Birdhouses | Design for Mass Production 3D Printing
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2023
- In this episode of Design for Mass Production 3D Printing, we explore the innovation of birdhouse designs. Traditional birdhouses may be common, but we're here to show you how 3D printing opens up a realm of possibilities to create compelling and unique products. We discuss the challenges of mass-producing birdhouses with 3D printing and how to optimize the design for cost-efficient production. Don't miss out on this opportunity to innovate and differentiate yourself in the birdhouse market.
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I designed a birdhouse that mounts to trees last year! Glad to see this is a topic someone is talking about! Called it “Birdchitecture” for fun haha
Sounds great!
I'm a product design student, I clicked on this video because I thought it was a technical one, so I could improve my design manifacturing, but surprisingly, I found a really inspiring one (also really technical) , I always wanted my designs to be for everyone, and explaining me the great strument that the 3d printer is, and how democratic could be, you make me excited at the point to finally choose to buy a 3d printer and design more and more, thank you, I apprecciated every word.
I also designed a birdhouse (more of a nesting box) for 3D printing (it is up in printables). In my case, it is an open design because it is meant for "open nesters" in contrast to "cavity nesters". This bird house is made to take a whole spool and is very large in comparison with other bird houses, it is broken in two parts that have to be glued together. My design is also made so that it can be hosed down after the chicks leave the nest because the little things poop a lot and they don't take it with them when they are done. I did not see much of a business model here because my design would be very expensive, i.e. 1kg of material and it took me about 12h printing time for each of the two parts on an X1C. I opensourced it up in printables. This was my first PETG print, and I really liked the material.
Regarding the design that you posted here for cavity nesters, one advantage of plastic is that it can be cleaned easier than wood. A design feature could be a plug in the bottom and internal slopes inside the birdhouse so that a single water hose assisted cleaning operation could be performed to ready the bird house for the next bird family.
Videos you make on 3d printing best practices is why I love this channel . You have really helped me think about the design process in new ways.
Great to hear!
I second this!
FYI: You need to put a removable part in your bird house so you can clean it at the end of the season. A couple of 3D screws is a fix or you can get them at the hardware store too!
Leave the peg off. The resident birds don’t need it and it gives competitors a place to securely attack from. Just some old well intentioned but wrong idea, like putting butter on a burn.
Overall, your usual excellent design insight, thanks.
as a mechanical engineer who loves 3d printing, each of your video blows my mind. Great point of view.
Glad you enjoy it!
The design for mass production 3d printing is a very good series. It's very thought provoking and inspiring.
One area that intrigues me is related to when a design should be printed as multiple components. More specifically best design practices for joining multiple components.
Suspect here are some advantages as relates to shipping to constrain a product to certain dimensions.
Coming soon
When you turned it upside down you said it would need minimal support but the whole base (now at the top) would need internal support as it is flat and horizontal and cannot be bridged.
Design the interior appropriately if necessary. But it can be bridged.
@@slant3d It can be bridged but would be a bird's nest underneath (pun intended) and a hygiene problem when it came to cleaning. Yes the internals could be changed to limit this but that was not mentioned in the article.
A bird isn't going to care about your bridging ability or if the floor is slanted. There is suppose to be seed in there. If you want them to not slip while in that v shaped interior then make some smaller bridged branches in the design. Or build an insert that can be printed right side up.
I haven't had good experiences trying to use PLA in the sun for things like bird houses. This is in Florida, though.
outstanding
Thank you for this inspiring video! You said you would print the birdhouse with PLA, but doesn't that melt in the sun with hot weather? I've been relecutant to create outside products with PLA. Can you clarify about this? THanks so much!
I agree with what you said. I printed a movable piece for my son with PLA. Left in the sun, the PLA warped and now it doesn't move. I've always heard at the very least PETG, but ASA and ABS are recommended for outside use.
PETG is my go-to for outside use. You just need an all metal hot end.
Thank you for posting this video. Because there is a great deal of concern about the use of plastic and its impact on the environment, would it be possible and more eco-friendly to print birdhouses using a biodegradable wood filament? I would be interested in yours and your subscribers thoughts on this.
It would be more ecologically friendly to make birdhouses with printing rather than other processes.
@@slant3d Thank you for your reply. I agree, I do a lot of 3D design for the plastics industry and I am not anti plastics. I simply thought printing with wood filament would possibly compound the ecological advantages of 3D printing. I would appreciate your thoughts on this i.e. would it be practical etc?
@@slant3d Because what any biological system right now needs more of, it's plastic?
Not to speak of the energy requirements.
Wood filament is still plastic only. There is some that has actual wood fibers but it's harder to print with and would not do anything for the environment. That fiber dust would simply be reused for making mdf if it wasn't put into filament.
I question the advice to use PLA outside. I 3D printed some garden plant labels and some of them distorted in direct sunlight.
Watch the full video with sound
@@slant3d I did. And your reply just got me to unsubscribe.
PLA can be used outside with a UV protectant coating as stated in the video. All the best
Our understanding is that uv coating stops the color from fading. Is it the heat that causes deformation or actual uv light that does? I've had this happen before just leaving a part in a container in my van. And the container was probably uv resistant polycarbonate and clear.
Also, can you make a video about how recyclable PLA printed products are? That is a selling point I want to make to customers -- "when you're dong with this 3D printed product, you can recycle it." Again, thanks for providing so much useful information !
Petg is "reclaimable". Not sure i would want a PLA part to be sittinf in the elements.
You might be interested in CNC Kitchen's video "I tried composting biodegradable 3D prints" which is about his experiments with PLA.
