In my humble opinion, as good as JPJ's bass work on Ramble on is, this is his absolute best. In the song it feels like he is playing music with bullets. Those bass thumps literally makes the song.
JPJ was such a versatile bassist. His pick playing was amazing. Whether he was using a soft or hard plectrum, his feel and rhythm for the song was spot on.
"As soon as I heard John Bonham play I knew this was going to be great. We locked together as a team immediately." -Jones recalling the first time the band met and played together
@@JC-vj4ln Good comparison, both Zep and Maiden share some influences leading back to the early British prog rock/folk rock scene - even if they are mainly hard rock bands - and it comes through in their songwriting and musicianship.
Wow! This shows how fantastic a bassist JPJ truly is. Between JPJ and Bonham remove one from the equation of what Led Zeppelin was, and they could not go on as they were. RIP JHB.
Thank you! I could quite happily listen to an entire LZ catalog of JB & JPJ. I love the entire band, but it always irks me how the cameras and the spotlights lingered on P&P instead of capturing more of the magic the rhythm section was conjuring up.
As great of a musician that JPJ was/is his stage presence didn’t exactly scream for the cameras attention. He’d stand inside the same 3 ft diameter circle for an entire 3.5 hour show with this face 😑 I too would’ve liked to have seen the more Bonham though.
@ezsmith3765 ha, that's a fair point. I think he was happy to play and didn't need to showboat. In my opinion JPJ had the best seat in the house, watching the drums! 🥁
Listen to this amazing isolate of the rhythm section from Carouselambra (taped at ABBA's Polar Studio in Stockholm in December 1978). Completely amazing funky playing and such cool interplay between them - much of this is buried under the guitar and keyboards in the final mix of the song: ruclips.net/video/qgosr8PXJv0/видео.html
Absolute mastery. Like Squire/Bruford of Yes isolated CTTE tracks this one sounds like a complete and supremely magnificent piece. No need for guitar or vocals. In fact guitars and vocals in the original track interfere with or even effectively ruin the joy of experiencing such epic greatness in its purity.
Yes indeed, superb chemistry :;) - or Squire and White on The Gates of Delirium (I haven't heard any isotrax from that one but it's not really needed, the brilliance of Alan White's drumming on that album is too obvious).
Bloody hell, this shows how fecking great a bassist John Paul jones really is ! There’s always elements of his playing you aren’t fully aware of, he was a church organist after all so the harmonic content is gonna be mega 😎👍
Yes, I think it was Dave Grohl who commented about this one: "you can tell Bonzo is taking some chances here, he's pulling at the gears and playing without a safety net". :)
This is amazing. Fantastic work. So nice to hear Joney's bass coming through. Would love to hear you isolate Bonzo's drum track from In My Time of Dying in the future. Keep up the good work!
My goodness, what a masterclass in rthymic power and expression. This is my favorite Zep song and hearing it stripped down to just Jonesy and Bonzo is indeed a real treat!
Simply the best rythm section ever. With Colin Greenwood and Philip Selway from Radiohead, they have been great teachers and influences on my bass and drums playing.
🌠1:17 the Bonzo Fill...aah oh come on ...&. the bass is great with that muted string stuff in between the notes..magic ! one of their top tracks 4 me...
Damn...I can totally see why Page was the only guitar player in the band, John Paul Jones was the bass player and so much more and I'm not talking about all the instruments he played... That bass line is KILLER... And of course John Bonham...
has anyone ever used this track with their own original guitar melodies/harmonies that match this drum and bass? That would be fun as hell!!!! Do _Heart_ _of_ _the_ _Sunrise_ by Yes!
Would love to hear a bass & drum only of “Going to California” or “The Battle of Evermore”. Feedback at 7:29 and a mistake at 8:40. Should have used the volume knob to fade out at 9:48.
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This is yet another example of how Jonesey employed bass picking for percussive effect (Heartbreaker, Song Remains among others) but also because the Alembic was eight strings. And of course, what's an elite mandolin guy like JPJ gonna go with all that?
Besides the fact that the musicians are all top shelf, I think the brilliance of Jimmy Page is that he knew how to construct a song. His studio engineering is among the finest in modern music and many bands followed suit or tried too anyway. JPJ and JB together is the apex and complete backbone to LZ. They carried Jimmy during the live shows...
