Pellet power & performance - A hunter's guide to shooting air rifles
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2012
- This film clearly explains the fundamentals of setting up your air rifle for the type of hunting you want to do. We compare drop-off between pellet sizes, look at holdover, and show how important it is to zero your rifle at the right distance to improve accuracy. High speed video is used to help us understand how the pellet flies through the air and the compensation needed to make a clean kill. Once happy with the rifle on targets we then head out into the field for rabbits, pigeons and crows. Roy is using an Air Arms S410.
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Why shoot pigeons?
The woodpigeon is recognised as the UK’s number one agricultural pest and causes millions of pounds of damage (AHDB consultation 10-40% loss in yield. Equivalent loss of £125/ha for Oil Seed Rape, £250/ha for peas, £350-£1250/ha for brassicas) to agricultural crops every year including cereals, brassicas, oilseed rape, peas and salad crops. Pigeon damage reduces the yield, quality, appearance and ultimately the saleability of the crop. Pigeons can also cause damage in gardens and allotments - pecking at the leaves and ripping off portions, often leaving just the stalks and larger leaf veins. They may also attack and strip buds, leaves and fruits off trees and bushes.
The UK woodpigeon population was last estimated at 5.4 million pairs in 2009. Densities of wood pigeon are the highest in Eastern England, coinciding with the highest concentration of horticultural production.
Wild pigeon (game) is natural and free range, and it is one of the healthiest meats available today. It’s low in cholesterol and high in protein… and, quite simply, delicious.
Why shoot rabbits?
Rabbits are a major agricultural pest, costing the British economy an estimated £100million a year*. More than half of this figure is accounted for by damage to agricultural crops, with winter wheat, barley and oats being the most vulnerable. In terms of annual yield, a loss of 1% per rabbit per hectare (2.5 acres) has been recorded but overall yields can be reduced by up to 20%. Rabbits also graze on pasture, impacting on newly sewn areas, reducing available grass for livestock and the yield of crops cut for silage.
Wild rabbits burrow under roads, railways and through archaeological sites, causing subsidence and other damage to buildings.
They also contaminate the soil with their urine and droppings, so nothing but weeds can survive. In addition, rabbits chew through the bark of trees, killing nursery stock or young saplings and preventing the natural regeneration of woodland.
A Government survey in 1995 put the UK rabbit population at 37.5 million. This number is thought to have dramatically increased. Farmers and landowners now have a statutory responsibility to manage rabbit populations on their land, to prevent them causing damage to neighbouring properties.
*(Natural England 2007) Развлечения
Nice to see a hunter showing the misses as well as the hits, this is real life hunting.
Thank you to the people involved in making this video. I found it extremely honest and relevant and found alot in common with my experience.
As a fairly newby, I did exactly the same thing, zeroing in my air rifle, in the field. I use a legal limit 12ftlb air rifle .177 calibre.
I found difficulty in hitting my shots at pigeons up in the trees. I guessed that through gravity and the pellet climbing, I would have to use extra holdover.
However, through experience, I've personally found this not always to be the case.
I've personally found pigeon up in trees at forty yards, zeroed at forty yards, doesn't require holdover.
It really is a learning curve, with experience required. The good side is, if you use too much holdover, you'll miss your intended altogether. So that means no wounding, which is a win-win for me.
Thankyou to you all.
Best wishes.
Hello Fieldsports Channel.
Thank you for your like, to my like comment.
What I forgot to write is, when folks like you, post films like this, it gives ordinary people like me confidence to continue and persevere with what I'm trying to achieve. It also makes me feel normal when I seem to be facing the same challenges and hurdles as the pros.
It's also immensely satisfying to achieve your goal in what you are trying to do with the added backup and enthusiasm your films give.. Thankyou.
They damage crops. Watch our latest show to find out more. Ta
What damages crops?
Prob rabbits we have a garden and rabbits eat/damage your crops and food
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to make this video. I learned quite a bit that will prove useful as I make my first foray into the world of air rifles. I've been an outdoorsman and hunter since my youth. I currently use a compound bow, but only for game that's on the ground. This will help provide healthy, nutritious food for me and my family by giving me the ability to gather food quietly from the trees as well as on the ground.
