best part is that it would actually work like that too, as time skip only skips time because time flows in epitaph. So if Jotaro stopped time it would still stop Diavolo but neither would know why
@@SuperDababy2 I don't think that's how it would go down think of 2 timestamps, 00:00 and 00:01. Jotaro's Time Stop would stop time at 00:00, TS shenanigans ensue, time resumes and it would still be 00:00. Diavolo's Time Erasure would erase time at 00:00, make him stand *outside of the flow of time*, view what happens from 00:00 to 00:01, and let him position himself where he wants. Time then resumes at 00:01, not at 00:00 Essentially, what happens is time stops, Diavolo erases time and sees Jotaro do whatever he was going to do within a fraction of a second, gets confused, TE shenanigans ensue and time cuts to 00:01
@@purple-47 you mean the Time Stop? if so, then not really. if you divide a 10cm long paper strip infinite times and compare each segment to the whole combined strip, 1 Time Stop is one of the infinite segments compared to the whole flow of time. time doesn't actually flow during Time Stop.
@@requiem522 yeah but time skip just skips time for everyone sort of having everyone sleepwalk, anything that was going to happen will continue so the time stop would stop everything but the time skip would continue
Stop time>>>erased time Jotaro moving in stopped time its basically moving outside the boundaries of time, its something that technically "doesnt happen" and that has effects only when time does move, time skip only erases the segment of time that do happen, but time stop is something that goes beyond those boundaries, he (jotaro) has moved outside any kind of segment that diavolo could erase, thats how it would actually go if the two stands were to clash and activate the ability in the same time.
Yeah, most people assume time skips wins even though they don’t actually understand how it works. Usually from the assumption that it erases time, but that’s not true. Everything in KC’s 10 seconds still happens, but no one other than Diav remembers. So it merely looks like time was erased from an outside perspective. But that time still happened, if he truly erased time, he would collapse the space time continuum.
@@helios2664 time erase does win, he literally erases himself from that time frame (10 seconds) making him intangible during that so if time erase and time stop occurred at the same time what would happen is that Jotaro would stop time and then immediately would cut to Diavolo making him into a donut since his time erase exceeds time stops length. And even then there is almost no situation where this would occur because Diavolo would use epitaph and see that he is going to get demolished and then time erase out of it before time stop even occurs
@@CREMATORY. >there is almost no situation where this would occur because Diavolo would use epitaph and see that he is going to get demolished and then time erase out of it before time stop even occurs Except the situation when Jotaro doesn't use The World during time skip and activates time stop to counter-attack Diavolo when his KC is on cooldown. Or the situation when Diavolo misenterprets the Epitaph. Or the situation when Jotaro uses Star Finger.
This was actually really well thought out, if King Crimson erases time and Jotaro uses time stop in that time, Jotaro would do what his predetermined course is, without being conscious of it, and even if Diavolo were to be hit in those predetermined actions, time erasure would still make Diavolo intangible, and his ZA WARUDO would be put on cooldown, and if Jotaro tried using it right after he would be confused as to why he can't, However, Noone can escape STAR FINGER!!!!
Jotaro wouldn't do his predetermined course within time stop as time stop is an ability in which fate is paused. Fate, time, and gravity are all the same force; if time is stopped (and gravity, since Dio and Jotaro can indeed just float in timestop) fate is also paused. I'm not saying that Jotaro could hurt Diavolo if Diavolo erased time, he couldn't. Jotaro however absolutely can stop time immediately following a time erase, as unless this is end of Stone Ocean Jotaro, who is nerfed due to post-coma + older age, Jotaro can stop time just as often as Dio can, considering Dio uses it several times in quick succession (Senator Phillips, Polnareff, Store Clerk) and Jotaro moves alongside him in stopped time, which requires your own time stop. All this means is that Jotaro, if both opponents are aware, can stop time immediately after Diavolo erases it, in which Diavolo is screwed.
@@cobylin9192 Despite the name, time isn’t actually being erased in time erase. It’s more akin to a skip. What Diavolo is doing is cutting out a section of time that only he is aware of, changing his final resting place, and collapsing it together. Events still happen in time “erase,” we watch characters move, completely unaware of their actions.
So there is only one thing Jotaro need to do: Hold his time stop intentionally, wait until time skip happens, and make a time stop counter. This guarantees a 100% win. Also even time stop is in cooldown time. I doubt that is a problem. The fight between Jotaro vs the sniper rat already showed the time stop cooldown is really small.
I love the idea of diavolo time skipping and then trying to donut jotaro from behind but star platinum being fast enough to stop time and teleport behind him again
You’re ignoring the fact that Time Skip leaves people confused and disoriented. Whitesnake was able to attack first, and Jotaro SAW it coming within stopped time.
@@Xenomnipotent Man give Jotaro a break, the dude woke up from being melted, used an ability he hadn't for like a decade, and was a little bit too slow to win against an opponent who had planned for this situation for years upon years. Diavolo ain't gonna do that, he's smart sure but he doesn't have the patience nor the knowledge to pull that kind of trick off.
