Cotton Saturn Shoot Em Up Collection Preview
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The ultimate Cotton Saturn Tribute Shoot Em Up Collection Preview! Originally released in Arcades and for the Sega Saturn by SUCCESS, Cotton 2, Cotton Boomerang, and Guardian Force are three very expensive retro games to collect. And the Sega Saturn emulation on all three is quite poor. Now these three rare shmups are getting a Sony PS4, Nintendo Switch, and Steam release on PC.
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A preview of all 3 Saturn games on the upcoming Cotton Saturn Guardian Force Tribute Collection, I go in-depth with each game. What makes Cotton 2 and Cotton Boomerang different? Is it worth playing both? And what about Guardian Force, a hidden gem and multiplayer shooter that's as fun as almost anything on the Saturn. Find out if this Cotton Saturn Tribute Shoot Em Up Collection is right for you.
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Finally can relive my teen years! My mom and I loved Cotton. She passed when I was a teen so this will be really special to have. Thank for the great video Junkie!
That's such a cool story and I'm sorry to hear you lost her young. My gparents raised me and were not into gaming, so I didn't share any experiences like that with them. Only friends. Always thought it was cool for those who grew up playing games with their parents.
Finally we'll be able to play these long-lost Saturn gems! Quite a few masterpiece games are stranded on the Saturn, so it's good to see some of them trickle onto the Switch every now and then.
At least play them properly yeah. It was pretty annoying trying them on emulators this week, the results were not the best. I definitely got my copy.
I have a Satiator loaded with all these classics I'm very much on the fence about the Switch collection for that reason
@@PopeTheRevXXVIII if you have a Saturn + Satiator there’s no reason for you to buy this collection. No matter how good the emulation will be it’s not better than playing these games on original hardware, and the Saturn controller has a much better d pad.
@@arioca I use the Retro bit wireless pad. I could literally play the Switch version with the same controller. But nothing beats original hardware
@@PopeTheRevXXVIII Yeah but you'll get even more input lag with a wireless controller + emulation on the Switch. The Saturn is the way to go if you have the system since all these games were made on the ST-V arcade board that's practically the Saturn hardware.
Ahhhh yes, the return of the legendary Cotton series, one of several HUNDRED icons in the Magical Girl genre.
This is an awesome preview video and I know I'm coming at it two years late but I'm starting to get into the Cotton series and this was a really helpful find! Guardian Force looks awesome I think it's biggest downfall was probably that it has such a generic name that a lot of people passed it over. It looks awesome though and I really want to try it out!!
I see you're a fan of Guardian Force, a man of taste! I am looking forward for this collection as well. I like the Cotton series, they're great games, but I have to admit the main reason I want this package is Guardian Force. I had to sell my Saturn copy and then the price skyrocketed, and it was cheaper for me to buy a MODE than paying the insane prices people are charging for this game nowadays. I honestly hope the entire Saturn library gets ported to consoles, because there are so many good games there, and a lot of people just never get to know them.
How nice, just got a copy of the Cotton remastered (waiting to be delivered), can't wait to get this one too. Thanks for this preview, awaiting for your review when possible 😊
That's great to hear, I hope you enjoy it. Yes, if the demand is there and people are interested enough, I will certainly do a review of the collection once it's out.
saturn is such an enigmatic system. great work mr shmup. worryingly enjoying your alter ego there.
Timmy is only meant to be enjoyed in small doses lol. He went a bit overboard for this one.
That's some clean chroma key and editing all around Junkie. Personally I've never even seen it played this one and it looks pretty different to everything I know. Glad to see your doing good, hope you're well. Keep up the good work.
Hey man, good to see you on here! I hope you're doing well too as I know you've had your hands full. It wasn't bad for a first try on the green screen, though I need to iron it out and removed the creases which will help. I'm hoping to up the production value with it and not just use it for cheeseball stuff haha. Please don't lose touch I am always glad to see you are hanging in there.
Great video, great info as always --- I'm glad to see that you like Guardian Force, SJ! Definitely one of my favorite Saturn shmups, I really love the turret action with those 1/4-turns you describe, and the difficulty level is just right. Pretty unique game. So are the Cotton games, I love em! I imported these games for Saturn back in the 90s, and my Saturn is always hooked up and ready to play -- but I still instantly pre-ordered this PS4 re-release, to support Success and their initiative to bring these great games to a new audience, in an inexpensive package. Shmup fans unite!
