Apologies to my British viewers for the horrible accent. If you want to grab yourself a PicoGUS check out the links below! Project Page: github.com/polpo/picogus Buy a PicoGUS: picog.us/
Just because it makes me laugh "If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music"
I've been waffling on getting one of these for a while, and this video convinced me to get on the waitlist for one. It's probably the most cost-effective way for me to get some hands-on time with a Gravis Ultrasound!
I don’t necessarily think that the creators of these projects are exploiting the community at all, it’s just very clear that at the low volume these people can operate at the economy of scale is not kicking in. They gotta break even at least, but it doesn’t mean I have two hundred dollars or more for an Orpheus.
I agree. These types of things are high effort projects and I think there are much better ways to make a dishonest buck if that is your shtick. However, every time I've covered clones in the past there are always a few people in the comments who make that claim.
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! More are coming. As for my setup for recording CRTs I use a Panasonic GH5 at about 400 ISO and a Meike 60mm F2.8 lens. Some of my earlier videos I used the open camera app on my phone which I actually have a tutorial on for shooting CRTs. In a nutshell it's all about syncing the shutter speed to the monitors refresh rate. I switched to the GH5 so I could get better quality, but it also has a really great feature that allows very granular control using an electric shutter setting called synchro scan. With that you can makes changes to the shutter speed in 0.1 increments. This is super helpful in cases where the refresh rate is slightly off and you can set it to something like 60.2 to smooth the flicker out.
Finding games that are said to be compatible but don't work for me is the authentic experience. Are your sure it is emulation? That sounds just like how I remember it.
Thanks! I think I did install the Gravis PnP patch(prepgame) from when I had the GUS clone installed. That might be messing it up though honestly. I should probably just do a fresh install of Descent and see if it works.
Thanks for the video! Regarding Descent, I had a similar problem when using Descent with an external Roland Midi device. It crashed during startup. After I downloaded a newer version from the internet it worked just fine. The version I am using now is 1.4a from May 2nd 1995. I do not have a PicoGUS yet, so I cannot confirm if that works but maybe it fixes your issue :)
Would it be possible to use two in one machine, or should I also look into this and PicoMem for the Adlib portion? I only ask, as I'll be getting my Amiga 2000 with 286 bridgeboard repaired, and want to have both Adlib and GUS at the same time. Just wish I had a 386 bridgeboard, so I could run ScreamTracker 3 to make songs with GUS and Adlib at the same time.
Hello! Sorry for the late reply. I think Ian Scott(the project leader) said in a comment that two cards at once should be possible. You might want to check with him on the specifics though. @ianpolpo
Yes, there is an adapter included that gives you a MIDI output. I think MT32 emulation is something they are planning to possibly incorporate in the future(with a firmware update) but as of right now all you have is 3.5mm to MIDI out for real devices.
I recently got one after being on the waitlist for a couple of months. Sure, they are sold out at present, but there's no reason to believe that they won't be available in the future. Moreover, the project is open source and anyone is free to build one themselves. Even if polpo decides not to create any more, someone else on Tindie could sell them in the future. This video is hardly a joke.
Can the card play Wizardry 7 Soundblaster sounds properly? This game relied on a real OPL3 chip and used some errors in it to produce correct sounds. It would be very interesting to know if this card can do that. The DosBox does not work but PCEM and x86box emulating real soundcards work. I will get such a card myself also, thanks
The GUS people were the "beat the system" types but they were quite annoyed with games that didn't support their alternative way of choosing a sound card. I was pretty happy owning an SBpro that played every game out there.
Yeah if you were a gamer back then a Sound Blaster made way more sense. Easy to set up, high compatibility and the sound was good enough. The GUS worked out well for musicians and the games that supported it though. However, I must say its fun messing with it now.
RP2040 and ESP32 (with FabGL) have been powering a lot of cool, inexpensive hardware lately. I'm glad more people get to experience a GUS now(I already did, back in the 90's). The ESP32 by itself is a decent PC emulator and the latest P4 version of that looks targeted for more performance with some 2D acceleration, so perhaps we'll get some video cards or single-board microcomputer designs exploiting that...
Im aiming to regain a Tandy 1000 RL like i had growing up, and if i do this and a floppy drive emulator, and i think i would be set! plus it has a usb game port, so maybe get some NES USB controller and pop in it for old XT Games (which were usually two button).