@@thunderspark1536 Jotaro had always used Star Platinum. P6 Star Platinum is the strongest version of itself yet. He was just focused with Johngalli A, he used Star Platinum to deflect the bullets. Star Platinum is fast, but it's currently occupied by deflecting the bullet, and that's how Whitesnake was able to easily take his discs. If he went for Whitesnake first, we would've got a whole nother' story.
No issues with the video until the controversial time erasure vs time stopping component; I actually rather enjoyed the video other than that. The issue I have with this part of the video is that this would not be how these two powers would work when combined in a fight against each other. If Jotaro were to stop time before Diavolo pulled off his time erase, Jotaro would most likely win out of sheer strength and kill him in stopped time. However, if Diavolo did start his time erasing ability before Jotaro stopped time, and then Jotaro proceeded to stop time within it, Jotaro would still most likely still win. The reason for this is because erased time actually does happen, while time stop technically does not. If Jotaro stopped time during erased time he would be able to regain consciousness of his actions as he would have escaped the flow of time entirely, spot Diavolo, and then move in to finish the job. To sum it up into simple terms, stopped time never happened at all while erased time did.
I thought if Diavolo erased time, Jotaro could stop time, but Diavolo could still see his actions, like jotaro trying to save up his time stop because he caught on to Diavolo’s time erasure. Then time erasure would return to normal, and for Jotaro, time would still be stopped, but he would have 2-3 seconds left. In shorter terms, in Jotaro’s perspective, It would be like time suddenly stopped because time skipped
@@kaydencochoosts6112 that’s exactly what I think would happen it doesn’t make sense for Jotaro to be able to stop time erase since time has been erased
Man imagine if Koichi Was there and helped Giorno by increasing the weight of diavolo And Jotaro Acually had the White outfit His time limit would still be 2 seconds or he had it increased to 3 And stone ocean takes place over a decade after Golden wind and Diamond is unbreakable takes place at least 2-3 years Before golden wind
Good what if but only problem with the end is that King Crimson can erase time up to 10 seconds. Jotaro can stop time up to 5 seconds. King Crimson's erased time would technically skip jotaro's stop time by the end of it meaning Diavolo wouldn't lose in the time clash.
Dude its VERY simple. Diavolo cant erase time that is STOPPED. There IS NO TIME. Jotaro STOPPED TIME. Diavolo can only see in the future (which is things that happen later than the present) he cant see actions that took place outside of the flow of time entirely
@@theblueprint2001 aye bruh good theory but I still think he could erased the stopped time because time still exists even when it’s not moving. However in diavolos time erase he could ERASE the time meaning there is NO time. You got it the other way around. Still good theory
@@hollownxss5161 not really, as u can see time is still moving when diavolo is in his own world, this is seen in multiple scenes one of them being during the bruno vs diavolo, when diavolo uses his ability bruno is still moving
In my opinion, how it may go down is that Diavolo uses [Epitaph], sees 10 seconds into the future showing himself getting blown away seemingly for no reason. Diavolo then uses King Crimson's [Time Skip] but cannot interact or most likely is not able to see anything, specifically, what time/event he is exactly skipping. This will probably be due to Jotaro's actions occuring "outside of time" after he uses Star Platinum: The World's [Time Stop].
If he saw the punch coming, he'd have skipped time. Then even if Jotaro would punch him, he'd get away with it. However, if he could see the punch coming, then it wasn't a time stop punch, otherwise Diavolo would've seen himself suddenly explode in gore instead. And since fate is fate, he couldn't have changed that outcome.
Imo time erase pretty much negates time stop. Diavolo is entirely immune to fate when erasing time so time stop wouldn't affect him. If time stop is considered a lengthening of time, then it takes up time erase time but if its considered to be time that takes place between two other points in time, Diavolo essentially gets a free 5 seconds more of time erase.
@@username-ik1jf The time does exist though, it's just an extension of time which only people who can manipulate time, gravity or fate can access. If it wasn't like those them jotaro would be able to stop time indefinitely. Diavolo is completely immune to all attacks while in erased time so time stop would have no effect on him.
that's why the best move for Jotaro if he was fighting Diavolo would be to hold on to his time stop until Diavolo skips time. If he knows about time skip then he should just keep pressuring Diavolo until he has to skip time (King Crimson without time skip is easily outclassed by Chariot and Star Platinum is about equal to Chariot) and then stop time right as the skipped time ends.
@@timetraveler_from_2012 THIS! Finally someone claims "time stop doesn't have to happen in the time skip's window". This strategy is a 100% win for Jotaro/Dio.
@@timetraveler_from_2012 Ik I'm 1 year late but I saw this blasphemous take and I had to react. King Crimson is definitely relative if not faster than Silver Chariot and definitely stronger lmao.
Diavolo objectively wins, He foresees the future, Sees himself mysteriously killed similar to kakyoin, Blows away that time and counters Jotatro but loses the exchange due to Star Platinums Feats. Diavolo uses his ability and kills Jotaro
Jotaro and by extension star plat would be able to instantaneously react to any attack after a time erase, star plat has MFL attack speed and reaction and completely out stats KC. KC cant attack In time erase and has to time it right as it ends and no matter how close KC is to hitting jotaro star plat would easily blow away KC
Stop timed means there aren’t any time flowing, you can’t erase times that are… just not there. Meaning that regardless of how much Diavolo uses his power, Time stop would still be an instant lost.
