Post-Game 1976 ALCS Gm. 5 Celebration with Frank Messer, WPIX-TV, 10/14/1976
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- YanksAtShea presents the Yankees' WILD clubhouse pennant celebration after the Chambliss homer in Game 5 of the '76 ALCS. The underrated Frank Messer of WPIX can't get to Chambliss but does some wonderful, tearful, and champagne-soaked interviews with Billy Martin, Mayor Beame, Grant Jackson, Elston Howard, Thurman, George Steinbrenner, and Gabe Paul. What a crazy night at Yankee Stadium. Some tape problems during Gabe Paul's interview.
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about 5 minutes in... Thurman Munson. I love that man.
Such a tragic.
So much better than the corporate on field presentations today.
Right, celebrating in the locker room is so much better than celebrating on the field in front of their loyal fans😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is like seeing ghosts of baseball past. So many legends in this video from Frank Messer, Thurman to Elston to "The Boss". Watching my youth is making me teary eyed.
This is classic New York baseball! You have all the greats...BILLY MARTIN, GEORGE STEINBRENNER (the owner),the late,great THURMAN MUNSON!
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
Thurman Munson was my baseball hero back then. I love him. I was blessed to meet Billy Martin and Lou Piniella in Seattle after a Mariners game (Sweet Lou was managing them at that time)...I can't remember, but I think the Yankees won that night. Bottom line-- both were gracious and kind with the fans who waited to meet them outside the Kingdome. (that tells you how long ago this was)
Frank Messer was a great announcer.
I remember listening to him on radio broadcasting the Yankee games.
I remember his post game show was also really good.
+Dan Livni My grandfather played golf with him several times. He was an even greater gentlemen.
that is exactly how i always thought of him. he truly gave off the impression of being a fine person.
Frank Messer was awesome!
Frank never got the credit he deserved as a Yankee announcer. There was a jerk who shall remain nameless who wrote a book all about the history of baseball broadcasting and rudely dismissed Frank's work in a single sentence calling him "dull". The fact that the guy who wrote this book was a turncoat who switched allegiance from the Yankees to the Red Sox in the 60s showed the true worthlessness of his opinion!
@@epaddon curt smith
God bless Elston Howard. The first black Yankee, and while that's memorable in and of itself he was also a very kind, classy considerate person who was loved and respected by all. When Ralph Houk left the Yanks after 1973, Elston made no secret that he would take the job if it were offered to him. The Yanks felt they needed someone with experience who was also a proven winner; that's why they tried to get Dick Williams. I think that if Ellie had lived, he would've gotten a chance to manage.
Elle should have been hired over Bill Virdon.
@@jwim3969 maybe.
Elston Howard & Dick Howser were the Yankees 1st & 3rd base coaches all the years I was growing up, and both were great men and died so young within a few years of each other. So sad. With the way the Yankees were going through managers in the 80's, no doubt Howard would have gotten his chance, and you wonder if he would have been treated as shabbily as some of the others. Maybe because he was held in such high esteem in New York as was so popular, George would have treated him better, but then again, that didn't help Howser.
@@RRaquello I don’t think it would’ve helped Ellie either.
DZanier, you mentioned Howard the first Yankee as his race, but it just shows that whites aren't the only race to be born to play baseball or be born in the sport of baseball, no matter the capacity, whites aren't the only ones in society, there's the other that God created.
I started following baseball and the Yanks passionately at age 10, in 1967. This was the first pennant I experienced after years of anticipation and disappointment. Through shrewd trades and brilliant managing by Billy Martin we finally broke through in 1976. Getting swept in the WS was tough, but better times were ahead, in 77-78. Thank you for posting, I remember this like it was yesterday. I miss Thurman, our captain.
Hey Mickey, I also became a Yankee fan in 67 because of #7, the guy who had your name. We suffered thru Celerino Sanchez and Jerry Kenney and losing the pennant race to the Orioles in 74. I love Mariano and DJ but the Yankees of the 70s will always be my favorites. May Thurman RIP!
Jeffrey Amster - and Len Boehmer, and Ross Moschitto, etc.. We had a whole litany of “ extras”!
When dug out interviews were great, on free TV and no bullshit DOT COM commercials every few seconds and a clear screen with no crap advertising all over it. God I miss those days.
You got that right. I miss Yankee Baseball in WPIX Channel 11
God I loved Frank Messer. Good times.
I miss him and the scooter and White so much!!
He was simply an excellent announcer.
Back around 1987, we spent a few days in Chicago on a vacation and decided to take in the White Sox at old Comiskey Park. Spent three great nights at the best baseball stadium I've ever been to. The fourth day, the White Sox went on the road, so we went to a Cubs game at Wrigley Field, but that night watched the Sox play the Cleveland Indians on TV in the hotel room, an we discovered that Frank Messer was the White Sox TV announcer! Didn't know it up till then. It was good hearing him again after all those years.