These are great news buddy, thanks again for the heads up and sharing this fantastic video! I will definitely get it, I want to play Guardian Force so badly!
Yes! If you've never played GF please try it out. I'm sure you will on the collection. It's a ton of fun. The Switch version is still pending pre-order status but I'm sure it will be live again soon.
@@ShmupJunkie Just noticed that, I will patiently then since my OCD won’t let me order the PS4 version 😅
immaculate job! your commentary does a great job heightening the intensity of the music and gameplay, with the skit segments in between serving as a nice breather with how cheesy and fun they are
You're the first RUclipsr I've heard actually talk about the fighting game controls in Cotton, even though they are detailed in the manual. I guess we know that most are either emulating, not reading the manual, or even reading a FAQ. To be fair, you don't really need to (nor is it really an option) in modern games, but this was absolutely vital up until the 128-bit generation. Cheers to you! #shmupsareshooters
That’s pretty odd it’s common knowledge I thought the game used controls like that. Even the hardcore 101 article talks about it. Guess most just don’t care to explore it that deeply. It’s kind of like Ai Cho Aniki that way it makes it unique. I’m glad you noticed though so thank you 🤟 #shmupsareshooters
Nice for someone to acknowledge the importance of manuals. Sadly lost in today's era.
The Saturn was such 2D powerhouse and it shows in these titles. The sprite scaling and rotation effects look super cool and always remind why I love these kind of games.
I recently received my Cotton Reboot and like it a lot but these titles look deep and interesting in their execution and the graphics are so distinctive. The change in gameplay styles between the two Cotton games gives this collection some amazing variety…and as for Guardian Force….no idea how this title passed me by but I can’t wait to play it. Like Soukyugurentai, another Saturn hidden gem and this collection gives people a perfect opportunity to play this rather than shelling out for the originals.
As always, another brilliant video and oooh the possibilities of that green screen🤩
I'm glad the vid really helped get you excited for the games, as I agree there are many who haven't played them yet, especially Guardian Force. And likely wouldn't given how complex or expensive it is to do it. So it's welcome collection. You'll definitely dig Guardian Force it's really a hidden gem like you say along with Souky. I promise I'll try to make proper use of the green screen too and not just for cheeseball stuff like this one haha. I've got some good ideas for improving future videos with it.
@@ShmupJunkie You always have a contagious way of sharing your excitement for these games and your insight is always welcome….although my wallet is lighter because of it 😆
Can’t wait for the next vid, keep up the amazing work👏👏
I hope that the port delivers. I absolutely love Cotton for PCE and have wanted to play 2 and boomerang for years. Love the channel and the breakdowns of gameplay and ports. Keep it up!
I really hope so too and will be testing it pretty thoroughly once it's out. If there is enough demand after this video I'll certainly make a review for it.
Great preview, Junkie! So exciting to see some Saturn gems being redone like this, I'm very interested in trying these for the first time!
Thanks dude. Knowing you haven't gotten to play many Cotton games, it'll be interesting to see what you think. They definitely have a feel all their own and not like a lot of other side scrollers. Some of the nicest graphics on the Saturn too.
Love your channel the content is fantastic for shmup fans and people new to shmups
Thank you! I am definitely trying my best to keep improving things every week.
So great for this compil 💥💥💥💥
Just for guardian force this is so excellent 👍👍
Hope for another compil like this one with blast wind 🥳🥳
Yeah, Guardian Force is fantastic. I'm looking forward to testing these games once they come out. Blast Wind is another good one, maybe someday with another Technosoft collection.
Thanks, i pre-ordered the collection on Play-Asia but i must confess that i barely know the original Saturn games, but as i Love Cute'em ups and Cotton, i couldn't miss this physical version on PS4. Now that i've seen your video, knowing your opinion can be trusted 101%, i have a better grasp of what we'll get at release.
I'm glad the video helped you see the games more in-depth and decide if it's a good buy for you. It's why I make these and am glad I did. As long as the final release is ported well, which I guess we won't know until it's out and I can test it, at least the games themselves are certainly worthy.
This is one of the best RUclips videos on cotton I've bought the cotton reboot because of Shmup Junkie
Damn, Guardian Force looks like an insane, sped-up twitchy Aurail. I'm in!
GF is rad man, you can't go wrong. Still on of my fav Saturn games.
