If you enjoyed this conversation (and you love Louie), please do me a little favour and like the video 👍 it really helps the channel and allows these types of conversations to reach more people. Steven 👊🏾
@@surrenderinfaith hey, I was in the same position as you having to keep the volume down and struggling to hear. Subtitles are one option but I bought some wireless bluetooth headphones. It's a much better listening experience. I recommend Bose if you can afford them. Definitely worth the investment.
I was looking for a way into documentary film many years ago and naughtily pinched Louis’ email address from one his early Weird Weekends (I think). I asked him to give me some advice about ways into the industry and not only did he email back but offered me some time on the phone. We chatted for thirty minutes. Very down to earth. Great guy.
And did it help? Not sure that I support you extending this information publicly; after all, he was kind to you, and what do you do? Give all and sundry the idea that they can do exactly the same. Give him a break!
Louis is so fascinating. He's so astutely aware and attentive to fulfilling his role on your podcast that he basically asked and answered all the questions himself. I think thats his way of showing care, he's worrying about your podcast on your behalf and making sure it goes well. He is the most unlikely version of a social butterfly, so profoundly brilliant at reading the situation and navigating the interaction
So refreshing to see Louis on the opposite end of the interview! He is such an intelligent and insightful person, it’s no wonder that he’s been so successful at objectively sharing others’ stories throughout his career, much like you have Steven!
Louis is the David Attenborough of human documentaries. I love him! So skilled dealing with people. And yet whilst he does everything to keep the focus on them, you can’t help but find him the most interesting thing to watch.
Didn’t call out Savile like the rest of his media luvvies. Yet was happy to bumble around with his fake geek awkwardness laughing at normal people. He’s a fraud.
@@mirandafriday4023 lol, theres a moment at about 1 hour 6 mins where hes asked a question and he starts about 30 answers/tangents without finishing a single one of them 🤣 yeah i feel like sometimes i, but you know theres that thing where, actually now i mention it, oh this reminds me of this time where dave, actually dave would hate me saying, you know when you know someone, its like when you have your first job....
Please, please get Karl Pilkington on. Massive fan of his and he is immensely interesting not to mention naturally funny with a philosophical outlook on so many things. Just discovered your channel recently and really enjoying it. Great interview with Louis. Well done.
I really agree and Steven is incredibly well prepared with his questions and his research. I don’t know how many times I shout at screens when interviewers talk over their guests. 😊 Nx
This has given me so much clarity and self-assurance that no matter who you might be, anxiety and 'imposter syndrome' still exists. Thank you Louis for being so authentic, I truly resonated with everything you were saying.
As an introvert I related to this so much. I am a woman but I am also terrible and checking in on friends and organising things. I'm happiest when I'm working on my own. I also did well at school and I think part of it is being slightly obsessive: having the ability to focus and really go deep on subjects of interest!
@@soude85 I don't think I have ADHD. I can focus for long periods of time, I do everything ahead of time and I'm never late to appointments. I just don't like organising things.
I am the same. I can totally relate to Louie. I call myself a confident introvert. Smart, reflective and not lacking self- confidence, yet prefer my own company the majority of the time. I have interests which are diverse and I enjoy learning about things in a depth which is not typical. I have great memory and become a mini expert in a short time. I can make friends fine, but I find the effort required to maintain friendships too time consuming. I prefer spending time doing "my interests". As I get older I am fine with it.
Theroux is my guy, super intelligent but also funny and witty. This interview was intriguing because you see him in a different light, opening up in a different and rare way from what we have seen before. Great interview.
I adore how reflective Louis is. I often ponder and contemplate my own life and experiences and influences and biases and then catch myself and feel almost self indulgent or maybe a bit ridiculous - but Louis makes this seem normal and I identify with his character so much.
@@mroberts566 That might be, although his father is actually an American as well. He was first put on by Michael Moore for his satirical show TV Nation, and went on to film many great documentaries in the States going forward.
@@9641-y3d Thanks. Based on the comments here, it seems like everyone loves him. Where would be the best place to begin familiarizing myself with his work?
@@mroberts566 "I don't understand who he is" is different from saying "I don't know who he is". What is that you don't understand? He's a human man, called Louis.
Who knew Louis was so chatty?! Watched him for years and have always liked his simple interview style, one of my absolute faves, glad you got him on, such a treat!
@@swhiting100Louie has always been chatty. Its a different thing acting as interviewer than interviewee. One does the talking the other asks questions but more importantly he listens.
Ive never related more to someone’s internal insecurities and desire to connect while resisting social engagements. Love Louis. Great GREAT interview. Great man
My husband has a very strong work ethic combined with a strong sense of doing his best at everything he does. So he won tons of awards in his career and made good money. He was a fantastic provider for our family. But this precluded being good at marriage and family life. Sadly, the kids feel distant from him still, as do I. I love and admire him as a person, but being in love died in the early years, swallowed up in loneliness and being absent even when he was present. He knows how to work and achieve. But he knows very, very little about how to love and nurture. And he doesn’t care that he doesn’t. Having a family was just a box to check off as achieved. Interestingly, he’s the kind of grandfather the kids wished they’d had for a dad. Hyper-driven men are a species unto themselves…movers and shakers for the good of society. But abysmal failures at marriage and family.
you should say to him that you feel lonely when you are with him,no woman should live like that. Youre happiness goes above everyone else if you arent happy in your marriage your kids will feel that and it will hurt them in the long run
@@sinatra187 well at least you have your awards, career and money to be proud of. To me, that’s not much when I look at the cost. But maybe for you and my husband, you see your lives as great successes.
Very accurate. This is the kind of person that capitalism and corporate America rewards. Therefore more and more people want to be like this. Cold and unfeeling and good at making money
Your interview style, Steve, is excellent. You really give your interviewees the time and space to open up. Even though they are high profile, the humanness always comes out and there's so much we can all relate to. Thank you!
Had an Uncle like that in Calverley, Leeds. He was utterly mute and uninterested at home, within his family, very difficult and ultimately very very floored. At work, he was apparently a much-loved and very liked and happy, clever man. When he died his funeral was a shock to his family when all these well-wishing colleagues turned up. Odd wasn't the half of it.
I've often wondered what it might be like to be married to someone like Louis Theroux. The curiosity that he has and the way his mind works to draw out the content from his viewers is phenomenal. I'm glad that you dug into his interpersonal relationships and delved into what his relationship is like with his wife. I admire the depth of transparency Louis went to and I congratulate you Steven for getting him there. You have a knack of framing your questions in a way that draws out the answers in what feels like a non invasive manner. 10/10! Ludwina from Melbourne, Australia xxx
Humility is a noble trait. Self reflection, learning, growth, morality, and selflessness are evident in this candid and riveting interview with a man who has instantly earned my respect.
