Jank moves in NASB 2
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- NASB 2 is an improvement from the first game in many ways, but commonality they share is how janky some of the moves are. In this video, I go over some of the moves and characters that I thought were the most jank or poorly tuned.
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The most jank move in the game is shielding
In what way if you don't mind explaining? I've actually been trying to look into how good or not good shielding is in this game compared to ultimate but haven't found any concrete info.
@@Metabolica1you cant shield poke so camping with shield is about eight thousand times easier
Yeah getting parried whenever you try to slime cancel is so annoying
I hate shield poking. If I press shield and its not broken, It shouldnt hit me.
@@putchristfirst4610 Either learn to shift your shield without rolling or don't abuse shield (or just go to Street Fighter and pick a charge character, I'm a Honda main so I'm down-backing all day when I'm not being degenerate and getting away with it). Maybe the one exception I'd say I agree with that is Jigglypuff because getting shieldbroken is literal death, she can have a shield that doesn't shrink. I'm guessing you main Yoshi?
Are platform fighters without Jank even platform fighters?
TRUE
They need to change how shields look. Shields getting smaller, but not being able to shield poke makes the gameplay feel off. Just make shields get darker like yoshi's shield. Also making the grab animations last longer would be nice. Your characters looks actionable way way sooner than they actually are if you whiff grab which makes gameplay awkward
I think recoveries need to be toned down a bit across the board and they need to get rid of knockback canceling with burst. It feels like a chore to take stocks sometimes because characters can live for so damn long so you just end up treating the game like Ultimate where you ledge trap characters to death while rinse and repeating.
I hated shield poking. If im shielding why should I be punshied like it broke?
They have a circle around the shield to show that you can’t poke it I feel like it isn’t that hard to understand
@@dr_drew_ yea idk what to say. The shield doesn’t cover the character model. So feels weird to hit a part of the character outside of the shield and have it be shielded to me. maybe it’s just a personal issue. The eyes could turn green to signify shielding and it wouldn’t be hard to understand but I’d still probably want it to be different?
@@gargator4888No pls don't nerf spongebob's up special he can barely recover as is. 😭😭😭
The second painting in Squidward's moveset is a parody of the piece 'American Gothic' by Grant Wood, created in 1930. The piece's title is actually referring to the style of the house behind the people.
the fact the grandma is the equivalent to falcon is amazing
Falcon + Faust
Grandma Gerties down special is similar to Faust's item toss from Guilty Gear
Please do this for other characters! I thought i was the only person who noticed these things or felt this way. Loved the video!
If we didnt have Jank in Platform Fighters, people wouldnt love them. SSBM is a perfect example of this
I have been saying Raphael side b needs to buffed, and that his up tilt is just bad. But you worded it much better. I didn't have much issue with back air though but your right it doesn't match visually. Hopefully in a patch they fix some of it.
Aw Hell naw squidward got that jank hitbox
Danny's dtilt put me in a mental ward.
You forgot about squidword’s kick with the jank hitbox
Skodward got that janky ahh hitbox
That painting is called "American Gothic." I always thought it was a farmer and his wife, but it's actually a farmer and his daughter.
Thanks, I knew the reference but I just didn't feel like looking it up 😅
personally I think they should keep in raphael's up b cancelling on the top platform, kragg in rivals has a similar funny interaction where if you turn around on the frame you would fall off a ledge while using side b you skip the super long turnaround animation and immediately go the other way at full speed, and while it's ridiculously hard to do manually there just so happens to be one pair of platforms on one stage that autotime the setup for you, and the devs saw it, thought it was cool and left it in
yeah I agree it's actually pretty sick, besides it's not incredibly useful anyways and it's also not even a good stage for him
Great vod would love to see each characters jank!
NASB 2 has a lot of jank, but most of this is just "I think this balance is a bit off" and I don't think most of them aren't even that big of a deal given the games high power level across the board.
agreed, just somethings I thought were kinda funny so that's why I made the video
Did you know that spongebob up-throw can be shielded on the tmnt stage if you are under the platform and I mean if you get grabbed, get hit with up-throw, you can shield most of the move because for some reason the platform causes restand.
This game is comparable to Melee with how comprehensive it is.
Sadly, this game also shares Melee's jank.
Thankfully the game is new, and gamemill seems like the kind of people who would try and fix the issues considering the fact that they already put this much time into it. Can't wait for the patches, overall this game seems very balanced.
Agreed, but honestly hope they focus much more on polishing the game than balancing characters. The game needs to feel better first. @@mweepbeep1128
Also, the general weight to the characters and the knockback / launch speed is very reminiscent of melee too!
Gotta say, I didn't know the training mod was so good in this game. Maybe I'll pick it up
You got a new subscriber! Keep it up amazing content hopefully more people subscribe!