Cotton is my favorite cute-em-up series! It may not be the best, but I love these games so much! So glad they'll be way more accessible now
It’s certainly one of the best and very unique in terms of gameplay. It’s different enough to separate itself from most others in the genre.
Awesome video! Your passion is so contagious that it made me buy multiple games like Esp Ra De, The cotton Reboot, among others. The one that has surprised me the most is the Aleste Collection. Those game are really fun! Keep up the good work!!
MR FINAL TIGER....
as far as emulation is concerned you certainly are correct.
As you know I run EVERYTHING off of a phone and a 8bitdo mini controller hanging from my interior mirror in my car due to having to sell my collection (hey I chose medium settin for life ok?!)
- I love cotton on the Saturn but running them here at home....yeah. you ain't wrong.
Cheers Mr final tiger. You have a green screen. I need one of these and appropriate software for my channel and viewers/supporters....
Take care
See you next time.
Mr final tiger.
Back in the day, I remember the Cotton games on the Saturn being very hard to get here in the US. The importer that I mainly dealt with got in about five or so copies of 2, and maybe the same for Boomerang when it came out. Employees there snapped them up and they never restocked. Needless to say, I’m all over this release!
I can imagine it was slim picking at the import store. I was always there waiting day one for big releases to grab one before they were gone. I guess when it comes to limited release some things haven't changed all that much. But now the digital option helps out a lot. I don't think I ever got to own either Cotton game on Saturn back in the day when it released.
@@ShmupJunkie I was really into fighting games back then and import prices for most games ended up costing about $100 per game after shipping. My friends and I would put hundreds of hours into each fighting game that came out and shooters, as we called them back then, only were bought when we were committed to playing them thoroughly. We would beat them and then shelve them, which was truly the wrong way to enjoy them. I passed on Silvergun because of this and ended up regretting it. When one of my friends got to Japan in the late 90’s, he to,d me how shooters were everywhere and how limited our exposure was depending on the US magazines like Gamefan to clue us into the greats. I depended on him from then on to tell me what was ‘hot’ in their arcades. Lots of conversations at 3AM because of the time difference on a US Air Force line, which had free international. 🤣
@@54321ZachMr $100 a game? Carts or CD releases? I remember seeing things like Mario 64 go for that in the suburbs. The systems I imported games for were the ones it was mandatory: PCE/Turbo, Saturn and Dreamcast. I had them shipped from a company in Brooklyn. They bought from a distributor and the products were usually roughly the same as the price in Japan. $35-60.
@@robertrada4783 I ordered most of my games from Diehard Gamers Club in California. It started with Street Fighter II on Super Famicom which ran me about $120 with Next Day Air. Over the years, I ordered for basically all consoles except the PC Engine titles. I had a friend that claimed sole authority on that one, as he loved all things for it. He had the Supergrafx at launch with all of the games. We enjoyed Ghouls N' Ghosts the most. Over the years, I imported games for every system. The carts were the most expensive. When disc based imports hit, I want to say the median price for them ran $70-80 and of course $20 for next day air for each. My Neo Geo games I got from NCS out of New York. $250 for Samurai Showdown 2 was the big game for that system. I later moved to Neo CD, and those ran far cheaper at about $60 a title. Load times were a pain on that one, but having the soundtracks on the games to be able to listen in a car were fun.
@@54321ZachMr Ahhhhh, Diehard. They were always pretty pricey. Simultaneously, they were one of the few that advertised and reached out to customers across the country via magazine ads. Those ads weren’t free and I totally get it. If they didn’t exist, A LOT of Americans would never have played Japanese exclusives. NCS happens to be who I was referring to. 👌 I had Neo Geo CD for a a very short while. Those load times were a trip. I remember it not being as bad with games like Metal Slug. It was specifically the fighting games that suffered for inherent reasons. Do I recall correctly that the NGCD control pad wasn’t that good? It’s dawning on me that MOST of my PCE games were “cash in an envelope” purchases from collectors and traders on prodigy bulletin boards and email lists. The good ol’ days.
Seriously, Cotton 2 is the most beautiful shmup i have ever seen. Its a pity saturn cannot be 100% emulated :(
It really is a looker! And yes, Saturn emu has never been quite there. So this collection is going to be, at least hopefully if it's a good port, be the best way to play them aside from having the real thing. Including digital on Steam!