@@RRaquello he was an excellent announcer
Thurman Munson never needed champagne goggles while celebrating a big win!
The Yankees of today could learn a lot from this team. What heart this team showed. True emotions all around. Thanks Paul for sharing another great moment in Yankees History and baseball history!
THANKS!!! Thats the 1st time Ive seen the post game interviews. Because of all my yelling after Chambliss HR, I was forced to shut the TV off and go to bed.
Just wish Bobby Murcer was there...
I agree with that.
Yep wish Bobby would have won a WS with the Yankees
Bobby Murcer was my favorite player. What a great guy and great Yankee.
R.i.p
i enjoyed this video it makes me smile RIP Frank ,Scooter< Billy ,Edenton, Thurman ,Bill, Catfish, Yoga, you guys are missed
Taking certain factors into consideration, this may be the most jubilant moment in Yankee history. For all the confusion that the fans created by swarming the field, I think for many of those fans that was just an outpouring of happiness that they couldn't contain. It made the moment even more indelible.
What a gamer Messer was. He was as happy for the team as they were. too bad broadcasters today can't come close to a Messer, White or Rizzuto.
Agree 100 percent!!!! Michael Kay couldn't mow their lawn
Munson was nothing but class. A gamer.
Many of these players would later play on other Yankee pennant and World Series winners, but I really think one can say with absolute certainty that this moment was the unquestionable highlight of the career of the vast majority of these players. This was the happiest they would ever be. YanksAtShea has given all of us something really special with this clip. I get goosebumpos watching it. Frank Messer is fantastic.
I remember watching this on WPIX...
Enjoy it while it lasts, Billy.
hahaha poor Grant Jackson.....the story has it that George was soooo incensed at him for giving up that tying homer to Brett that he put him on the Expansion List...and sure enough, a month later he was picked up by the Mariners....lucky for Grant, the Pirates made a trade for him before the season started and two years later he was in the World Series again; this time against another of his former teams, the Baltimore Orioles
That certainly sounds like George. The odd thing is that there is clip here on youtube of ABC Eyewitness news covering the festivities in the clubhouse, and when George was interviewed by Peter Bannon, one of the first things he said was, "I'm particularly happy for Grant Jackson. He's been a great pitcher for us (he was 6-0 with 1.69 ERA in 58.2 inning pitched with the Yanks. He had only given up one homer as Yankee prior to that homer) and didn't deserve that fate" Of course, we all know that George had a public and private stance (gee where have I heard that before).
Will Drucker and DZanier, well if that is true, he sure had nothing to do the sweep in the World Series by Cincinnati, that was a group that was responsible for that loss, as they signed Reggie Jackson in the offseason, Reggie was doing commentating in this game with Keith Jackson and Howard Cossell, Reggie made the controversial comment, that caught the Yankees off guard, Reggie said that he would be the straw that stirred the drink, and that the Yankee players weren't pleased with it, felt kind of arrogant, Reggie was saying that with me I can put you over the top, the Yankees at that point, had a World Series losing streak at 3, in 1963, 64 and 76.
Who cares they lost to the Reds? Big deal. What a great moment. THANKS FOR THE UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!
TONY HEPNER You are right. This moment defined the Yankee season and made it a rousing success irrespective of the outcome of the World Series. The scoreboard in Yankee Stadium that night said it all: We're number 1.
I'm not bothered by the 76 WS loss more because of the fact that "great times were just around the corner" with the 77-78 championships. 76 ALCS-5 without the titles in 77 and 78 would have been a lot less special over the long-haul.
True. It was his first real celebration. He behaved very appropriately and not at all self-indulgently. He gave credit to others. It was very apparent that the players, coaches, everybody, were simply stunned by the suddeness of the ending. The reactions and comments almost imply that the reality of the situation hasn't sunk in yet.
Billy out of control, what a surprise.
I like how the player gave a thumbs down to Mayor Beame lol
Pure joy. 🤟
Loved Thurman...
Billy Martin, Great Manager:
1. Minnesota, 1969: Western Division Champions
2. Detroit Tigers, 1972: Eastern Division Champions
3. Texas Rangers, 1974: 2nd place, A.L. West
4. New York Yankees:
1976 American League Champions
1977 World Champions
5. Oakland A's, 1981: A.L. West Champions
Billy had notable success with 5 different teams.
I think his best performance was with the Billy Ball A's,
squeezing every last drop out of a team with limited talent.