A two hour long episode with Louis Theroux. You are truly spoiling us! Thank you so much for this podcast, it's gotten me through what has truly been a very tough year with interesting, honest, inspirational people. Thank you thank you.
7:38 "I just listen here." Such a small comment in the overall context of the interview but something we all appreciate during all of these episodes!! The creator is so humble; he also prompts extremely thought-provoking enough questions to elicit the types of answers for which one must "just listen." An understated but obvious & appreciated sentiment.
You’re clearly doing something great with your podcast, thank you for that. I would love one or more episodes with guests that aren’t necessarily considered famous. There’s so many interesting stories and people out there, and you could make huge impact by giving them a platform. Keep going and thanks for providing us with much needed authenticity!
Thanks Jessica, I've heard this a lot from our audience - my objective is never to find the people that are most famous - we turn down people that are famous but don't meet our criteria every day. I'm looking for people who have: A deep expertise on a topic that I personally care about, can speak well / in an engaging way, have a great unique story. If you look at my guest selection, they generally fit into one of these groups. Maybe they're an author or an expert on a topic, or maybe they've reached the very top of the game in Comedy... Sport... Business.. (which I consider a great story) or in the case of Raphael Rowe it's just a great story. As a consequence of their deep expertise or great unique story... they're often quite famous too. If I'm totally honest... the guests are a reflection of things I care about, topics I care about, what I'm going through in my life, and who's inspired me over the last 20 years. Sometimes, in the case of Africa Brooke who was not a famous name or someone with millions of followers, I just found her on Instagram and thought she was special so I personally DM'd her and asked her to come on. Same for Paul Brunson and Dr Aria, these were just people I came across in real life and thought were fantastic.
@@TheDiaryOfACEO to add to requests(!) , could you include more global voices, providing a perspective on business and leadership away from the West? I'm a long term fan working in Nairobi - lots of dynamic voices here/Tanzania and across the continent who could bring new perspectives to finance, poverty, mental health, community and so on. Thanks for the amazing conversations you've facilitated so far!
@@TheDiaryOfACEOI’ll do it. 6k followers on tiktok, that’s “not quite famous” right 🤣 and that’s the most “fame” I’ll ever find 🤣👌🏻🖤 2 kids, 1 on the way 😂 Nothing much about me - just a “normal” 34 year old Yorkshire woman, have no idea where I’m going in life, now in therapy for CPTSD, struggling to get by day to day but hey, I’m available 😂 (This is jokes guys - just entertaining myself)
Age might also contribute to our threshold of pleasure. I'm 80 and quite happy with my own company. I live in rural Victoria (Aus) and my pleasures include trying to tempt the Currawong to feed from my hand, the sound of rain on a tin roof, wine, silence before a thunderstorm. A dragonfly that settles on my knee as I sit in the sun. I mow lawns for people and the sight of straight lines in the mown grass is zen for me.
Yes, when we slow down, we really do get to appreciate the things that we never even knew existed. I love your comment, I don't mind being alone because I am never lonely. And I get to find the joy in everything that I experience.
Best. Guest. Ever. Hands down the most relatable and aware guest you've ever had on. He's inspired me to connect with family members in ways that are completely 'normal' yet 'exciting'
Its so impactful listening to Louis speak about anxiety, overworking and how he's managed that. Its so reassuring that you can still be a brilliant mind and have all challenges, its helped me a lot :)
I don't think enough people recognise how this type of content has succeeded and surpassed older forms of talk media. You've fulfilled the space that would previously have been occupied by a Jonathan Ross or a Michael Parkinson, and long may it continue. Great listen as always.
Louis mind works so fast that in reality it can not keep up with itself and before you hear him say what he is thinking you can see he has already move on in the conversation. So much going on here. TY
I remember watching Louis Theroux’s doc on one of the most notorious prisons in America. He asked one of the guards how often the prisoners who leave end up coming back, and they said quite a high %, maybe 20%, and said to Theroux that “humans are creatures of habit” and at that moment, I learned that something like a sorry is not enough, it really is changed behaviour that is the real sorry, because we are creatures of habit. I applied this information to myself, to see what habits/ behaviours I might repeat in the future that I wanted to change.
Louis bought me back after a hiatus of your channel inadvertently. But you’re killing it as ever, impeccable questioning and open setting to make your guests comfortable.
I've watched Louis documentaries for years, but it took me a long time to get him - but that came with age for me. This man dares to ask what most of us never would. He isn't afraid to poke the Lion & dig in.
I can relate....only I'm not a CEO. Instead I was told I took my work and work ethic too seriously.....like a religion. No more. My body is broken and I ended up worse off than further ahead. Good luck to anyone else trying to kick the habit of giving your life to the boss. It's worth it when you finally realize that the boss won't kill you for saying no. You might not have a job....but you will be better off in ALL other ways.
This pod cast was fascinating - Louis sharing his highs, lows, positives and weaknesses were refreshing and so down to earth and real. One of your best so far and he didn’t jump on the fashionable ‘mental health’ train !
30 min into podcast: some women (including me) are crap at connecting and being ‘intimate’ and good at friendships. I used to beat myself over it, thinking I’m a weirdo. Louis mentions not being neuro-typical: that’s what it is. Ps. Another great guest ❣️
I am the other way. I have spent years being able to discern the difference between love and neediness, and found that most people are terrified of unconditional love. Most people find my capacity for multi-dimensional intimacy to be too intense. Including with friendships. I hope to find someone equally intense one day, who is happy to have my loyalty and commitment for more than a relatively brief time. Fortunately the measure of a person's worth isn't if they happen to find a match in friendship or romance! If we are authentic and pursue what is important to us, we may find someone who vibes with us, and vice versa. Or not. Being single is fine, too! 😊
This has helped me. I suffer from social anxiety and hearing other people suffer from this makes me feel better. I always thought I was a failure but seems I'm not ❤ has taken years to realise.
I totally get the feelings of anxiety and foreboding Louis gets on meeting people at social functions which should be fun and a pleasure and those challenging works to be done. I think Louis has the same thoughts and worries as most of us.😂
I adore Louis Theroux! He has that British humility that is almost self-deprecating but then he'll make a tongue-in-cheek showing off remark about himself! 😂 I'll watch EVERY programme he makes.
Really enjoyed this. As a man who has been very skilled at keeping the focus on his interviewees I'd expected Louis to not give away much, like that was a thing of his. He is very open and candid here which wasn't what I expected. Interesting to get to know Louis better, he's certainly an interesting character and a funny, humble man.