Amazing video, Junkie! I don't lurk around on YT maybe as much as I should, but I have to say that I have NEVER seen anyone talk about Guardian Force! I own it for the Saturn and I absolutely LOVE it! Oh my GYYoD, that is indeed the coolest weapon! Almost like tank turret meets Rygar's diskarmor! Now I wanna go play it, but I should probably go to bed...
Oh, love that R-Type art on your wall
Yes I love it too. It's by Dan Mumford and a limited print. I was lucky to grab it while I could and it's one of my fav pieces.
I didn't know about the Cotton games until I saw your comparison video a few months ago. Thus far, all the games look amazing and the music sounds wicked cool. I haven't bought the first one yet because I'm waiting for it to go on sale (I'm a cheapskate now that I'm older) but the reboot is definitely on my to buy list. The final verdict for these two will have to wait until I see your tribute review in October.
BTW, I found it odd that Timmy didn't correct you after you said tootsie rolls. They're Willows.
Haha, yeah I noticed that later. He corrected me in the first videos you're right. Maybe he was too flabbergasted from being shot down by a fake fireball. I went full cheese on that intro. I'm definitely going to lag test the Switch release once it's out, and put it through it's paces, so we will see how it measures up to the original on Saturn. I'm looking forward to it too.
Beautiful video really enjoying the remaster recently released. Looking forward to this !
Thanks! Yes the Reboot is excellent and one of my fav releases this year. I'm looking forward to this collection too and glad it's also getting a Steam release.
Welp, at least you gave me time to save up before ordering another great collection.👍Thanks Junkie!!!
That is awesome! The Saturn Cotton games look to be the best ones in the series. I've only played the reboot and SNES version so far.
I will always have a soft spot for the original game, especially with it's amazing soundtrack on the PC Engine, but yeah, the 2 games on Saturn are fantastic. And in high demand for good reason. So this will be a great collection to finally have for modern consoles.
It is interesting to see how Switch fairs with Saturn emulation. I suspect something more of a port, like 3DS Sega Ages.
I'm very curious and hoping to see what happens. They can't just use existing emulators since none of them work correctly and have issues, so they would have to reprogram these or make their own. Will be testing them pretty thoroughly once it's finally out.
Wow the soundtracks for these games are amazing.
Yep, they always have been. The original is still my all time favorite but they're all pretty excellent all around.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos! You fully deserve your success my friend and I am happy to have been able to see this evolution over time. Can't wait for you to reach 100k subscribers and more 😊
Thanks my friend. I wish to reach that too someday in the far future haha, it means shmups have definitely made a big comeback. Here's hoping!
I was on the fence about buying Cotton Reboot for NSW. I still am, but I think I'll give it a chance. This new Cotton collection however? Definitely worth it, especially Guardian Force. Thank you for the coverage.
I rly believe you have the most hilarious cheesy green screen humor on YT. It's not just insane, the jokes are well thought out and you definitely enjoy what you, so that energy reaches fans.
Thanks! Yeah I just got this green screen a week ago, so I'm looking forward to what I can mess around with and do with it. I'll definitely take advantage without going overboard. And you're welcome, I'm glad to make these and do have fun with it. It's really hard work but also great seeing them come together in the end.
"Will be released at the end of September."
Just in time for my birthday :)
Now that's a quality gift... drop some hints to friends haha. Gift Cards for Play-Asia goes on the wish list.
I don't mod my consoles so my way of playing this gem is via backup CD....this is a tough one for me because the hit box is huge and things come from every direction. but the visuals are so stunning that I keep playing it over and over. Thank you for yet another really high quality video...thanks Shmup..!
You're welcome. And one thing I learned about the hitbox, at least in Boomerang, is it's smaller than it seems. At least compared to Cotton 2 though I could be wrong. I've grazed a lot of really close bullets swearing they'd have hit me but they didn't. The hard part is keeping track of your actual hitbox with such a large character. At least this new collection will make it a lot easier to practice and progress in the game vs on original hardware. The convenience features are always welcome. And thank you for watching and supporting btw, it's much appreciated.
Guardian Force is friggin ace and one of my fave saturn shooters. Can’t wait to have it on the go. Great video as always and fair play for the fund. Real stand-up thing to do 👍
This game would’ve been ideal for me back in the 90’s. I’m 43 and it sounds too complex. Im sure it’s an awesome game but I just want to press and hold the fire button. Thanks for the awesome video junkie. You are my new favorite gametuber.