I mean I cant objectively complain about this, and it isn't exactly unprecedented for expansion cards to be more powerful than their host system. And I dont care what the card is doing under the hood if it sounds like THAT!
Thanks for video. As the wiki states, doesn't work on an IBM 286 PS/2 8mhz computer. Needs faster, like 386+. However, maybe I can program the pico to emulate something like a MT-32 on a fast PC and then try again with the 286.
Just confirmed that you can flash the picogus on a 386+ computer and then use that flashed picgus on a 286 computer. Listening to games using the MT-32 flash on an IBM PS/2 286 8mhz machine
A few things have been updated since this video. All the modes are now contained in the picogus.uf2 firmware. You can now switch modes instantly using PSUSINIT.EXE /mode without the need to reflash everytime you want to switch.
I hear ya. More are being made though! Sign up for the waitlist and hopefully you can get one when the next batch comes around. Unlike repros, there is no shortage of the parts used for this so hopefully stocking issues will ease up as time goes on.
If they can get nukedOPL running on it it'd be pretty flawless. I'm sure it's going to make a lot of people really happy, but personally I don't really see the point. If I'm going to use emulation I'd just use DOSBOX on modem hardware
@@z00k Looks like he is no longer selling via Tindie, but they are still being produced and sold to other storefronts depending on your country. Check picog.us/ to see where you can buy one.
There are definitely some hurdles that would prevent that from working as well. The way the PCI bus communicates is a bit of an issue when you're trying to run old software. Some motherboards have better support with things like SBlink, but PCI cards and DOS programs are a bit of a nightmare.
With the latest firmware, you don't need to reflash the card to switch emulation modes anymore. You just use the /mode command line switch when you run pgusinit.
Apologies to my British viewers for the horrible accent. If you want to grab yourself a PicoGUS check out the links below!
Project Page: github.com/polpo/picogus
Buy a PicoGUS: picog.us/
No offence taken my man :D
@@UnseenMenaceThanks. I only hope it was slightly better than Dick Van Dyke's attempts. lol
It's pretty funny, INIT?
Great video! I will be renaming the project to Pico de GUSo effective immediately.
Haha thanks. Keep up the great work, this thing is so fun to mess with.
$45 is an absolute bargain ... ridiculously cheap ! I would happily pay double or more for this card.
Yeah, all things considered I don't think building your own would be much cheaper.
Just because it makes me laugh
"If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music"
I'm yet another victim of the video game industry. Don't do games kids.
I've been waffling on getting one of these for a while, and this video convinced me to get on the waitlist for one. It's probably the most cost-effective way for me to get some hands-on time with a Gravis Ultrasound!
For sure. I'm hoping in the future it will be able to do so much more as well!
I just joined the waitlist. I wish it had a SoundBlaster and wavetable support and the same time.
I wonder if you could use two of them at a time flashed with different firmware? Slightly silly but it would be cool.
I think it’s doable! One of the next things I’m going to try is simultaneous SB and MPU-401 emulation.
I don’t necessarily think that the creators of these projects are exploiting the community at all, it’s just very clear that at the low volume these people can operate at the economy of scale is not kicking in. They gotta break even at least, but it doesn’t mean I have two hundred dollars or more for an Orpheus.
I agree. These types of things are high effort projects and I think there are much better ways to make a dishonest buck if that is your shtick. However, every time I've covered clones in the past there are always a few people in the comments who make that claim.
add scrap computing mt32-pi wavetable and you also have builtin mt32 and midi soundfonts. My fav combo right now :-)
That is a great idea!
Best engagement sequence ever for OMF - x200 subscribes and x1000 likes.
I hope so. I was dancing my heart out.
Thanks for your video. I have the Picogus DIY, all parts and the PCB are waiting for me to install them 😊
That's awesome, I don't think you will be disappointed.
Do it! It's a fun build 😊
Awesome project of Ian👏 And 45$ seem to be a bargain regarding its versatility.
Agreed! I hope they become more readily available to everyone soon. I wonder how many he is producing at a time right now?
The Pi Pico is probably more powerful than a lot of the PCs this card is going in. I think that's cool 😊
I just found this channel and I like it a lot! Great shots of the monitors as well! Would like to learn how you pulled them out.
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! More are coming. As for my setup for recording CRTs I use a Panasonic GH5 at about 400 ISO and a Meike 60mm F2.8 lens. Some of my earlier videos I used the open camera app on my phone which I actually have a tutorial on for shooting CRTs. In a nutshell it's all about syncing the shutter speed to the monitors refresh rate.