Great interview. Couldn't stop giggling. Louis is so (unintentionally sometimes perhaps?) funny and has such an agile mind. Intelligent, witty, a great story teller, unassumingly confident. He draws you in. Love it thank you!
“I’m glad you brought that up” 🤣🤣 I am SO enjoying this interview! Steven, you’re amazing. Such a great interviewer. I love how you LISTEN, how you are PRESENT, and can elicit honest and incredibly open responses from your guests without imposing your ego on the conversation. IMHO that’s incredibly rare. It really is a joy to listen and watch, and this has become my go-to podcast. Thank you!
Yeah, I discovered Louis thanks to TikTok, and the more I dig into his work, interviews etc I find that he’s a sweet, talented, genuine,down to earth guy, also the way he always speaks about his wife with so much love and admiration.
I am not a CEO but I do find these podcasts full of relatable problems and sometimes inspiring advice. This on ewas particularly close to home. I like your open interview style and look forward to more of it. Thanks.
A lot of Louis's self reflection about his anxiety and feeling disconnected from the things and achievement that should bring pleasure in life, and in general his train of thought, I found really relatable.
I’m only half way through this interview and was inspired to comment. I appreciate Louis’ sense of humour and his openness to admit the good and the bad, intentional or not. I also appreciate his desire to be accurate which reflects HONESTY. He delves deeply and objectively in order to understand and to explain who he is, warts and all which is good for those of us who don’t see it as waffling. Steven is a good listener, sharer and interviewer. If I were 47 years younger, I would appreciate him as a partner.
As a fellow introvert I totally get Louis. Love love love his work....I think it is the endearing quality of his slight awkwardness and the fact he always keeps the focus on the interviewee and the ability to extract with probing that makes him special
Such a great conversation. Louis is so unashamedly authentic and doesn’t even realise it I think. Just felt like one of the most unfiltered conversations I’ve heard in a long time. A real window into his brain and masterful interviewing from you Steven as always 10/10
Louis and his impartial, non threatening , curious approach is something countless journalists could learn from. He gains the trust of most of the people he talks to. Doesn’t go in looking for a war with the goal of having his say over that of the interviewee. Complete opposite of Piers who is belligerent, try’s to dominates his guests and lead the chat in the direction that he wants rather than allowing it to develop naturally. Much prefer Steven’s and the approach that Louis takes.
I loved Louis' criticism of the Tate philosophy and the quiet discomfort that arose because of the common qualities it shares with the CEO's outlook on life.
He is just how I imagined him to be. And I think it is exactly why he is such a fantastic human. So smart. So genuine. And those simple things are things people are lacking finding joy in those simple daily routine normal life moments
Very intelligent guy - even the vocabulary he is using is way more advanced than the typical guests on this podcast. Hope there is Episode 2 at some point.
As a longtime Louis doco fan I have to say his approach to all professional interactions, his down to earth life view & irreverence is totally infectious - especially in the increasingly materialistic flashy world of the high profile or successful. His ability to connect with others, from all walks of life, is unmatched (in my humble opinion) & that makes for riveting viewing. Thanks for this one DOAC, a real treat to get an insight into the not often seen facets of Louis Theroux...P.S. his wife was right, compromise is vital 😉
You have natural counselling skills. And a beautiful way of holding space for people to open up. I'm a trainee counsellor and take alot from your podcadts. Thank you 🙏
I'm struck by how much I can relate to everything Louis says. It's quite funny that someone from a completely different background and upbringing can be formed in the same way and have the same feelings, outlook, conclusions and behaviours. Welcome to a masterclass in neurodiversity!
Our mental health is very important. It’s one of the keys to enjoying life. As Louis said, our support system should be in place, we need social interaction and exposure outside of work. Lots of gold from this episode.❤
Cutlery for lifetimes service... Change is good.. "I have difficulty hearing the good news".. "I can relate to that".... "I think you're just being kind".... Great interview. Thanks.
After thinking Mr Theroux was really weird back when he first started on TV, over the years I have come to have a deep respect for the man. Thanks, DOAC, for this very interesting interview.
Neurodiversity kept jumping out to me while I listened as well! I'm an autistic/ADHD hybrid and I felt that a lot of what came up in the conversation could fall within that framework for Louis. He would be described as "high masking" with an intense interest in "learning people" which is very common in Neurotypical-passing people who have late diagnoses, often women. He also seems to me like a person who does experience chronic anxiety alongside stressful moments. I've also never had a panic attack but do still have a Generalised Anxiety Disorder diagnosis. Panic Disorder is the only diagnosis I know of that needs panic attacks as a core symptom. GAD and PD seem to get mixed together - they do fall under the same umbrella but have big differences. Really enjoyed the interview! Both people seem especially respectful and self-aware.
@@Suggested-f7g pfew i have never seen someone else describe any of my struggles this well as louis just did hahaha thank your for saying an intense interest (i use focused) but anything but "special interest" and im even more gratefull for describing him as high masking haha im going to use that when i give people unasked advice :D
This was superb. I adore the leisurely nature of your long interview format Steve. I have listened to all of Louis’s GROUNDED podcasts and was so happy to find this beautiful leisurely conversation: No hurry, no agenda. I am at that sweet place in life where I can fill my time with lingering meandering conversations just like this one.
Life is fair like a boomerang. What you give out, comes back to you. Don't complain if you all you give to your life is work, but then you end up alone.
God he talks like someone with ADHD, He sounds so much like me, small tangents here and there, distracted by his own brain, can't remember words for a second here or there. So incredibly relateable :'D
I was thinking the exact same thing. I try my best not to put things like that on people but watching this he really does come across as someone with combined ADHD, he even mentioned not doing things in a neurotypical way
Why labeling and putting in boxes. It is rather damaging. No need to focus too much on details. I understand it can be difficult to accept yourself, but we all are different. Just be yourself, respect yourself and others. No need to strive for perfection. We all are work in progress and never will be perfect. Just enjoy what person puts forward while just thinking while speaking.
My happy place is listening to a Steven / Louis interview whilst getting on with parts of my day. I relate so much to the difficulty with being social and once I have a partner, prioritising the relationship. Also relate to the longwinded, meandering answers. Love the intelligence and humour. ❤
I’m a woman and I completely relate to being an introvert. I’m a teacher and I love spending time with young kids, then coming home to the silence of my room. I don’t reach out to friends or even make a particular effort to connect with my own family. I am neither depressed nor averse to others. It’s just my nature. Some of us connect with the world more intellectually and then sit back and recharge on our own.
