they compete in the challenges u goof
Twitter was always for politics though. Reason being, functionally it is text based but you can add as much context as you like you can add articles, images, videos, go into detail with information. That’s why it was uniquely useful. When people say they prefer tiktok for political discourse, where replies in comments are about 4 characters long, out of order, no ability to add articles images, heavily over policed by bots, what they are saying is that they preferred living in a bubble where they receive zero pushback to anything they are saying. The fact is the tiktok educated are a huge problem too, and they have no understanding of the echo chambers they have created for themselves. The trolls are awful of course, but unfortunately too many have grown too accustomed to being the only ones allowed to speak, and too fragile to ever question themselves, preferring instead to reject an entire platform for fear they may contaminate themselves with the perspectives of the great unwashed.
I never liked Mr. Beast!
Why
@@tucoramirez3333 Crap beard
@@ChrisH78 what if he gave u $50k ?
@@tucoramirez3333 The greatest beard mankind will ever see
Did Takeshi Castle have around 200-300 contestants (great show)
Enough generations already 😅
Block block block and double block til your tl soothes your soul and informs your mind
I will never use 'X' again. It's trash now.
143 is Katy Perry's 'Angel Number' - apparently
It’s “I love you” in old beeper/texting code when we used to pay by the character. If it is her number, she copied it from two generations of standard usage.
@@m-alexandria-g "It's called 143. It's my angel number. It's my symbol, it's my sign," Katy, 39, explained."
-Cosmopolitan Magazine interview
@@diamonddave2622 I didn’t doubt that you were well sourced, I just doubted that Perry has genuine personal attachment to the code when it was used for decades to mean something that’s nothing to do with her. Sort of like her attempts to say her tired girlboss feminism was irony-I don’t doubt she said it, I just doubt that it’s a legitimate explanation.
Main stream see the depth of the weird gross stuff that people who watch RUclips is going to be fascinating. H3 Show for indepth
I'm still on twitter mostly because of entering competitions. 😁
Ever win anything ?
@@tucoramirez3333 not recently so fair point 😅🤣
MrBeast engaged in PDF file talk, and is a true monster
Well, isn't this dull.
Interesting subjects, painted beige.
Yea, much of this was too far from their TV bubble to be well informed commentary...
Exactly why am I meant to trust the views expressed as honest opinions?' I'm sorry, I didn't catch the part about Sky. Are they good programs or bad?
1,4,3 is the number of letters in I Love You. Take That had a song called 8 letters on the same lines.
Calling Mr Beast a bit of a Wonka for the chocolate business just made me keel over.
Look at the people they have let back onto Twitter and then relate those to the UK riots. Did any of the returnees give out false information that was taken up by the easily (or wanted to be) persuaded? Yes
Totti!!!!!!!!!!
I actually deleted my twitter roughly 18 months ago? Maybe longer? Like fully deleted my account.
I've never been on twatter
Did not enjoy this episode. These two talk nonstop about how traditional media (newspaper, tv etc) is dead and how everyone is online. but then they spend the whole thing laughing at the idea twitter has any real world impact or that people take it seriously. The recent race riots were coordinated and fuelled almost entirely by online discourse, particuarly twitter. So yes of course you can mock the terminally online posting about their salad or ranting about trump etc, but it clearly has huge real world impacts, hence its banning in those listed countries. young people are still very much using twitter and similar platforms hence the constant studies about the radicalising effects of algorithms on young men in particular,
Not watched yet but will he care hardly end up in the poor house
In Canada we can't post any media at all. The only way about it is to post RUclips videos of news reports.
For educators and researchers like me, this is a nuisance.
The far right play a game... as do the far left and journalists
Exact same thing happens on Reddit except it's the far left. Not gonna mention that though are you?
As your stablemate Alan Shearer says:
To be early is to be on time.
To be on time is to be late.
To be late is F***ING UNACCEPTABLE!!!
I expect better from you.
Trump came back yesterday
Al Pacino and Robert De Niro, still having kids in there eighties, well they were both in heat.
Titanium? That's one Katy passed on. Sia made the David Guetta song a hit. But as least Katy will get to perform at the AFL Grand Final this year! Lifetime achievement award for that.
143 = I love you (based on # of letters in each word)
Yep, from the days when we paid by the character to send a page/text (letting The Youths know, since R&M seem to be pandering to them in this episode, so clearly that’s the audience they’re seeking, and not the millennials-and-up whom they’ve already captured)
Katy Perry's music career has been on the slide for a long time, it's not a new thing
I'm with Marina on block/mute. I just raw-dog the content.
If you mention the Tyson thing, who is going to understand anything from your two sentence exchange....
Delaware will collapse the Beastempire.
Unless you can actually play an instrument, you're not a musician. Singers and dancers are not musicians. They are performers. And they don't write their own songs. And they're auto tuned. Music today is shit. And, yes, I'm old.
Singers are certainly musicians, I’d say. Their voice is their instrument.
Singers play an instrument, it's in their throat.
After todays pod cast and can clearly see you are sponsored by Sky and therefore can only say “approved “ lines and comments and as in this cast false information that can easily be proved false by anyone I now have to unfollow. 😢
Babbling nonsense
Why does it seem mandatory for us to hate Elon Musk? Am I really that unusual in my high opinion of him?
Mr Beast set up a show in Toronto. And it crashed. The chocolate bars are in a losing 📉 supermarket chain. More crash. It's about to domino
1 - 4 - 3 is "code" for I love you