Good info I never knew on cotton 2 on Sega saturn 😀
I love your videos about Cotton. I'm getting new informations about the feanchise here. :)
You're welcome, this is like the 3rd Cotton video I've done already. Hopefully people aren't getting tired of them, but these games keep coming!
@@ShmupJunkie Keep doing! They're funny! :D
lol at that intro dude. beautiful
Haven’t used that green screen since it was too much work. But it was fun messing around and I’m sure I’ll need it again someday.
I really do wish we could get more proper collections of hard to find games like these, especially Saturn games, considering how much of a brick wall Saturn emulation has hit for the past couple years. When I learn to code, I'd hope to one day take a crack at getting a proper emulation project going... but who knows if I'm smart enough...
Anyways, I never realized just how much depth the Cotton games had! I always just thought they were just some charming, fun little cute-em-ups, but it's awesome to know that they have the kind of depth that would give Treasure a run for their money. Now I have to get this collection. Thanks Junkie!
I’m glad it helped you see the games a bit more in depth. A lot of people expect it to be a very basic game so they don’t look into the mechanics even though the original Cotton was complex too. So it makes sense. I’m actually going to be talking about that in my next video on learning to shmup. Properly learning your character and the game’s mechanics before diving into trying to learn the rest of the game and levels. Otherwise it’s like playing it handicapped. Really fun games though and if you do get it I hope you enjoy it.
I have to admit I do like a blast on the Cotton games. I'm pretty bad at them though so I'll definitely take some of these tips on board. Great video mate, the green screen is taking it up a level, as if it even needed to!
Thanks man. And yeah, I've found that the biggest obstacle to most in Cotton games is not learning it's systems and playing how it's intended. They are unorthodox shmups and playing them like a normal one makes them a lot harder than designed. The original was like that too, you had to learn the resource management to really make headway with it.
Always the best channel to learn about shooters (shmups), Is a sure go with this collection.
Great video! Very well put together.
Hey thanks dude. I hope it was a good preview of these three games for you. And they just announced even more Cotton games coming it’s like non stop.
Nice video. My biggest shmup blind spot is Saturn games, so I welcome any decent ports.
Reboot has become my go to game. This upcoming collection has me excited.
I literally just got both cotton reboot for the Switch and cotton 2 for the saturn out the mail today!
Nice! It's always nice to have the original games too if you're into collecting them. I still don't own Boomerang though I've looked for some good deals in the past.
Thanks for letting me now there's a Guardian Force rerelease with some bonus games!
I live in a crime-ridden city so I always walk around with a green yoyo of death in my pocket.
Where did you pick up that bad boy? I could use one here on the mean streets of Orange County 😂
Another great video! I'm looking forward to getting this on the Switch! Never tried Cotton 2 before. Looks very cool and unique. I love Guardian Force too! If I remember correctly, at the time there wasn't too much hype around it and it wasn't too pricey. Crazy how you can never predict which game will become super rare/expensive. Sad part of the hobby these days is if you miss out on something back when it was released, prices are just insane now. Love these new re-releases of games that'd be otherwise impossible to get due to price and/or rarity.
Great shooter for the Switch. Thanks for the video!!! Great... Luckily they improved the input lag problems....
very excited for this release, especially for guardian force. I think Ps4 is going to be the new king of shmups after its lifecycle.
Love the greenscreen stuff, really peps things up even more.
Thanks. I'm hoping to use it for improving things overall and making it more interesting, not just the cheeseball antics here. It's got potential!
@@ShmupJunkie I personally can't get enough of the cheeseball antics.
As a teenager in the 90's I would have played the heck out of these games. But I am 43 now and my reaction speed gets slower with every year. I dont think I would get very far!
We are all getting much slower, and we about share the same age. I have to counter that loss of reflex with practice and memo, just like anything else that I've grown too old to do as well as I used to haha. But I play them for the sheer enjoyment of it all regardless.
@@ShmupJunkie I really appreciated your review! I've subscribed to your channel and I look forward to discovering shmups that aren't quite as brutal. I gravitate toward the ones with pixel art and catchy music. And I don't care for bullet hell.
Timmy is the biggest cotton fan !
He so is haha. I think more than anything cause he likes wearing that dumb wig.
I'm so grabbing this! I'm still waiting on my cotton reboot collector's edition from strictly limited and I can't wait for that to show up either
A lot of people have been getting their reboot copies lately so I’d think yours is coming very soon too.