I had a slight headache and is now much stronger! Louis, love your work over many years! This interview reminds me of my ex when he was abusing prescription meds and would kind of rant on an intellectual level! Please get this sorted for the sake of your loved ones! And in turn you may find peace in your anxiety!
God I relate to Louis so much. For me it's anxiety though. If I had to give a public speech I'd be shitting myself. I just don't feel like life is geared up for happiness. I know what I'd need to do to be happy, but I'm not sure if it's wise. I feel like I'd get there and figure out pretty quickly that I'm lonely as a result of chasing my own desires. So then if you don't chase your desires, you're never quite happy, but you can feel comfortable. I'm not sure what's a concrete state of life either, everything's changing all the time.
I enjoyed this. Louis' uninentional humor is excellent. I really relate to his generally anxious disposition even as a child. My childhood worries were about how adults on the news knew such big words and whether I'd ever know and remember them.
I'd take 100% authenticity over human empathy every day of the week in terms of Louis's personality. His critical nature is the endearing essence of his work and life it seems, to his credit.
Absolutely love Lou!! He's my surrogate uncle in my mind, always there to give me good advice lol. You guys have literally made my morning already. This will be on repeat ALL DAY!
I've just subscribed to your channel Steven - so far have watched this interview with Louis, and your recent one with Stephen Fry. I love your interviewing style where you just listen and let your guests tell their story honestly. Really glad to have discovered this channel! 😃
Can’t believe the amount of successful people who come on, especially the ones who are professional speakers, that confess to having some form of social anxiety. Just reiterates how successful people can come from anywhere and that anyone can rise to success if they truly want.
Unendingly curious, ambiverted, preoccupied with the bad but coasting through a routined life as a loveable weirdo? Bless Louis explaining the neurodivergent experience so well.
So relatable. Intelligent, humble, funny and very awkwardly British which the majority of Brits can identify with. The sort of guy you wish was your uncle or dad 🤣. Great programmes and brilliant books (and I wouldn't identify myself as a massive reader), definitely need more Louis's in this world 👍
Totally get where you're coming from. I'm not British but Australian, but some cultures are not comfortable with promoting themselves and and aggrandising. Particularly the British and for that we are forever grateful!
I saw him in The North Pole pub in West London near the BBC sat on his own having a pint where me and others used to sit just over 20 years ago. I was already familiar with his work up to that point but did not want to disturb him by saying hello. He already had a strong reputation for his work at that point.
Utterly refreshing to listen to someone who’s comfortably ambivalent and content with his own share of everyone’s human vulnerabilities, without todays prerequisite of showy drama or loud egos. Just like Steven in fact! No shouty egos or green Bugattis and I particularly liked his hint at tacitly acknowledging the insidiousness of academic snobbery. We need more healthy normal, open-mindedness attitude as society gets increasingly polarised (dangerous). Love the balance this interview gave. Thank you Steven!👏👏👏
40:43 the phrase he’s looking for is “Chasing the Dopamine”. Every time someone says “good job” that is a dopamine hit. I find often times with my Aspergers/ADHD combination I have to be very careful not to chase dopamine in negative ways, and positive dopamine hits can also be dangerously addictive. Our brains don’t work like neurotypical people. I also like the way he says “what makes me great at work makes me bad at life”. That hits deep and it is so true.
I love Louis for his vulnerability and authenticity. Just little things are a giveaway to his sensitivity and lack of putting on the style. I liked you both together as you both expressed a certain fragility and not knowing of how to "do life". I came away feeling blessed that there are men like you, like my sons in this world.
If you enjoyed this conversation (and you love Louie), please do me a little favour and like the video 👍 it really helps the channel and allows these types of conversations to reach more people. Steven 👊🏾
But I thought you hoped that no-one was listening, Steven! Excellent interview, as always.
Loved it
Click the settings icon (cog wheel) and you can put subtitles on Kerry.
Carry on not berating people Steven. Maintain the last bastions of polite humble decency in a world of dick measurers.
@@surrenderinfaith hey, I was in the same position as you having to keep the volume down and struggling to hear. Subtitles are one option but I bought some wireless bluetooth headphones. It's a much better listening experience. I recommend Bose if you can afford them. Definitely worth the investment.
I was looking for a way into documentary film many years ago and naughtily pinched Louis’ email address from one his early Weird Weekends (I think). I asked him to give me some advice about ways into the industry and not only did he email back but offered me some time on the phone. We chatted for thirty minutes. Very down to earth. Great guy.
That's incredible, a true testament to his character. Thanks for sharing.
Da hell? A guy of his caliber willling to get on the phone with a fan and offer some free advice? Nice
And did it help? Not sure that I support you extending this information publicly; after all, he was kind to you, and what do you do? Give all and sundry the idea that they can do exactly the same. Give him a break!
What was the advice?
@@col.231 It would have been better not to comment.
Louis is so fascinating. He's so astutely aware and attentive to fulfilling his role on your podcast that he basically asked and answered all the questions himself. I think thats his way of showing care, he's worrying about your podcast on your behalf and making sure it goes well. He is the most unlikely version of a social butterfly, so profoundly brilliant at reading the situation and navigating the interaction
That was a good write-up, I'm both infuriated and honoured to be its first respondent!!
So refreshing to see Louis on the opposite end of the interview! He is such an intelligent and insightful person, it’s no wonder that he’s been so successful at objectively sharing others’ stories throughout his career, much like you have Steven!
Louis is the David Attenborough of human documentaries. I love him! So skilled dealing with people. And yet whilst he does everything to keep the focus on them, you can’t help but find him the most interesting thing to watch.
He is a good interviewee too. Who’d thought!
I loved his documentaries !!
Wow that hit home, I so relate. Thank you
The above was meant for, G Grace.
Didn’t call out Savile like the rest of his media luvvies. Yet was happy to bumble around with his fake geek awkwardness laughing at normal people. He’s a fraud.
You can see his anxiety and social awkwardness in this trying to get everything out but he is very endearing and extremely smart 😊
Tangent ahoy but I love it......
The casio watch
Very obviously had a bit of a smoke beforehand. I’m quite sure he’d admit it. Good and very talented bloke.
@@mirandafriday4023 lol, theres a moment at about 1 hour 6 mins where hes asked a question and he starts about 30 answers/tangents without finishing a single one of them 🤣
yeah i feel like sometimes i, but you know theres that thing where, actually now i mention it, oh this reminds me of this time where dave, actually dave would hate me saying, you know when you know someone, its like when you have your first job....
Awkward, lol
I wish I could find him endearing. Just a flat affect...😢
I see Louis and I click.
Same.
i know …. me too 🤣🤣🤣
Me Too !!...such a unique character
Same he is so interesting
Likewise!
