New York YANKEES at Detroit TIGERS 5/24/58 Original WPIX Broadcast (Kinescope)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @davidhamburg7868
    @davidhamburg7868 3 года назад +77

    Nice to hear announcers who didn't graduate from today's broadcaster factory.

    • @deantheodosiou2886
      @deantheodosiou2886 Год назад +7

      You are so right. Announcers back then had character. They represented how ordinary people saw the game. Today, they think they impress by analyzing a routine groundball.

    • @williamhalter2032
      @williamhalter2032 11 месяцев назад +3

      Ernie was the best ever!

    • @rogerwilliams5366
      @rogerwilliams5366 6 месяцев назад

      💯💯💯

    • @hondo3313
      @hondo3313 6 месяцев назад

      Nice to not hear a female voice on a MLB game played by Men

  • @joetreml3671
    @joetreml3671 3 года назад +77

    What a great era of baseball. Silence in the broadcast booth was truly golden. Mel Allen, Kaline, Berra, all tremendous. just nothing like Briggs or Tiger Stadium, the magical corner of Michigan and Trumbull

    • @44032
      @44032 2 года назад +5

      Baseball was still the undisputed king of American sport at this time. The NFL's sudden death OT championship game between the Colts and the Giants would be played 7 months later and begin to change things.

    • @RyansColoradoRailProductions
      @RyansColoradoRailProductions 2 года назад +4

      I’ve never been to Detroit except to the airport, and I can’t imagine what it would have been like to go to Briggs/Tiger Stadium during its heyday.

    • @Woody10719
      @Woody10719 Год назад +1

      Hopefully they play ball there again soon.

    • @rascal211
      @rascal211 5 месяцев назад

      Yep, it's about the game not the announcers constant rambling.

    • @dbmusicproductions9181
      @dbmusicproductions9181 5 месяцев назад

      It was a beautiful thing. Most of us who got to experience Tiger Stadium talk about how beautifully green the grass was as the field was revealed through the dark entry of the inner works of the stadium. That inside are smelled of freshly cooked brats and hot dogs and further featured tables that stocked with souvenirs. Nothing fancy. Everything charming.

  • @kevinmcardle4087
    @kevinmcardle4087 3 года назад +93

    Allen and Rizzuto were great. This is refreshing to watch; today's announcers can't seem to shut up

    • @written12
      @written12 3 года назад +6

      In later years, though, Phil(G-d rest his soul) was too given to talking about neighbors and family and his barber.
      But, yeah, Phil knew the game and was insightful, and humble.

    • @robertkelly6282
      @robertkelly6282 3 года назад +6

      Agree I can’t stand Michael Kay I mute when he’s on

    • @citizenbeeswax7985
      @citizenbeeswax7985 3 года назад +6

      @@robertkelly6282 michael Kay was so much more likeable when he was with john sterling. Now he just irritates me. I love david cone and paul o'Neil though.

    • @jaycompany4886
      @jaycompany4886 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, they talk about analytics, pitch count, the shift on the infield etc etc etc, i mute them. They can't touch old school announcers, never, ever

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 3 года назад +6

      @@written12
      I enjoyed Phil, Bill White & Frank Messer.

  • @nala3038
    @nala3038 2 года назад +57

    Back in the good ole days when a day at the baseball game was so much fun and you didn’t see people staring at their phones like mindless zombies.

    • @jackel99
      @jackel99 8 месяцев назад +2

      YES!! Fans paid close attention to the game. Maybe, it was the fact teams had bonofide ALLSTARS in those days! Plus, no drugs!!!

    • @jeffreykoran4820
      @jeffreykoran4820 7 месяцев назад

      THATS A GREAT REMARK ABOUT PEOPLE STARING AT THEIR PHONES 📱 LIKE MINDLESS ZOMBIES 🧟‍♀️...THEIR ALL ADDICTED TO THEIR FFNNNGG PHONES 📱

    • @wallacerose7499
      @wallacerose7499 5 месяцев назад +1

      And to loud Music if you want to call it that, all during the game !

    • @Mystic0157
      @Mystic0157 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jackel99 Ha. Amphetamines /Bennies (Uppers) and barbiturates/reds (downers) were rampant. AND they used to light up in the locker room, sometimes even in the dugout.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Mystic0157
      Cut the crap, son.

  • @Dahaas2003
    @Dahaas2003 3 года назад +23

    This is a TREASURE. As many on this comment board have noted, sometimes less talk is MORE. Modern day baseball has lost me due to the encroachment of "entertainment" on the game itself. The powers that be seem to feel it is necessary today, to capture the young crowd. I just remember being 11 years old and glued to every moment of the game back in 1975. I did not need anything but the ebb and flow of the game. To keep score, to see where my heroes were positioning themselves, their postures, facial expressions, how they fielded during warm ups, all that stuff. No T-shirt guns, walk up songs, or any of that dumbing down nonsense so prevalent today. But I digress. THIS VIDEO...takes me back. It's Gold, Jerry, Gold!

    • @jamesrivera4947
      @jamesrivera4947 2 года назад +2

      Well, you may "digress," but you're completely on point. Technology and the rise of athleticism has also made it easier for the public to accept pro sports in general as entertainment and players, as a corollary, as ENTERTAINERS. MLB is no longer an extension of geographic loyalties but largely a Vanity Fair website ⚾

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 Год назад +13

    "Umpires like to keep the game moving. It makes for a better game."
    - Right on, Scooter! 👍

  • @jeffpapas4602
    @jeffpapas4602 3 года назад +59

    Nowadays Bertoia would have slugged Maglie for that high tag, the benches would empty, Joe Buck would call Maglie a disgrace to the game, and we'd have to read something about exit velocity and Maglie's WAR. Give me the old school.