Bro Spongebob saying **OOGA** has me 😂😂😂😂
I love the jank capabilities
Man making a whole video just to tell the world you have no idea what you're doing is a flex. Not sure what you're flexing but god damn
Glad to see someone else labbing! I did a vid about some Nigel jank I found; you should check it out and see if any of it applies to other characters!
Ember also has the plat cancelling up special allowing her to chain them 3 times and cancel into an aerial up charge juggle maybe even kill
Idk what happened in the current update but is reptar supposed to be accelerating fast on the ground like hes sonic??
yesterday i got shield broken for blocking an ult
i had full shield
blocked it
and the animation went through still
afterwords my shield was around my character while i wasnt moving and i pressed the shield button it broke and i died 😭😭
Thank you for explaining how bad Raphael’s up tilt is! Like why!? 😂
need this for all the characters pls good stuff
btw squidward's slime version of the painting move gives you a much better chance of getting bold and brash.. would love to see how early a triple painting with a slime version bold an brash would kill lol could be 0% at the ledge
for the first part of the raph segment, having a side b that's pretty much exclusively for recovery is okay imo
Yaaa but it’s also like not much better than down b so it’s just kinda sad it exists. Idk if it was intended as a recovery move but it definitely will be just that I think
You're right but I feel like it should do more. Having a more generally balanced moveset makes gameplay more diverse and just more fun in general (think Rivals of Aether in comparison to ult), but also it feels rare to have a move in this game that has no combat use when you are able to cancel everything. It just sucks.
I would 100% check out Danny, Ren & Stimpy, Azula, and Patrick. As well as Angry Beavers
I’m calling it now, people are SLEEPING on April. The sheer amount of bullshittery you can get off drag down up airs that are WAY consistent and easier to pull off that any drag downs in smash. Snake recovery with the ability to recover AGAIN after attacking out of it. The 1.2 update isn’t touching her at all either.
Does Sqodward have da jank hitbox?
I don’t think there’s an issue with a character having only real one strong smash attack. I feel like that’s a good chunk of the cast in most platform fighters
Yea the "I can't believe this uncharged smash attack killed at ledge at 85%" got me. This is definitely not unusual
They gave this game fucking ROMAN CANCELS?
Rafael sounds like Melee Roy 💀💀💀
great video u could have used frame by frame to show hitboxes more clearly :)
Thanks for the feedback!!!!!!
also u forgot the empty super glitch@@fubberdish4610
Zim have issues as well.
Honestly squidward’s side b might not even be his most broken move. He can zero to death a bunch of characters off of forward air
Please share I'm taking notes
yeah I took a look back at some of squidward's moves and he can do some really stupid things. Might make a second video...
@@sylvanadvocate1858 Squidward can zero to death every character off of (rising) forward air, but the routes are character dependent
The general idea is (1-2 fairs) (Sometimes uptilt) (Sometimes another fair) (another uptilt-fair on reptar and gertie) (2-3 upairs) (upstrong) (slime cancel up b)
No dragdowns, no double jump cancels, no down b buff needed
@@Melodic_Minor143 sounds fake as fuck but I'll take your word for it and test it o7
Do ittttt @@fubberdish4610
i think they just gave grannie too many tools tbh
yeah it's kinda weird that she is actually just falcon on steroids
she can box on the ground but can't really recover.
@@Senketsujin every character has a bad recovery though. just overall game design
*Laughs in Aang*
@nailHK I don't think everyone has a "bad recovery" it's just the flow of the game that your recovery may be too linear.
I never bought the game yet… they’re still not selling physical copies
Oh and if you’re using c stick for your tilts, you need to let it reset to neutral before you can get out another tilt. For me who plays claw grip, it means sometimes if I land with an aerial or any other move using the c stick, then want to like do an uptilt instead just nothing will come out bc I’m always touching the mf c stick.
I thought this was going to be a good educational video but it was a uneducated scrub talks video. I could only get to the raph part before having to quit. Dont use raph side special? The move with hardly any end lag that is one of the reasons raph has one of the best recoveries in the game? Thats eexplosively fast and can be slime canceled into smash? Yeah I'm alright.
This game is trash just like the first. There’s just no polish or effort put into it and I’m sick of people defending these games when they are so incredibly mediocre
"No polish" lmao okay doomer, it's just not your game, and you probably suck. No need to shit on it, Leffen. You most likely haven't even played it.
"Deese games SUCK!"
- Person who hasn't played it
@@Wabbit_Guy this might blow your mind…I did play it and can have a negative opinion of it
this is obviously a troll guys, dont take the bait
i have the game and i agree. it just feels so off and effortless