@@mirkovisi6367 I agree this is one of LZ's better performances, but learning that these two tracks are somehow extracted from (I assume) the final stereo mix in software and not copies from the studio multitrack, i.e. the individual drum and bass tracks, well that eclipses the musical performance in my opinion. It's unbelievable that a software package could do that so well. I mean, the tracks are kind of phasey and not studio quality, but still, considering what is actually accomplished by that software is nothing short of amazing. Great job on this and the other tracks you posted!
@@slave2tyranny But later... hence the influence. Not a comparison. JE could hold his own on bass, but JPJ plays alot of instruments, all 'virtuosotically'.
On this song, JPJ uses an Alembic 8-string bass with a pick. The 8 string king of gives the effect of a guitar and bass playing the same line. He DOES have that aggresive tone that guys like Entwistle and Chris Squire were already employing. Before this record, JPJ's tone was very traditional.
There's a pretty expensive audio editor that does this, I think it came out around 2020. Sorry, don't remember its name or if it's Mac, PC or both. But I know even with its groundbreaking technology, it still isn't easy to get this quality isolation on every song. Some songs require a lot of editing & tweaking and I read it's a difficult program to learn. Google should be able to figure out its name.
In my humble opinion this song was their musical pinnacle.
Agree!!!
Yep, certainly one of their most ambitious songs, and a complete success.
I might agree. It's hard to have a choice. But omg, this is a really high quality set of stems.
Right on Ted
Up there with Black dog, Kashmire, and When the levee breaks
Good example of why John Paul Jones said, "John Bonham wasn't the drummer of Led Zeppelin. He was a quarter of Led Zeppelin." Same goes to you Jonesy.
With this song John Paul Jones is the creator, together with Jimmy Page, of the pattern and format from which all Iron Maiden albums would emerge.
Megadeth too, imho
In my humble opinion, as good as JPJ's bass work on Ramble on is, this is his absolute best. In the song it feels like he is playing music with bullets. Those bass thumps literally makes the song.
And The Musical Box by Genesis
the fully isolated track suggests a lot of double notes , we hear triplets but they're not all the time.
After 35 years of listening to this song thousands of times this is bloody brilliant
What a genius choice for JPJ to use the eight strings bass on this one!
Sounds so funky, like they could have made a completely different 70's sounding disco song using this same bass and drums.
absolutely. Could've perfectly been a metal song too. Perfectly executed simplicity.
John Paul Jones is a rhythmic genius!
JPJ was such a versatile bassist. His pick playing was amazing. Whether he was using a soft or hard plectrum, his feel and rhythm for the song was spot on.
The reason I bought a Jazz bass back in 1991
or fingers…
These 2 are unreal.
"As soon as I heard John Bonham play I knew this was going to be great. We locked together as a team immediately."
-Jones recalling the first time the band met and played together
Yeah, it's freaking unbelievable man, it really is!
With this song John Paul Jones is the creator, together with Jimmy Page, of the pattern and format from which all Iron Maiden albums would emerge.
@@JC-vj4ln Good comparison, both Zep and Maiden share some influences leading back to the early British prog rock/folk rock scene - even if they are mainly hard rock bands - and it comes through in their songwriting and musicianship.
Wow! This shows how fantastic a bassist JPJ truly is. Between JPJ and Bonham remove one from the equation of what Led Zeppelin was, and they could not go on as they were. RIP JHB.
My favourite Zep song, and what a perfect rhythm section. Bonham was a powerhouse.
So many nuances in the bass playing that I’ve never noticed in the complete track. I love this. I knew JPJ was good but this just blows my mind 🤯
The live version from 1979 at Knebworth is even better than this. I wish there was an isolated JPJ and JB take from that live track.
2:28 baddest ass fill ever
Almost, but the one at around 2:57 or :58 sounds like he's playing a 9 piece, but he's playing 4 😮
5:28 is beast mode
It is. That's the musical equivalent of Mike Tyson circa 1986....you don't know what just ran over you.
I love how these guys worked off each other’s talents.
Thank you! I could quite happily listen to an entire LZ catalog of JB & JPJ. I love the entire band, but it always irks me how the cameras and the spotlights lingered on P&P instead of capturing more of the magic the rhythm section was conjuring up.
As great of a musician that JPJ was/is
his stage presence didn’t exactly scream for the cameras attention. He’d stand inside the same 3 ft diameter circle for an entire 3.5 hour show with this face 😑
I too would’ve liked to have seen the more Bonham though.