    • @leftykoufax7084
      @leftykoufax7084 3 года назад +4

      Amen

    • @fredmar6436
      @fredmar6436 2 года назад +2

      @@leftykoufax7084 #32 My favorite pitcher of all time!!

    • @jaycompany4886
      @jaycompany4886 Год назад +1

      💯 % correctomundo

    • @kellyjohnson9394
      @kellyjohnson9394 Год назад +3

      Nerds have taken over baseball and sports in general, when all ANY team needs are the best players to win. They’ve made sports into rocket science because they couldn’t make ANY team they tried out for. Barkley was 💯% correct ! They couldn’t get the girls in high school either!😂

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад +1

      Joe Buck is extremely anti New York in all sports.

  • @msquaretheoriginal
    @msquaretheoriginal 3 года назад +36

    Note the sparse commentary. It’s like they don’t want to distract you from watching the game. Not the conversation you’d hear later.

    • @VandelayIndustries61
      @VandelayIndustries61 3 года назад +4

      I know right? Watch a Yankee telecast today and you've got "Talk Show Michael" Kay asking Paul O'Neill what restaurant he ate at last night or telling David Cone a story about when Cone pitched for the Mets in 1989. The game barely exists to them.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 2 месяца назад

      No - It's because they didn't have access to all the data and information that today's broadcasters have. The game is so much more advanced and interesting now, provided you have a brain and aren't afraid to use it.

  • @jayvee1947
    @jayvee1947 3 года назад +42

    Listening to Mel Allen brings back great memories of my childhood growing up in NYC.

    • @robstack3712
      @robstack3712 3 года назад +8

      Also this Week in Baseball

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад

      Alexander Hamilton does not hold Weehawken in high regard.

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад

      Melvin Allen Israel was his full name .

    • @bobbyhoffman5809
      @bobbyhoffman5809 Год назад

      Me too. Loved Mel and Red and the Scooter

  • @rickstanford8439
    @rickstanford8439 3 года назад +47

    Love that Mel Allen didn’t have to constantly be talking - He let the action speak for itself and just nimbly filled in gaps with color if/when appropriate... Unlike modern TV broadcasters that drone on incessantly, and make the presentation more about their commentary than the game itself - for example like Joe Buck. I am not a Yankee fan but this old-school broadcast is very refreshing and enjoyable!!! Thanks for posting this video!

    • @beatlejim64
      @beatlejim64 3 года назад +7

      Today...they don't shut up!

    • @vicepresidentmikepence889
      @vicepresidentmikepence889 3 года назад +2

      While we all agree Joe Buck and Tim McCarver's nonstop blather is annoying. This type of announcing ( "Batter steps to the plate, adjusts his helmet, adjusts his gloves" announcing is even worse

    • @Rayburn58
      @Rayburn58 Год назад

      john smoltz is the worst, yet we have to listen to him blow out his ass non-stop every World Series and LCS.

    • @margaretjiantonio939
      @margaretjiantonio939 Год назад +1

      Mel Allen was a pro. He & Red Bsarber were two of the best.

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад

      Later in his career, Allen talked incessantly. Supposedly this factored into hks firing after the 1964 season.

  • @citizenbeeswax7985
    @citizenbeeswax7985 3 года назад +18

    It's crazy, I'm so blessed to have grown up with phil rizzuto doing the broadcasting for the Yankees games. He was so fun to listen to. Not to mention watching mel Allen every week doing "this week in baseball" "HOW ABOUT THAT"

  • @rmartin7558
    @rmartin7558 2 года назад +12

    7:45 Those auxiliary scoreboards would remain virtually unchanged until they closed the park in '99.

  • @stupaul3233
    @stupaul3233 3 года назад +6

    I was in my Mom’s womb as she was waiting for my arrival 5 months later! I grew up listening to the Scooter, Frank Messer, Jerry Coleman and then Bill White! My Dad grew up in The Bronx listening to Mel Allen and he moved from there to Brooklyn the previous September! I, myself, am a 62 year old sportscaster broadcasting for a few venues including the Baseball team here in San Antonio! Even at my age, I hope to get to the majors! Love these old broadcasts! Keep them coming!

  • @GK-ev5rd
    @GK-ev5rd 3 года назад +25

    WOW! When the Yankees came to town, it was magical here in Detroit. Frank Lary had a great career mark against the Yankees and was later called "The Yankee Killer.". I can only say that this takes me back to my youth when you could get into the park for 50 cents and enjoy the game at what seemed like "heaven" to me. Seeing a young Al Kaline, Harvey Kueen, MIckey Mantle. Noticed that the PA announcer Joe Gentile would announce the hitters the first time up, but afterward, that did not happen. Great memories when baseball was a game, not a business and for all who love baseball, this really is a relic to see!

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад

      What is generally forgotten is that Lary was often a .500 pitcher against the rest of the league. If you take away his two twenty - win seasons (1956 and 1961), he had a losing record for his career.

    • @rek550
      @rek550 3 месяца назад

      In the early 60s when I was old enough to take to a Tigers game, general admission was $1.50. But we usually sat in the upper deck center field bleachers for $1.00.