@@ShmupJunkie I hope you're right I should also be receiving my no more heroes 1&2 collectors edition from limited run some time soon as well!
just a headsUP- StricltyLimited announced a Tease at More COTTON~!!
Cotton 100 & Cotton Panarama Cotton along side the other two Cotton in this video
so here's Hopeing for more Cotton videos on your channel soon~!?! :O
Yeah I saw that! Good times for all Cotton fans. I think I’m now Cottoned out for a while I’ve got too many videos of them already 🤣 the last one wasn’t so popular. But I certainly won’t miss talking about it and letting everyone know they are coming. Especially Panorama which is a really cool one. I’ve got an upcoming vid in Oct for can’t miss games that just released or are coming soon. And I’m definitely going to mention this new announcement and show the games a bit for those unfamiliar, even if I don’t do a full video for them.
I love your channel. Keep up the great work!!!
you have such an underrated channel!
Slowly getting there! Growing like a weed. RUclips is hard work but I'm enjoying it too.
@@ShmupJunkie keep up the great work, you've helped me discover some great shmups on various systems. Looking forward to receiving this collection
Lmao epic intro. The yoyo in Guardian Force reminds me of Brownie's yoyo in Contra Hard Corps(Sega MD/Genesis)
I was worried I went a bit overboard with it haha, but it was intentionally cheesy so I just went with it.
tremendous video !, thanks for those good games that you show and suggest Greetings from Colombia
Thank you 🙏 And greetings to you from Southern California 🤟
Lol I can see some crazy times with Timmy on that green screen coming. I'm really looking forward to the saturn tribute collection. Love cotton series but never tried any of these ones. Remember watching Mark at classic game room reviewing guardian force and thinking that game looks sick. Unfortunately I don't have a saturn nor the money to pony up for these games, so yeah this is one of my most anticipated releases this year and the wait is almost over
Yes, in terms of the Cotton series, I think this next collection is the most important in terms of no other good way to play these without modifying a real Saturn. So I'm looking forward to it. I remember watching that old classic gameroom video too and glad he agreed and saw how cool the game was. You can bet I will making more use of that green screen, and not always in cheesy ways haha.
@@ShmupJunkie Pocky and Rocky Reshrined is the other game I can't wait for. Will you be picking that up too? Not really seen a lot of people talking about it.
It's on my next purchase list, can never have enough Cotton
And there is still a new Cotton Rock n Roll game coming too!
Killer video dude and that green screen works awesome.
Guardian Force is a game I drooled over back in the Saturn days being a PS One owner, it was one of a few Shmups and fighting games I really wished had made their way to PS One, the platform I owned. I’ve never seen Guardian Force game play before your video and love what I see, and am definitely psyched for it on PS4 at some point. Also love that soundtrack, I’m a big Pulp Fiction fan, as I know you are 😎💪🦎
In all honesty Cotton never appealed to me back in the day as one it was on Saturn, which I never owned, and two it looked way to cute 😂, but seeing this video definitely sparks true that old saying “don’t judge a book by it’s cover”. Damn was I wrong to judge it on looks alone 😖. it looks amazing 🤩 and reminds me a lot of Ghouls N Goblins from a sprite and aesthetics perspective. I love the tunes as well and find myself surprised in saying I definitely will pick these up as soon as finances permit. Excellent work my friend and I want that Team Timmee T when it launches 😎💪. I’ll try to catch up some more in the week. Having a bad day but your vids have got me motivated, as they always do 😎💪🦎
What makes me glad most is that I can make a rough day just a bit better for you and provide some entertainment. Making the videos often provides me with a needed distraction and hobby as well. Just a note on this Saturn collection, I measured it having some pretty excessive input delay of 10-12 frames. Much worse than most anything that’s come before. The games are cool but the port work turned out pretty lazy. So maybe hold off if it’s an issue until they patch it. Wouldn’t want you to jump in head first without at least knowing.
@@ShmupJunkie Appreciate the feedback mate, and noted. I'll hold off for sure.
Hey junkie! You forgot one other way we can play these games! Some of us own a sega stv arcade board and own the carts they originally came on.😆 I bought a die hard arcade for $100 five years ago. Imported the games for around $75 from Japan
Awesome Video. I just pre-ordered!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! And I hope the final product turns out to be a good port as well, which I'll look forward to testing when it does too.