I like how the script doesn’t give him the requiem arrow for no reason. Jotaro has other ways to beat diavolo, and jojo isn’t exactly about who is more broken. But who is smarter.
Diavolo loses in every scenario. First of all Star Platinum is way stronger physically than King Crimson in pretty much every aspect, so all Epitath would show is Diavolo getting pummeled by Star Platinum. There are 4 possible scenarios.1- If neither Jotaro or Diavolo use their abilities then SP wins. 2- If Jotaro uses time stop first he obviously wins 3- If Diavolo time skips first, even if he blinds jotaro with blood and attacks after the skip he will still lose because Star Platinum can instantly stop time the moment King Crimson gets near, we've seen Chariot hit King Crimson after a timeskip and Star Platinum could keep up with slightly unarmored Anubis Chariot so he could definitely hit King Crimson after a skip or stop time, even if Jotaro is blinded by blood, we've seen SP being able to precisely hit even while blinded. 4- If Jotaro and Diavolo use their abilities at the same time. Two things could happen, 1- Time skip skips the time stop and we are back at situation 3 or 2- Time stop stops the time skip and we are back at situation 2. Whatever Diavolo does it seems like he can't really land any hits on Jotaro or SP.
On a side note, imagine if sp’s ability was to invade other worlds. Silver chariot? He can keep up. Hierophant green? How about he throw some emeralds back at you? The world? He stops time during stopped time. King crimson? How about I erase YOUR erased time?
If time stopped while in time erasure, it would probably just make time erasure completely useless since erased time relies on the flow of time, and if that stops, then king crimson is just erasing the same second over and over again until either time erasure stops or the world stops. Also, if diavolo dies it's canon.
Even if Diavolo Skips Time Star Platinum is still fast enough to react to any sneak attacks. Also getting Diavolo into Time Stop is a guaranteed win for Jotaro, Diavolos Time Skip is not a definite win.
@@Pqihtyieojn12 But time stop doesn't have to happen in the time skip's duration. Jotaro can hold the time stop UNTIL time skip happens, and make a time stop counter attack. Still a definite win for Jotaro.
Diavolo: With skipped time I can look under stand's your loincloth. Just as incredible as I expected, have I found my equal?! Regardless, time has been erased. Jotaro: I feel violated somehow.
Y'all need to understand that there was a reason pollnaref went through all that shit instead of giving jotaro a call , first of all his time erase is 10 seconds long which means even if jotaro can stop time during it diavolo would still has the upper hand , also it's time erasure not time skip meaning there is no time for him to stop it , diavolos epitaph easily concludes this match , he it the perfect counter for jotaro , but anyways cool video loved the fight
king crimson > star platinum in the sundden fight if they don't know eachother (ability) KC just skip time when get hurts (in the stop time) and win but star platinum stands 1 big chance if they know eachothers stand power and ability, if SP just stop time right after the KC skip time, you win, if it doen't you lose
I want someone to do Jotaro vs Smaug but only use the book version of the hobbit when editing it, so it’s Jotaro punching the word Smaug with bad editing
This is exactly why Jotaro wasn’t really involved in Part 5. His stand is so busted he would’ve beaten 3 main villains in a row if he did fight Diavolo.
Yeah basically. Since Time still exists in Epitaph, in theory time should be able to be brought to a halt. Giving Jotaro to do his predetermined course and kill King Crimson. Even if you givr the edge to Diavolo in hax. Jotaro is so grossly overpowered in all other factors that it doesn’t even matter💀
Epitaph should have let boss dodge the last rush attack tho,plus tho Jotaro PAUSED boss' time skip,after time resumes,if he doesn't kill him in time stops,to Jotaro,it'll just seem like after the time stop,Diavolo suddenly appeared in his back,so it doen't make sense lol Nice edit ,but bad fight
As long as time stop doesn't happen in time skip's window. Jotaro is still 100% win. Who says time stop must happen in time skip's 10 seconds? Jotaro can just hold it like how Polnareff makes a counter attack. Also people seem to forget time stop cooldown is much shorter than time skip.
@@kaydencochoosts6112 I mean, Diavolo has a plan in his mind at the end, Diavolo cant move but Jotaro also cant see Diavolo in his time stop and Diavolo was still predicting Jotaro moves in the next 10 seconds and time just resume then he get beaten isntantly lol
@@windstreak9322 you seem like a failed jojofan Let me tell you what was happening Both King Crimson and Star Platium affected each other in the video Time is stopping so there is nothing to skip Time is skipping so there is nothing to stop Both stucked but Diavolo is invisible even Star Platium can stop time cuz King Crimson ability erase Diavolo existence for 10 seconds, because Diavolo doesnt exist during this 10 seconds so even time is stopped when time resume King Crimson ability is stil active and time is still erasing as it should be So the bullshit thing Jotaro some how hit Diavolo while Diavolo already looked into Epitaph is totally bullshit Fate cant be changed unless its GER, not even Pucci and Made in Heaven could change his fate, jojofans have brain damage as always
Ok, the problem here is at 3:42 when both King Crimson and Star Platinum erased and stopped time, King Crimson shouldn't be experiencing inside of Jotaro's period of stopped time which doesn't make any sense. Instead, it would just look like Jotaro would be teleporting in Diavolo's perspective. While Diavolo is in the time skip, Jotaro would still be attacking Diavolo but is unaware that Diavolo is no longer there but is still forced to attack because of the unstoppable force of fate. If Jotaro stops time, it would just look like Jotaro is teleporting in Diavolo's perspective.
