Hi man, gr8 work. But have a question, actually 2 1) why u use Thunderous Roar before everything, - it is about dot from it that ticks, right ? plz explain. 2) Why BS before everyhing on ST rotation.
Yo, yeah exactly cause thunderous roar is about the dot and not the initial hit, but you can do it either way before avatar warbreaker or after not going to make huge difference, but I like it before so I gain a gcd in my avatar warbreaker hurricane window. Now when it comes to st bs in itself hits like wet noodles what we care about is the hurricane stacks that is why we send it before and then send avatar warbreaker so we can do our st rotation while we have the hurricane buff and our cds are running hope that helps❤
Idk how many times I’ve said this but why blizzard still having arms use whirlwind.. like they need to just make cleave arms aoe button have it replace whirlwind all together. Leave that for fury. You can clearly tell the class design of arms. Mortal strike is single target cleave is aoe. They both get buffed by overpower interaction. They both interact with deep wounds. They make it more complex than it needs to be. It’s like slam with fury 😔 it’s only ever used with single minded but that’s because you are pretty much bloodbath and rampaging with whirlwind and barley and rarely will you use slam as a filler since you no longer have or use raging blow with that spec. Not that you’re even running that spec.. thunderclap should be prots spamable aoe whirlwind should be fury’s and cleave should be arms. It’s really that simple. Gives them their own identity and keeps it more clear for balance and new players learning the classes/ specs
Am I right that you didn't even use the on-use of the Axe? Can you please expand on that point? When it was first released, there was discussion in Skyhold (Warrior Discord) about how the play was you could macro Bladestorm and the proc together, so you start a short distance away from targets, hit your macro, and Bladestorm would start, you would charge to your targets (while Bladestorming), and you would do BOTH-- you would be Bladestorming WHILE channeling the Axe. I did it on dummies, and although it works, it's clunky and I got better numbers doing it other ways. But I'm confused you didn't use it all.
Yeah, well the macro where you send bladestorm and lego works when you play the other capstone talent where you bladestorm once you send avatar so you could macro it to avatar, and it would work, but if you macro it to bladestorm it is not really going to work. Now regarding lego usage is pretty simple you send it on cd whenever you don't have cds, for example in a dungeon you start the key you got all your cds you send everything after you do lego💪
@@Mirageous After?? I thought doing "regular" abilities applied an effect, and then using the Axe "absorbed" those effects for extra damage. So you would want to do (sic) Whirlwind FIRST (it applies the effect to all targets hit), and then use the Axe, which takes all of those effects and turns them into extra damage. That's how it seems to work. When I do Axe first, abilities after I do considerably less damage than if I do abilities first, Axe last.
@@TheNudeBrewer Yeah, what am I talking about is when to use your lego and not how to! For example, you start the key tank pulls 3 packs you send cds on those now you go into the next pack, and you don't have cds, you charge in thunderclap cleave into whirlwind now that you applied the lego debuff use it 💪✌
Yo most of TRs damage is the dot, so the initial hit is kinda whatever I would say and if you do it before you gain extra gcd inside your warbreaker avatar window but overall don't think there is much of a difference between sending before or after, both are fine💪❤
@@Mirageous Thanks for your Guide, awesome help.. I am wondering how do you personally find out when to use which ability? Do you sim, comparing Numbers on dummys or how is the process?
@@kaiwollin5788 yo, thank you! Mainly from following warrior theorycrafters then it is a mix between sims, checking logs and I would say with experience you get a feeling of how you should dps when to send a trinket or a certain ability for example. Hope it helps❤
Anvil is excellent for st and prio damage, but you have to keep it at 5 stacks most of the time, which is hard to do in a pug unless you got an m+ team you could use the worn doll toy 4xtimes and hit it so you stay in combat for longer and keep the stacks. Other than that, I would say it is too much hassle and does less aoe 💪😎
Hey sorry for late response, in my discord you can find all the addons i use and weakauras but the warrior ones you can only get from subbing to revvezes twitch channel👍
Hey well it depends on how far you are from getting your lego but if it is at least like 2 weeks or more then your best bet is to go with Ashkandur the sword from s2 going to be the most dps increase, and you can use it as fury with lego!👍💪 Cancel Reply
Yo sorry for late response! Hmmm that is weird and kinda hard to tell why tbh but are you sure you are using cleave for 4 set buff before bladestorm? Or what kinda trinkets you got? You got lego for example?