Oh well I just placed my order at Play Asia, but as an investment, I will never open it. Darn it, I should have ordered 2, but it's too late now, I won't pay again for shipping. Wish I could amend order. I'd like to play one and keep one as investment for my showpiece shelf. I'll try Boomerang on Mednafen now and see how bad it is.
It’s not that bad. It’s playable. But for me the sound issues and hiccups were a reason to want a proper version.
preorder it when it's announce i was waiting for this one, and Cotton Rock And Roll 30th Anniversary :D
Fantastic video per usual, and the editing is top notch. I will say that these games (and most saturn games) actually can be reliably emulated with the Beetle Saturn core on Retroarch. It's a bit barebones and requires some decent PC specs, but it tends to run whatever you throw at it without much fuss.
I had no luck at all using Beetle Saturn on Retorarch this week when I tried, and I have a very beefy PC already for my video editing. Maybe there are settings that can be adjusted somewhere in Retroarch to improve it, but I had audio issues right off the bat in the menus. Mednafen worked the best out of what I happened to try.
@@ShmupJunkie Hm, odd. I tried out the two cotton games in Beetle just earlier and they ran great for me, so I'm thinking it's an issue of settings. Is runahead turned off?
@@shmupsheep7102 I normally have run ahead on 2-3 frames but I haven’t tried turning it off
@@ShmupJunkie There's no way Beetle Saturn is playable with runahead on. Runhead pretty much doubles the emulator's cpu load as far as I know.
awesome review, got my hands on one :)
Thanks. More of a preview actually I just wanted to cover the games and what they were all about before the release. I never did get around to reviewing how the port and emulation turned out. But I thought this video explored the games really well. The new cotton rock n roll came out really good!
lol thanks for explaining this game to me.
I've been playing this game for a couple months like a standard shooter and only using the throw!
Didn't know this was coming. Definitely preordering when it goes live! 👍
That Guardian Force looks right up my street - herd of it in the past, but never bothered looking into it before for some reason. Would probably get this collection on switch so I can use the Retro-Bit Saturn pad with it. As always - great show! 👍😎
Just got my English physical of Cotton Reboot yesterday, haven't even gotten a chance to deep dive into it yet and I'm already getting ready to shell out the dough for this. 🤣
Yeah perfect timing right. The US Reboot finally starts arriving for everyone and we have a new one to hit. Guess we can't complain. They'll keep comin' long as we keep buyin'.
Saturn is maybe hard to emulate properly but you can play these 3 games via Mame and they work great. Still I'm going to buy this collection for my ps4 for sure :)
Definitely go the PS4 route, as I have been hearing early reports the emulation work is on the lazy side and the input delay on the Switch is somewhat excessive. I'll be able to verify it once I get my copy.
Very informative video as always Shmup Junkie🤘🏻I’ve been thinking of picking this up but the lag horror stories have stopped me taking the plunge.. did you ever do a lag frame test for this one, mate? Your Psikyo one was great✌🏻
The lag stories are justified, they're in fact quite high at 9-10+. I did test it myself and while they did make some improvements since, not by a large margin. Performance wise it's not the best collection. Not compared to Reboot or Rock n Roll which were great.
@@ShmupJunkie ah ok, cheers for clarifying👍🏻I will give it a miss, then. Which is a shame as it could’ve been a great collection on the cheap!
Damn, I'm seeing these games for the first time and all I can think is that not a single modern shmup, indie or not, has come close to looking this good, there's just something about those staurn games, the rendering has so much depth it feels like my brain is sucking up the visulas like a milkshake!
Saturn was definitely the king of 2D games and I do miss it. Not really a huge fan of the very pre-canned looking 3D games that are more common now. I know it makes it easier to port them all across all the consoles and on PC, but they do lose that hand drawn and unique look. I did like the new Reboot for that reason, as they kept it 2D even if modern, and it looked great.
I've always felt that PC Engine & Saturn shmups look better and are more fun than any shmup since, despite what all the Cave & bullet hell fans say. Visuals, music/sound, gameplay, everything...
Well emulating these saturn cotton games on Bizhawk and "Beetle Saturn" core on retroarch is not a problem to me, they are running smoothly and plays with no issues.
I want a new cotton game to come out JUST to see you make more cotton skits they rule.
Have you already reviewed panorama cotton by the way? I was looking for it thank you!