I don't think Jotaro stands a chance of winning this match. Diavolo will likely pierce his heart right after the time skips, leaving Jotaro with no time to react or analyze King Crimson's ability.
@@i_Hzayerx your jokes are also nice it is about 50/50 who will win and u must never forget jotaro doesn't possess Requiem if he gets Then jotaro can Break the power structure of jjba too
My boy Jotaro is out here stoping time and just talking to himself without attacking for no reason.
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@@ケイチの部屋 じょ、空条承太郎。。。
Because it's the only time he gets a break
he can skip the time stop tho
@@_N3xus no
this ending seemed way more intense than the canon one.
Tf do you mean
Diavolo died, this is canon
@@ethanfirith6116 the original canon one, not that kind.
@ratpee not the one made by Araki, nonetheless
Lol no
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The C-Moon music playing while Diavolo erases time really goes hard imo
I get what you mean lmao
@@KurosakiNexusbro this part 6 jotaro but he have 5 second time stop
@@BurakKumral ok but what about it
@@KurosakiNexus in part 6 we see jotaro's time stop weak i mean part 6 jotaro cannot stop time for 5 second
@@BurakKumral I think it was stated that he trained his time stop and it was 5 seconds again in part 6
In part 4 it was 2 seconds though.
Omg I love the idea that in the skipped time if a stop time occurs, Diavolo can't move.
best part is that it would actually work like that too, as time skip only skips time because time flows in epitaph. So if Jotaro stopped time it would still stop Diavolo but neither would know why
@@SuperDababy2 I don't think that's how it would go down
think of 2 timestamps, 00:00 and 00:01. Jotaro's Time Stop would stop time at 00:00, TS shenanigans ensue, time resumes and it would still be 00:00.
Diavolo's Time Erasure would erase time at 00:00, make him stand *outside of the flow of time*, view what happens from 00:00 to 00:01, and let him position himself where he wants. Time then resumes at 00:01, not at 00:00
Essentially, what happens is time stops, Diavolo erases time and sees Jotaro do whatever he was going to do within a fraction of a second, gets confused, TE shenanigans ensue and time cuts to 00:01
@@requiem522 wouldn't it be in between 00:00 and 00:01since it's only for a fraction of a second but the skip should just play during time stop.
@@purple-47 you mean the Time Stop? if so, then not really. if you divide a 10cm long paper strip infinite times and compare each segment to the whole combined strip, 1 Time Stop is one of the infinite segments compared to the whole flow of time. time doesn't actually flow during Time Stop.
@@requiem522 yeah but time skip just skips time for everyone sort of having everyone sleepwalk, anything that was going to happen will continue so the time stop would stop everything but the time skip would continue
Stop time>>>erased time
Jotaro moving in stopped time its basically moving outside the boundaries of time, its something that technically "doesnt happen" and that has effects only when time does move, time skip only erases the segment of time that do happen, but time stop is something that goes beyond those boundaries, he (jotaro) has moved outside any kind of segment that diavolo could erase, thats how it would actually go if the two stands were to clash and activate the ability in the same time.
Yeah, most people assume time skips wins even though they don’t actually understand how it works. Usually from the assumption that it erases time, but that’s not true. Everything in KC’s 10 seconds still happens, but no one other than Diav remembers. So it merely looks like time was erased from an outside perspective. But that time still happened, if he truly erased time, he would collapse the space time continuum.
@@helios2664 time erase does win, he literally erases himself from that time frame (10 seconds) making him intangible during that so if time erase and time stop occurred at the same time what would happen is that Jotaro would stop time and then immediately would cut to Diavolo making him into a donut since his time erase exceeds time stops length. And even then there is almost no situation where this would occur because Diavolo would use epitaph and see that he is going to get demolished and then time erase out of it before time stop even occurs
@@CREMATORY. >there is almost no situation where this would occur because Diavolo would use epitaph and see that he is going to get demolished and then time erase out of it before time stop even occurs
Except the situation when Jotaro doesn't use The World during time skip and activates time stop to counter-attack Diavolo when his KC is on cooldown. Or the situation when Diavolo misenterprets the Epitaph. Or the situation when Jotaro uses Star Finger.
But wouldn't diavolo Stills be untouchable during the time stop?
@@leonardobittencourt918Watch Giorno explain KC
If he outside flow of time, he also cant affect them. That why he wait till time skipped to attack
That time stop x time erase was such a good idea
This was actually really well thought out, if King Crimson erases time and Jotaro uses time stop in that time, Jotaro would do what his predetermined course is, without being conscious of it, and even if Diavolo were to be hit in those predetermined actions, time erasure would still make Diavolo intangible, and his ZA WARUDO would be put on cooldown, and if Jotaro tried using it right after he would be confused as to why he can't, However, Noone can escape STAR FINGER!!!!