In theory they are, but in practice it's very rare. Also it shouldn't be mixed with household plastics in recycle bin. When you making it as selling point (but you don't offer recycling yourself) it's just greenwashing.
@@cyrkielnetwork Yeah... that's why I haven't made that point to people yet. I wish there was a straight forward tway to just recycle this stuff
@@muyscully PETG could go in household recycling, but odds are the people filtering it won't realise it's PETG and will send it off to a landfill anyway.
Nice video but the reapeated popping noise in the background anoys me
So I gotta point a few things out.
1. You said that having a human install the landing peg would be too much for mass production, but you go on to say use PLA but spray it with a clear, paint it and add fake moss. huh? The amount of processing time for something like that you are better off blow or roto molding the design and have a nice smooth or textured finish with no post process needed. Plastic will already be UV stable.
2. You said the cost of the wood houses are cheap, which they are. Some hardware stores give them away. but buying a simple wooden bird house is $10. Most of the fancy looking printed ones are assembled and multiple materials and cost $60-$100 to buy off Etsy or other places. In some cases it cost just as much to buy the 3d model to print yourself as it would to buy a wooden one assembled. It takes seconds to cut the material for a wooden house, but hours to print each piece of a 3d print design, even a simple one. How are these comparable for production?
3. A true mass produced custom bird house certainly wouldn't be 3d printed. Laser cut the wood, flat pack it and let the consumer assemble like Ikea. Shipping is cheaper, you can still cut on demand, the human interaction is the end user so it doesn't add to the cost to produce.
I just don't see how this is a good use of 3d printing "for mass production". Most of the really detailed ones you show are resin printed or have undergone a lot of post processing and painting to make them look good. There is no way I would pay $60 for a birdhouse that was FDM printed with a bunch of layer lines on it. Great for one-off custom projects at home, but doesn't seem like a good mass production argument.
you dont have to make everything out of plastic /: Wood is good for that, better quality and looks better.
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While it's important to design with 3D printers limitations and advantages in mind, I don't think there should be too much of an aversion to the idea of having human hands touch a product before its shipped off to a customer. If you limit your designs to just something a 3D printer can print, you're almost certainly going to have a crappy product. Combine 3D printing with heat nut inserts, bolts, bearings, and other parts and you start getting something more approaching what we think of when we think of products. 3D printers are one tool in the arsenal. For example the little perch on that birdhouse. Yes, you could completely change the look of it to be 3D printable easily.. Or just print the perch separately and screw it on with a bolt. Would take 5 seconds and 5 cents. Realistically adds nothing of significance to the process of making the product. If you use a bolt as long as the perch, you now have an incredibly strong perch as well. I see logs of designs on thingiverse that are very much worse than they should be, just because they don't wanna say 'buy a bearing' or 'buy some bolts'..
Or design for the process.
@@slant3di agree that you should design with the orocess in mind, you wouldn't blow mold what needs to be injection moulded or injection mould what can be printed. As an Industrial Designer I think its best to start with the needs of the particular product and depending on budget, selling price and time constraints select your process. For instance I have used 3d printing to produce molds that I would then mix urethane or silicone to produce parts faster than a 3d printer could reprint the files.
As an engineer, I applaud your creativity. Unfortunately, you’re looking at what might be good for the consumer and not for the birds. For a functional birdhouse, it needs to have three items, ventilation, drainage, and a method to clean out the old nest. It should also never ever have a perch. Birds don’t need a perch for access (it only helps predators gain access), the hole diameter is important and also should be toward the top. There should never be more than one hole.
The designs you chose are something that you might put on a mantle for show, but are not suitable for nesting songbirds.
Your last design with the bark like appearance is cool, more like what cavity nesting birds are looking for.
Again for the safety of the birds and their well-being, incorporate the above criteria & you will have created a functional nest box. Hopefully, if you put the idea out there, you will have a product that will help the bird population and let the customers experience nature in their backyard. Thanks.
Fortunately you can change the design however you want. This video was to show good design practices and that you can make any variation you like
I like the idea, but some 3d printed bird houses are NOT GOOD! You have to make sure that the infant birds will be able to get out after and such! I'm no expert on birds just see something someone said think it prusa about it. Dont want to be killing more birds then helping :D n
Fortunately changing the design for whatever your needs are is very doable.
It's really the bird's needs that should be met. One example would be that most birds don't even like having other nests in their approach flight path. (I really don't see any taking up a two storey arrangement.)
Generally if the adult bird can get in through the hole, the baby bird can get out through it.
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5 cents
I'm pretty sure, your idea of "impossible to manufacture any other way" is really exaggerated. There is plenty of ways to manufacture all of these designs. Probably one of the easiest one would be the one looking like a piece of the tree itself. You take a literal log and hollow it out.
The peg should be dropped. Larger birds will sit on it and eat the bird kids. It is like opening a fast food restaurant.
You should constult this with ornitologist. Fancy look shouldn't be priority. It should be safe and useful for the birds. Things like landing sticks are utterly stupid and show how without proper knowledge we don't understand animals. For humans it feels convinient to have something like this. Birds don't need it at all. But it's very handy for the predators. Also you should be able to open and clean it. Have you though about moisture concentration and mould? Propably not, like about many other things that you should when designing product for animals.
You can design fancy things for yourself, but simple, proper, wooden birdhouse is the best for birds and I encourage you delete this video becouse it's harmfull for birds, and I belive that's not your intentions. You can ask ornitologists is it good idea to 3d print birdhouse but I guess they will say that's very bad idea for many reasons.