Billy was a great manager but he had some problems that had nothing to do with talent evaluation. He played favorites at times (he didn't care for players who didn't match the same outward intensity he manifested), wore out his starters and was condescending towards management. I'm the last guy to say nice things about George Steinbrenner, but Billy knew when he took the job he was going to be dealing with an intense, at times irrational owner. Billy should've accepted George's scoldings and tirades by humoring him and laughing it off, like Joe Torre did, but Billy would exacerbate the situation by taking George on in the press. Strategically, he was better than most managers, and, as you said, he was THE BEST at getting the most out of teams with limited talent (Rangers, A's). His problem was people skills, pure and simple. He could manufacture runs and blow games open with stealing bases and hitting and running. As a manager I kind of liked him to an extent; as a person away from the park, he scared me.
Daniel Zanier 1. Billy was generally right in his disputes with The Boss.
Steinbrenner was interfering in the running of the team at field level
and acting like a nut,
and that's unacceptable.
Perhaps you've never had a horrible boss, but if you had you'd understand and admire Billy for standing up to him.
Yes, Joe Tore had a disarming personality
and was better equipped mentally
to let George's eruptions roll off his shoulder.
2. Billy was accused of wearing out the A's starting pitchers
in the early 1980s, but as that team had a poor bullpen,
and little offense to provide a late inning cushion, he didn't have much choice.
His goal was to win the division, not elongate the careers of his pitchers, and
he lead them to a revival in 1980 and a division title in 1981
with an average team at best.
My comment on Billy's prowess as a Manager was in no way
an endorsement of Billy as a person.
In hindsight we can separate the person from the great performances his teams delivered.
wheelinthesky300 I'm the last person that would defend Steinbrenner, but Billy not only resented the things that George had no business bothering him abouy, but just about anything George wanted to know. Their relationship would've been contentious no matter what, but Billy should've been more amenable to George's wanting to know certain things. And Billy was no different in with Calvin Griffith in Minnesota, Jim Campbell in Detroit and Bob Srort aand Brad Corbett in Texas. In 1980, Oakland starters completed 94 games out of a possible 162, but Oakland was out of the race. KC had a double digit lead of 10 games on the 23rd of June that went as high as 20.5 and wound up at 14. There was never a race. Of course, you could make the argument that that didn't mean winning was any less important, but it would've been a good chance to look at some other pitchers and lighten the starters' loads. Finley didn't expect them to contend right away anyway. But, as you said, Billy never looked ahead. I appreciate your opinion and agree with many of the things you said.
Daniel Zanier
I'm not Billy's biggest fan but I doubt adopting a "Torre" persona would have done him one whit of good with Stein in that era. GMS was 45 when Billy went to work for him, 65 when Torre went to work for him; still overbearing but perhaps a few years wiser and maybe chastened just a bit by his 3-year suspension in the early 1990s. Certainly guys like Bob Lemon and Dick Howser had personalities that were more "Torre" than Torre and Steinbrenner ran them off FAST.
Ronald Bittner
Howser was a bit more intense and independent than a lot of people ever gave him credit for. He and George had a few differences of opinion in 1980, but since the Yanks won 103 games and the division, things never came to a head. I remeber reading in Reggie Jackson's first book that Dick commented to Reggie about George "I don't know what more he wants us to do". Ah, but when George wanted to fire third base coach Mike Ferraro after the ALCS loss, that's when Dick showed his strength and character and stood up for his coach, consequently sealing his own fate. I'm glad Dick finally won one in 1985 with KC. He deserved it.
You've covered all the bases.Larry Gura was a solid pitcher, but billy had no use for him. He wasn't in favor of the Holtzman trade, so Holtzman felt the repercussions. The fact that Holtzman tapered off greatly from 75-76 didn't help, but Holtzman was still solid. Another point about Holtzman: once he came to the Yanks he almost instantly signed a 5-year deal with a NO TRADE CLAUSE (that was dumb of George). I recall Martin's answer about not using Kenny was that the Reds were a high-fastball
Utterly remarkable. How do you have this? Did you tape this off channel 11?
I believe that was Ray Negron with the champagne on Munson.
I knew Frank Messer well, and this is the first time I've ever seen Frank with a mustache, it looks weird on Frank Rest In Peace Frank, see you one day Frank.
RIP Grant Jackson.
One of the few times George wasn't full of himself in front of a camera.
Alexander in Game 4 and he would've had Catfish ready for Game 5 on normal rest and Figueroa ready to start Game 1 of the series on normal rest. As it turned out, Hunter pitched the second game of the WS on 3-days rest and lost in the botton of the 9th. Hunter's arm was sore and using him to start the 4th game of the ALCS when he had either Holtzman or Alexander was not smart. This is, as you said, precious stuff.
Weird how the Baltimore Orioles, Oakland A's, New York Mets and Boston Red Sox [though they lost Game 7 the year before in 1975] had much better October success in the 1970's against the Cincinnati Reds than the New York Yankees did. Another fact: The last World Series Game the Cincinnati Reds lost was in 1975.