  • @patearly9492
    @patearly9492 3 года назад +15

    Thank you so much for sharing this Major League classic! God bless everyone

  • @larrysmith1201
    @larrysmith1201 3 года назад +39

    And Mel Allen did this without having 3 people in the booth talking nonstop

    • @clarky23
      @clarky23 3 года назад +3

      all I heard was "Ball 1" and i was like.....DAMN!! MEL ALLEN!!!

    • @cjones3710
      @cjones3710 3 года назад +5

      Sad how over produced its become.

    • @alvinwagner6745
      @alvinwagner6745 3 года назад +6

      Love the fact that there’s so much silence so you can hear the background crowd ambiance.

    • @billhamilton3157
      @billhamilton3157 3 года назад +1

      Phil Rizzuto as well

  • @fliegeroh
    @fliegeroh 3 года назад +17

    Reno Bertoia was born in Italy. After his retirement as a player, Bertoia received his full high school teaching credentials and returned to Windsor, ON where he worked as a teacher for 30 years with the Windsor Catholic School Board.

    • @JohnTheBear1961
      @JohnTheBear1961 3 года назад +3

      I graduated from Windsor's Faculty of Education in 1986 with Reno's daughter Ruth. That summer Reno played in a Tigers Old-Timers game.

    • @gregorypalmer5403
      @gregorypalmer5403 2 года назад +3

      Mr. Bertoia used to stop in Nemo's, on Michigan Avenue right by the old ballpark, 15-20 years ago, and they're still going strong and have a park&shuttle on game days to the new park, also the Red Wings and probably the Lions and Pistons too and I think he took that over to the Tiger game , don't recall exactly. Anyhow he was a very nice gentleman. He was very low-key, and gracious and polite to everyone.

  • @forwardobserver6441
    @forwardobserver6441 3 года назад +14

    I had the great pleasure of knowing mr frank bolling. I loved talking baseball with him and hearing all of his stories. Mr Bolling was a great man, a great friend. I loved him dearly. They don’t make em like that anymore. Rest In Peace mr frank!

  • @stevea6816
    @stevea6816 2 года назад +7

    wow--what a classic era this game is from. thanks for posting. priceless

  • @glen7695
    @glen7695 3 года назад +21

    Very cool! Sal Maglie, the 'barber', on the mound. He spent five years in the minors with Buffalo, then served in WW II before breaking into the majors when he was 28.
    Thanks for the post, I never saw him pitch.

    • @bowlersinger
      @bowlersinger Год назад +1

      Barber was the losing pitcher in Don Larsen's perfect game.

    • @df5295
      @df5295 Год назад +1

      He pitched for the Giants, Dodgers, and Yankees.

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад +1

      Indians also.

  • @bobmoslow4636
    @bobmoslow4636 3 года назад +6

    "Yogi's a lens louse," says former teammate & pal, Phil 'Scooter' Rizzuto. Glorious history.

  • @michaelmantle6043
    @michaelmantle6043 3 года назад +17

    Having grown up in the '50s in New York, it's so nostalgic seeing this and hearing the voices and the names of the players called by Mel and Phil.
    Thanks for posting this.

  • @daniellack3559
    @daniellack3559 3 года назад +14

    Remarkable to see a run of the mill regulation ballgame preserved on kinescope from the 1950s...simply amazing...thanks for posting... I was 9 years old at the time in NY and just getting heavily into baseball...am sure I must have seen this game broadcast live...

    • @44032
      @44032 2 года назад +3

      While I love having these partial game clips of old sporting events, I always wonder what happened to the rest of the broadcast? Why would only this 31-minute segment have survived?

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад +1

      The year 1958 was the first year that the Yankees had WPIX to themselves with the Giants having moved to San Francisco..

  • @davidhamburg7868
    @davidhamburg7868 3 года назад +12

    Love this. Much appreciated.

  • @Johnnyboy792
    @Johnnyboy792 3 года назад +8

    Didn't know they had the camera view from behind the pitcher as far back as 58'... AWESOME !!!

    • @johntaormina1084
      @johntaormina1084 7 месяцев назад

      I think they started the center field camera that year

  • @msquaretheoriginal
    @msquaretheoriginal 3 года назад +20

    Ray Boone is Bob Boone’s father. And Aaron and Bret Boone’s grandfather. That’s right, three generations of Major Leaguers. And also descendants of Daniel Boone.

  • @jeremycrandall2899
    @jeremycrandall2899 3 года назад +6

    Aw, man...I wanted to see what Mickey did! Lol. Also, I wanted to see a replay of that ball that was foul by inches down the left field line, but that wasn’t possible yet in 1958.
    Awesome footage. Thanks for posting it.👍

  • @5papa
    @5papa 3 года назад +4

    Mel Allen was simply the best. I grew up listening to him but being from Illinois I only got to hear him during World Series games. He made it thoroughly enjoyable.

  • @steveroe6771
    @steveroe6771 3 года назад +18

    Nothing like watching baseball in b/w. Great players at a good time in baseball. No one getting hundred million dollar contracts, and you could actually afford to take a family to a game at reasonabe ticket and food prices.

    • @frederickrapp5396
      @frederickrapp5396 3 года назад +4

      None of the players or announcers in this game were multimillionaires, or even millionaires. Today, virtually all of them are. And the product they produce isn’t any better than it was in 1958.