I switched to the GH5 so I could get better quality, but it also has a really great feature that allows very granular control using an electric shutter setting called synchro scan. With that you can makes changes to the shutter speed in 0.1 increments. This is super helpful in cases where the refresh rate is slightly off and you can set it to something like 60.2 to smooth the flicker out.
Finding games that are said to be compatible but don't work for me is the authentic experience. Are your sure it is emulation?
That sounds just like how I remember it.
haha you're not wrong, a real GUS is a pain in rump to get working especially the PnP version.
Nice video! Also with Descent and GUS, did you install any of the GUS fix patches for it? I know I had to when using a real GUS on Descent.
Thanks! I think I did install the Gravis PnP patch(prepgame) from when I had the GUS clone installed. That might be messing it up though honestly. I should probably just do a fresh install of Descent and see if it works.
11:30: I guess did boost engagement. Wasn't expecting a impromptu dance sequence! 😹
Thanks for the video! Regarding Descent, I had a similar problem when using Descent with an external Roland Midi device. It crashed during startup. After I downloaded a newer version from the internet it worked just fine. The version I am using now is 1.4a from May 2nd 1995. I do not have a PicoGUS yet, so I cannot confirm if that works but maybe it fixes your issue :)
Good point, I think I'm just using my CD copy so patching it might help.
with an optical output it would be perfect!
That is a brilliant idea. Imagine running a GUS through a home theater system. lol
@@DOSStorm exactly and with perfectly clean sound 👌
Optical is simple to add, there are PIO Code for SPDIF, and it need only one Pin
@@freddyvretrozone2849 amazing hope POLPO know this 🙏
Would it be possible to use two in one machine, or should I also look into this and PicoMem for the Adlib portion? I only ask, as I'll be getting my Amiga 2000 with 286 bridgeboard repaired, and want to have both Adlib and GUS at the same time. Just wish I had a 386 bridgeboard, so I could run ScreamTracker 3 to make songs with GUS and Adlib at the same time.
Hello! Sorry for the late reply. I think Ian Scott(the project leader) said in a comment that two cards at once should be possible. You might want to check with him on the specifics though. @ianpolpo
hi .. a question , about the midi port , it's only out not midi in ??
It is out only I believe.
I see you there 7:45 aligning the "focus" of this card with the camera adjusting the "focus" 😉
Is it possible to connect a MT32 Pi to this card?
So we can have Roland MT32 and Sound Canvas combined with a nice ISA card?
Or can this device itself even emulate the MT32 and the Sound Canvas so no other hardware is necessary?
Yes, there is an adapter included that gives you a MIDI output. I think MT32 emulation is something they are planning to possibly incorporate in the future(with a firmware update) but as of right now all you have is 3.5mm to MIDI out for real devices.
Finding a Pico Gus 2.0 sound card these days is like trying to locate a Bigfoot dropping an album on vinyl. This is a Joke.
You're not wrong. However, as long as they keep being produced the stock issues will hopefully clear up sooner or later.
I recently got one after being on the waitlist for a couple of months. Sure, they are sold out at present, but there's no reason to believe that they won't be available in the future. Moreover, the project is open source and anyone is free to build one themselves. Even if polpo decides not to create any more, someone else on Tindie could sell them in the future. This video is hardly a joke.
Can the card play Wizardry 7 Soundblaster sounds properly? This game relied on a real OPL3 chip and used some errors in it to produce correct sounds. It would be very interesting to know if this card can do that. The DosBox does not work but PCEM and x86box emulating real soundcards work. I will get such a card myself also, thanks
Sounds fantastic !
The GUS people were the "beat the system" types but they were quite annoyed with games that didn't support their alternative way of choosing a sound card. I was pretty happy owning an SBpro that played every game out there.
Yeah if you were a gamer back then a Sound Blaster made way more sense. Easy to set up, high compatibility and the sound was good enough. The GUS worked out well for musicians and the games that supported it though. However, I must say its fun messing with it now.
@@DOSStorm My post was mostly fun, but I appreciate your serious response. GUS was a superior card.
RP2040 and ESP32 (with FabGL) have been powering a lot of cool, inexpensive hardware lately. I'm glad more people get to experience a GUS now(I already did, back in the 90's). The ESP32 by itself is a decent PC emulator and the latest P4 version of that looks targeted for more performance with some 2D acceleration, so perhaps we'll get some video cards or single-board microcomputer designs exploiting that...