Very helpful video, as I've been zeroing a 177 at 30metres. The comparison between the 22 and 177 and the ranges you chose for zeroing made me feel more comfortable Thank you
Over a million views!, that's brilliant. Well done and keep them coming. Love the Fieldsportschannel, it feels like I know you guys. Many thanks, look forward to seeing a lot more.
That crow got one hair cut loll
Being from the South, I had "a bit of a chuckle" at the sight of a Brit in field camo. But this is an excellent tutorial for dialing in your air gun. We can shoot most anything we like firearm-wise around these parts but air guns are near and dear to a large majority of us. Bettering our chances of an ethical, clean kill is always a priority (unless it's our daughter's suitors in question...).
Cheers.
What's funny about a brit in field camo? encase you haven't noticed its pretty green and woody over here so yeah wearing camo make sense duh.
Thank you for a very informative video. I learned a lot about pellet drop I could not believe how fast they drop off.
The graph though crudely drawn are very informative.
I thought I was the only using boxes and magic markers for target production.
Thank you for taking the time to show this video, I'm an ex target shooter, used to shooting low powered smooth air rifles and small bore long rifles, now I'm been drafted in by my girlfriend to control our rabbit population in the orchard as they are under mining it and she gets the lawn mower stuck which damages the steering, and not to mention break an ankle in the holes! I have acquired a powerful 12ft/lb .22 springer and now will look into a good spring rated mill dot scope, I can range OK by the apple trees but I might put some markers out, I will mostly be shooting from the window. For now I'm learning to group with the springy springer. I will zero at 30yrds and see if that helps. Thanks.
That rabbit heard it coming his way.
His reaction time wasn''t fast enough to duck but the fact it went over his head helped. Just for your knowledge a projectile makes a hissing sound when its headed in your direction.
I found out because i was standing outside smoking one day and heard shots from the next block over and a SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS sound just as i heard several plinking sounds as stray bullets hit a light pole above my head that i was leaning on.
I have never forgotten that sound.
crownprince76 yes its sounds like....zzzzip or sssip.
Nicely edited. Good info on range correction for pellet accuracy. Found a cam scope mount knock off on eBay for $15.
What a fantastic video. I have been looking for something along these lines for a bit. You showed the trajectory for both .22 and .177 and with such detail. I never thought about zeroing in like that. I use open sights and a 10.5 grain .177 pellet from a Webley Vulcan and usually just zero at average shooting distance about 20 yards. I am going to invest in a scope and really do some honing in after seeing this. Thanks again from the US.
Best Mil-Dot explanation video I have seen! Thank you
I'm going to settle the whole anti hunting concept right here. I work as a conservationist, and there are times I have to tap a few critters for various reasons. Disease, over population, and the risk associated to property and crops are just a few reasons why I have to kill them. If I trap a mink I have to kill it humanely, shooting it works well, better than breaking it's neck or stoving it's head in with a baton, which is the only other methods. Now if it's safe to do so, I will eat what I've killed, and I use it's fur. It's a way of life for me. Now I'm not barbaric, I love nature and the critters around, that's why I love my job. However I understand that we have to control the populations or we get over run and they starve to death. Barbarism is causing needless suffering, something I'm completely against, I kill humanely. Now I take it if you can't stand animals dying, if your dog was dying of cancer you'd call the vet evil for ending it's suffering. I'm sorry but when I cull old deer it's because their teeth are bad and they will starve to death, in that spence I'm just doing a vets job with a high powered rifle.
Once I was riding my motorcycle in the rain.
A "momma cat" with a kitten in her mouth crossed my path and I ran it over.
Turned out it was a mink stealing a kitten.
So I saved the kitten and my bike, and cut the mink in half 👌
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Nice copy pasta.
Blazingfire what type Tagitelle
@@hijustacommenter10yearsand10 HOW DID YOU COMMENT 10 YEARS AGO ON THIS THREAD!!!!
(good classic youtube name btw)
This an incredibly informative video, thank you very much for this.
I cull pigeons at my place of work (we store thousands of tons of animal feed) and they are wise to hunters. They know when you rise your rifle and strategically move around to avoid the shot.
I'm sure an older rabbit/hair would react the same.
Nice shooting and good explanation of sighting in your targets.
Hi Please don't take down this very good video that easily explains how to zero in your air rifle for the correct distance/pellet etc. I have watched it several times. Thanks
Stop crying in the RUclips comments section about animal rights. Nobody cares. if you don't approve of the activities in this video, watch something else or better get get off the computer and get involved in politics if you feel so strong about a bird getting shot.