Yo do you mean like my Weakauras or addons in general? addons you can find on my discord but Weakauras are a customized version of Revvez's weakauras, you have to sub to his twitch channel (www.twitch.tv/revvez) to be able to download them❤
Yo, usually the haste legs are bis for m+ but this season they lose some value cause we are hitting haste diminishing returns real quick that is why we go to vers wrists and blue silken or double blue silken they sim better on st and a bit less on aoe(my sim double blue silken is 1.975m and haste legs is 1.988m on aoe and on st double blue silken is 7k ahead with 50% uptime). personally i prefer double blue silken overall unless it is a really high key and you need vers.✌💪
If you are talking about raid then yeah but this is about m+ you send bladestorm before cds on st so you make use of the hurricane strength buff while your cds are running👍
Nice and simple. No blah blah blah! Just straight to the point. Cheers mate
Thank you! Glad it helped ❤️
Must admit this got me everything I need to know for m+ without unnecessary bloat. Top man.
Thank you so much, glad it helped😉❤
Great guide that gets right to the point, good job!
Thank you! Means a lot to me🙏❤
Hi man, gr8 work. But have a question, actually 2
1) why u use Thunderous Roar before everything, - it is about dot from it that ticks, right ? plz explain.
2) Why BS before everyhing on ST rotation.
Yo, yeah exactly cause thunderous roar is about the dot and not the initial hit, but you can do it either way before avatar warbreaker or after not going to make huge difference, but I like it before so I gain a gcd in my avatar warbreaker hurricane window. Now when it comes to st bs in itself hits like wet noodles what we care about is the hurricane stacks that is why we send it before and then send avatar warbreaker so we can do our st rotation while we have the hurricane buff and our cds are running hope that helps❤
See, its like i tell my wife, longer isnt necessary better! On point, thanks!
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Ty so much for this
Glad it helped❤
Idk how many times I’ve said this but why blizzard still having arms use whirlwind.. like they need to just make cleave arms aoe button have it replace whirlwind all together. Leave that for fury. You can clearly tell the class design of arms. Mortal strike is single target cleave is aoe. They both get buffed by overpower interaction. They both interact with deep wounds. They make it more complex than it needs to be. It’s like slam with fury 😔 it’s only ever used with single minded but that’s because you are pretty much bloodbath and rampaging with whirlwind and barley and rarely will you use slam as a filler since you no longer have or use raging blow with that spec. Not that you’re even running that spec.. thunderclap should be prots spamable aoe whirlwind should be fury’s and cleave should be arms. It’s really that simple. Gives them their own identity and keeps it more clear for balance and new players learning the classes/ specs
I drop strength of arms for Bonegrinder, run ignis trinket. macro it to Bladestorm and slap a lappa
Am I right that you didn't even use the on-use of the Axe? Can you please expand on that point?
When it was first released, there was discussion in Skyhold (Warrior Discord) about how the play was you could macro Bladestorm and the proc together, so you start a short distance away from targets, hit your macro, and Bladestorm would start, you would charge to your targets (while Bladestorming), and you would do BOTH-- you would be Bladestorming WHILE channeling the Axe. I did it on dummies, and although it works, it's clunky and I got better numbers doing it other ways. But I'm confused you didn't use it all.
Yeah, well the macro where you send bladestorm and lego works when you play the other capstone talent where you bladestorm once you send avatar so you could macro it to avatar, and it would work, but if you macro it to bladestorm it is not really going to work. Now regarding lego usage is pretty simple you send it on cd whenever you don't have cds, for example in a dungeon you start the key you got all your cds you send everything after you do lego💪
@@Mirageous After?? I thought doing "regular" abilities applied an effect, and then using the Axe "absorbed" those effects for extra damage. So you would want to do (sic) Whirlwind FIRST (it applies the effect to all targets hit), and then use the Axe, which takes all of those effects and turns them into extra damage.