Great project ! I am waiting for the pcimcia version for my retro laptop (f *** maestro sound on board)
I was unaware there is a PCIMCIA version coming out. That sounds amazing!
Sadly, it doesn't emulate the EMU8000 chip sound of AWE32 (and SB32). That's a sure dealbreaker for me.
What's the name of the track at the 10:02 time mark?
Its called "HunabKu*PlasmaTitlan" You can get it on Modarchive.org
Im aiming to regain a Tandy 1000 RL like i had growing up, and if i do this and a floppy drive emulator, and i think i would be set! plus it has a usb game port, so maybe get some NES USB controller and pop in it for old XT Games (which were usually two button).
I mean I cant objectively complain about this, and it isn't exactly unprecedented for expansion cards to be more powerful than their host system.
And I dont care what the card is doing under the hood if it sounds like THAT!
que hombre de cultura que conoce el pico de gallo!
I wish I was more cultured, but alas, I had to translate your comment. XD
I still have a GUS MAX and a GUS ACE somewhere. I most probably have no working PC with ISA slots anymore. Still, I want this now :D
That stinks. Those are very valuable cards these days. Maybe it's time to build yourself a retro rig. :)
Sounds good.
Bah-dum KSSH!
Thanks for video. As the wiki states, doesn't work on an IBM 286 PS/2 8mhz computer. Needs faster, like 386+. However, maybe I can program the pico to emulate something like a MT-32 on a fast PC and then try again with the 286.
Just confirmed that you can flash the picogus on a 386+ computer and then use that flashed picgus on a 286 computer. Listening to games using the MT-32 flash on an IBM PS/2 286 8mhz machine
where can i get the uf2 files from
A few things have been updated since this video. All the modes are now contained in the picogus.uf2 firmware. You can now switch modes instantly using PSUSINIT.EXE /mode without the need to reflash everytime you want to switch.
Hi, can this card emulate opl 3 in the future?
I'm not sure but I'm guessing it is in the works. There have been many updates to this card even since I've done this video.
@@DOSStorm Either way, it’s best to buy and support this project! 🙌
now here me out... PicoGUS dipped in Pico de gallo
Ah yes...Tomatoes and microplastics. Tasty. lol
Nice video. Thanks.
Nice shirt!!!😎
Thanks! I just got the chance to see them live a few weeks ago. It was a blast.
when your MCU in soundcard is more powerful than whole PC itself 😂
Ironic isn't it?
Aaaaaand it’s out of stock. I swear, just once I’d like to hear about one of these projects while there’s still stock available.
I hear ya. More are being made though! Sign up for the waitlist and hopefully you can get one when the next batch comes around. Unlike repros, there is no shortage of the parts used for this so hopefully stocking issues will ease up as time goes on.
back in stock
If they can get nukedOPL running on it it'd be pretty flawless.
I'm sure it's going to make a lot of people really happy, but personally I don't really see the point. If I'm going to use emulation I'd just use DOSBOX on modem hardware
Mainly just for fun or for musicians who want to use ancient trackers with a real PC. DOSBOX is definitely the most convenient option though.
"Product Retired
This product is no longer available for sale."
@@z00k Looks like he is no longer selling via Tindie, but they are still being produced and sold to other storefronts depending on your country.
Check picog.us/ to see where you can buy one.
Both red and acidic
Its expensive to do smaller batches. Its a lot of work.
Why do I need a sound card?!
For sound of course!
If they made a pci variant of it it will be best
There are definitely some hurdles that would prevent that from working as well. The way the PCI bus communicates is a bit of an issue when you're trying to run old software. Some motherboards have better support with things like SBlink, but PCI cards and DOS programs are a bit of a nightmare.
Who I have a sudden urge to play syndicate.
three people clearly did not appreciate great dance moves.
Pico de gallo!!!! hahahaha
Reminds me of @fagear 's project FMonster (ruclips.net/video/Emzo-da5DQc/видео.html)
Interesting, I'll have to check it out... thanks!
11:32..
+1
;-D
Simonis Bypass
Sponsored review of an open source card 😂
Hey, I'm just trying to be transparent with you guys. lol
👍😂
Booo
Where can I download pg-adlib.uf2, pg-mpu.uf2 ...?? Thanks
With the latest firmware, you don't need to reflash the card to switch emulation modes anymore. You just use the /mode command line switch when you run pgusinit.
@@DOSStorm Thanks