Please, please get Karl Pilkington on. Massive fan of his and he is immensely interesting not to mention naturally funny with a philosophical outlook on so many things. Just discovered your channel recently and really enjoying it. Great interview with Louis. Well done.
Karl is lovely, but I think what he does is an act not the true KP
@@lindanoble7047 it's no act... He is as genuine as they come.
@@lindanoble7047 I hope so because he would be insufferable if it was real.
This!!! Please!!
really good shout!
Stephen is so calm, balanced & gentle.❤ I love his curiosity, enthusiasm, analysis. Excellent interview.
You are the best type of interviewer, you let people speak. You just can’t get this quality of interview on mainstream media. Much appreciated
🙏🏽 Thank you x
That's a very underrated skill. Not many interviewers have it, especially not political ones
I really agree and Steven is incredibly well prepared with his questions and his research. I don’t know how many times I shout at screens when interviewers talk over their guests. 😊 Nx
Don’t think he had much choice with Louis in the room 🙂
@@1234567marks haha
This has given me so much clarity and self-assurance that no matter who you might be, anxiety and 'imposter syndrome' still exists. Thank you Louis for being so authentic, I truly resonated with everything you were saying.
❤ me too !!
Louis is the sweetest Neuro-Divergent man I have seen in a while. Well done Steven for bringing the Calm!
As an introvert I related to this so much. I am a woman but I am also terrible and checking in on friends and organising things. I'm happiest when I'm working on my own. I also did well at school and I think part of it is being slightly obsessive: having the ability to focus and really go deep on subjects of interest!
That’s also called ADD/ADHD…
@@soude85 Or ASD........and you can also be an introvert with it as well.
@@soude85 I don't think I have ADHD. I can focus for long periods of time, I do everything ahead of time and I'm never late to appointments. I just don't like organising things.
I am the same. I can totally relate to Louie.
I call myself a confident introvert. Smart, reflective and not lacking self- confidence, yet prefer my own company the majority of the time.
I have interests which are diverse and I enjoy learning about things in a depth which is not typical. I have great memory and become a mini expert in a short time.
I can make friends fine, but I find the effort required to maintain friendships too time consuming. I prefer spending time doing "my interests". As I get older I am fine with it.
100% me.
Theroux is my guy, super intelligent but also funny and witty. This interview was intriguing because you see him in a different light, opening up in a different and rare way from what we have seen before. Great interview.
I adore how reflective Louis is. I often ponder and contemplate my own life and experiences and influences and biases and then catch myself and feel almost self indulgent or maybe a bit ridiculous - but Louis makes this seem normal and I identify with his character so much.
Louis is quite a complex character but/and immensely likable. Love his work and love to hear him talk.
I don’t understand who he is. Is that because I’m American? I never heard of him until he did that rap about his money folding.
@@mroberts566 That might be, although his father is actually an American as well. He was first put on by Michael Moore for his satirical show TV Nation, and went on to film many great documentaries in the States going forward.
@@mroberts566 he’s quite a famous documentary film maker with a unique slightly passive interview style that brings peoples walls down
@@9641-y3d Thanks. Based on the comments here, it seems like everyone loves him. Where would be the best place to begin familiarizing myself with his work?
@@mroberts566 "I don't understand who he is" is different from saying "I don't know who he is". What is that you don't understand? He's a human man, called Louis.
Louis’s anxiety about the May Day dance around the pole was hilarious 😂
Like life's big problem !
Who knew Louis was so chatty?! Watched him for years and have always liked his simple interview style, one of my absolute faves, glad you got him on, such a treat!
Yes I love how he uses silence in his interviews....it's so powerful
he has always been chatty
@@bluebellbeatnik4945 Not this chatty.
@@swhiting100 definitely this chatty. have you heard his interviews with adam buxton?
@@swhiting100Louie has always been chatty. Its a different thing acting as interviewer than interviewee. One does the talking the other asks questions but more importantly he listens.
Ive never related more to someone’s internal insecurities and desire to connect while resisting social engagements. Love Louis. Great GREAT interview. Great man
My husband has a very strong work ethic combined with a strong sense of doing his best at everything he does. So he won tons of awards in his career and made good money. He was a fantastic provider for our family. But this precluded being good at marriage and family life. Sadly, the kids feel distant from him still, as do I. I love and admire him as a person, but being in love died in the early years, swallowed up in loneliness and being absent even when he was present. He knows how to work and achieve. But he knows very, very little about how to love and nurture. And he doesn’t care that he doesn’t. Having a family was just a box to check off as achieved. Interestingly, he’s the kind of grandfather the kids wished they’d had for a dad.
Hyper-driven men are a species unto themselves…movers and shakers for the good of society. But abysmal failures at marriage and family.
wow couldn’t have written this better
Jeez it seems like I’ve been married and got kids and grandkids I don’t even know. You just described me to a tee. I’m a work in progress
you should say to him that you feel lonely when you are with him,no woman should live like that. Youre happiness goes above everyone else if you arent happy in your marriage your kids will feel that and it will hurt them in the long run
@@sinatra187 well at least you have your awards, career and money to be proud of. To me, that’s not much when I look at the cost. But maybe for you and my husband, you see your lives as great successes.
Very accurate. This is the kind of person that capitalism and corporate America rewards. Therefore more and more people want to be like this. Cold and unfeeling and good at making money
Your interview style, Steve, is excellent. You really give your interviewees the time and space to open up. Even though they are high profile, the humanness always comes out and there's so much we can all relate to. Thank you!
Yes and yes about giving the time.
Truly
I adore Louis Theroux but I found this interview boring; it is long but I don't feel I know anything about Louis that I didn't know before.
Had an Uncle like that in Calverley, Leeds. He was utterly mute and uninterested at home, within his family, very difficult and ultimately very very floored. At work, he was apparently a much-loved and very liked and happy, clever man. When he died his funeral was a shock to his family when all these well-wishing colleagues turned up. Odd wasn't the half of it.
I've often wondered what it might be like to be married to someone like Louis Theroux. The curiosity that he has and the way his mind works to draw out the content from his viewers is phenomenal. I'm glad that you dug into his interpersonal relationships and delved into what his relationship is like with his wife. I admire the depth of transparency Louis went to and I congratulate you Steven for getting him there. You have a knack of framing your questions in a way that draws out the answers in what feels like a non invasive manner. 10/10!
Ludwina from Melbourne, Australia xxx
Ditto on all points
Ditto here as well, although I live further up the coast.
Humility is a noble trait. Self reflection, learning, growth, morality, and selflessness are evident in this candid and riveting interview with a man who has instantly earned my respect.
