Great video. Appropriately titled and it's nice to be able to hear the judges commands to give people a very real idea of what to expect in trial. Good job and congrats. :)
This has been a huge help. After, at least, 4 decades of not gone to an obedience trial, this is a nice review. I'm excited to be getting back into the fun, and will be scouring youtube for more videos like this one.
I notice each dog competing is a different breed. People fall into 2 categories 1) they already own a dog and train hard. Or 2) they purchase a puppy (of whatever breed) that has a working drive specifically to compete, and train hard. I saw someone doing Rally with a Pyreneese last trial. What is the difference between her novelty dog and the Golden? It will never be high in trial because its genetics make it slower and it will never move like a golden. Every competition team trains hard to get where they are. There are just as many slow dopy goldens as those rhat are fast with high drive.
+Sammi Flynn people who have goldens have to train too!!! What an incredibly insensitive comment. I train with my golden everyday, and have earned our performances.
I think what she meant was that the dog wasn't one you commonly see in competitions like that. It would be the same if you saw a bull mastiff instead off a border collie at an agility competition. ;)
How else do you interpret "You really had to train a dog!!!" other than people with the "common breeds apparently must not...trust me if you met my golden, she is one of the more challenging dogs to train for obedience, regardless of breed. Its a common and stupid concept that somehow people with uncommon breeds work harder than people with more common breeds....its not true, and its a mean thing people say.....until you know exactly how hard other people work, those comments should probably be left un-said.
It all depends on the dog, regardless of breed. Its just a fact that the breeding of dogs started in order to produce certain qualities and characteristics. So, certain breeds have a predisposition to excel in avenues other breeds normally wouldn't. I admit I get excited to see something other than a border collie in agility competitions for medium and large breeds. It's refreshing. I've started my own dog in agility and I have no idea what she is. The fact that she's having a blast with it is all that matters. :)
Sammi, i have had a mixed breed lab x newfyx st bernard, a few labs, a golden and all were very trainable. I now have a Border Collie and from my experience this is a very smart dog but almost too smart and ultra sensitive so proving to be more difficult to train. Every waking hour is training with these dogs with down time being literally when they sleep. The dog in the video looks at least part herding dog, heeler,BC or something of the type. we must not stereotype.
Yes we can stereotype. I realize there are outliers in every breed but breeds were developed for specific jobs and/or biddability and to reproduce those traits, well bred dogs do that. In people it may not be PC to stereotype but in veterinary medicine and animal husbandry that is exactly what you are hoping to achieve in your breeding program. So let's not bring anthropomorphism into animal reproduction and be PC silly.
I agree with most of what you said. Just want to point out the people, for the most part, haven't been inbred for generations for one specific function to the degree that many dogs have. It isn't just "PC" it's just not a part of history.
All you folks who argue that certain breeds overall are not more trainable or actual the correct term is more biddable aka willing to do your bidding need to look into behavior research. There are always individual outliers in breeds but overall training a dog to work WITH you is why breeds like herders exist. Some dog breeds look for trainers to tell them their next move and some were bred to work alone. Border Collies were not bred for jumping and in fact their conformation often puts them at risk for injury from jumping. But if their biddability was just like any other dog then everybody wouldn't be buying them for agility and especially for their second dog after they see how much easier their friends have training theirs (assuming they can keep up with it). I have had several diverse breeds including herders and terriers plus exposure to them over 40 yrs of vet practice. Many breeds I admire would be very difficult to train, others very easy.
The jumping issue with border collies is why owners of actual working border collies were horrified when AKC allowed them into the AKC and set a standard of breed. The previous standard for working dogs was all function and little concern for looks, exact heights weight etc. Many feel this has changed the breed and not in a good way. Those that need a dog to work a ranch etc continue to look for border collies from working lines that do not have issues breed into them for the sake of confirmation.
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Great video. Appropriately titled and it's nice to be able to hear the judges commands to give people a very real idea of what to expect in trial. Good job and congrats. :)
This has been a huge help. After, at least, 4 decades of not gone to an obedience trial, this is a nice review. I'm excited to be getting back into the fun, and will be scouring youtube for more videos like this one.
thank you so much for posting this! I was curious what an Obedience Trial would be like. (I don't even own a dog yet lol)
The_Cat_Came_Back I love it!
I spy a Schipperke! I love those feisty little fluffies.
Thanks for sharing this. I am about to enter my first obedience trial. I won't be nearly as polished as you were, but I will try to be.