Yes I reviewed it in the every mega drive shooter video. Plus it was in my latest best 16bit shooters video nominated for most technically impressive.
@@ShmupJunkie thank you! I remember hearing you say it was technically impressive compared to some fantasy star rip off or something I usually listen to your videos while I work haha!
Wow, I didn't know that they were making a collection of the other Cotton games from the Saturn after doing the Reboot. Now I totally need to get this and the reboot.
Good to see Timmy enjoy his new green screen!
He sure is and we are just getting started! It was my first attempt so I'm sure I'll get better and more natural at it as I play with it more.
Oh hey! It's always good time seeing Timmy in the red wig! XD
Nice collection, if it gets an EU PSN (digital) release, I'll support the devs. Great review👌
It's coming to Steam digital, that I know. I'm not sure about their western release plans, but if it's similar to what happened with Reboot it should be coming afterward.
Guardian force looks rad! Can't wait for this to drop.
If you’ve never played GF then for sure it’s worth checking out. The emulation on mednafen is pretty good until it crashed on me, so you could totally give it some play time and see if you dig it too and want to own it.
Oh yes! More Cotton is always a great thing - loving the reboot.
I never had a Saturn, so I'm looking forward to this.
The bubble system in 2 sounds like crazy fun.
We are inundated with Cotton games all of a sudden the last couple years. Another new one coming soon called Rock n Roll as well. A good time for Cotton fans and this collection is some of the best they made, even if I always will have a soft spot for the original.
Never paid Guardian Force much attention over the years but it looks really great.
Have never played the Saturn version. Can't wait. Woo hoo 😄😄😄
I do have to give Nintendo credit here.... Cotton, plus the thousands of other great shmups and games in general, pushes the switch into" You want it, we got it" territory..... I LOVE IT. Also, I love Boomerang.... very fun!!!
I'm definitely going for this one and sale off my original copies for the Saturn for extra cash.
Please wait! Did you see my community post a few days ago on the extremely high input lag of this collection? I don’t normally make a big deal but it’s over 10-11 frames on these games. Quite extreme. They did say they will look into it but I don’t expect miracles. My upcoming video will mention it and warn people. The games are still great of course, but if you own the originals maybe hold off until it’s hopefully fixed here or a better version comes along. Just a heads up as I made this vid as a preview before it released and I tested it.
Oh man Guardian Force alone just got me 😅 You kinda lost me at Street Fighter moves in my shmup...lol...but if boomerang is a bit simpler (like me...lol) then I'm all in 😆 Another great video and I can't wait to see what comes next with that green screen 🔥🥰
I absolutely love the Cotton series and even paid a MINT for snes cotton game. Now I bought the Cotton Box set awhile back....is Play Asia offering a similar deal for this collection??
Good question I think there will be some kind of limited set as well yeah. But it’s not up for preorder yet that I saw. I was able to preorder a regular switch copy though.
If there won't be any major issues with the ports, this will be an Instant buy for me as soon as the package hits the PC market.
I was waiting for you to call Guardian Force a hidden gem :D. Well you did without saying it, hehe.
Love this collection. The only one I don't have on my saturn is cotton boomerang. Can't wait to finally play it. Also looking forward to the new cotton rock n roll.
Awesome video guys
Thanks! And Timmay says thanks as well! 😬
Like always Great video...Take my money!!!
Lol, well, at least BEEP can take your money. And hopefully keep the new releases coming.
Seems like Cotton Reboot's small hitbox is not as abrupt as it seemed. Since the small hitbox had been since Cotton Boomerang. How ahead of its time were Cotton games again? I think we haven't given Cotton series more credit than it deserves in terms of shmup advancements all the while we talk about CAVE and Raizing.
I honestly didn't realize myself how small it was in Boomerang for the larger characters until this week. Editing my videos and seeing them that way, you can really tell how many shots I swear would have killed me did not. I'm not sure how far back smaller hitboxes in Horis go but it would be interesting to try and trace it back farther and keep track.
While i don't love Timmy, I still think it's a very good approach for those of us that kinda suck at shmups but love the pretty colours and exploding stuff. Can't wait to try Cotton 2!
Definitely a must buy, but I'll probably still play on the Saturn (Pseudo Saturn Kai 😂).
I'm very much a rookie in this series as I just played these for the first time a few months ago. I'm glad we're seeing a lot of classic shmups showing up on these shores lately!