The worst part is that they explain exactly why they shoot these animals, and people still bitch about it. If it was COMPLETELY pointless, I could understand the uproar, but it is just ridiculous how naive these people are.
pythagorianation You are assuming that these people actually watched the video.
Andrew Harmer
Very good point... #DowniesOnDisplay
Great video. I've been trying to decide what range to zero my scope. This video has really helped to explain how to make that decision. Thank you very much. I love all your video's. Very helpful.
👍 Danke fürs Hochladen!
👍 Thanks for uploading!
love my AA410. but I have the new side lever and it is a FAC model. 30+ ftlbs in .22 with 18gr JSBs. really carries the power down range at 50/60/70 yards. even at 100 yards I still can hit clay pigeons using mildots with not much of a problem.
Watching that rabbit reminded me of a hunt I had. It’s like when they “jump the string” when you’re bow hunting. It’s that sound from the weapon when sending a sub-sonic round or arrow. They hear it just before it hits them. I think that’s why it’s important to have a good silencer for your air rifle. I had a rabbit just sit there after I took a head shot on him with my 22 at roughly 100 yrds. He just sat there and gave me a second shot. Second shot went right through the head clean. When I had got to him I had pierced both his ears with the first shot.
You pierced the rabbits ears with your first shot...and it just sat there? I smell something.....
@@stan690 You have no idea how tripped out I was. First of all they just freeze like they can retroactively disappear from your view by just turning to stone. All I can think is he really didn’t think I saw him or hit him. But before god, when I picked him up after the second shot he had two perfect holes toward the base of each ear with a light line on the neck. Only explanation I can come up with is the first bullet pierced his ears. When you folded them back it all lined up. Weirdest thing I’ve seen to date hunting.
Legend has it the crow is still bald plated to this day and all the rest crows call him monk....🤣😂
i am into .22 lr but recently i was interested in air rifles.. kudos to you ...this video shows the difference between a rifle cartridge and a air rifle . air rifle pellets tends to drop too much. please do post such videos which are very imformative
I live in the US and I still love my 22 cal. pellet rifle. I Love my 12 gauge more though. :)
Mil dots are only consistent on full magnification. If you alter the zoom or magnification up or down the mil dot compensation distance changes. The only way around this is to purchase a more expensive first focal plane scope. The reticle size will then get bigger or smaller as you zoom in and out meaning that the mil dots will always be accurate at all magnification settings.
Excellent video!!! Very informative and well presented. Thank you!!
Great video mate
Great professional video. All air gunners should watch this. The trajectory curve shows that you should not be targeting live quarry beyond 35 yes with a 12ft/lb 22 - the drop off and windage are too great to be sure of a clean kill.
I just loved how he shows his misses to, thats real hunting, you fail, you will fail, thats how you learn, and some people skips those parts just to show that they are really skilled, no man, when shooting rifles or snipers, you gotta keep in mind about wind too, it changes every second, so there is a 40% chance of missing the shot, and my missing i don't mean you don't kill him, but maybe you get the target on his shoulder, or on his legs insted of a head shot. But thats how you get better! Practice. And yeah if you shooting a real .50 CAL then nigga we should hangout sometime.
Awesome. I watched the video and it was really interesting. I would love to do this. But i have a question. Where to get the mount for the camera.@fieldsportschannel
Hi - specialist telescope shops/sites have adaptor mounts for cameras. / Charlie
thanks!!!!
Really interesting vid, cheers!!
Great shooting. I'm from Oklahoma and grew up hunting and you taught me a thing or two..... Cheers .
I hear air rifles are also good against 'Vegans', its important to keep their numbers down...
Bro I’m vegan
That's mean
✅😜👌😅
You're a dick!
Yep we dont need anymore of them...Good for you vegans and vegetarians but stop acting like youre better than anyone else and stop trying to shove it down our throatsl lol youre not Jesus Christ.
I find this video very interesting and entertaining! Its is the best video in RUclips where its explained the distance from air rifles. Thank you
Really good video, well done.
hi Charlie/guys,
i live in the uk and have a walther century ( which i got new 1 year ago)11 ft pound .22 spring air rifle.... its performance i feel has gone downhill, and i think i might have dry fired it - would this effect the rifle?? if so what should i do?