A two hour long episode with Louis Theroux. You are truly spoiling us!
Thank you so much for this podcast, it's gotten me through what has truly been a very tough year with interesting, honest, inspirational people. Thank you thank you.
One of the most humble Normal down to earth blokes I've ever watched and sadly never met..
He so resignates with me..
Love the guy..
7:38 "I just listen here." Such a small comment in the overall context of the interview but something we all appreciate during all of these episodes!! The creator is so humble; he also prompts extremely thought-provoking enough questions to elicit the types of answers for which one must "just listen." An understated but obvious & appreciated sentiment.
You’re clearly doing something great with your podcast, thank you for that. I would love one or more episodes with guests that aren’t necessarily considered famous. There’s so many interesting stories and people out there, and you could make huge impact by giving them a platform.
Keep going and thanks for providing us with much needed authenticity!
Thanks Jessica, I've heard this a lot from our audience - my objective is never to find the people that are most famous - we turn down people that are famous but don't meet our criteria every day. I'm looking for people who have: A deep expertise on a topic that I personally care about, can speak well / in an engaging way, have a great unique story. If you look at my guest selection, they generally fit into one of these groups. Maybe they're an author or an expert on a topic, or maybe they've reached the very top of the game in Comedy... Sport... Business.. (which I consider a great story) or in the case of Raphael Rowe it's just a great story. As a consequence of their deep expertise or great unique story... they're often quite famous too. If I'm totally honest... the guests are a reflection of things I care about, topics I care about, what I'm going through in my life, and who's inspired me over the last 20 years. Sometimes, in the case of Africa Brooke who was not a famous name or someone with millions of followers, I just found her on Instagram and thought she was special so I personally DM'd her and asked her to come on. Same for Paul Brunson and Dr Aria, these were just people I came across in real life and thought were fantastic.
@@TheDiaryOfACEO to add to requests(!) , could you include more global voices, providing a perspective on business and leadership away from the West? I'm a long term fan working in Nairobi - lots of dynamic voices here/Tanzania and across the continent who could bring new perspectives to finance, poverty, mental health, community and so on. Thanks for the amazing conversations you've facilitated so far!
@@TheDiaryOfACEOI’ll do it. 6k followers on tiktok, that’s “not quite famous” right 🤣 and that’s the most “fame” I’ll ever find 🤣👌🏻🖤 2 kids, 1 on the way 😂 Nothing much about me - just a “normal” 34 year old Yorkshire woman, have no idea where I’m going in life, now in therapy for CPTSD, struggling to get by day to day but hey, I’m available 😂 (This is jokes guys - just entertaining myself)
Age might also contribute to our threshold of pleasure.
I'm 80 and quite happy with my own company. I live in rural Victoria (Aus) and my pleasures include trying to tempt the Currawong to feed from my hand, the sound of rain on a tin roof, wine, silence before a thunderstorm. A dragonfly that settles on my knee as I sit in the sun.
I mow lawns for people and the sight of straight lines in the mown grass is zen for me.
Yes, when we slow down, we really do get to appreciate the things that we never even knew existed. I love your comment, I don't mind being alone because I am never lonely. And I get to find the joy in everything that I experience.
You've described the closest thing to heaven on earth. Pure zen. You live in the moment and I think that's the key.
Forgive me but I am 33 and share this... I believe we are animists.
Stay happy, you should write a book.
There will be so many people who will really identify with Louis and his relationship with the world. He articulates it so well.
Loved this Interview. He’s so honest with himself, so genuine, that’s peak admirability.
I could listen to Louis all day, he is so funny. His new series is really good, his awkwardness is what is great about his interviews
Best. Guest. Ever. Hands down the most relatable and aware guest you've ever had on. He's inspired me to connect with family members in ways that are completely 'normal' yet 'exciting'
Its so impactful listening to Louis speak about anxiety, overworking and how he's managed that. Its so reassuring that you can still be a brilliant mind and have all challenges, its helped me a lot :)
i love how socially awkward Louis is, he makes me feel normal.
Yes, he’s socially awkward and yet has been in so many awkward situations but handled them remarkably.
lets go on a date then
That’s autism for ya
I don't think enough people recognise how this type of content has succeeded and surpassed older forms of talk media. You've fulfilled the space that would previously have been occupied by a Jonathan Ross or a Michael Parkinson, and long may it continue. Great listen as always.
Massively relate to what Louis was saying about being anxious about how things might go and avoiding certain situations.
One of your best interviews. Louis Theroux is a joy to listen to. Definitely the king of documentaries!!
Louis mind works so fast that in reality it can not keep up with itself and before you hear him say what he is thinking you can see he has already move on in the conversation. So much going on here. TY
Yes! I can see that too!
Steven I love your relaxed, intimate interviewing style. I love Louis - always have. What an amazingly articulate brain.
Louis is everything you could want in a person
I remember watching Louis Theroux’s doc on one of the most notorious prisons in America. He asked one of the guards how often the prisoners who leave end up coming back, and they said quite a high %, maybe 20%, and said to Theroux that “humans are creatures of habit” and at that moment, I learned that something like a sorry is not enough, it really is changed behaviour that is the real sorry, because we are creatures of habit. I applied this information to myself, to see what habits/ behaviours I might repeat in the future that I wanted to change.
That is AMAZING!! Because very few people really change as it is such hard work. Brava!
Very insightful
20% sounds like a low estimate
Louis bought me back after a hiatus of your channel inadvertently. But you’re killing it as ever, impeccable questioning and open setting to make your guests comfortable.
I've watched Louis documentaries for years, but it took me a long time to get him - but that came with age for me. This man dares to ask what most of us never would. He isn't afraid to poke the Lion & dig in.
He's great!
I can relate....only I'm not a CEO. Instead I was told I took my work and work ethic too seriously.....like a religion. No more. My body is broken and I ended up worse off than further ahead. Good luck to anyone else trying to kick the habit of giving your life to the boss. It's worth it when you finally realize that the boss won't kill you for saying no. You might not have a job....but you will be better off in ALL other ways.
This pod cast was fascinating - Louis sharing his highs, lows, positives and weaknesses were refreshing and so down to earth and real. One of your best so far and he didn’t jump on the fashionable ‘mental health’ train !
Very satisfying interview. Well done and thanks
30 min into podcast: some women (including me) are crap at connecting and being ‘intimate’ and good at friendships. I used to beat myself over it, thinking I’m a weirdo.
Louis mentions not being neuro-typical: that’s what it is.