  • @robstack3712
    @robstack3712 3 года назад +9

    Who ever is responsible for capturing games like this & making them available, THANK YOU, it’s Pure Gold & it’s historic, if it was Yankee home game, we could try to find Marlyn Monroe

    • @robstack3712
      @robstack3712 3 года назад +1

      & I misspoke, 58 was Mantle era, not Joe D, it’s incredible u can link Ruth -Gehrig-Joe D- Mantle- Berra,-Murcer-Mattingly

  • @roncaruso931
    @roncaruso931 Год назад +6

    Thanks for uploading this! Back then no replays, no fancy stadiums, no steroids, fans who looked normal, no big hulking ball players, no multi million dollar cry baby players.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 2 месяца назад

      Yeah - Replays suck. I hate understanding exactly what happened and ensuring the umpires' calls are correct. Such a travesty.

  • @jimmypeters
    @jimmypeters 3 года назад +6

    Great footage of Sal "The Barber" Maglie - plus Billy Martin as a Tiger - and at 16:37 Phil Rizzuto mentions that Yogi Berra is being held on first by Tiger First Baseman Ray Boone; who is the grandfather of current Yankee manager Aaron Boone.

  • @Strakaflacka
    @Strakaflacka 3 года назад +9

    Charlie Maxwell is one of the friendliest guys ever. I am best friends with his grandson and I've had the opportunity to hangout at his lake house and talk with him and listen to his stories.

    • @barryputterman2412
      @barryputterman2412 Год назад

      Charlie already had two hits by the end of the segment shown. I remember his baseball card saying that he was famous for always hitting well on Sundays. And, as this is an afternoon game and the lst of a three game series, it was probably being played on Sunday.

    • @kevinmadden1645
      @kevinmadden1645 Год назад

      Maxwell at one time lived in Paw Paw Michigan. His best year was 1956 when he made the all- star team..He was nicknamed "Always On Sunday" because of his knack of hitting homers on Sunday against the Yankees. In 1956, the Tigers had two twenty- game winners and five .300 hitters but still finished fifth in an eigbt- team league.

    • @michaelsurant3858
      @michaelsurant3858 Год назад +2

      Charlie Maxwell at 96 is the oldest living former Detroit Tiger as of 2023

  • @paulpitt52
    @paulpitt52 3 года назад +9

    22:32 Kuenn hits a laser home run, and is already nearing second base when the ball bounces off the upper deck facade. These days the players wouldn’t even be at first base, because they’d be admiring their shot.

  • @xerirenee3352
    @xerirenee3352 Год назад +2

    The camera coverage was amazing for 1958. A local television broadcast that had many of the same angles that we associated with the major networks makes this a sight for the seamheads to behold.

  • @Sassyjass2012
    @Sassyjass2012 2 года назад +3

    This brings back memories of being a kid and watching the Yankees with my dad, when Mel Allen was still in the booth.

  • @josepalm5515
    @josepalm5515 3 года назад +23

    When baseball was great

    • @edreed5571
      @edreed5571 3 года назад +1

      Before liberals

    • @kingcassius2586
      @kingcassius2586 3 года назад +5

      @@edreed5571 Liberals.. oh, you mean those who pushed for MLB(and everyone else for that matter) to integrate?

    • @rek550
      @rek550 3 месяца назад

      "I'd play for nothing."

  • @anthonyblengino4927
    @anthonyblengino4927 3 года назад +12

    Sal Maglie’s next to last of six starts in a Yankee uniform. Age 41, in his last MLB season.

  • @sonnycorleone2602
    @sonnycorleone2602 3 года назад +5

    WOW! Much Thanks for this Gem. I am a Yankees fan and a 1970's kid and did not watch them till 1974 really . This was before my time but fabulous. At 2:37 Al Kaline was a Tiger player 1953 to 1974.
    1958 was the Yankees beating the Milwaukee Braves in World Series getting back at their loss to them in 1957. At 9:11 I DO remember they swapped announcers radio to TV and back again when I was a child. Also games were not all televised like the yankee games would be 3 games a week or so on TV - the rest on radio. No cable tv back then of course. Thanks again for the priceless upload.

    • @44032
      @44032 2 года назад +1

      With Phil talking about the camera angle where you could see the catcher, pitcher, second basemen and mantle I wondered if Mel and Phil were doing the commentary from New York to save money and the camera shots were their only means of viewing the game. It jsut ahd the feel of one of the Covid broadcasts from the last two seasons.

    • @michaeldemenchuk6988
      @michaeldemenchuk6988 Год назад

      @@44032 They didn't have the technology to do that kind of a remote broadcast back then. There just weren't that many camera angles really until the '70s. Keep in mind the reason why only one announcer is talking at a time is because the other guy's in the next broadcast booth over, on the radio. Where's Red Barber tho?

  • @normhall1622
    @normhall1622 Год назад +12

    What a different era from today. I was 16 when this game was played and I remember these players. It's great stepping back in time. Maybe because I was young, but the game seemed so much better then. Pitchers went 9 innings or more if necessary, no DH, no interleague play. I love it.

    • @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229
      @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229  Год назад +3

      your 100% correct Norm I feel the same as you that’s why we are here 😎👍⚾️ I can’t watch todays game alot has changed in 20 years and it’s not good what a heartbreaker 😫⚾️ thanks for your comments

    • @michaelmeyers3664
      @michaelmeyers3664 Год назад

      ​@@pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229 Hello phobia films!! I am a cardinals fan and I love hearing Harry Cary and Jack Buck!! Do you know how I can get radio broadcast of the season's of the 61,62 and 63. Thank You so much take care God Bless!