@ezsmith3765 ha, that's a fair point. I think he was happy to play and didn't need to showboat. In my opinion JPJ had the best seat in the house, watching the drums! 🥁
@@JAMESGANG-f5u Legend has it he tapped his right foot once about halfway through performing this song at Knebworth in 1979.
Fuck man....never listen to this the same way again....
Would love to hear isolated drum and bass from Trampled Under Foot as well.
Yes! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
That's bass pedals and Clavinet.
Listen to this amazing isolate of the rhythm section from Carouselambra (taped at ABBA's Polar Studio in Stockholm in December 1978). Completely amazing funky playing and such cool interplay between them - much of this is buried under the guitar and keyboards in the final mix of the song:
ruclips.net/video/qgosr8PXJv0/видео.html
most tasteful classic rock bass player. He's the best classic rock bassist imho.
Also the best keyboard and mandolin player lol.
5:55 love that little part there.
In my opinion, the best bass playing starts at 9:18 Too bad there is so much subtlety that is lost in the final mix of any song.
This track was always a favorite of mine as is "Hots for Nowhere"
Absolute mastery. Like Squire/Bruford of Yes isolated CTTE tracks this one sounds like a complete and supremely magnificent piece. No need for guitar or vocals. In fact guitars and vocals in the original track interfere with or even effectively ruin the joy of experiencing such epic greatness in its purity.
Yes indeed, superb chemistry :;) - or Squire and White on The Gates of Delirium (I haven't heard any isotrax from that one but it's not really needed, the brilliance of Alan White's drumming on that album is too obvious).
Great comment.... but at the same time, it's heresy!
Bloody hell, this shows how fecking great a bassist John Paul jones really is ! There’s always elements of his playing you aren’t fully aware of, he was a church organist after all so the harmonic content is gonna be mega 😎👍
Those drum fills are off the charts!!!!
Yes, I think it was Dave Grohl who commented about this one: "you can tell Bonzo is taking some chances here, he's pulling at the gears and playing without a safety net". :)
This is amazing. Fantastic work. So nice to hear Joney's bass coming through. Would love to hear you isolate Bonzo's drum track from In My Time of Dying in the future. Keep up the good work!
I heartily second that! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
My goodness, what a masterclass in rthymic power and expression. This is my favorite Zep song and hearing it stripped down to just Jonesy and Bonzo is indeed a real treat!
And to think that neither of them received a writing credit.
Nasty groove, seriously!!!
Simply the best rythm section ever. With Colin Greenwood and Philip Selway from Radiohead, they have been great teachers and influences on my bass and drums playing.
🌠1:17 the Bonzo Fill...aah oh come on ...&. the bass is great with that muted string stuff in between the notes..magic ! one of their top tracks 4 me...
Absolutely amazing fast and powerful sounds from both John Bonham and John Paul Jones, my favourite drummer and favourite bass player
Oh fxck....wlll never be topped. That bass and drums team. That was the pinnacle.
Damn...I can totally see why Page was the only guitar player in the band, John Paul Jones was the bass player and so much more and I'm not talking about all the instruments he played...
That bass line is KILLER...
And of course John Bonham...
So many incredible bass marvels were buried in the mix of later year Zeppelin LPs. A crying shame.
has anyone ever used this track with their own original guitar melodies/harmonies that match this drum and bass?
That would be fun as hell!!!!
Do _Heart_ _of_ _the_ _Sunrise_ by Yes!
Would love to hear a bass & drum only of “Going to California” or “The Battle of Evermore”. Feedback at 7:29 and a mistake at 8:40. Should have used the volume knob to fade out at 9:48.
Now I want to hear all the songs that way .
Greatest band ever!!
Awesome!!
Just aquired Bec-Var 8 string by Alembic basses on the Presence .
This kicks fuckin ASS!!! Thank you!!!
Finally…… this sounds like the real deal. Instead of supposed isolated tracks that are midi
Well… that’s f in epic
This Ludwig snare is so legendary amazing sound guys! Subscribe for more
i recreate the songs i need ! Bonham, Collins, Copeland, Ulrich, Thompson, Kolinka, Katché etc.
Incredible
I feel like this sounds like Roundabout by Yes. That Alembic has a sort of punchy Rickenbacker feel.