Ps. Another great guest ❣️
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I am the other way. I have spent years being able to discern the difference between love and neediness, and found that most people are terrified of unconditional love. Most people find my capacity for multi-dimensional intimacy to be too intense. Including with friendships. I hope to find someone equally intense one day, who is happy to have my loyalty and commitment for more than a relatively brief time. Fortunately the measure of a person's worth isn't if they happen to find a match in friendship or romance! If we are authentic and pursue what is important to us, we may find someone who vibes with us, and vice versa. Or not. Being single is fine, too! 😊
Thanks, I'm just realizing this about myself
☝🏽 it’s definitely not just being male 😂
He's insecure aviodant to a T. Not surprising given his relationship with his parents
This has helped me. I suffer from social anxiety and hearing other people suffer from this makes me feel better. I always thought I was a failure but seems I'm not ❤ has taken years to realise.
Me too!!!
When the best podcast interviewer meets the best documentary interviewer 👑
I totally get the feelings of anxiety and foreboding Louis gets on meeting people at social functions which should be fun and a pleasure and those challenging works to be done. I think Louis has the same thoughts and worries as most of us.😂
You got him! Absolutely broadcasting legend. Don't call this a come back, he's been here for years.
This was a really excellent chat. I've always loved Louis.
This is a very honest, personal and heartfelt talk with him.
Subscribed.
The “my money don’t jiggle jiggle” rap was my ringtone from about 2015 until about 2020. Bloody love this guy.
I adore Louis Theroux! He has that British humility that is almost self-deprecating but then he'll make a tongue-in-cheek showing off remark about himself! 😂
I'll watch EVERY programme he makes.
Really enjoyed this. As a man who has been very skilled at keeping the focus on his interviewees I'd expected Louis to not give away much, like that was a thing of his. He is very open and candid here which wasn't what I expected. Interesting to get to know Louis better, he's certainly an interesting character and a funny, humble man.
Maybe he fancied the interviewer?
Great interview. Couldn't stop giggling. Louis is so (unintentionally sometimes perhaps?) funny and has such an agile mind. Intelligent, witty, a great story teller, unassumingly confident. He draws you in. Love it thank you!
I could listen all day to Louis . I'm grateful to him for partaking in this interview. He s a kind fully ALIVE, Authentic Man. Well done Louise
“I’m glad you brought that up” 🤣🤣 I am SO enjoying this interview! Steven, you’re amazing. Such a great interviewer. I love how you LISTEN, how you are PRESENT, and can elicit honest and incredibly open responses from your guests without imposing your ego on the conversation. IMHO that’s incredibly rare. It really is a joy to listen and watch, and this has become my go-to podcast. Thank you!
You're a great host Steven, you create a relaxed environement and allow guests to speak freely. Really enjoyed this.
Yeah, I discovered Louis thanks to TikTok, and the more I dig into his work, interviews etc I find that he’s a sweet, talented, genuine,down to earth guy, also the way he always speaks about his wife with so much love and admiration.
I am not a CEO but I do find these podcasts full of relatable problems and sometimes inspiring advice. This on ewas particularly close to home. I like your open interview style and look forward to more of it. Thanks.
A lot of Louis's self reflection about his anxiety and feeling disconnected from the things and achievement that should bring pleasure in life, and in general his train of thought, I found really relatable.
I’m only half way through this interview and was inspired to comment. I appreciate Louis’ sense of humour and his openness to admit the good and the bad, intentional or not. I also appreciate his desire to be accurate which reflects HONESTY. He delves deeply and objectively in order to understand and to explain who he is, warts and all which is good for those of us who don’t see it as waffling. Steven is a good listener, sharer and interviewer. If I were 47 years younger, I would appreciate him as a partner.
As a fellow introvert I totally get Louis. Love love love his work....I think it is the endearing quality of his slight awkwardness and the fact he always keeps the focus on the interviewee and the ability to extract with probing that makes him special
Just love everything about Louis, one person who I could joyfully listen to for hours ✨💜
Such a great conversation. Louis is so unashamedly authentic and doesn’t even realise it I think. Just felt like one of the most unfiltered conversations I’ve heard in a long time. A real window into his brain and masterful interviewing from you Steven as always 10/10
Louis and his impartial, non threatening , curious approach is something countless journalists could learn from. He gains the trust of most of the people he talks to. Doesn’t go in looking for a war with the goal of having his say over that of the interviewee. Complete opposite of Piers who is belligerent, try’s to dominates his guests and lead the chat in the direction that he wants rather than allowing it to develop naturally. Much prefer Steven’s and the approach that Louis takes.
I loved Louis' criticism of the Tate philosophy and the quiet discomfort that arose because of the common qualities it shares with the CEO's outlook on life.
My FAV moment out of all the episodes! 😁
He is just how I imagined him to be. And I think it is exactly why he is such a fantastic human. So smart. So genuine. And those simple things are things people are lacking finding joy in those simple daily routine normal life moments
This is so refreshing; one of the few interviewers who doesn’t make the interview all about themselves 🙌🙌
Very intelligent guy - even the vocabulary he is using is way more advanced than the typical guests on this podcast. Hope there is Episode 2 at some point.
As a longtime Louis doco fan I have to say his approach to all professional interactions, his down to earth life view & irreverence is totally infectious - especially in the increasingly materialistic flashy world of the high profile or successful. His ability to connect with others, from all walks of life, is unmatched (in my humble opinion) & that makes for riveting viewing. Thanks for this one DOAC, a real treat to get an insight into the not often seen facets of Louis Theroux...P.S. his wife was right, compromise is vital 😉
You have natural counselling skills. And a beautiful way of holding space for people to open up. I'm a trainee counsellor and take alot from your podcadts. Thank you 🙏
I'm struck by how much I can relate to everything Louis says. It's quite funny that someone from a completely different background and upbringing can be formed in the same way and have the same feelings, outlook, conclusions and behaviours. Welcome to a masterclass in neurodiversity!
Our mental health is very important. It’s one of the keys to enjoying life. As Louis said, our support system should be in place, we need social interaction and exposure outside of work. Lots of gold from this episode.❤
Thanks for watching 🙏
Cutlery for lifetimes service... Change is good..
"I have difficulty hearing the good news".. "I can relate to that".... "I think you're just being kind"....
Great interview. Thanks.
After thinking Mr Theroux was really weird back when he first started on TV, over the years I have come to have a deep respect for the man. Thanks, DOAC, for this very interesting interview.
Louis is a neuro divergent legend. Be more like Louis. Great episode! Thank you all xxxx
Neurodiversity kept jumping out to me while I listened as well! I'm an autistic/ADHD hybrid and I felt that a lot of what came up in the conversation could fall within that framework for Louis. He would be described as "high masking" with an intense interest in "learning people" which is very common in Neurotypical-passing people who have late diagnoses, often women. He also seems to me like a person who does experience chronic anxiety alongside stressful moments. I've also never had a panic attack but do still have a Generalised Anxiety Disorder diagnosis. Panic Disorder is the only diagnosis I know of that needs panic attacks as a core symptom. GAD and PD seem to get mixed together - they do fall under the same umbrella but have big differences.