Billy Martin hated Ken Holtzman. I've heard Holtzman interviewed and he said as much and also said he didn't know why. Maybe something left over from th playoff series when Oakland beat Martin's Tigers in 1972. I've also read that when he first came to the Yankees, Martin held Roy White in very low regard, but that White was so solid he eventually won him over.
Was that Dave Berkowitz in the background?
first time for me too.
Good team but they ran into a virtual buzz saw in the Reds.
...old Abe Beame...Alive again!!!
New York's shortest mayor. Poor Abe, he finally got to be mayor and everything went to hell as soon as he got into office.
Sandy Alomar, Sr. giving Mayor Beame (who would lose next year) a champagne bath! Just precious stuff though Billy was a bit too cocky and grossly underestimated what they were going to be up against in Cincinnati (his refusal to use Ken Holtzman in the WS probably cost the Yankees their one chance to win a game).
I agree up to a point, but the Yanks of today, that is of this year, 2013, wouldn't have benefitted from all the heart in the world. Their problems were injuries and a lack of talent. They just weren't good enough to win. Having said that, this is my favortite Yankees' moment of all time.
If you want to know what it was like to live in the New York City area as a kid in 1976, I think you might want to watch this short film called "Tough Kids." A few minutes in is a tribute to WPIX, Sunday Morning, Abbott & Costello and the New York Yankees.
ruclips.net/video/wR_ZUgY4k0Q/видео.html
Was Billy also proud of George?
Chambliss hits the game winner and they talk to everyone BUT him. LOL
Can we see comments?
Not a Yankee fan but how can a real, hard core baseball fan not appreciate the 76 - 78 teams. They weren't glamorous, they were gritty and played hard. When they got Reggie things changed a bit, but when Munson passed thats when George went crazy with the signings. If Munson was still in that locker room...who knows. They had talent, but lacked a intensity. You could see it. George saw it, owners today see it.
When a player gets paid BIG MONEY what does he do then? When you have a team like that you need guys in the locker room to hold their ass accountable. I've seen it time after time. Espescially now. They forget about all the little things and intensity they played with. That's why it takes a special person to get paid and keep their principals that got them paid.
Anyway. The Yakns were BACK! And All of MLB were on notice.
billy, what about cinncinnati? ...the only thing that could help them is if we don't show up. ...
he believed in his team. The Big Red Machine though... they were like a steamroller, baby.
What was Humphrey Bogart doing in a waiter outfit behind Munson? And who the hell was the guy who poured the champagne on Munson's head?
It was Martin's biggest failing as a manger to let personal grudges guide his thinking. That was why the Yankees got rid of Larry Gura for nothing and why he wouldn't use Holtzman the whole postseason and when he had no choice but to go with someone other than Hunter-Ellis-Figueroa in Game 1, he picks the guy with no WS experience over the guy who had thrived in WS play before. The Yankees I think were too spent from the ALCS to win the WS, but Martin's decisions guaranteed the sweep IMO.
God bless George Steinbrenner!
hitting team. That's too much of a generalization, even though Doyle was more of a low ball, change-up pitcher. In the end, the trade with the Orioles paid short-term dividends, cause Jackson was GREAT & Alexander was solid. The irony is that one of the key players that went to Baltimore, Rudy May, also didn't have a good relationship with Billy & that was Billy's fault. Rudy had a great curve & was an ideal Yankee Stadium pitcher. You could analyze Billy for years & never understand him.
Yeah, Billy was good at being cocky. He later said, "We'll get that Red Machine piece by piece, axle by axle". That Reds team was the best single team of the 1970s. Yanks had no chance. I'm not sute not starting Holtzman cost the Yanks a shot at a win. The mistake Billy made was brnging back Hunter on three-days rest to pitch Game 4 of the LCS, thus he was forced to use Figueroa in Game 5. Since the Yanks had a 2-1 lead in games in this series, he should've used either Holtzman or Doyle
The biggest problem with this 1976 NY Yankees Team like the 1988 to 1992 Oakland A's was they were way too arrogant and cocky. They didn't take the 1976 and 1990 Cincinnati Reds as much a serious dangerous worthy NL opponent as the 1970 Baltimore Orioles, 1972 Oakland A's and 1973 New York Mets did.
@@BBQFanNo1 that’s ridiculous,
The Reds of that time are still the best team I've ever seen. And I was rooting against them. Not a Yankee fan, but I always rooted for the American League team.
Yeah, Billy Martin the Big Red Machine really wished you didn't show up...they destroyed you.
The Reds also destroyed the Phillies in 1976, and the Phillies were better than the Yankees.
I’m
Most of these guys are dead. Damn life is crazy like that, time is nobodys friend.
All this just to get swept by the reds 😂