    • @michaelstearnesstearnes1498
      @michaelstearnesstearnes1498 Год назад

      1958: When God was in heaven, Eisenhower was in the Whitehouse and Mickey Mantle was in centerfield.

    • @toddglasenapp6572
      @toddglasenapp6572 Год назад

      This season inter league play accounted for 25 percent of the schedule. Why not just do away with tradition totally and play each team an equal number of games? Just ruin the novelty of AL vs NL in the World Series.

    • @rek550
      @rek550 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelstearnesstearnes1498 ...and Al Kaline in right.

  • @brenthooton3412
    @brenthooton3412 3 года назад +7

    28:35 "Remember fans, old-timers day coming up at Yankee Stadium when Ted Williams and the Red Sox will be visiting. Now, coming up to bat: Mickey Mantle."
    Boy, did it ever seem odd to hear a reference to "old-timers" at the same time as two all-time greats when they were still in their career.

  • @alonenjersey
    @alonenjersey 3 года назад +11

    Visited tiger stadium as past of as baseball tour back in '96. Angels beat the Tigers 9-6. Later that night at a tour party I found out that cecil Fielder had been traded to my beloved Yankees. I still say it's a crying shame the powers that be couldn't save this ballpark.

    • @rek550
      @rek550 3 месяца назад

      In my opinion, it was a crime.

  • @danadeerwester8294
    @danadeerwester8294 3 года назад +13

    THIS WAS MORE FUN TO WATCH!!THAN TODAY!!

  • @josephmaloney3140
    @josephmaloney3140 3 года назад +5

    The only think I can say is Wow! Thank you so much for this piece of history.

  • @cetme1156ify
    @cetme1156ify 3 года назад +5

    Priceless!

  • @RichardTetta
    @RichardTetta 3 года назад +3

    Too young to remember Mel Allen's broadcasting days, but boy the sound of Phil Rizzuto's voice takes me right back to lazy summer afternoons of childhood, glued to the TV watching the Yanks on PIX

    • @ralphowen3367
      @ralphowen3367 Год назад

      On Game of the week, Pee Wee Reese as announcers. Heard Dizzy sing The Wabash Cannonball and -call plays as :"a blue darter" ( a solid hit), a "dying quail" (blooper), and a "frozen rope" (line drive)

  • @richardmangone931
    @richardmangone931 3 года назад +3

    Great to see brings me back to my youth thank you for posting

  • @jamesrivera4947
    @jamesrivera4947 3 года назад +4

    A year before I was born. Long gap between pitches. Great history ⚾

    • @kenlucas7025
      @kenlucas7025 3 года назад +2

      Tell me about it- July 25, 1959

  • @kenneth7826
    @kenneth7826 3 года назад +7

    The announcer was the legendary Mel allen..baseball and ballentine.....such memories.....

  • @deepcosmiclove
    @deepcosmiclove 2 месяца назад +1

    "I hit 'em where they ain't" said Wee Willie Keeler. "It ain't how you hit 'em it's where you hit 'em" says Phil Rizzuto.

  • @michaelcrockette3881
    @michaelcrockette3881 3 года назад +5

    when Siebern fouled ball off his foot thought Phil was gonna say Holy Cow! did that hurt. guess he wasn’t doing that yet.

  • @gregglantos2360
    @gregglantos2360 3 года назад +8

    Holy cow, how about that!

  • @owenburnett2718
    @owenburnett2718 3 года назад +4

    Absolutely wonderful. Thank you for posting this.

  • @chiefpontiac1800
    @chiefpontiac1800 3 года назад +2

    I was born exactly 3 years to the day after this game was played. GO Get'em Tigers!

  • @petervandenbroeck4183
    @petervandenbroeck4183 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mel Allen and the Scooter. Awesome.

  • @jeffsmith2022
    @jeffsmith2022 3 года назад +5

    Wish I had all my baseball cards from 58'...

  • @humanbeing2420
    @humanbeing2420 2 месяца назад +1

    This is an amazing piece of history, and we're really fortunate to have it. But claiming that this presentation is somehow better than modern broadcasts is absurd. Today's high def broadcasts capture the action as well as being there in person. And the quality of the commentary across MLB is extremely high. Yes, they talk more today than they did then - because there's so much more to say today. There's a ton of information available today that was unknown then, and the commentary helps viewers understand the game at a much greater depth than was possible 70 years ago. That is progress.

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop 3 года назад +6

    HAHAHA! Scooter is doing more talking off mic than when he's calling the game!

    • @robstack3712
      @robstack3712 3 года назад

      How was Scooter not playing at this time, was he retired. By then?

    • @berniegunther9791
      @berniegunther9791 2 года назад +4

      The Scooter was rather unceremoniously released by Yankees GM George Weiss (coldhearted and tightfisted) on August 25th 1956. Luckily for all us fans of The Scooter, then Yankees TV/Radio-sponsor "Ballantine Beers" insisted that the Yankees (and George Weiss) hire Rizzuto as an announcer for the 1957 season. And the rest is history...HOLY COW!! RIP dear and beloved Scooter!

  • @billhallsongs
    @billhallsongs 3 года назад +3

    Fabulous! Thanks so much for posting this gem!!!