Jotaro wouldn't do his predetermined course within time stop as time stop is an ability in which fate is paused. Fate, time, and gravity are all the same force; if time is stopped (and gravity, since Dio and Jotaro can indeed just float in timestop) fate is also paused. I'm not saying that Jotaro could hurt Diavolo if Diavolo erased time, he couldn't.
Jotaro however absolutely can stop time immediately following a time erase, as unless this is end of Stone Ocean Jotaro, who is nerfed due to post-coma + older age, Jotaro can stop time just as often as Dio can, considering Dio uses it several times in quick succession (Senator Phillips, Polnareff, Store Clerk) and Jotaro moves alongside him in stopped time, which requires your own time stop. All this means is that Jotaro, if both opponents are aware, can stop time immediately after Diavolo erases it, in which Diavolo is screwed.
@@blackfyre7900that’s also interesting but if there is no time to stop,how would jotaro pause time?
@@cobylin9192 Despite the name, time isn’t actually being erased in time erase. It’s more akin to a skip. What Diavolo is doing is cutting out a section of time that only he is aware of, changing his final resting place, and collapsing it together. Events still happen in time “erase,” we watch characters move, completely unaware of their actions.
@@blackfyre7900 that explains a lot I always just assumed diavolo basically had a time pause
So there is only one thing Jotaro need to do: Hold his time stop intentionally, wait until time skip happens, and make a time stop counter.
This guarantees a 100% win. Also even time stop is in cooldown time. I doubt that is a problem. The fight between Jotaro vs the sniper rat already showed the time stop cooldown is really small.
ngl there should be a What-If series like Marvel but Jojo themed
I love the idea of diavolo time skipping and then trying to donut jotaro from behind but star platinum being fast enough to stop time and teleport behind him again
You’re ignoring the fact that Time Skip leaves people confused and disoriented.
Whitesnake was able to attack first, and Jotaro SAW it coming within stopped time.
@@Xenomnipotent yeah but it would be funny
@@Xenomnipotentpolnareff in question:
@@Xenomnipotent Man give Jotaro a break, the dude woke up from being melted, used an ability he hadn't for like a decade, and was a little bit too slow to win against an opponent who had planned for this situation for years upon years.
Diavolo ain't gonna do that, he's smart sure but he doesn't have the patience nor the knowledge to pull that kind of trick off.
@@thunderspark1536 Jotaro had always used Star Platinum. P6 Star Platinum is the strongest version of itself yet. He was just focused with Johngalli A, he used Star Platinum to deflect the bullets. Star Platinum is fast, but it's currently occupied by deflecting the bullet, and that's how Whitesnake was able to easily take his discs. If he went for Whitesnake first, we would've got a whole nother' story.
No issues with the video until the controversial time erasure vs time stopping component; I actually rather enjoyed the video other than that. The issue I have with this part of the video is that this would not be how these two powers would work when combined in a fight against each other. If Jotaro were to stop time before Diavolo pulled off his time erase, Jotaro would most likely win out of sheer strength and kill him in stopped time. However, if Diavolo did start his time erasing ability before Jotaro stopped time, and then Jotaro proceeded to stop time within it, Jotaro would still most likely still win. The reason for this is because erased time actually does happen, while time stop technically does not. If Jotaro stopped time during erased time he would be able to regain consciousness of his actions as he would have escaped the flow of time entirely, spot Diavolo, and then move in to finish the job. To sum it up into simple terms, stopped time never happened at all while erased time did.
I thought if Diavolo erased time, Jotaro could stop time, but Diavolo could still see his actions, like jotaro trying to save up his time stop because he caught on to Diavolo’s time erasure. Then time erasure would return to normal, and for Jotaro, time would still be stopped, but he would have 2-3 seconds left. In shorter terms, in Jotaro’s perspective, It would be like time suddenly stopped because time skipped
I think no, diavolo can’t see what is in 0 seconds. In diavolo POV jotaro is only spam teleporting and punching
@@probsomguy Right, but Dio could talk in stopped time even. I totally agree with you though, but i just added that scene for dramatic effect
@@kaydencochoosts6112 cool
@@kaydencochoosts6112 that’s exactly what I think would happen it doesn’t make sense for Jotaro to be able to stop time erase since time has been erased
Man imagine if Koichi Was there and helped Giorno by increasing the weight of diavolo
And Jotaro Acually had the White outfit
His time limit would still be 2 seconds or he had it increased to 3
And stone ocean takes place over a decade after Golden wind and Diamond is unbreakable takes place at least 2-3 years Before golden wind
Diu is like 1-2 years max before golden wind start
3:39 literally when a star platinum and a king crimson battle in any roblox jojo game:
So basically if Koichi told Jotaro what Giorno told him about Passione and then Jotaro realized thats why polnareff suddenly disappeared.
Jotaros throat having lips in the thumbnail, not surprising in jojos
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Great improvement! Nice canon episode :)
Thanks man
@@kaydencochoosts6112 King crimson or star platinium which op?
Good what if but only problem with the end is that King Crimson can erase time up to 10 seconds. Jotaro can stop time up to 5 seconds. King Crimson's erased time would technically skip jotaro's stop time by the end of it meaning Diavolo wouldn't lose in the time clash.