Really enjoyed the interview! Both people seem especially respectful and self-aware.
@@Suggested-f7g Definitely agree
@@Suggested-f7g pfew i have never seen someone else describe any of my struggles this well as louis just did hahaha thank your for saying an intense interest (i use focused) but anything but "special interest" and im even more gratefull for describing him as high masking haha im going to use that when i give people unasked advice :D
Im adhd i see it in him . Knew there was a reason I gravitated towards him .
@@Suggested-f7g Hi Anna, I'm ADHD and autistic too! I definitely felt the neuro spicy in this interview. :)
“I don’t give a fuck about your Bugatti, I think it’s embarrassing that you have one” lmaooo i love this man so so much
"I've got 2 of these, I'm not bragging".
This was superb. I adore the leisurely nature of your long interview format Steve. I have listened to all of Louis’s GROUNDED podcasts and was so happy to find this beautiful leisurely conversation: No hurry, no agenda. I am at that sweet place in life where I can fill my time with lingering meandering conversations just like this one.
It's one of those rare occasions Stephen where you could just sit back and listen...Boy he can speak. Not what I expected, intriguing.
It’s so satisfying to listen to him articulate his points with such elegant language.
Life is fair like a boomerang. What you give out, comes back to you. Don't complain if you all you give to your life is work, but then you end up alone.
God he talks like someone with ADHD, He sounds so much like me, small tangents here and there, distracted by his own brain, can't remember words for a second here or there. So incredibly relateable :'D
I was thinking the exact same thing. I try my best not to put things like that on people but watching this he really does come across as someone with combined ADHD, he even mentioned not doing things in a neurotypical way
Why labeling and putting in boxes. It is rather damaging. No need to focus too much on details. I understand it can be difficult to accept yourself, but we all are different. Just be yourself, respect yourself and others. No need to strive for perfection. We all are work in progress and never will be perfect. Just enjoy what person puts forward while just thinking while speaking.
Yes! Like me too. Oh look - A bird!
My happy place is listening to a Steven / Louis interview whilst getting on with parts of my day. I relate so much to the difficulty with being social and once I have a partner, prioritising the relationship. Also relate to the longwinded, meandering answers. Love the intelligence and humour. ❤
true
I’m a woman and I completely relate to being an introvert. I’m a teacher and I love spending time with young kids, then coming home to the silence of my room. I don’t reach out to friends or even make a particular effort to connect with my own family. I am neither depressed nor averse to others. It’s just my nature. Some of us connect with the world more intellectually and then sit back and recharge on our own.
I had a slight headache and is now much stronger! Louis, love your work over many years! This interview reminds me of my ex when he was abusing prescription meds and would kind of rant on an intellectual level! Please get this sorted for the sake of your loved ones! And in turn you may find peace in your anxiety!
What are you smoking?
God I relate to Louis so much. For me it's anxiety though. If I had to give a public speech I'd be shitting myself. I just don't feel like life is geared up for happiness. I know what I'd need to do to be happy, but I'm not sure if it's wise. I feel like I'd get there and figure out pretty quickly that I'm lonely as a result of chasing my own desires. So then if you don't chase your desires, you're never quite happy, but you can feel comfortable. I'm not sure what's a concrete state of life either, everything's changing all the time.
I enjoyed this. Louis' uninentional humor is excellent. I really relate to his generally anxious disposition even as a child. My childhood worries were about how adults on the news knew such big words and whether I'd ever know and remember them.
I'd take 100% authenticity over human empathy every day of the week in terms of Louis's personality. His critical nature is the endearing essence of his work and life it seems, to his credit.
Absolutely love Lou!! He's my surrogate uncle in my mind, always there to give me good advice lol. You guys have literally made my morning already. This will be on repeat ALL DAY!
❤ let me know your thoughts
I've just subscribed to your channel Steven - so far have watched this interview with Louis, and your recent one with Stephen Fry. I love your interviewing style where you just listen and let your guests tell their story honestly. Really glad to have discovered this channel! 😃
me too!
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Can’t believe the amount of successful people who come on, especially the ones who are professional speakers, that confess to having some form of social anxiety. Just reiterates how successful people can come from anywhere and that anyone can rise to success if they truly want.
Unendingly curious, ambiverted, preoccupied with the bad but coasting through a routined life as a loveable weirdo? Bless Louis explaining the neurodivergent experience so well.
So relatable. Intelligent, humble, funny and very awkwardly British which the majority of Brits can identify with. The sort of guy you wish was your uncle or dad 🤣. Great programmes and brilliant books (and I wouldn't identify myself as a massive reader), definitely need more Louis's in this world 👍
Totally get where you're coming from. I'm not British but Australian, but some cultures are not comfortable with promoting themselves and and aggrandising. Particularly the British and for that we are forever grateful!
I saw him in The North Pole pub in West London near the BBC sat on his own having a pint where me and others used to sit just over 20 years ago. I was already familiar with his work up to that point but did not want to disturb him by saying hello. He already had a strong reputation for his work at that point.
Utterly refreshing to listen to someone who’s comfortably ambivalent and content with his own share of everyone’s human vulnerabilities, without todays prerequisite of showy drama or loud egos.
Just like Steven in fact! No shouty egos or green Bugattis and I particularly liked his hint at tacitly acknowledging the insidiousness of academic snobbery.
We need more healthy normal, open-mindedness attitude as society gets increasingly polarised (dangerous). Love the balance this interview gave. Thank you Steven!👏👏👏
Steven you asked fantastic intimate questions, which challenged Louis at times. Your own personal development is clearly shining through 👏👏
40:43 the phrase he’s looking for is “Chasing the Dopamine”. Every time someone says “good job” that is a dopamine hit. I find often times with my Aspergers/ADHD combination I have to be very careful not to chase dopamine in negative ways, and positive dopamine hits can also be dangerously addictive. Our brains don’t work like neurotypical people. I also like the way he says “what makes me great at work makes me bad at life”. That hits deep and it is so true.
So appreciating this interview. Louie has always been extremely guarded in other interviews and I longed to see the real person
I love Louis for his vulnerability and authenticity. Just little things are a giveaway to his sensitivity and lack of putting on the style. I liked you both together as you both expressed a certain fragility and not knowing of how to "do life". I came away feeling blessed that there are men like you, like my sons in this world.