Thanks
I can just hear the other Crows, Hey nice haircut!...LOL
Excellent job! Look out rabbits, it's dinner time! I'm going to use this technique with my .22 cal Gamo.
What you camera and scope mount?
Hi, I have a big question, if I have a 7.62 caliber weapon (30) can I shoot with a smaller caliber? such as being 6.35 (25) or even 4.5 (177) (exchange and storage with the appropriate pellets). I do not know if it stains a weapon to not break it.
You have to use the same calibre pellets as your gun barrel.
GREAT VIDEO
the best airgun channel.. thanks. from Argentina!
lol
What about Ted's holdover?
where can I find a camera mount. I have been looking for an adapter for the scope to mount a camera or video camera.
Very helpful. Would not have thought about the zoom on the scope effecting the distance of the mil dots on the scope reticle.
Awesome video in my opinion, I love hunting and pellets weapons
excellent. i learned a lot. much appreciated
want to knw where to get that camera mount. noone here in new zealand stocks it and i cant record my hunting tll i get one does anyone know where i can get one???
Iv just got into shooting and just found your channel cracking video mate got a new sub atb jimmy 😎😎
Cheers Jimmy
its always difficult to know if a hunting video is a good video or not because people dislike it just because of its people hunting makes its hard to know if I should spend the time watching it or not
great video
i love the narrator`s use of the term ( proper rifle ) , good sighting /shooting exercise
Hi, i want to mount my camera Panasonic dmc-t27, what mount are you using and where can i buy one? Thanks
Someone call Morpheus, we've found Neo the rabbit at 13:25 ... he is The One.
+Que Willbewillbe the only performance in this video...
Lmao dude gold
I'm not saying you will be able to dodge pellets. I'm saying that when you're ready, you won't need to
How many joules of power does your air rifle have? I wonder because the shot drops that much after 50yd.
Hi im an avid hunter as you can see from my picture. Im looking at getting a pcp maruader not sure of caliber hoping someone can help. I shoot mainly at 50yrds+. With a mill dot scope does it matter about drop. Ive heard of people say 177 better down range but 22 better for knock down power. Really confused about what to do and buy.....
very helpfull video thanks for sharing
This is kind of awesome
Always has been
Indeed
Some annoying wood pigeons have been crapping all over my car/porch lately and I want to deal with them, but I can't use my shotgun outside of a firing range due to local laws and I find poisoning them to be cruel + might endanger my cats if I am not mistaken. So I was wondering if my air rifle that shoots 4,5mm 8g Predator Polymag pellets at roughly 199 MPS (656 FPS) would guarantee a clean kill for a reasonably well (general chest area) aimed shot. I wouldn't want them to get wounded and die slowly in pain. Help would be greatly appreciated
Kind Regards Homer
yep. and they taste good.
Turkey trail honey bee farm Georgia So it will be a clean kill?
+homerun443 as clean as killing can be.
Turkey trail honey bee farm Georgia Thank you, sir.
I second that. It is more than capable of passing clean through a pigeon.
Good video and good information 👍🏻👍🏻👌👌
Just wondering if it is hard to get used to sighting thru a camera instead of cheek welding while looking thru a scope?
RUclips seem to have this vid sorted as a pet video, which would explain some of the rancid snowflake comments...
Some of us didn’t lose our innocence, and still see this is cruel and unnecessary. But fuck you.
@@TheRoarWithin lol he's hunting food for his pets.
Is your dog/cat vegetarian?
Also welcome to reality. Why don't you go shame some tribes for killing predatory tigers.
@@TheRoarWithin snowflake alert
@@twatx0310 Cold hearted Bastard alert
@@TheRoarWithin silly, uneducated boy.
Lol gave that first crow a haircut hehehe
Quandary121 ha ha ha.
😅
Quandary121 he got a temp fade
I've shot hundreds of rabbit with air rifles...right below the ear is the best shot placement
While I am not anti-gun by any means (I have a "rotation" of concealed handguns.) I haven't shot a critter in over 50 years. And in my current situation I don't see the need or the attraction. Your results may vary. However I do have several air guns that I can shoot on my property without breaking any gun laws and I found this video fascinating. Nicely done!
Thank you for helping me choose how to zero my air gun out! This video was very fun to watch!