Dude its VERY simple. Diavolo cant erase time that is STOPPED. There IS NO TIME. Jotaro STOPPED TIME. Diavolo can only see in the future (which is things that happen later than the present) he cant see actions that took place outside of the flow of time entirely
@@theblueprint2001 aye bruh good theory but I still think he could erased the stopped time because time still exists even when it’s not moving. However in diavolos time erase he could ERASE the time meaning there is NO time. You got it the other way around. Still good theory
@@projectspooky8646 he doesnt erase time he simply skips it and everyone but diavolo has no memory of that skipped time
@@windstreak9322 No, he erases time.
@@hollownxss5161 not really, as u can see time is still moving when diavolo is in his own world, this is seen in multiple scenes one of them being during the bruno vs diavolo, when diavolo uses his ability bruno is still moving
GER in the video: "This should be entertaining to watch."
then diavolo realizes this was another one the loops he was put in after giorno rocked his shit
this was incredilbe. its like an actual fight from the anime
Yeah he made it Jojo like
In my opinion, how it may go down is that Diavolo uses [Epitaph], sees 10 seconds into the future showing himself getting blown away seemingly for no reason. Diavolo then uses King Crimson's [Time Skip] but cannot interact or most likely is not able to see anything, specifically, what time/event he is exactly skipping. This will probably be due to Jotaro's actions occuring "outside of time" after he uses Star Platinum: The World's [Time Stop].
jotaro is nerfed even in fan animations
If he saw the punch coming, he'd have skipped time. Then even if Jotaro would punch him, he'd get away with it. However, if he could see the punch coming, then it wasn't a time stop punch, otherwise Diavolo would've seen himself suddenly explode in gore instead. And since fate is fate, he couldn't have changed that outcome.
I laughed when I saw that Giorno just stood there next to GER
Loving this
Imo time erase pretty much negates time stop. Diavolo is entirely immune to fate when erasing time so time stop wouldn't affect him. If time stop is considered a lengthening of time, then it takes up time erase time but if its considered to be time that takes place between two other points in time, Diavolo essentially gets a free 5 seconds more of time erase.
Diavolo can't erase a time that doesn't exist yet , remember jotaro LITERALLY stops the movement of time
@@username-ik1jf The time does exist though, it's just an extension of time which only people who can manipulate time, gravity or fate can access. If it wasn't like those them jotaro would be able to stop time indefinitely. Diavolo is completely immune to all attacks while in erased time so time stop would have no effect on him.
that's why the best move for Jotaro if he was fighting Diavolo would be to hold on to his time stop until Diavolo skips time. If he knows about time skip then he should just keep pressuring Diavolo until he has to skip time (King Crimson without time skip is easily outclassed by Chariot and Star Platinum is about equal to Chariot) and then stop time right as the skipped time ends.
@@timetraveler_from_2012 THIS! Finally someone claims "time stop doesn't have to happen in the time skip's window". This strategy is a 100% win for Jotaro/Dio.
@@timetraveler_from_2012 Ik I'm 1 year late but I saw this blasphemous take and I had to react. King Crimson is definitely relative if not faster than Silver Chariot and definitely stronger lmao.
Diavolo objectively wins, He foresees the future, Sees himself mysteriously killed similar to kakyoin, Blows away that time and counters Jotatro but loses the exchange due to Star Platinums Feats. Diavolo uses his ability and kills Jotaro
Jotaro and by extension star plat would be able to instantaneously react to any attack after a time erase, star plat has MFL attack speed and reaction and completely out stats KC. KC cant attack In time erase and has to time it right as it ends and no matter how close KC is to hitting jotaro star plat would easily blow away KC
nuh uh
why is this so good
Stop timed means there aren’t any time flowing, you can’t erase times that are… just not there. Meaning that regardless of how much Diavolo uses his power, Time stop would still be an instant lost.
the background of the punch made it so he didn't know where it came from
I like how the script doesn’t give him the requiem arrow for no reason. Jotaro has other ways to beat diavolo, and jojo isn’t exactly about who is more broken. But who is smarter.
Now, THIS is epic 🗿🔥🔥🔥
Diavolo loses in every scenario. First of all Star Platinum is way stronger physically than King Crimson in pretty much every aspect, so all Epitath would show is Diavolo getting pummeled by Star Platinum. There are 4 possible scenarios.1- If neither Jotaro or Diavolo use their abilities then SP wins.
2- If Jotaro uses time stop first he obviously wins
3- If Diavolo time skips first, even if he blinds jotaro with blood and attacks after the skip he will still lose because Star Platinum can instantly stop time the moment King Crimson gets near, we've seen Chariot hit King Crimson after a timeskip and Star Platinum could keep up with slightly unarmored Anubis Chariot so he could definitely hit King Crimson after a skip or stop time, even if Jotaro is blinded by blood, we've seen SP being able to precisely hit even while blinded.
4- If Jotaro and Diavolo use their abilities at the same time. Two things could happen, 1- Time skip skips the time stop and we are back at situation 3 or 2- Time stop stops the time skip and we are back at situation 2. Whatever Diavolo does it seems like he can't really land any hits on Jotaro or SP.
I disagree on the third one, polnareff predicted Diavolo because he had experienced fighting with diavolo.