Agreed , I also hear Baracuda .
Damn !! that strumming pattern is so hard too keep up on bass.
Fn awesome man.... I love it...
たったかたったかたったかたったかはjpの音やったんやな。長年の疑問が解けて嬉しい😃
This is yet another example of how Jonesey employed bass picking for percussive effect (Heartbreaker, Song Remains among others) but also because the Alembic was eight strings. And of course, what's an elite mandolin guy like JPJ gonna go with all that?
Besides the fact that the musicians are all top shelf, I think the brilliance of Jimmy Page is that he knew how to construct a song.
His studio engineering is among the finest in modern music and many bands followed suit or tried too anyway.
JPJ and JB together is the apex and complete backbone to LZ. They carried Jimmy during the live shows...
Amazing work. Please make a video on How Many More Times next.
John Paul Jones: if you recognise my avatar, you might know I'm a fan.
thunderthief ❤
This goes to my Zep folder, the only one not the real thing. AWESOME
Awesome
Just Stunning. Great work!
My Goodness.JHON PAUL JONEs!!!!
Studio session - ruclips.net/video/_zLV9SxG_yo/видео.html
🌠WOW ! Really Good !!💟💜
Could you please make this on live remastered Knewborth 1979 version?
Thank you!
Does JPJ miss something at 8:41?Always sounds like that to me
Fantastic!!! If you wouldn't mind revealing..., what software do you use to isolate instruments?
What did you use to separate the tracks?
Two guys who didn't any songwriting credit for that kick ass groove they came up with.
Carouselambra pleeeease
Now that's a jam fest
Could you do the sane on For Your Life?
I think that's their funkiest tune outside of the Crunge, which was a James Brown sort of tribute.
So this ain’t the end
I saw you again
TODAY~~~~~~~
I had to turn my heart away
That's what I was talking about Schindler..
😮😮😮
The Buzzcruz theme song of the 420 boys revel in this
It’s a damn shame that so much of the brilliant bass playing is buried in the mix like most songs on Graffiti.
It sounds like he's using a pick.
Please need the same with All my love 🙏🙏😀
Hi Mirko - Can you tell me which software you used to isolate these tracks? Thanks so much!!
Demucs4, you can find the source code around the web on GitHub
@@mirkovisi6367 I agree this is one of LZ's better performances, but learning that these two tracks are somehow extracted from (I assume) the final stereo mix in software and not copies from the studio multitrack, i.e. the individual drum and bass tracks, well that eclipses the musical performance in my opinion. It's unbelievable that a software package could do that so well. I mean, the tracks are kind of phasey and not studio quality, but still, considering what is actually accomplished by that software is nothing short of amazing. Great job on this and the other tracks you posted!
Is this take genuine?
I feel very surely play this take😀
sorry I can’t speak English because I’m Japanese😥
These guys are what made Led Zeppelin what they were musicly Jimmy was a little too sloppy playing the rythm parts but his Solos were top notch.
I wonder if JPJ was influenced a bit by John Entwistle on this one. Favorite LZ song for sure.
JPJ is a better musician than Entwistle.
@@slave2tyranny But later... hence the influence. Not a comparison. JE could hold his own on bass, but JPJ plays alot of instruments, all 'virtuosotically'.
On this song, JPJ uses an Alembic 8-string bass with a pick. The 8 string king of gives the effect of a guitar and bass playing the same line. He DOES have that aggresive tone that guys like Entwistle and Chris Squire were already employing. Before this record, JPJ's tone was very traditional.
ボンゾとコージーはシンバルの音に特徴がありますね。
5.29
Cette rythmique avec le final du titre
´ Wanna be free ´ de Uriah Heep c’est l’avenir du Metal comme on le verra avec Maiden par exemple .
I think JPJ used his 8 string Alembic on this.
楽し過ぎて笑う
This is a tricky tune to play...
Way too long.
Not long enough!
What, like your comment?
The album was released in 1976 not 1977! 😊
Groovy!
How did you isolate these tracks? Sounds great
There's a pretty expensive audio editor that does this, I think it came out around 2020. Sorry, don't remember its name or if it's Mac, PC or both. But I know even with its groundbreaking technology, it still isn't easy to get this quality isolation on every song. Some songs require a lot of editing & tweaking and I read it's a difficult program to learn. Google should be able to figure out its name.