Looks like bird got a haircut 6:05
Hey can you little bit germany 👓red lesen
I have breakbaroll gun we can i this to sniper perfekt non helpstation configuret ? Of 10 - 20meter thank you very wen you mi tips tricks per video clip schoing can please
Very useful video thanks
8:22 ...Mr Anderson!... it's Neo!
Your rabbit your gun and you can do anything
Very nice video i learn a lot can you tell me how many joule your air rifle have or fps thanks.
Where did you get that mount setup for the camera to look through the scope?
excellent video great shooting and the zeroing is all well done,, the one thing i would say is that in every shooting scenario i have been involved in or taught is that you never shoot without a solid background, over a ridge or roof line,, a silhouette is a wonderful clear target but if you miss the pellet is going to land somewhere you didn't anticipate, the crow you clipped is a case in point,, i'm sure you were in the perfect location but other people who follow your example may not be,, really good video
Try an FAC rifle? 12 lb rifles are ridiculous !
I prefer my .17 HMR!
Utterly efficient so is a silenced .22 LR
I use RWS sub sonic and it works!
Hi. If I have a 25 caliber weapon I can shoot with a smaller or even larger caliber like 30?
Nope.
Hi Like the Channel. can i ask how you mounted the scope to the air gun. Do you have a vid of it??
Cheers
I'm a vegetarian, I can watch this without any qualms.
I understand the necessity for culling in some cases, especially with feral birds.
Finally, someone with a fucking brain.
Someone with a working brain
Loved the bionic bunny that heard and saw the shot. Then again maybe bugs caught a whiff of hai karate... Roy?
Nice info and good video!
Should I use bbs or pellets? If im just target shooting. and small pests like pigeons, squirells, birds.
5:40 Free Haircut.. lol XD
I never knew pellet guns where that strong
These are not strong pellet rifles. They are very accurate. England limits to 12 fpe, typical USA is 15 fpe and magnums are over 20fpe.
Great episode.
very informative love it thanx for the info
on a sub 12 ft,lbs rifle is it ethical to try to take game at 50 + yards
with the drop in velocity you are running very low on a already low energy.
the only reason i ask is that i do not really know the ballistics of the 177-.22 cal sub 12 ft,lbs. At 50 + yards is it enough?
Having the advantage here of having a much larger "power" curve with what I would hope close to if not the same accuracy.
BTW. 20 yards for a crow?
You cant get 50 yards to a crow on the west cost of Oregon with blow gun let alone a air rifle
I love how im just sitting here watching videos of shit getting merked.
Brilliant video .... Thank you 👍🏼
Can't stop watching this smut. I understand the idea of thinning out a population before it over eats everything and starts to make a mess of things (ex: deer related automobile accidents).
if you don't like it don't click on it
The rabbit at the end is from 'The Matrix'.
Lorne M , that's the sixth sense... I think so !
hey where did yor get the cam. mont for the scope?
Good info, keep 'em coming.
I love the haircut you gave that crow, American Bald Crow.
I really do not get why some people react with such emotion to videos like this. Mankind is a predator, our forward facing eyes and binocular vision attest to it. Folks get on and complain in the comments, but if you eat meat, if you drive a car, if you use electricity, if you live in a house, if you wear cotton or wool, if you wear jewellery if you do any number of mundane modern activities then you too have contributed to the death or displacement of some critter.
The best thing that the animal lovers can do for the wild animals is to commit mass suicide, let the creatures take over. Very few men live in harmony with the environment and those primitive tribes that do are hunters. I challenge any vegan, go live in the bush and try to survive on nuts and grains alone....you will quickly be killing and eating with the best of them.
yes man may be a predator but most dont kill for fun only to eat, killing for fun is prity fucked up in my book.
Killing other living things, especially mammals, gives natural boosts of adrenaline and endorphins and can be very therapeutic. That can all be scientifically shown.
for added effect drink the dying/dead animal's highly adrenalated blood right after the kill!
@@BRM101, While I agree it's not "normalized" for civilization, you obviously haven't been in nature too much, ALL sorts of creatures kill for the hell of it, and MOST predators eat their "victims" alive.
mayalman thank you you said that very well brother.
whats a good range finder to buy that's cheap but does the job? thanks
Very Good video , thanks
Even though I never used a pellet gun to hunt rabbits, I still think a .22 is the best for rabbits
So you havent tried .20 in a Rapid