Not to mention that diavolo can stun jotaro by showing his epitaph.
But don’t worry, diavolo don’t have plot armor so he lose
Bro star platinum can’t win if diavolo erases time first.
@@sammuelmccall56789 As I've said above he can. If you do proper scaling you can tell Star Platinum is way faster than King Crimson.
One thing you didn't take into account is that Jotaro hasn't trained time stopping for a long time and in theory, he should still be in his own time.
On a side note, imagine if sp’s ability was to invade other worlds. Silver chariot? He can keep up. Hierophant green? How about he throw some emeralds back at you? The world? He stops time during stopped time. King crimson? How about I erase YOUR erased time?
Why does it feel like
It was stacked?
If time stopped while in time erasure, it would probably just make time erasure completely useless since erased time relies on the flow of time, and if that stops, then king crimson is just erasing the same second over and over again until either time erasure stops or the world stops. Also, if diavolo dies it's canon.
Even if Diavolo Skips Time Star Platinum is still fast enough to react to any sneak attacks.
Also getting Diavolo into Time Stop is a guaranteed win for Jotaro, Diavolos Time Skip is not a definite win.
But time skip cancels out time stop in my opinion because during time skip diavolo becomes intangible to fate but same can't be said for jotaro.
@@Pqihtyieojn12 But time stop doesn't have to happen in the time skip's duration. Jotaro can hold the time stop UNTIL time skip happens, and make a time stop counter attack.
Still a definite win for Jotaro.
Jotaro was not able to dodge Ratt's bullets or hit Whitesnake when he saw him in time stop
@@ENAMINOMANAJolyne?
this is jotaro clone real jotaro would have say so it's the same type of stand as star platinum and ended the fight in seconds
I mean if diavolo dies its canon
King crimson should’ve predicted the last attack by star platinum, it is not like he has a stand that controls fate or nullify attacks to zero
...question how was jotaro movin like that when he had gotten donuted........
part 4 jotaro casually tanking sheer heart attack
@@goodboi1725 which isn't much if you compare it to polnareff being casually donuted by king crimson
Diavolo: With skipped time I can look under stand's your loincloth. Just as incredible as I expected, have I found my equal?! Regardless, time has been erased.
Jotaro: I feel violated somehow.
Skipping time ain’t overpowering time stop
2:20 jotaro still thinking
Time stop: aren’t I supposed to end by now?! He literally also skipped few seconds of my power 😢
How do you skip paused time?
Diavolo got that christmas elf in him in that thumnbail
Y'all need to understand that there was a reason pollnaref went through all that shit instead of giving jotaro a call , first of all his time erase is 10 seconds long which means even if jotaro can stop time during it diavolo would still has the upper hand , also it's time erasure not time skip meaning there is no time for him to stop it , diavolos epitaph easily concludes this match , he it the perfect counter for jotaro , but anyways cool video loved the fight
Polnareff didn't even know that star Platinum could stop time
@@Anonymoususer-eu4nh what ? 😂 Of course he knew it after part 3
@@erfanhamedi9761
Joatro still wins
Nice edting bro :)
What themes did you use in this video?
king crimson > star platinum
in the sundden fight if they don't know eachother (ability) KC just skip time when get hurts (in the stop time) and win
but star platinum stands 1 big chance if they know eachothers stand power and ability, if SP just stop time right after the KC skip time, you win, if it doen't you lose
If legless Silver Chariot could keep up with KC, Jotaro would certainly prevail. Jotaro isn't the type to use his trump card from the get go
I want someone to do Jotaro vs Smaug but only use the book version of the hobbit when editing it, so it’s Jotaro punching the word Smaug with bad editing
"i will not let him have the arrow" *a couple prior scenes earlier Giorno has Ger
This is exactly why Jotaro wasn’t really involved in Part 5. His stand is so busted he would’ve beaten 3 main villains in a row if he did fight Diavolo.
Part 6 is also like that
Jotaro was nerfed because of that too
You are best
Yeah basically. Since Time still exists in Epitaph, in theory time should be able to be brought to a halt. Giving Jotaro to do his predetermined course and kill King Crimson. Even if you givr the edge to Diavolo in hax. Jotaro is so grossly overpowered in all other factors that it doesn’t even matter💀
Diavolo can't see the future, if flow of time is stopped.
Did bro just forget ger? 3:02
Слишком топово
Epitaph should have let boss dodge the last rush attack tho,plus tho Jotaro PAUSED boss' time skip,after time resumes,if he doesn't kill him in time stops,to Jotaro,it'll just seem like after the time stop,Diavolo suddenly appeared in his back,so it doen't make sense lol
Nice edit ,but bad fight
Some people really dont know how KC works fr.
King Crimson TIME ERASE
One second later
Star platinum the world
Hi I really love the music when jotaro is looking for diavolo in time stop where did u get it from and can u make diavolo vs dio ( make diavolo win)
@@rajeshwaribanda7921 pretty sure its the made in heaven ost and also dio would win since hes a vampire
True
Also it’s not made in heaven ost
@@rajeshwaribanda7921 a, maybe c moon then idk
why cant ger move during ts,time stands cant affect ger
As painful as it may be for me, i don´t think Jotaro can beat Diavolo
hang on.. why is it Jotaro 40 year old fighting?
he should be like 28 during this period of time.