  • @frederickrapp5396
    @frederickrapp5396 3 года назад +7

    It was interesting to see Billy Martin in a Tigers uniform playing against his beloved Yankees one year after the Copa Cabana incident. It was sad that Billy Martin and Casey Stengel became estranged after this. I still feel sad about it.

    • @stevea6816
      @stevea6816 2 года назад +3

      Martin was never the same player after getting traded. Went to KC, Tigers, Reds, and I think finally Twins, whom he ended up coaching and managing for 1 year. Fired after taking them from mediocrity to winning division in 69

    • @thomaswolf723
      @thomaswolf723 Год назад +2

      Ironically, Martin was at the Copa Cabana but had no involvement in the fracas. I believe Hank Bauer had to go to court about it. Still, the incident got so much negative publicity in the tabloids that it gave Yankee G. M. George Weiss the pretext to deal him to the Kansas City Athletics. Weiss considered Martin a bad influence on Mantle.

  • @chrisozzy56
    @chrisozzy56 Год назад +2

    I’ve witnessed games at well over 25 stadiums , and Tiger Stadium was always my favorite , with Fenway Park a close second . Back in the ‘60’s , tickets were cheap and easy to get as the crowds were relatively small . Great times and saw so many great players .

  • @daniellack3559
    @daniellack3559 3 года назад +7

    Am hoping you have other 50s baseball games on kinescope ready to roll out over time... It wasly a glorious time for baseball and tv was still in its infancy, technology was relative primitive, and I suspect very few survive...will look forward to following you from now on....

    • @frederickrapp5396
      @frederickrapp5396 3 года назад +5

      No instant replay, no talk of pitch counts or a 95 mph fastball. No batters stepping out of the box to fiddle around. No 3-4 hour games. Just baseball as it was meant to be played.

    • @patthecatman
      @patthecatman 3 года назад +3

      @@frederickrapp5396 you said it! i don't watch anymore (since the nineties). and i go back to the mid-forties.

    • @fredmar6436
      @fredmar6436 2 года назад +1

      @@frederickrapp5396 Remember Colavito when he would make the sign of the cross on home plate and then point the bat at the pitcher??

  • @jfchonors8873
    @jfchonors8873 5 месяцев назад +1

    Surprised to see Maglie working out of a windup with runners on 2nd and 3rd

  • @thomasjefferson6
    @thomasjefferson6 Год назад +1

    You are to be commended for saving these games and then digitalizing them for future generations! This is more than can be said for the big TV networks of the time.

    • @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229
      @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229  Год назад

      much appreciated Mr President, just what I was hoping to accomplish on my RUclips Channel 😎👌 thanks for commenting so

  • @deepcosmiclove
    @deepcosmiclove 3 года назад +3

    What a pleasure listening to Mel Allen. Back in those days he was alone in the booth and on double-header days would drink quite a few Ballentine beers (the sponsor). Nobody cared; the beer cup was right beside him. He would become slightly disheveled and slur his words a bit but always smiling he was having just as much fun as anyone else; including my father who would be in the same state as Mel. America moved at a much slower pace.

    • @patthecatman
      @patthecatman 3 года назад +1

      and he would hand sailors & soldiers a drink, reaching up into the grandstand from the b'cast booth. what a time!!

    • @davanmani556
      @davanmani556 3 года назад

      Amphetamines was his undoing.

    • @wk1652
      @wk1652 Год назад

      Total BS. Mel Allen never drank during a broadcast. This is a malicious rumor, confirmed nowhere by any journalist. There are two exhaustive biographies of Allen, and neither mentions any such drinking in the booth. You might consider not slandering dead people when you have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @wk1652
      @wk1652 Год назад

      @@davanmani556 Allen was a client of Dr. Max Jacobson, like many of the leading celebrities of the day, including President Kennedy while he was in the White House. Jacobson told his clients that he was giving them vitamin injections but laced ths shots with amphetamines and corticosteroids.

  • @lesyankee6129
    @lesyankee6129 Год назад +1

    Wow, this was a treat! I miss hearing Phil Rizzuto calling play by play. And so many legends in this game! Mantle, Berra, Kaline, Stengel, Tony Kubek, Sal Maglie, Billy Martin, Harvey Kuenn (later managed the Brewers), Ray Boone (dad of Bob Boone, granddad of Aaron Boone). Wow.

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 Год назад +1

    I was born the same month and year as this game. And decades later, I visited Tiger Stadium in its final year. Sat in the upper right field deck one game, and behind the first base dugout the next. What a great park. Sad to see it go.

  • @seeseemun4528
    @seeseemun4528 5 месяцев назад +1

    I miss those games with just a play by play guy. Beautiful Tiger stadium, check Briggs stadium. The players from both teams!!! One month before I was born. Go Tigers!

  • @CapAnson12345
    @CapAnson12345 3 года назад +3

    Imagine what Maglie might have done if he had started earlier. 114-58 AFTER the age of 33. And that's with only three full seasons as a starter.

  • @hamburg1306
    @hamburg1306 Год назад +1

    Wow! Nice glimpse into what baseball used to be. Interesting to see Billy Martin playing for the Tigers.

  • @sparty94
    @sparty94 Год назад +1

    awesome! thanks for posting. the audio quality is amazing.

  • @Mark-sj3xb
    @Mark-sj3xb 3 года назад +4

    I like how Maglie had an “everyman’s” pitching motion and delivery.