Very nice! Will be starting classes with my pup on learning to do this, then competition. :)
Great Job!
Good job.
I notice each dog competing is a different breed. People fall into 2 categories 1) they already own a dog and train hard. Or 2) they purchase a puppy (of whatever breed) that has a working drive specifically to compete, and train hard.
I saw someone doing Rally with a Pyreneese last trial. What is the difference between her novelty dog and the Golden? It will never be high in trial because its genetics make it slower and it will never move like a golden.
Every competition team trains hard to get where they are. There are just as many slow dopy goldens as those rhat are fast with high drive.
Wow great job!
Thanks for the video. I
How many trials would you estimate a person would have to enter to get an OTCH title?
This looks like so much fun
Great job!! And even better it's not another Shepherd, Border Collie, Sheltie, Golden Retriever...... etc. etc. You really had to train a dog!!!
+Sammi Flynn people who have goldens have to train too!!! What an incredibly insensitive comment. I train with my golden everyday, and have earned our performances.
I think what she meant was that the dog wasn't one you commonly see in competitions like that. It would be the same if you saw a bull mastiff instead off a border collie at an agility competition. ;)
Thanks Girlgeek, that's exactly what I was saying! I know everybody has to train their dogs and even with training success is not a guarantee.
How else do you interpret "You really had to train a dog!!!" other than people with the "common breeds apparently must not...trust me if you met my golden, she is one of the more challenging dogs to train for obedience, regardless of breed. Its a common and stupid concept that somehow people with uncommon breeds work harder than people with more common breeds....its not true, and its a mean thing people say.....until you know exactly how hard other people work, those comments should probably be left un-said.
It all depends on the dog, regardless of breed. Its just a fact that the breeding of dogs started in order to produce certain qualities and characteristics. So, certain breeds have a predisposition to excel in avenues other breeds normally wouldn't.
I admit I get excited to see something other than a border collie in agility competitions for medium and large breeds. It's refreshing. I've started my own dog in agility and I have no idea what she is. The fact that she's having a blast with it is all that matters. :)
Manificent dog well behaved and obedience dog
Belated congratulations, but I just saw the video.
Sammi, i have had a mixed breed lab x newfyx st bernard, a few labs, a golden and all were very trainable. I now have a Border Collie and from my experience this is a very smart dog but almost too smart and ultra sensitive so proving to be more difficult to train. Every waking hour is training with these dogs with down time being literally when they sleep. The dog in the video looks at least part herding dog, heeler,BC or something of the type.
we must not stereotype.
Yes we can stereotype. I realize there are outliers in every breed but breeds were developed for specific jobs and/or biddability and to reproduce those traits, well bred dogs do that. In people it may not be PC to stereotype but in veterinary medicine and animal husbandry that is exactly what you are hoping to achieve in your breeding program. So let's not bring anthropomorphism into animal reproduction and be PC silly.
Sammi Flynn 👏🏼👏🏼
I agree with most of what you said. Just want to point out the people, for the most part, haven't been inbred for generations for one specific function to the degree that many dogs have. It isn't just "PC" it's just not a part of history.
All you folks who argue that certain breeds overall are not more trainable or actual the correct term is more biddable aka willing to do your bidding need to look into behavior research. There are always individual outliers in breeds but overall training a dog to work WITH you is why breeds like herders exist. Some dog breeds look for trainers to tell them their next move and some were bred to work alone. Border Collies were not bred for jumping and in fact their conformation often puts them at risk for injury from jumping. But if their biddability was just like any other dog then everybody wouldn't be buying them for agility and especially for their second dog after they see how much easier their friends have training theirs (assuming they can keep up with it). I have had several diverse breeds including herders and terriers plus exposure to them over 40 yrs of vet practice. Many breeds I admire would be very difficult to train, others very easy.
The jumping issue with border collies is why owners of actual working border collies were horrified when AKC allowed them into the AKC and set a standard of breed. The previous standard for working dogs was all function and little concern for looks, exact heights weight etc.
Many feel this has changed the breed and not in a good way. Those that need a dog to work a ranch etc continue to look for border collies from working lines that do not have issues breed into them for the sake of confirmation.
How to participate in AZ?
Wow dog very obedient they listening what her saying they not barking just walking
So are you not allowed to talk to the dog or give commands ?
The dog should auto sit and maintain a heel once told to. For sit stays, stand stays, and the recall exercise you do give a command.
How long are sit and down stays at a novice trial?
Sits are a minute downs are three minutes