That's how it seems to work. When I do Axe first, abilities after I do considerably less damage than if I do abilities first, Axe last.
@@TheNudeBrewer Yeah, what am I talking about is when to use your lego and not how to! For example, you start the key tank pulls 3 packs you send cds on those now you go into the next pack, and you don't have cds, you charge in thunderclap cleave into whirlwind now that you applied the lego debuff use it 💪✌
does the dragons roar dot get buffed when you use avatar/collossos smash after applying it?
Hey yeah it does buff it even if you use it after👍💪
great guide man! is there any way i can get your plater profile??!
Hey i use a customized version of Naowh’s plater and you can get his by subbing to his twitch channel👍
Hi, why thunderous roar before warbreaker? Isnt it worth to buff initial damage with warbreaker+avatar?
Yo most of TRs damage is the dot, so the initial hit is kinda whatever I would say and if you do it before you gain extra gcd inside your warbreaker avatar window but overall don't think there is much of a difference between sending before or after, both are fine💪❤
@@Mirageous Thanks for your Guide, awesome help.. I am wondering how do you personally find out when to use which ability? Do you sim, comparing Numbers on dummys or how is the process?
@@kaiwollin5788 yo, thank you! Mainly from following warrior theorycrafters then it is a mix between sims, checking logs and I would say with experience you get a feeling of how you should dps when to send a trinket or a certain ability for example. Hope it helps❤
So for the people that is no way near that dreamender, i buy ash?
Yeah, Ashkandur would be the best option until lego and even after you get it you can use Ashkandur with lego as fury 💪
I rly wonna know is cleave or mortal strike better ?
Cleave if 4 targets plus - mortal strike if 1 target or 2 to 3 targets with sweeping strikes running✌
Isn't the anvil good?
Anvil is excellent for st and prio damage, but you have to keep it at 5 stacks most of the time, which is hard to do in a pug unless you got an m+ team you could use the worn doll toy 4xtimes and hit it so you stay in combat for longer and keep the stacks. Other than that, I would say it is too much hassle and does less aoe 💪😎
Any link how prepare UI as you have?
Hey sorry for late response, in my discord you can find all the addons i use and weakauras but the warrior ones you can only get from subbing to revvezes twitch channel👍
hi, what if I don't have the leg? what do I buy first with bullions?
Hey well it depends on how far you are from getting your lego but if it is at least like 2 weeks or more then your best bet is to go with Ashkandur the sword from s2 going to be the most dps increase, and you can use it as fury with lego!👍💪
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got same kind gear and almost identical stats, following your rotation still dealin half your aoe dmg. what could i be doing wrong:S
Yo sorry for late response! Hmmm that is weird and kinda hard to tell why tbh but are you sure you are using cleave for 4 set buff before bladestorm? Or what kinda trinkets you got? You got lego for example?
Got any place to get your UI?
Yo do you mean like my Weakauras or addons in general? addons you can find on my discord but Weakauras are a customized version of Revvez's weakauras, you have to sub to his twitch channel (www.twitch.tv/revvez) to be able to download them❤
its wront rotation mate. u have to use your roar and trinkets before warbrekaer and avatr
Maybe if you have watched the video you would have known that i actually did that
@@Mirageous Favourite part of this whole video
i have rage issues when i charge in i can not TC it takes 2 full swings before i can
Sometimes that happens you can overpower to get more rage then you can use thunderclap 👍
Hi, why no one craft the frostfire legs for m+? The theoretical sim dps is huge ?
Yo, usually the haste legs are bis for m+ but this season they lose some value cause we are hitting haste diminishing returns real quick that is why we go to vers wrists and blue silken or double blue silken they sim better on st and a bit less on aoe(my sim double blue silken is 1.975m and haste legs is 1.988m on aoe and on st double blue silken is 7k ahead with 50% uptime). personally i prefer double blue silken overall unless it is a really high key and you need vers.✌💪
No one use bladestorm on single target
If you are talking about raid then yeah but this is about m+ you send bladestorm before cds on st so you make use of the hurricane strength buff while your cds are running👍