  • @thedeucemonkey2331
    @thedeucemonkey2331 Год назад

    5 Camera Shot...pretty sweet for 1958 coverage...
    Thank you for sharing...
    Mel Allen❤❤❤

  • @mmagic3534
    @mmagic3534 3 года назад +8

    Detroit won this game 3-2. It was cool to see Billy Martin playing against his former team.

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 3 года назад +3

      He later managed the Tigers to the 1972 AL East title.

    • @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229
      @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229  3 года назад +2

      Yes the box score is in there

    • @frederickrapp5396
      @frederickrapp5396 2 года назад

      Billy Martin and Casey Stengel reportedly never spoke to each other again after he was traded by the Yankees. They were deeply, deeply, estranged.

    • @Razorbacks1
      @Razorbacks1 Год назад

      @@WhiteCamry Martin also managed the Twins to a division championship in 1969 with a 97-65 record but was fired after the season.

  • @scottjohnson6563
    @scottjohnson6563 3 года назад +3

    As. a 12 year old in 58, Frank Lary "Yankee Killer", was the Tigers stopper

    • @jeremycrandall2899
      @jeremycrandall2899 3 года назад +1

      Your comment makes it sound like Frank Lary was in the big leagues when he was 12 years old, and kicking ass against the vaunted Yankees!😄😄😄 Of course, I know you mean that YOU were 12 years old, not him.😊 For the record, Frank Lary was 28 in 1958.

  • @garylam6233
    @garylam6233 Год назад +2

    Loved these old games ,and I loved pee wee Reese and dizzy dean brodcast they were the greatest

  • @KratostheThird
    @KratostheThird Месяц назад +1

    What always strikes me about these old vintage broadcasts is how distinct and charming these old commentators were. Mel Allen, Phil Rizzuto as well as Vin Scully and many others all had a distinct characteristic.
    Today I can't tell who is who in sports announcing because they act like they came out of the same university and took the same classes. Nothing stands out anymore.

  • @jojobar5877
    @jojobar5877 3 года назад +4

    When Harvey Kuenn hit that homer, his swing looked a lot like Alan Trammel’s much later who hit them in the same spot in Tiger stadium, including in the 84 series against he Padres.

    • @44032
      @44032 2 года назад +3

      Harvey was more known for this batting average. He hit .303 lifetime and .319 this season but with only 8 home runs. We are privileged to see one of them.

  • @keithbishop9759
    @keithbishop9759 7 месяцев назад +1

    This reminds me of falling in love with baseball as a young kid.

  • @Nestor123057
    @Nestor123057 3 года назад +2

    The game seemed so easy and slow paced. Most games, however, were over, in about two hours. Find that today.

    • @zxccxz164
      @zxccxz164 3 года назад

      Mostly do to commercials!!!!!

  • @optimizer6488
    @optimizer6488 9 месяцев назад

    Sal "The Barber" on his last legs at 41 years old, walking more than he struck out before he had to hang up the spikes. Great video!

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 3 года назад +3

    Yep. This was baseball folks.
    I could go to a 2pm game and be home for dinner - taking the el train!

  • @billslocum9819
    @billslocum9819 3 года назад +2

    Sal Maglie was an old 41 when he pitched this game. A month later he got his last-ever major-league win. It's odd to see "the Barber" trying to get by on junk pitches and low stuff, but I think he did okay here despite the loss.

  • @thomaswolf723
    @thomaswolf723 Год назад +1

    The pitcher for the Tigers is Frank Lary who was known as a "Yankee Killer" for repeatedly beating the Yankees during the period (mid-1950's to early 1960's) in which the Yankees won the American League pennant almost every year. He was a mainstay of the Tiger's staff (along with Jim Bunning) and had an incredible 28-13 lifetime record against the Yankees.
    The Yankee pitcher is Sal "the Barber" Maglie who was 41 years old during the season and retired at the end of the year. He achieved most of his fame winning many games with the New York Giants in the early and mid-1950's (after age 30) and pitching in the 1951 and 1954 World Series. He joined the rival Brooklyn Dodgers in 1956 and helped the Dodgers win the N. L. pennant by just one game with a 13-5 record and a no-hitter. He started two games in the 1956 World Series against the Yankees, winning the opener 6-3 and losing his second start 2-0 in Don Larsen's perfect game.

  • @humanbeing2420
    @humanbeing2420 2 месяца назад

    This grainy, extremely low definition black and white broadcast with two crappy camera angles and zero graphics whatsoever, is so much better than what we have today. I miss the days when you could barely tell you were watching a baseball game, had no idea where the ball had been hit and you would only be told the score once per inning at most.

  • @nala3038
    @nala3038 Год назад +1

    Loved those old ball games in the daytime. No fans staring at their phones like mindless zombies.

  • @deco983
    @deco983 3 года назад +3

    Amazing!

  • @jburma
    @jburma 10 месяцев назад

    29:21 Love the gamesmanship in Mantle's AB. Mantle asking the ump to look at the ball. Quick pitch from Frankly Larry. The pitcher, Frank Lary, looked like he was getting squeezed. Fun to see a Mantle AB even if it cut out at the end. I was surprised at all the different camera angles for a game in 1958.

  • @kenmcneillmusic1699
    @kenmcneillmusic1699 3 года назад +9

    When it was a game. When players had to get a job in the off season. They played strictly for the love of the game. Great announcers never get in the way of the game. Thanks for posting this.