IShowPucci💀💀💀
That can be misinterpreted
On the thumbnail jotaros mouth was on his neck
Misic pls 2:00
I always knew that result, time stopping overcome time erase
BLSHT KING CRIMSON CN ERASE TIME STOP
That’s not how it works
Ts>>>
i was confused this whole time
if he could skip the time stop then it would be op
Logically speaking he can. He can literally skip his own fate itself so time stop wouldn't be an issue
As long as time stop doesn't happen in time skip's window. Jotaro is still 100% win.
Who says time stop must happen in time skip's 10 seconds? Jotaro can just hold it like how Polnareff makes a counter attack.
Also people seem to forget time stop cooldown is much shorter than time skip.
@Pqihtyieojn12skipping his fate only happens when time is flowing, when time is stop, everything is at halt
Diavalo ain't no god
So it’s the same kind of stand as star platinum
If diavolo dies it’s canon
Whats with the thumbnail
P6 jotaro is enough for diavolo
Bruh, what the heck is that end, doesnt make sense at all, the whole fight is good and the end destroyed this video
How?
@@kaydencochoosts6112 I mean, Diavolo has a plan in his mind at the end, Diavolo cant move but Jotaro also cant see Diavolo in his time stop and Diavolo was still predicting Jotaro moves in the next 10 seconds and time just resume then he get beaten isntantly lol
@@ngovandang1997 yeah I just watched this now and I have to admit it was kinda jarring lol
@@ngovandang1997 cuz Jotaro also planned for him to skip time
@@windstreak9322 you seem like a failed jojofan
Let me tell you what was happening
Both King Crimson and Star Platium affected each other in the video
Time is stopping so there is nothing to skip
Time is skipping so there is nothing to stop
Both stucked but Diavolo is invisible even Star Platium can stop time cuz King Crimson ability erase Diavolo existence for 10 seconds, because Diavolo doesnt exist during this 10 seconds so even time is stopped when time resume King Crimson ability is stil active and time is still erasing as it should be
So the bullshit thing Jotaro some how hit Diavolo while Diavolo already looked into Epitaph is totally bullshit
Fate cant be changed unless its GER, not even Pucci and Made in Heaven could change his fate, jojofans have brain damage as always
why jotaro is with part 6 clothes? he have a part 5 clothes
Ok, the problem here is at 3:42 when both King Crimson and Star Platinum erased and stopped time, King Crimson shouldn't be experiencing inside of Jotaro's period of stopped time which doesn't make any sense. Instead, it would just look like Jotaro would be teleporting in Diavolo's perspective. While Diavolo is in the time skip, Jotaro would still be attacking Diavolo but is unaware that Diavolo is no longer there but is still forced to attack because of the unstoppable force of fate. If Jotaro stops time, it would just look like Jotaro is teleporting in Diavolo's perspective.
Cool but i think he added the talking for more suspense
And king crimson strenght is better
what is going on in the thumbnail
I like this
As always if diavolo dies it is canon
Jotaro:hahahahaha ez ez noob no morher ez noob
3:17 diavolo going hand to hand with does not make any sense, diavolo doesnt fight like that
Yes he does at some points
Then what is he doing right now
@@kaydencochoosts6112 where
@@kaydencochoosts6112 going to jotaro's back and attacking from behind so jotaro cannot see him
@@kaydencochoosts6112 and time erase stopping does not make sense, diavolo does not even see inside of time stop
to be honest diavolo wins just bc of hax
their fight will be pause ,resume,pause,resume,pause,resume
Он был в другом костюме,не канон
The start of the fight was dumb asf lmao
I don't think Jotaro stands a chance of winning this match. Diavolo will likely pierce his heart right after the time skips, leaving Jotaro with no time to react or analyze King Crimson's ability.
Star platinum moves at lightspeed or faster than light. It would be easy for sptw to counter.
@@editsfnm8133 haha nice joke. It is the first time I see something cap like this. It is not true
@@i_Hzayerx your jokes are also nice it is about 50/50 who will win and u must never forget jotaro doesn't possess
Requiem if he gets
Then jotaro can Break the power structure of jjba too
@@adityannairfybscitb2656 Cap
@@i_Hzayerx up just like your existence
WTF is Giorno even doing
He doesn’t know his true requiem potential yet because he never got the chance to fight the boss
time erase is stopping does not make any fucking sense
Jotoro is a complete weakling here, but he could easily kill you
テーブルの下とかヤシの木とか(笑)
Diavolo erased time
In erased time
Bro how can Diavolo think in ts and how tf did he ts went time is being skipped.
Not realistic but nice editing
Perfectly realistic if Jotaro has his plot armour
@@MCLegend13 i dont talk about this because you are dont know king crimson ability
@@WarTVytking of crimson ability is been known already
Mf cannot touch anything during time erase and time cannot be erased without time flowing
Эпичнее чем весь 5 сезон
0:47
Bro there is so much wrong with this. Somebody, please respond to this comment. I beg.
if diavolo won against deo he should easily beat jotaro
L diavolo should erase his stop time
4:30 how Jotaro beat diavolo 😂