    • @frederickrapp5396
      @frederickrapp5396 3 года назад +3

      I disagree that players in 1958 were “playing for the love of the game.” They were playing for money 100%. No guaranteed multi year multi million dollar contracts either. Most of the ballplayers were making around 15K a year, and they’d get around another 7K if they won the World Series. They were all on one year deals, and if they did not produce, they would be gone the next year, the next month, or the next week. There would always be another guy anxious to take your job away from you. They never knew when they might be gone, only management did. Owners could pay them exactly what they wanted to, or release them for any reason with or without cause. Players could never lay down roots in a community or be certain to raise their families in one city only. The players were interchangeable pieces of cattle, and they all knew it; even stars like Mantle, Berra, and Kaline. They could be traded on the owner’s whim, and for any reason and at any time. You notice how the players never smiled, or gave each other high-fives, or celebrated after a home run. A quick hand shake would suffice. The owners wouldn’t like excessive bursts of emotion, and the ballplayer could be gone the next day. Loyalty only existed if you produced and behaved, and it was always a one way street. For the fans, it might have been a game, but for the players it was strictly business.

  • @areguapiri
    @areguapiri Год назад +1

    5:04-5:15...Any mlb catcher today would have fallen on the ground as if his arm had fallen off, and they would have stopped the game for 20+ minutes for every medical person in the stadium to look at him.

  • @historicusjoe121
    @historicusjoe121 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic!

  • @robertglisson6319
    @robertglisson6319 Год назад +1

    It's great to see simply a normal game for any length from the 50s and 60s. How many times would we get to watch Sal the Barber, to watch his style and pitching, or watch Yogi catch in routine settings, observing how quick he was. Usually, old clips are highlights by Hall of Famers.
    Also can't help how relatively quiet the announcers are compared to today, with the endless analysis to fill the air space.

  • @douglasprzymierski2627
    @douglasprzymierski2627 3 года назад +7

    Gave the other league scores, including pitchers ..... back when Baseball was Baseball.

    • @MajorWolfgangHochstetter
      @MajorWolfgangHochstetter 3 года назад +3

      Yes, and none of the BS sound effects between pitches and innings. You can actually hear the buzz of the crowd, and Mel Allen and Phil Rizzuto are actually paying attention to what is going on in the game.

    • @Mark-sj3xb
      @Mark-sj3xb 3 года назад +4

      They could name the pitchers because they left the pitchers in for most of the game if they were pitching well. Nowadays you need a calculator to keep up.

  • @morleysobol6656
    @morleysobol6656 3 года назад

    Amazing to listen as Mel Allen reads off the out of town scores. So many teams that have just moved or will be moving soon; L.A., San Francisco, Milwaukee, Washington, and Kansas City.

    • @joemahoney1221
      @joemahoney1221 3 года назад +1

      Washington first in war, first in peace, last in the American League. Laughed twice when I heard the out of town scores.

    • @ralphowen3367
      @ralphowen3367 Год назад

      In California, before the Giants came to S.F. and Dodgers to L.A., ball fans had St. Louis as their main team.

    • @SerenityNow9015
      @SerenityNow9015 Год назад

      @@ralphowen3367Before the Giants moved to San Francisco, my Dad was a Yankee fan because they were always on national TV every week. Some things never change.

  • @brianthomas2434
    @brianthomas2434 3 года назад +1

    So many things. With no context I wondered why Casey was contemplating a quick hook of Maglie, then we learn Lary was pitching for the Tigers. Frank "Yankee Killer " Lary. And Tony Kubek batting third? Yogi second? For someone who first listened to Rizzuto call Yankee games in the early 70s, his early reticence was a surprise. Possibly because he was on radio earlier in the game, felt he should let the camera do the work. But as time went by he loosened up (prompted by someone off mike?) and approached the garrulous Rizzuto I remembered.

  • @wmontanez27
    @wmontanez27 2 года назад +1

    Really cool stuff. Thanks for sharing.

  • @nycsongman9758
    @nycsongman9758 3 года назад +1

    The Barber darting off of the mound to make the unassisted at 1B. Glory.

  • @rayorichard8175
    @rayorichard8175 Год назад

    An amazing slice of history here. I was only 5 at the time & knew nothing about baseball but later would become an ardent Yankee's fan. Allen & Rizzuto knew how to call games right. This had a relaxing vibe to it, unlike the modern broadcasters who are annoying with their non-stop yammering.

  • @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229
    @pheniafilmsthemlbarchiveso9229  3 года назад +1

    For those who refuse to read the description for the box score or understand why you think I purposely ended this with Mantle at bat how about doing a little research before you make brainless statements..I’ll just take it down how about that enough already..lucky we have this footage 🎥

    • @michaelabrams7345
      @michaelabrams7345 Год назад

      I would assume the kinescope reel ended just when Mantle was batting. I think they usually needed 4 or 5 reels to cover an entire game.

  • @Celluloidwatcher
    @Celluloidwatcher Год назад +1

    Ah, when baseball had no labor problems and was the at the top of American sports. The national pastime. And at Briggs, later Tiger, Stadium at the corner of Michigan and Trumbull. When announcers let the cameras do the talking more than they did since TV games allowed for people to see everything, unlike the imaginary thoughts people had when listening to games on the radio. Thank you for the kinescope gem from 1958.